INCREDIBLE 1936 Briggs & Stratton Electronic Ignition Upgrade & Valve Job
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- In "Uncle Andy Sells A Generator", Taryl goes over what it takes to do a valve job and also upgrade the electronic ignition coil on an old 1936 Briggs & Stratton WM (Washing Machine) engine. Prior to and after the fix, Taryl leaves Uncle Andy to watch the shop for a minute while he runs an errand. He returns to an angry customer that finds out Andy had sold his generator on accident. See how it all plays out here! And as always, There's Your Dinner!!
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Not only are you the best at this, you never hesitate to share knowledge. That is a sign of a confident, generous man. And it goes without saying that yours is, by FAR, the most entertaining of all the repair channels.👍👍👍
I'm still laughing at the mumbling an the burp...lol...
Love the old stuff. Every year at the fair (no fair this year😒) they have a bunch of hit-miss engines putting away. I would love to see Taryl get one of those.
You from MN?
@@bstevermer9293 from OH but live in NY.
I was gonna say the same thing. there's clubs that restore these pieces of history all over the nation. check it out. they would love to have you and your dinner.....d.e.
I used to set up every year I had Delco light plants and maytags and these and whatever I could buy
As you know these are the simplest carburetors ever they're called mixing valves same on the model y they don't even need a float pure Venturi suction from the tank.
I'm an old man and worked on small engines as a sideline when younger and still do some work on them now and then. I can relate to many of the older ones you work on and I especially liked this one. You have a definite talent and in my opinion after watching many of the channels on the subject, you are the best my friend. You have a great channel and deliver the best damn entertainment I've seen on here. Thanks for the hard work you put into your videos...it shows in your results. I'd like to know about where in northern Indiana you're located. I'm in the middle of the state about 5 miles from the Ohio line, 70 miles east of Indianapolis on U.S. 40.
Terry, I agree with you 100%. Well said! Best of wishes to you Sir. :)
Back in the day, we were taught how and where to run these washers. Same in the dry cleaning biz when petroleum was used as the cleaning fluid. Those that didn't pay attention weren't long for this world. Similar with fireworks. The shame in all of this is we no longer teach our kids much of anything. Guys driving around unable to change a tire.
..yeah..can't even drive..they can't shift gears or use a clutch, have to have an "AUGER-MAJIC", can't even do basic driving because they have been conditioned to depend on all the "Technology" to drive for them.... :(
...and they "passed" there driver's license on the "inner screen"!!😱🥴
When I was 9-10 years old I came across an old Briggs engine nearly identical to this one. Grandpa said it hadn't ran since the 1950s when they got electricity on the farm, and I could just have it. I bolted it to a board just like you did, and after a month (in the summer of 1975) of dinking around with it, I got it to run. One day Grandpa and Grandma came to visit, and I showed Grandpa I got his old engine to run. He couldn't believe it!
Also mentioning old Kohlers, I have a K160 I have been messing with.
Thanks for the memories!
I have I k181s that my uncle gave me he told me that my dad had blew up so I get to rebuild it it is my first rebuild
Great video. I love it when you get the old stuff running again.
I agree! :)
After the first brapp with the air impact I'm screaming "nooooo stop, left hand threads!!" Whew that was close!
It will be interesting to see if the old parts will still be available when the new investor takes over at Briggs.
You can just about bet that they will remove everything useful from the internet, for no logical reason. Seen this a lot as electronics and computer companies were absorbed in the 80s and 90s.
@@tonyfremont They do not want the old stuff repaired they want it binned and new ones purchased.
NOS parts are a goldmine as long as collectors are willing to pay a premium price.
Briggs who???
I wonder what kinda crap engines they’ll start putting out next
It's amazing that the flywheel from a motor that is 50 years newer works. I hope that Briggs parts and support continue to be available through this BK. Love the sound of a cast iron B&S, and their low idle speed.
I had one on my lime green little Indian mini bike
Man, I had one of those! When the engine went out we'd push it up the hill and take turns riding it back down. I'd love to still have it and put a harbor freight motor on it.
I have a B&S snowblower engine made in 1967. I also have a 1987 snowblower engine. The starter from the 87 also fit and worked perfectly on the 67 engine.
Years ago a mouse damaged the windings on my old GE traditional style washer and my wife rejoiced (I'm not convinced she didn't vuck it up) because she had to have a new p.o.s digital front load disaster that never works , I put that old washer and the dryer out in a shed out from the barn and rigged a little Brigs engine to it with a pipe going out the wall of the shed for the exhaust and welded a old tensioner pully from my truck to a tire iron to engage it...guess what the damn thing still works and she has to use it from time to time when her new fancy turd won't work, I use it often to wash my shop and farm clothes, I have about 60' of copper line coiled in a plexiglass box on the roof of the barn that heats the water from the sun ifill it with a water hose the throw then on the clothes line when I'm done and hang them back in my closet in the barn😉
When I was a kid (14) we used a washer machine engine on a go cart. Not very fast but at 14 it was awesome fun
I came up on an old Briggs engine in a lien sale, it was a ww2 military engine tagged as a replacement engine for something. It had never been installed but the coil had decomposed. I’d never seen anything like it, all the coatings on it had turned to dust. Anyways we had a local surplus store that sold a lot of old stock military parts and they had one but said it was for aesthetic purposes only because they wouldn’t warranty it working, but I started asking around on collectors forums and a guy pointed me to a site that sold new replacement coils, it was just the coil pack and you had to press it on the frame yourself but it worked great. I’d tell you the name of the site but I can’t remember to save my life but I can tell you it was dedicated to restoring those old engines
We had one of these engines back in the 1950s' It had been on my grandmother's washing machine. It has a long flexible metal hose that ran to the exhaust. This was used to take the exhaust outside. Wish I still had the engine. I am in my early 70s and it would have been fun to show it to my grandkids.
Thank you. I used this trick on my Briggs and Stratton 5s to get it running again. I am now able to use my Excello reel mower again.
I really enjoyed this one! I suppose I'm an "old soul" and love seeing old things run again. Please do a follow up video of you fixing the kick starter! :) Best of wishes to all.
Ditto from me too Taryl. Let us know when and how ya fixed that kick starter.
I use to make a lot of spark plug or coil wires and I bought a roll of Packard 440 copper core wire made for that purpose from J. C. Whitney & Company.
Bought lot of stuff from them 40+ years ago. I miss their catalog ☹️. I lived way out in the hills of E. Tennessee & couldn't run to town every time I needed something, but the mailman ran by my farm 6 days a week.
Runs like a champ now. When I was a kid, I took apart a 3 horse cast iron briggs off of an old water pump my dad had from the 1950's. Well like lots of things we do as kids, it never got put back together again. I wish I had it today. I wanted to see some cement shoes and Podunk lake, lol.
"You ripping me off" what does that even means lady?😂😂 You the best taryl
" THEY'RE PROBABLY DIRTY PEOPLE " LMFAO, HAD TO STOP VID. FOR A MIN. OR 2, DAMNED NEAR PISSED MYSELF.
That made me laff too
The price some people have to pay for clean laundry, to die for it.
Me too!🤣😅😆
I'm changing right now.....sh....t
I just finished watching this video. Really enjoyed the character that was going to knock uncle Andy’s block off. He really makes me laugh.
Interesting interchanging those parts for electronic spark. Nice to see the old gal running sweet. Nice work. Great comedy too, thanks all👍
Lol
Dont have to get old to not see. I been legally blind since birth. My good eye has 20/200 rating.
Dad ta8ght me when i was young about these engines. Love watching ur videos. Never knowv what ull work on next.
Keep up the great imformative videos.
Id love to see a kickstart model on a gokart or minibike.
Taryl = Pure Genius, you my friend have a lot of years of knowledge, great video and a new subscriber.
What a great job of thinking outside of the shop (box) . Thank you Taryl and crew. You are on my bucket list of people to visit and thank for all I have learned from your channel. Will visit you and your city soon, Thanks again!
I love watching Taryl, hes like the Briggs and Stratton surgeon. I rebuilt my 5 horsepower Briggs on my restored Robron go-kart after watching him 2 years ago. Great needed detail.
I love the enthuziazims Taryl has for this work, I can say I have really learned things
about these engines and how to do a valve job or lapping. thumbs up Taryl
This is great stuff always learning something without spending a ton of money to fix it Thank you Taryl !!!
Hello terry Stover, I got back into fixing generators last winter, sort of by accident, I have
2 generators I maintain and they are always ready, 'cept last year when I moved up to N.E.
apparently gas valve got moved to the ON pos. 1st time since 2014 I could not get'er
going when I needed to. I hadn't pulled a carb apart since the 70's! yet watching the flying
dinosaur which is what a TARylDactal is I had No problem at all and got her running again.
Yeah Taryl is a well talented gent at what he does and the way he is kind to help us out
there to get/and or keep our engines running and giving some great entertainment.
Taryl, you are exactly right. I remember seeing a valve grinding tool that that had a crank on it and it had two pins that engaged in the top of the valve. When cranked , the valve would oscillate back and forth.
very neat
we used a couple of these old brigs with the small low fuel tank/carb sucks the fuel up from it. to pump water on the farm. we would measure how much fuel we put in the tank for the amount of water pumped. start up and let it go till it would stop by itself when the fuel ran out. put an old wash tub over it to keep the weather out.
That looks like the really old scrap briggs we put on our push cart in 1957. My cousin and I were 6 years old and build the cart, but my father put the his Briggs on the back. My father got the engine running by belt drive starting from the table saw motor.
You got that engine runnin so sweet, just open the lid of the washer and the laundry gets flung out onto the clothesline! I appreciate your workmanship Taryl, and all the work by the crew for these videos!
I’m so old school that I actually like the smell of Indian Head gasket shellac.
Wayne Swicegood . And don’t forget the handy , no mess swab applicator. 😊
i think that was diluted down tar
dan o Great on hot biscuits in the morning.
Will Permatex consider changing the name of the shellac?
@@paultennis9414 Hah... Yeah - The Gasket Shellac Company - Now nobody's feelings are hurt...
"The guy who doesn't have all those fancy tools . . ." BINGO -- THANK YOU !!!
Great granny had a gas powered washing Machine, she put great value on that machine, she would not let anyone get close to it. It amazed me when she used it once a week and always had a big smile. She got an electric model at some point and the old gas job turned into a big flower pot, she loved flowers.
I have an old Whirlpool; wringer washer in the barn that came with a WM engine. Mom and dad's house burned in 1938 so it was just after that when they got it. We got electricity out here in 1947 and dad put an electric motor on it. I still remember mom washing with it on the back porch of the old house in the early sixties and heating water in the wash pot. That was a good dinner by the way.
Taryl, your knowledge and ingenuity are truly amazing. Thank you for sharing them in these entertaining videos. This one prompted me to remember my dad (born 1922) telling about using an engine he took from his mother's old washing machine to power one of his go-karts. I don't know if that's when she "went electric" or just got a newer gasoline powered washer. Cheers.
I see Taryl has an epoch-appropriate desk phone with a corded handset! Very cool.
Awsome!!.. Taryl + Team are the best in their unique category!!..
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Another excellent how-to on older Briggs engine. Great to see so many characters in one vid. Thanks guys.
1936, 86 years ago cool. You put a lot a work in that. Good job.
Thanks for the info and part numbers. I got the flywheel and the coil and the old WMB fired right up and ran like a champ. I would have never thought that they would be the same enough to work . Thanks Again.
I think the valve lapping tool could have been a small nail you would put in one of the holes on top of the valve and spin the valve like a crank. In modern day you could use a small “L” shaped Allen wrench. My father used a mail in a small piece of wood.
Great video. The Briggs WM sounded like motors i was used to in the good old days.
I still have a Maytag gas engine for a washer that my uncle gave me.
Post a photo...is it running??
Hand tool rescue recently rebuilt one of them with the washer. Check it out
That's so cool!!!
My oldest Briggs&Stratton ''CRAFTSMAN'' engine is a 1982 5hp. I hope this baby will take place in a mini bike sometime.
Taryl loves fixing up these old glacier melting anachronisms. Somewhere out on one of the islands in the Pacific some poor schmuck woke up to a living room full seawater. "Wake up everybody and gather around," he says to his 15 tiny little children. "Taryl must have posted another video on youtube!!!"
The holes in the valves were as you assumed to be used with a tool which was very much like a hand cranked egg beater. Rather than going round and round, the tool oscilated back and forth like the way which you used the suction cup grinder,
Remember that tool. Would oscillate back and forth maybe 45 degrees or so, and had a little flat adapter with two fingers that fit the valve holes. Likely were more with the tool when new, Not sure if that was a BS tool or not? I have a WI that served my motor bike for a couple years around 1955 or so LOL. Still have it and runs.
Taryl thanks for bringing these old engines back to life! Would be neat if you could find a vintage washing machine to attach to to!
The zim crank valve grinder that Briggs used had a slot cut into the shaft the rubber tips went into that you could put a flat metal plate with pins that matched the holes in the valve so you could lap the valves. That crank grinder is still available, just search zim crank style valve lapping tool
Well done taryl. You are the man when it comes to making Briggs and Scranton engines work. I like the cross referencing other parts that will work too. Keep up the great work and make sure you keep stranglers out of your shop too. Feed your dinosaur also.
I had one of those Briggs, complete with kick start. I put it on my minibike, a Hiawatha Doodlebug, when I was 10. It wasn't the fastest minibike in the neighborhood, but definitely one of the coolest.
I love when you do antique moto rebuilds,, thumbs up he he he
I suggest putting that Briggs engine on Slipper's wheelchair so he can be first in line at the Old Country Buffet!
LOL Nice one!
SInce Taryl knows the ins and outs along with having a commanding knowledge of the strengths & weaknesses of B&S engines for the past 60 years or so - they would be well served to have people like him hired on a consultant basis to improve the design of their modern engines...the QC function of those improvements would be left up to them. I own an American made 15 yr old B&S engine and it runs perfectly with simple maintenance. Never pulled the rope over 3 times ever to start and most of the time it fired off on the first pull.
Yes, there was a tool that fit the holes in the top of the valves. The one my Grandfather had, had a crank that you turn, and the tool would twist back and forth.
You can still find them and their head looks a bit like a Dzus fastener "snoopy" tool but part of the point for those slots (common to many old engines) was that you could also use a screwdriver bit in a bit brace or whatever works to lap the valves. Some tools looked like a hand drill and there was quite a variety.
Taryl is the Briggs & Scratten authority. Big Billy Briggs would be proud!
Taryl never disappoints - a true master !!
My 3 horsepower Briggs and Stratton powered lawnmower (92500 engine) started running like crap at higher RPMs & adjusting the carburetor didn't make a difference.
The ignition coil eventually blew on it so I used one off a 4 horsepower Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine that I'm yet to rebuild,the 3 horsepower engine revved out a lot cleaner at higher RPMs then.
I have since fitted a brand new ignition coil & it runs great.
Regarding that joiner piece that you put in for the spark plug lead,you can insulate it with glue lined heatshrink tubing (Raychem) to insulate it,it will make it a neat job as well !
I like when he says you can throttle up the engine lol extra fast spin wash 🧼 lol 😂
Man that intro was good🤣🤣👍
In Boise Idaho back in the 50s when I was a kid, our next door neighbor washed her clothes in a gas washing machine out side and I used to watch her wash them with that old ringer washing machine with a Briggs motor she would start. I thought it was cool back then and always will remember small engines as I grew up which led us to larger engines in cars and motorcycles and lawn mowers etc. Those were the days. And yes I am old.
LMFAO! I haven't heard the phrase "knuckle sandwich" since the fourth grade!
THANK TARYL FOR YOU TUTORIAL VIDEOS.....REALLY HELPFULL...
Love this channel!! Taryl, I have two Korean War Era generators. They have been sitting many years but ran when I put them away. They are 12v generators that were used for communication equipment that could be transferred to a vehicle. I was 18th Airborne commo so I've acquired a few things here and there. I'd love to see you make them run. You're welcome to both. They should not be junked. It's military history. For their age they are in good shape. I can deliver them to your shop if you are interested.
You the man Taryl. I use your Guru knowledge all the time when I fix anything. Thank you my brother. Oh oh what do you mean lol
Very fun to watch and creative fix
Steve from Annapolis keep up the good work with the oldies but goodies they're the best they always will be they run forever when they run got my vote this video is a year-old wow I didn't know that
Keep up the good work taryl
Cool video 👌. Now here's a challenge for you convert a Briggs model Z to electronic ignition I have one and it's got a bad coil
I have a Lincwelder with a twin onan engine. it was left out in the weather. and had no spark. I baked the coil and recoated it on the outside with non vinegar silicon to keep the water resistance. because the baking left cracks in the covering. it runs perfect.
Some of the exposed wound coils could be baked at low temps to dry out...then dipped in a electric motor varnish and baked at a low temp. There is an air dry coil varnish that can be applied to a open face coil, but you need to have the moisture driven from the coil if possible. Might extend the life of an old coil if the turns are not shorted internally in the winding.
@@jaritkeith8931 worth a try if you can not get the replacement parts. once done and insulated I have never had it fail again. bake at temp that will boil out water but not melt solder or ruin varnish insulation on wire. about 250 F is good.
@@NebukedNezzer Good info. A slow bake over several hours is usually what we did. Then checked with megger. With larger coil/windings, can take a while to cook out moisture. Small coils like this would likely bake out fine. Exposed windings or coils would usually be sprayed after a varnish and bake with Glyptal red insulating paint. Sounds like you had good luck with your repairs. Good deal and a part salvaged. Cool.
Ya,the Ole Basin Banger definitely sounds alot Stronger now! Good Job! 👌 B Ssfe!
57:05 They had those 12 or 15 foot flexible exhaust pipes that they could run out the door, many years ago we had a couple of those pipes but they have long since went to the wayside.
Poor Andy just wants to help a fella out he didn’t k ow any better you gotta love Andy
my dad had some coils he saved the old style points and condenser type but the upgrades are great just put on gap them and start
I had one of those B&S valve tools decades ago .... center pin, then 1 on each side to spin the valve .... found it in my grandfathers tools .... nice job on the valve job
Amish people love these engines. I go to an auction every month in Ohio and these bring big money with them.
Never ever seizes to amaze me. Thanks Taryl and Team!
Hi,
Really enjoyed the video. My Aunt who lived on their farm near Quarryville, Pa. had one of those old gas powered washing machines in her cellar. I never saw it run but it was sure nice to see you bring this one back to life.
John
Super awesome video as usual! I’m new to the channel, so I’m binge watching the entire series: love it.
-I wonder if the low usage of this particular engine is a result of the era?
Electric washing machines became more popular in the 40’s. Guess it’s possible they got it, then transitioned to electric shortly thereafter.
-As a teenager, my dad took one of these and mounted it to a bicycle and made it into a motorbike.
Thanks for an awesome video.
A kick start mini bike would be cool.
I had a Cushman scooter in the 70's (wish I still had it!) that was a kick start, pretty neat. It's kinda more of a step start than kick lol.
With only 1/2 hp it wouldn't go very fast...
Scary, but you commenting on those dimples in the top of the valves reminded me of running across some ancient metal hand crank tool for lapping some sort of engines valves, out in my garage. Most likely, some swap meet find.
Likely from an old Maytag. Most of them ran a proprietary 2-stroke engine, but some of them ran 4-stroke B&S engines.
That was absolutely brilliant Taryl
Nice to see Dr Taryl wrenching again!!! When will we see part two of slip dogs rebuild? Thanks for sharing doctor!!!
The reason that light flywheels work on push mowers is that the blades weight adds to the overall inertia of the engine. I expect that the horizontal engines with light flywheels will bog down when put under load because it lacks the inertia of the heavy flywheel. Just my opinion............THANKS FOR YOUR GREAT VIDEOS!!!
I have that valve tool that turns the valve it look like an egg better an the end rotates back and forth just like when you do it by hand has two pegs to fit the holes
I learned something new today they put these on washing machines thats awesome I was born at the wrong era wish I was born back than
For sh*t and giggles, I'd do the laundry Sunday at 6:00 am. Just to get everybody out of their bed at a decent time.
You must be my neighbor...idiot across the road lays on his stinkin' backside all Saturday and then mows the grass and weedeats on the Sabbath. I look for a lightning bolt to flash one day a fry him.
@@mark-wn5ek Solution !
Be the better person and, do it for him on Saturday. That should make him feel guilty enough to get off his backside.
@@rverro8478 well....seeing as how I'm nearly old enough to be his dad and living on my pension.....I think he ought to have some respect for the Almighty, if not his elders and neighbors. My folks, unfortunately, we're not church goers. However, we were taught respect for the sabbath. You had 6 days to get your work done and on the 7th, you didn't run lawnmowers and chainsaws. ...weren't no weedeaters then....or make a nuisance of yourself to others. It was a quiet day....when people sat under the shade tree or on the porch, visited the neighbors or took a long deserved nap after working all week. You can't have those simple pleasures anymore because of jackasses like one who lives across the road from me....and no, bless his poor triflin' soul...it's not the only day of the week he has free. He's too lazy to work.
That reminds me of an engine we had in my basement when I was a kid in the late 50s and 60s with the same kick starter. My dad had a gear type water pump hooked up to it to pump out the basement when it flooded and yes the muffler had a long flexable metal pipe goin outside the house. The gas tank was thick with black gue which I know now was varnish. It never ran but, to see yours run was pretty cool. When you were talking about the valve clips I was thinking pins which you found. It even had the same carborator. Thanks for the memories.Thats a keeper!
I have 3 of those beauties! None are WM. Mine are the very rare 3 legged Daddy Taryl designation!
2 hundy... 2 hundy.... ... .. . SNAP .... what a happy sound !!
Carol would be proud. Wouldn’t let Slippers look after my pet rock!
You should get a dinner bell Taryl!
A lot of these old Briggs share parts in my experience. I’ve had so many of them. There a great running engine. Not much power but definitely a classic
those carbs you set it a little rich on full tank so it does not lean out to much when the tank runs low.
i bought a 2hp briggs for $5 or was it $6 over 50 years ago for a 3 wheel go cart i built and welded in summer school... it was older looking than that one... i had a rope start opinion ,but since i had wheel barrel tires in back and direct fan belt from left wheel to the motor i just push started and hopped on... i rode that thing everywhere...
Thank you
You are the best that I know