The Most Expensive Handheld Yet // $1700 AYANEO Kun Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- There's a high-end Steam Deck alternative on the market, but it's going to set you back a lot of money. In this video, we review the AYANEO Kun.
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Intro - 00:00
Drive Swap / Price / Specs - 00:22
Impressions - 04:24
1600p Gaming - 09:15
Where this is awesome - 15:04
Weight / Comfort - 16:43
Pros / Cons - 17:53
The device in this video is a media prototype and was provided to me for this video. If you decide to buy this product, I will not make any money. The company also did not provide me with any financial incentive for this video.
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Ayaneo keeps developing its handheld without stopping for a moment to know if the previous ones run well. I'm talking from perspective of the Windows side right now. I pray they could stop for a moment by the time they release Pocket Air (Android perspective)
Yeah and that's not always a good sign. A high chance many of them will get very little to no support. One example, Ayaneo 2S review by Bringus Studios, shows the device heat up like crazy 🔥🔥🔥
I'm hoping there's a point when people stop buying from them and they actually care about QC or their product
Yeap. It's getting boring now. I'm sure after they release the Kun, they'll announce a new model already for pre order.
@@ryuno2097 lol they already did. Well, not preorder yet, but they have another handheld on the way
And expensive as always too
This is purely a luxury buy. I don't think i could ever justify spending this much on a handheld. Steam Deck makes sense. ROG Ally makes sense, especially as it can pull double duty as a competent desktop replacement. But this thing ... man, for that kind of money you can just get so much more.
Also the lenovo handheld coming out has very similar specs for way less money.
For the 4TB/64GB model, I would agree.
However, for the 1Tb/32gb early bird of 1100 USD, I think it makes a kind of sense.
Much bigger battery, capable of double-sided m.2280 drives, really awesome color reproduction for the screen (trade off, not being 120hz vrr), USB 4 ports for lower entrance cost of eGPU (albeit lower performance compared to Rog XG stuff).
If you bought a Rog Ally, power bank, and 2 Tb external hard drive, the total is creeping north of 900 USD.
I'm not saying a Kun makes sense in all situations, but it isn't quite the fast and easy rejection when you add up what you have to do to make other hand helds in to a comparable experience.
You could build a competent desktop AND a Steam Deck for the price of this model. You could also Stream to the Deck if you have a good enough router/internet for it.
Er, you know the steam deck is also a totally "competent" desktop replacement too, right?
@@Yixdy I guess you could say the Deck is competent but 4 cores nowadays is limiting to a lot of people. Esp for multitasking/background tasks. But it's also Linux not Windows so idk. The APU is pretty anemic for any modern gaming over 900p. It's fine on it's small screen but put it on any 32+" TV or monitor and it reaaaallly looks like shit. Like seeing pixels from across the room shit. I love my Deck but that's just how it is.
Ayaneo now probably has more handhelds than Apple’s entire line of products in its history
I understand people not liking systems like steam deck and thinking updates are too infrequent. But what Ayaneo does is ridiculous, they just can't support so many systems and it feels like they are milking a few whales that buy every release.
"Introducing the Ayaneo Pippin, the first Anayeo product based on the PowerPC platform"
Ayaneo Taco - Looks like a taco and can be used to cooke tacos, but only on Taco Tuesdays
Ayaneo Raiden - Has the biggest battery, quickest recharge and uses the most wattage and could be used as a microwave
Ayaneo Godzilla - The biggest Ayaneo ever, a 27 inch screen that isn't portable for any normal person and is only portable for Godzilla sized users
Ayaneo Cat - Comes with an advanced AI and OS that acts just like a cat, specifically Garfield. Designed for masochists who like to be belittled and bullied by cats. Also gives a weekly reminder on how it hates Mondays.
Ayaneo Jesus - Claims to be the second coming Jesus in portable form and will always tell you the right thing to do.
Ayaneo Ayaneo - An Ayaneo that has an Ayaneo within it incase you want to technically say you're playing on 2 consoles at the moment
Ayaneo Cardboard - An eco friendly and recycle friendly Ayaneo device that uses 0 internet and electricity as it can't turn on. It requires the user to have amazing imagination and it's the cheapest Ayaneo for the most frugal of users being at an amazing $200!
And this is only the ones coming out in 2024! In 2025 they will be 3 times more 😮😮😮😂
@@ligametisno way people buy every version, this is 1700, literally like 3 months of rent, actually crazy
@@poffy02 You would be surprised what kind of people exists. Some just feel a very strong urge to try and collect everything that is being released. It could be headphones, phones and even such Chinese consoles.
Even this channel presents every new release as the greatest thing, very rarely something gets honestly criticized.
Seeing that Genesis-style controller was a reminder of how much I miss having those two additional face buttons on controllers these days. It makes not only Genesis and Saturn emulation more true to the authentic experience, it makes the N64 experience better too, and I can imagine more contemporary games would benefit from it too. Maybe AYA can make a handheld with 6 face buttons next.
Playing street fighter series is a joy with those 6 face buttons.
Getting one of these high-end handhelds where I'm from is hard... Getting any one of the handhelds on your channel would be a dream come true.... Your channel is one of the best on games.... Hope you keep doing what you enjoy doing 💯💯💯👍👍👍👍
That price with a chip already in use in multiple other devices is a very hard sell. Also don't like the bezels on a device that expensive.
What other devices if you dont mind? Im planning to buy but new to handheld gaming pcs.
@@KulaKamisatoget the rog ally you won’t regret it.
Far better screen akin to a oled if you mess with color settings a bit in radeon settings
Can play most game on 1080p compared to steam deck 720p
Windows controls can be a bit funky but the build in control bar is very good and make windows 11 as a handheld completely usable
These are just some of the improvements. I suggest a more detailed break down from gamer nexus if you are interested
@@KulaKamisatosteam deck , rog ally are good options
@@KulaKamisatoprobably get a steam deck if you're not too tech savvy
@@KulaKamisato ROG Ally, Steam Deck, Lenovo Legion Go, and a ton of others.
Im super digging the white color, great vid.
Always great review
Tbh it looks alot nicer internally then alot of other handhelds, also good video
1:29 omg even the insides looks nicely compact. thats amazing work
AYANEO is not a company you want to buy products for in the long-term, they seem like less of a technology company and more of an investment firm who the sole focus of pushing out as any "ultra" steam deck clones as possible to maximize profit. This is exactly why a lot of their products suffer from extreme over heating or poor U.I.
Little engineer needs a raise 🫡
No, this thing looks mad ugly
@@onion_____ lol chill bro, I'm talking about the little helper he had to open it up. 2:12 😅
The best reviewed in YT ♥️🙏
It's an impressive machine with a way steeper price... unfortunately that's the dela breaker to me. Price is just way overboard, even though I get it
They promoted it as a luxury device and a sale pitch with "our most expensive device yet." Lol
The company behind this is LOOKING to go out of business,once a CHEAPER competitor with better specs comes along and runs games that players MISS...
Impressive device? It cant even run tomb raider normal...
great review
Device looks pretty cool Taki kun
Best handheld reviewer out there!
I never understand half the stuff inside you talk about but i still enjoy these lol
Much respect
Looks amazing.
OMG Taki! I love your vids! Thanks for the information, I was literally looking up a device to replace my A1 that isn't as bulky as the Legion Go. I would love a shot at winning this beauty
Out of all the 7840u devices I’d go with the GPD win mini once they figure out the heating issue.
same!
They recently fixed it as they announced in a community post if I recall correctly 😁
@@lavablock1637yes a couple of weeks ago
True.that's the one i want. Not this 1kg 💩 that doesn't do anything else than others 😂😂😂
I have the GPD Win Max 2 with AMD Ryzen 7 7840U, AMD Radeon 780M, 64 GB RAM, 1600p. It's perfect!
I love that it's so over the top! It's so cool that there is a device out there that just went overboard and maxed out everything. We only get the Asus ROG alley off the shelf here in South Africa, which sucks (no Steam deck or Legion go yet)... I would love to buy something like this, but it's so far out of my budget 😢
Hey Taki came across your channel and loved the review on this device. I have a quick question. Out of all the handhelds you reviewed. Which one (regardless of price) would you say you love the most based on how it was built and you probably spend the most time with. To just give you an idea I recently built my own arcade cabinet a few years back (because its significantly cheaper to built and have custom art) but now i want something portable when i travel. I would love to get a suggestion from you of a good portable device and you seem like an amazing guru in this area! ^_^ Love the content and thanks ahead of time
At that price without dGPU, definitely a no for me. And thanks for including Sekiro in the testing! you should consider adding Armored Core VI :D
5:21 My issue with circle dpads, and that includes my beloved ROG Ally, is that it really interferes in games like Pizza Tower or classic MegaMan where you have forward diving done by pressing down+forward.
I continually get accidental slides in MegaMan, rendering tougher stages way too frustrating. Pizza Tower just got impossible for me while maintaining sanity.
Otherwise, i love it and it feels great in everything else I've tried. Even Street Fighter. (Modern ones anyways)
My brothers and I felt that the d-pad on the Genesis 6 button controller was one of the best d-pads ever. Thanks to the shape of the pad, it doesn't feel as odd as some of the newer circle d-pads.
This handheld would make sense to actually include a simcard slot, so you can always stay online on foot. Especially for the price.
Thanks for the review. The Rog Ally is 699$, the base model for the Kun 512gb and 16gb RAM is 999$. Screen is better in some ways, you're getting 4 back buttons (although size and placement is questionable), hall sticks and triggers,.2 touch pads,. facial recognition,. bigger screen,.bigger battery, brighter screen,multiple IO, and better cooling system maybe (hard to say how it holds up over time) so it's not unreasonable pricing. If you have an eGPU already you can take advantage of that 54W. Not sure how the chip will hold over time. That stand looks flimsy and wonder if it will hold up. Using the Ally and switch, touch pads aren't necessary for me, windows work well with touch. D-pad isn't an issue since I don't use it much. But the benefit of this device is using that battery at similar watts as the Ally used to save battery. Performance will be the same but longer battery life. You can also get an eGPU cheaper than the XG mobiles. After all that it's a bummer it's so hard to get in. The back buttons are iffy ergonomics. Looking at their product page the bump in performance,3-10 FPS depending on game, between 30-54W isn't worth the price/fps. Agree with emulation but I think this device would be good for cloud and stream gaming as well. I think there's a lot of extras here quality wise ( sticks,. triggers,. screen,. touch pads,.4 rear buttons) that makes it an ok buy over the Ally. If you want VRR use an external monitor/TV (most ppl have one) with VRR. I don't think you get this for the 54W TDP,. You get it for the screen but more so the battery life, playing at the low wattages and settings that ppl are playing on the Ally. I would've kept the RAM at 16gb and offered 512gb/1TB SSD and then 32gb RAM with 512gb/1TB to keep prices down let ppl upgrade storage themselves and then offer a dGPU for a higher price..64gb RAM is overkill,. maybe 32gb too,. especially when this thing will be outdated by time games require that much RAM on a handheld.. looks interesting,.wait until other reviews come out but might be worth waiting for a deeper sale or finding it on eBay
bro i screamed when i saw you played starwars shadows of the empire its litrally the first game in my life ive never seen anyone play it i love u bro
Adorable little engineer
Wish you had mentioned 800p integer scaling on that display.
I wish Aya would make a console that normal people can't afford
My favorite channel on RUclips
I wonder if the Next 2 that was teased to have a dedicated GPU is still a thing or if this replaced it
I've been waiting for updates on that device forever. Currently have a steam deck and plan on getting the Legion Go. Was hoping the Aya neo next 2 would've been here by now.
Great review! What game are you playing at the start of the Weight/Comfort section?
Dead Cells
I can remember when I first saw handheld PC's years ago and I said back then "I'll get the first one at a good price" and yeah I've had my steam deck a while now and it's awesome, I'll never say it's stupid making another so expensive but at that price it'd have to be perfect with Egpu support and everything and that looks far from perfect in my eyes
The steam deck is essentially perfect, steam has been doing far more than necessary keeping up with the thing, I have no idea why I see people talking shit about it and picking things like the ROG ally over it
Circle D-Pads should, in theory, be a far better thing to have, so they should get better if more attention is payed, or options to swap out for different styles to suit. There is no doubt that this is a very competent device but it should be at that price. Whilst out of the price range of many, it is a pointer to what is to come later, which will also be cheaper. At this price, use as more than just a gaming device may come to many a mind to justify the cost. The screen looks gorgeous.
i mean realistically the 3ds has a d-pad and compared to both of these i would say that the 3-ds did the d-pad much better, if they had made it a press button along with the d-pad it would be the apex of d-pads.
If I had a thousand US dollars to spend on a "handheld", I'm probably getting the best Galaxy phone or tablet I can get just so I can better justify the cost to myself because either will be something that's multipurpose. It's not just for games (even though it totally is), it's for RUclips and all sorts of productivity too. I'd be lying if I said this Kun wasn't as cool as the back side of the pillow though. Based off your review; the type of person who can drop a grand on a mobile device just to play games and who will never miss the money is going to be very, very satisfied with this unit. As for me; I'll most likely enter your future contest and hope luck is on my side. Thanks, Taki for another entertaining review.
Nice, but I think I'll wait for the Next 2!
I think at 1600p, upscaler such as RSR or Lossless Scaling is a must for alot of game. We'll see if AMD Frame Generation (Fluid Motion something) are able to changes that for the handheld area.
This handheld is overkill even for itself, they just said YES to everything available 😂
They already have pre-launch at igg the sldie and kun is not even shipped😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I want to hear your litter helper doing the outro "happy gaming everyone, Taki out!"
I'll do it for the next video.
Can that thing speak English
This reminds me of the Neo-Geo system that came out many moons ago. The graphics were the same you would find in an arcade. What killed it: the price of the gaming cartridge which at the time was over 100 bucks which was insane for a gaming cartridge. This handheld looks great and has nice specs but I'm not sure who this is designed for. Nice gaming laptops can be had for the same price point as the top in unit here. I'm sure folks will buy this device but for many people, the price point will put this out of reach.
Damn man got a new baby hand growing like Deadpool 🤣
1. Didn't you mention in your win mini video that you will be doing total power draw comparison for future videos/devices?
Not sure if missed it but dont seem to see that here.
The total power draw seems terrible for this based on other videos/screenshots, which kind of reduce the advantage of the bigger size battery.
They advertise the 4g capability but now mention need to buy additonal modem card separately which is going to add to the cost (and chance of spoiling the device when installing it).
2. Does the trackpad get recognize as a trackpad by steam controller configuration?
For that price, it's really hard to justify over a lower end gaming laptop. Especially when you mention that it's destined to be played on a table due to it's weight.
The specs are as good as similar price ranged laptops but it's even more portable. For it's size, this has very good spec per dollar value. But you'll have to sacrifice battery
@@TheUltimateHacker007 i dont know about you but even a 3050 mobile has better performance than this
@@acwbit2368 Ofc it's a dedicated gpu. But factor in the cpu, igph, ram, ssd quality screen etc. These all are usually not to be found at laptops lower than 1,5k (usually they make one thing stand out for an easy sell). And I know bc I've been looking at hundreds for over a week now. They corner cut so much you usually get overcharged even if you think you made a good deal (misleading cpu names, low nitts, bad screen quality, slow ram etc). Sure this is very expensive but it doesnt cut corners making it good value for its specs. Definitely not a steal but still good value.
@@TheUltimateHacker007 yeah you are right
@@TheUltimateHacker007 ASUS G14s and FLOWX13 have been nearing the $1000 mark for months now
LENOVO literally has a Lenovo Legion Slim 5: 16" QHD+ 165Hz, Ryzen 7 7840HS, RTX 4060, 16GB DDR5, 1TB SSD for $1146.79 RIGHT NOW on their website
basically the same price as this yet a better buy by any aspect
you really suck at looking for stuff... JARROD'S TECH literally has a website about gaming laptop deals
At that price point, I would just buy a new console, with a few games, and a steam Deck/Switch/Ally. Then I would save the rest for something important.
The screen resolution would likely be a non-issue if you could just force integer scaling and game at 800p, basically like running 1080p on a 2160p display with integer scaling, no blurry garbage.
The blacks on that panel look incredible too.
imagine paying rtx 4090 money to play 25yr old games
Lmaoooo
I was going to comment just this.
In fact, it might be even 5090 money. 64GB ram is just wild. Why.
Imagine being worried about what other ppl spend their money on 🤡
Imagine paying $1600 MINIMUM just for the GPU......in general
Imagine being poor like b20vteg. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Miss the old alienware days when it was 3 screws to open up the laptop.
That mini stand at the back looks like a small pines.
19:02 is there space on the PCB for that? 75wh battery plus sufficient cooling mean this handheld is ready for ayaneo next 2
This is why I will still wait 3-4 years or may be 5 before getting the game handheld, I would never play a game lower than high preset on at least 1080p resolution. I am hoping in 3-5 years time the tech ill be good enough to achieve that on newer games of the time. I really love these type of devices but I will refrain from getting one until it gets up to the mark i want it to be which is why i really hope that these device sell well so that we can see the newer models. Looking forward for the Lenovo Legion Go performance review when the device release.
D-pad seems funky
Honestly, for their highest tier sku, I was expecting $2K, so I guess I can understand the price.
If you feel like this device is too expensive, you probably think the highest end Alienware is too expensive, too. And that's fine, but it isn't unreasonable, this device just isn't for everyone, it's for those who want the top of the top, best of the best, and are willing to pay for it.
I, personally, really like it, and I'm super impressed that one can buy a handheld gaming PC with 64 gigs of ram. That's insane.
I'll be keeping my eye on this as an upgrade to my ROG Ally. For that one, RAM is the only real drawback of it, not to mention how great it would be to have a device with 4TB of storage in it, too.
Thanks for an excellent presentation, Taki.
I'm wondering what 64 GB of RAM even accomplishes. My desktop computer with 16 GB does everything I have tried? All the games. Serious question
@@fenz1bragging rights?😂
best dpad i have ever played on handhald was Odin Pro, best screen (color / clarity) was GPD Win4
I want one. Looks nice. Big thing that puts me off is the borders. Why i bought aya neo 2 and sold my deck. Small thing that makes a big difference. Id love to see loads of screens inc deck oled, side by side to compare what a difference it really makes. In reality it doesnt make a difference. People have spent a year or two pleased with there deck. Which proves, a nicer screen is cool but not the be all and end all. Spemd more time playing a less time looking at gow green the grass is. Battery life is king. Im often down grading everything's for an extra half hour before bed.
At this price point and size, just get a gaming laptop.
Might as well buy a car at this point
@@TheUltimateHacker007 The main point is that the people actually buying these things have no idea about the actual value of the device and just blindly accept it since these chinese companies have the market. Fools and their money are soon parted.
@@zaldronthesage And my point is that it all depends on individual use case and taste. Besides, the aya kun is a damn good deal for its spec per dollar value.
And you know this if you've seen the scummy laptop marketplace for what it is today.
@@TheUltimateHacker007 You are just coping for price you are paying for the hardware you bought bro.
@@zaldronthesageyeah It's called settling with what's available and what's best in your interests.
Didn't say it was cheap but if you scale this product to laptop size, they're usually similar spec /price.
I’m still perfectly happy with my Ayaneo 2. I just wanna pair it up with egpu when I’ll have some cash to spare and I’m a happy portable and desktop gamer.
1600p integer scales for 800p and would look great for lighter games and __streaming__.
That last one is the big one. I really hope to see a screen like this on the Deck 2 for this reason.
I mean, if you have to play at a desk or table to be comfortable, then you can get better gaming for the $1600+ out of a desktop or laptop.
It sounds like it's kind of too heavy for laying down and the loo is not ideal for hard to replace electronics.
So that leaves couch and plane type travel situations.
Between the reduced portability and circle dpad, I'm kinda sad, because there's otherwise a lot to like.
Ayaneo needs to reel it in and keep it simple.
If you don't have a PC yet, you can take that $1700 and build a high end PC with specs that blow this thing out of the water.
If you do own a PC, and just want a handheld to go with it, you can buy a Steamdeck, or ROG Ally, and still have enough money left over to make a huge upgrade to your rig, or buy the monitor of your dreams.
The price to value isn't there.
Got my Legion Go today and its awesome if you got big hands
Been waiting for this one! I'm excited to see how it compares to the steam deck!
It’s wild to me that we were comparing a $1600 device with a $500 device
It smokes the deck
@@thomasbryans6547a full on deck is 650
Does Ayaneo kun supports bluetooth headphones, like AirPods for example?
for d pad testing, i prefer tests with tekken's korean back dash or just frame attacks
Interesting point. Seems like everyone uses Street Fighter.
I do like the platform tests like the Contra, Mega Man, too.
Overpriced, but not that surprising considering AYANEO can't subsidize the cost with game sales.
I'm glad the SSD is a M.2 2280, here's hoping a Steam Deck 2 or ROG Ally 2 follows suit!
They are subsidizing rnd through indigogo
They subsidized from igg campaigns from previous devices
Lenovo Legion Go sh!ts on all of them.
Hopefully the Legion Pro and the Ally set a precedent, cause Ayaneo is out of control@@powerhouse884
Actually, for ROG ally, you can use the 2280 in it. Just buy a PCIE4.0 Transfer Board for Rog Ally Handheld SSD Adapter 90 Degrees and voilà
thats the price of a beast gaming desktop .
1600p screens on handhelds might work alright next year with the 16CU Strix Point APU although I think I'd prefer a 1080p strix point device for higher fps.
I dont think doing a shoryuken in 3rd strike demonstrate the accuracy of the Dpad. Doing normal attacks then cancel it into super will be a better test for me. If you can do it consistently then you know the Dpad is great.
everybody gangsta until ayaneo releases this device's sibling, the most expensive and powerful handheld yet:
ayaneo chan
When this was 1st announced I was hype for this but now there's Legion Go.... I pre ordered legion instead due to the better price point 😅
I think the real strength of 1600 p is FSR upscaling from 800p
Should look great and run great.
"The help of my little engineer"? C'mon, we all knew you just grew a child's arm for this vid.
Dedication!
The things id do to get my hands on that device
Would have loved to see how it plays Star Citizen.
Looks like a pretty solid handheld definitely pricey though
$999 ain’t bad if you go with a lower spec one
@@DonfraslI disagree. The Legion Go starting at $699 and does much more than this. On a used market you can get a Steam Deck $320 (Steam) and a Rog Ally $530 (BestBuy) = $850 and add a Nintendo Switch and be at or under $999
wanna know something? remove the steam decks plastic filter and the deck runs cooler but by how much since it got cold here in germany. my deck is undervolted and 30w and due to the extremerate back, i did not use the new metal mesh yet. i also will do hotrod cooling soon
Really interesting 👏🏽 thanks for the review, I have two queations 😅 the Baterry how long to full charge?, and the Fan in terms of noise compare to steamdeck how louder it is?
Thanks for the review 🙏🏽
Mini Taki hands
This seems like an awesome device, but the price is extremely high. I'm also of the opinion that higher than 1080P on a handheld device is completely pointless. The power needed to run the device at 1600P instead of 1080P could've gone to running the games at better setting that aren't resolution and potentially better battery life.
Other than that I would actually consider getting one if I was completely broke at the moment.
At least it can do a perfect integer scale of 1280x800
Honestly ayaneo with them releasing a new system every year or less, makes me not wanna get one cause of the fear from the lack of support on older generations. That’s why i think the ally and especially the steam deck are great buys, where i can feel secure knowing my purchase would still be supported for years to come.
They literally run windows, who supports the PC someone builds 😂
I can't believe still some people asking for support......
Bro what support you want?
1. GPU + CPU + Motherboard all come from AMD drivers - ✅
2. OS software all come from Microsoft Windows - ✅
3. Aya Space it comes in all devices not to specific one - ✅
So what exactly you looking for? Stop making excuses
@@TRX25EXyeah this is also what i dont get, we get amd driver updates and aya while slow still update their ayaspace and now my air pro gen 1 with ayaspace 2 have better fan curves and better UI for changing power profiles, i dunno what support these devices should get if you ran to no problems
the only problem aya has is QC issue but every other brand also has that problem, its not always a deal breaker and aya does have customer support that responds timely for me when i had shipping issue so i really dunno the aya hate personally
also i used to have problems with joystick mode not responding and the mouse speed in the earlier days on my air pro and its been fixed with updates.. so like... whats the problem?
They didn't have support regardless 😂
I love it, and I can't wait to get mine.
👍
This is perfect for me when i'm on my yacht and one of the intoxicated supermodels drops the caviar overboard so we need to wait for more to be air dropped. I get the portability tax, but i'd like to know Aya's ideology with this.
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Can you show the difference that 50 watt brings with proper graphs ?
Have you seen any battery throttling on either the KUN or any other Ayaneo devices, possibly at higher TDPs? My Geek throttles after 30 minutes on battery if I'm using 25W or above. Being plugged in prevents it. The wattage drops to 8W and clocks to 400 MHz, but I was always below 80 degrees on the chip. It doesn't seem to happen at 22W.
I've had decent experiences with AYANEO so far but if I can only get 30 minutes on battery from a $1000 device then what gives
EDIT: I guess with your verdict on the power scaling, higher TDPs aren't as important. Would still want to confirm that it won't throttle at a somewhat elevated TDP though, 22W or above.
Same, but on Ayaneo 2. If I run hi-tdp on battery the whole nit will just tank performance after 20-30min. It’s why I’m selling it and getting Win Mini. Otherwise, Ayaneo has been really supportive of the product post-launch.
10:18 also thought that closing it and opening again would work
Are thet selling the device with 6400mhz RAM instead of something faster? And will the BIOS be completely locked for the units which are sold to customers?
Just preordered lenovo legion go. You get a lot for the price
could have been $300 cheaper if they just used a normal box
added costs for no reason. inb4 they say delays on shipping because they ran out of wood for the packaging
I want it 🙏🏼
Handheld pc had existed way before the steam deck and yet, steam deck is the one that finally made it mainstream. And that happened for one reason only. The price. No matter how many variations ayaneo or gpd coming out with, if they keep going for niche product like this, they can't really compete with something like sd or rog ally.
This isn’t to compete with the steam deck, the steam deck is for poor people and this is for rich gamers who don’t give a shit but genuinely want hardware that is so so so so so much better than the steam deck. It’s basically a portable ps4, only poor people play it. Not to mention it’s so ugly, terrible battery life
The deck hasnt even sold 1 million yet 🧢🤡
@@Jokerxeno1compair it to and xbox one, that was just as ugly as the steam deck
can wait fort the oled version and new ryzen 8000 cpu
I will get a used one some day. No way ever i will buy a new Ayaneo device again 😅
call me crazy but, even if it can run at 1600p... if you have to turn down all other settings to low, and the framerate is bad, is that really worth it? I would argue: no, no it is not.
What is the best handheld console to play Final Fantasy 7 remake? How does the Ayaneo Kun compare to the upcoming Lenovo Legion Go?
Look for the best GPU (7840U?), 16 GB RAM, SSD, then the rest will come down to personal preference and budget.
It doesn't really seem to be that you'll be doing much better than medium setting 800p 30 fps of the Steam Deck.
If you want much better than that, you'll want an occulink port, dock and use an eGPU.
Rog ally serves me well, got a xgmobile 6850 and it handles everything great tho even without it
did they cancel the slide ? kinda surprised to see they already gave out the kun for reviews n i saw they put out info about the flip but from what ive seen it looks like theyve given up on the slide
Do you think it would run on steamOS and if the trackpads become more useful? These trackpads sounds more useless than the steam deck ones currently.
I assume the 1600p is so you can play at 800p with something close to an integer scale, or play at 720 or 800p and scale up via FSR
Honestly all I really want is a Steam Deck version with this kind of colour reproduction. 720p for me is fine as I find on smaller screens internal rendering resolution is more important than output resolution in terms of showing off finer details and reducing aliasing. That's not saying higher screen resolution doesn't look better--especially for a device exceeding that 8" mark--but for the power constraints that are going to continue to be a constant issue with handhelds, I'd probably choose 720p into the future just to allow the devices to ramp up more of those detail settings and framerates.
Wait, what's wrong with the steam deck? Screen not pretty enough?
@@Yixdy - Yeah, it's a bargain basement IPS screen. Even budget laptops and tablets five or six years ago had better colour reproduction than the Deck, so you're only getting a portion of the basic colours that games are meant to display. It's considerably worse than the first gen Switch, which has far better sRGB coverage.
I'm assuming it's because when the deck was being released Valve didn't have many panel options to choose from with that size and resolution, but it'll be my primary reason for upgrading when an upgraded Deck comes around.
@@40Sec eh, I don't mind it at all bc honestly, isn't noticable imo. But of course how something looks is insanely subjective, maybe I'll buy a replacement screen, 1920x1200, 87% sRGB coverage, etc. For 99 bucks, not bad at all!
@@Yixdy - I'm not talking subjective here. It has been measured, and it's a garbage screen. Whether people are happy with drab displays that can't represent proper colours in their games is another matter.
I'd say this would be like many people being happy with the visuals of weak TN panels despite IPS and OLED being miles better, but even most TN panels now are better than what's in the Steam Deck.
Cute engineer 😄