Should you give up learning New Testament Greek? | Q&A

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025

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  • @kwamedix3264
    @kwamedix3264 Год назад +5

    A friend asked me awhile ago what helps me in being consistent, even persistent, at daily jumping into the scriptures, and this was my response:
    1. I'm seeing something new nearly every time I pick up the scriptures to read, being that I read the scriptures devotionally in the original languages. I've even in Logos made my scriptural search results come up first in Hebrew or Greek, depending on the book; then if needed, check translations.
    2. I see that my ability to understand and exegete the verses and passages is growing more and more keen in light of.
    3. I invest myself into the experiences of the characters' lives and experiences, noticing the nuances of what and how they said things, and even how the writers word the way they moved about.
    4. Most importantly I have a personal goal of why I'm reading devotionally, and to see and understand how it is being revealed via my personal devotional time has and is springing within me the desire to read how in the next passage or chapter this goal is to be revealed.
    That's what I notice has been the help for me.

  • @drmmtatom
    @drmmtatom 6 месяцев назад

    Darryl, thank you for your continued support and encouragement for those of us who are trying to learn/relearn Biblical Greek.

  • @DW-vl2eu
    @DW-vl2eu Год назад +2

    I’m in seminary I can already see that the classes are helpful but not enough!! This is something one must commit to lord willing long after seminary I will keep at it!!! I’m intrigued by it all and I want to know Gods word better!!

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад

      Very true. Seminary will get you started, but you'll need more to retain your Greek let alone develop it further.

  • @DonaldPotter_ReadingZone
    @DonaldPotter_ReadingZone Год назад +3

    You are correct about the schools no longer teaching the grammar that we were taught starting in third grade in the 1950s. As a private Spanish teacher, I have to teach English grammar along with the Spanish since my students know practically no English grammar. My own development as a reader of Greek has been greatly enhanced by daily morning devotions at the breakfast table. I find it very a good way to feed my body and soul at the same time. I focus on "roots," following A. T. Robertson, who wrote, "Apparently only some 400 roots are know for some 90,000 words in the LIddell & Scott Lexicon and less than half of hse words appear in so-called classical Greek." (A New Short Grammar of NT Greek, 10th Ed., page 172)

  • @alexandersmith9385
    @alexandersmith9385 Год назад +2

    After completing beginning Greek, I was determined to continue learning the language. Studying on my own has been slow but I kept "taking small consistent steps." Then I found BMA which is truly a Godsend.
    I arise early each day to study for at least one hour (today two). Regardless of how the session goes, I end with reading a text that I have become proficient in. Therefore I always end on an encouraging note.

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад

      That's great! Thanks for your comment!

  • @tchittom
    @tchittom Год назад

    Always great to hear from you, Darryl. Love this Q&A. Lots of wisdom here. How is your Reconstructed shift going?

  • @Dwayne_Green
    @Dwayne_Green Год назад +4

    According to "Atomic Habits" 4% past your ability is considered the optimal amount of challenge to stay motivated to keep doing something. If you go to fast, it will be too hard, if you go to slow you'll be too bored.

  • @danieljarchow8979
    @danieljarchow8979 11 месяцев назад

    Hey Darryl! Really appreciate this channel. It’s been super helpful in getting my Greek back and then developing it further. It’s been a blessing.
    Do you have any tips or tools to understanding common verbs that take many different prefixes? I find myself getting tripped up on these words because I’m learned them one at a time through each of the NT books. It would be helpful to see a root verb then look at all of the different prefixed differences together. Thanks!

    • @bma
      @bma  11 месяцев назад

      I've got a video coming on this tomorrow. :)

  • @davidbooth3101
    @davidbooth3101 Год назад +1

    One of the problems with modern approaches to the grammar translation method is that it was crammed into two semesters or occasionally three semesters of seminary. The result is that students learned something about the grammar without ever working through large blocks of comprehensible input which is something that researchers have shown is important for learning a language. The result is that many MDiv graduates cannot read Greek and/or Hebrew 10 years after they graduate. This is one of the ways that BMA is superior to the classroom environment. BMA facilitates students learning Greek and Hebrew over years so that students have growing enjoyment and mastery. There is nothing wrong with studying in seminary so long as the students see this as the beginning of their study rather than the totality of their study.

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад

      Some seminaries are starting to incorporate reading into their studies, but you're right. For the most part seminaries are focused on exegesis - which is necessary - but not long term language acquisition. Thanks for your comment!

  • @pierreabbat6157
    @pierreabbat6157 Год назад +1

    I learned Greek from an interlinear, which is about as close as one can get to natural language acquisition of an ancient language until Beth and Angela started making videos. As a result, I can read and understand most of the NT fluently, but if asked to decline "πηχυς" I'd probably get at least one form wrong.
    Beth teaches grammar, using Hebrew terms for common concepts like "beynoni" as well as Semitic-specific concepts like "hif`il".

  • @paulmitchell2916
    @paulmitchell2916 11 месяцев назад

    Where to buy a Septuagint? Or a Septuagint psalter? (I like to pretend I'm a hermit in the time of the Desert Fathers and pray psalms in Greek).

  • @jesuschristbiblebiblestudy
    @jesuschristbiblebiblestudy Год назад

    Why not learn both Greek and Hebrew?
    Reading the Bible that way can open up new insights, and help with understanding the Septuagint.
    Blessings.
    Pastor John

  • @thomasb24
    @thomasb24 4 месяца назад

    The particles are killing me lol. They get jumbled in my head. Any advice?

  • @DunstanStLuce
    @DunstanStLuce Год назад

    I am eager to be able to read the New Testament. I am almost completed first year Greek. I am now studying the me verbs with Mounce. You were recommending increase ones vocabulary from easy to harder books. I would like to have the vocabulary for each book. Where can I find orbuy them.

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад

      Awesome! You will find the Greek Vocab Pack at bma.to/gvp

  • @generalusgrant
    @generalusgrant Год назад

    Great video, Darryl, thanks! Near the beginning, on screen offers the GetStarted link saying that it uses both approaches -- natural language and grammar-translate? And if so, is that about the whole approach of BMA or specifically the new Greek course you've just launched? I'm currently taking BMA Beginning Greek with Merkle and Plummer and haven't really looked into the new offering. But if it does draw partially on natural language I'd be interested. Getting started with Greek has deepened my interest in the New Testament and I'd like to go further. So thanks for all you do.

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад +1

      As you progress through Beginning Greek in Small Steps we add some English to Greek exercises, but this isn't what you're after. Right now, we're not leveraging NLA, but I'm open to it in the future.

    • @generalusgrant
      @generalusgrant Год назад

      Great, thanks!@@bma

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад +1

      Just a further note: so far the feedback on Beginning Greek in Small Steps is that it is easier than Beginning with New Testament Greek, and it doesn't cost anything extra :)

  • @danielmorris6675
    @danielmorris6675 Год назад

    I wanted to ask, will there be at some point a Hebrew vocab pack able to be purchased, maybe in the future, as you have with the Greek vocabulary pack?

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад

      Yes. We're working on it! It will probably be released in stages.

  • @geelamar3542
    @geelamar3542 Год назад

    A life long commitment?

  • @aMillionHotels
    @aMillionHotels Год назад

    Why is no one refuting the lie that Christ rose on the first day of the week when ALL THE GREEK MANUSCRIPTS says He rose on the SABBATON (SABBATH)? Strong's G-4521.

    • @DunstanStLuce
      @DunstanStLuce Год назад

      What relevance does that have with learning how to read Greek?

    • @bma
      @bma  Год назад +1

      I think it might be a question for me to review in the future?

    • @aMillionHotels
      @aMillionHotels Год назад

      EVERYTHING! In all of the Greek Manuscripts of the Bible, THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK (SUNDAY) WAS NEVER MENTIONED ONCE, IN THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT! It's easy to prove this if you're really a Bible student and not a Rome-tainted poser. No offense, per se. All of the Greek Manuscripts that cite the Resurrection, agree in full harmony that the Savior rose from the dead on THE SABBATON (SABBATH) Strong’s Concordance #4521. NOT SUNDAY!
      The are very few New Testament Greek Manuscripts that are still in existence, with record of the Resurrection. They are as follows: Papyrus 66 (150-200 AD) contains portions of Matthew & John. Codex Vaticanus (325-350 AD). Codex Sinaiticus (330-360 AD). Codex Alexandrinus (400 AD). And as stated, they all fully agree that the Resurrection Day of the Son of God was the SABBATON (SABBATH), not the first day of the week!
      Check ANY NON-CATHOLIC LEXICON. Here's the most popular Lexicon in the world... Thayers: BlueLetterBible.org. OR USE VIRTUALLY ANY LEXICON... NON-CATHOLIC! Rome has long proven herself as untrustworthy.
      Be sure to click the TOOLS TAB TO SEE THE GREEK AND ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS, WORD FOR WORD....
      Just type in all of the Resurrection Scriptures & CLICK THE TOOLS TAB, and you'll confess that our Blessed Messiah rose on the Sabbaton (SABBATH), NEVER SUNDAY! Again, the first day of the week is NEVER mentioned once in the entire Greek New Testament!
      Here are all of the Resurrection Scriptures to make your research even easier: MATTHEW 28:1... MARK 16:1-2... LUKE 24:1...JOHN 20:1... JOHN 20:19... And check out the following 2 verses that are used by Rome-tainted Christianity, to pretend that the Church gathered on the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK... THEY SAY SABBATON (SABBATH) TOO. ACTS 20:7 & 1 CORINTHIANS 16:1-2.
      Research truth and forsake man-made, Commandment breaking paganism, AND OBEY ALL 10 OF OUR GOD'S HOLY COMMANDMENTS. Including honoring His Holy 7th Day Sabbath (Exodus 20:8-11). Cherry-pickers of the eternal 10 Commands will suffer consequences. You don't have to be one of them!
      The Damnable Conspiracy of Christianity. ruclips.net/video/IxuYMXJ-L2c/видео.htmlsi=gZSTOItEWo0lgt1_
      The attached video link shows you with your own eyes and in your own Bible, that an Easter Sunday Resurrection is a Catholic-invented lie. A fabrication that was motivated largely by the desire to align with the sun worshipper, Constantine the Great. And partly motivated by the attempt to disassociate the Church from the stigma of the Jewish religion during that historical period.
      Explore an online Thayer’s Lexicon (BlueLetterBible.org) to unveil a consistent pattern in the original Greek language of the Bible concerning the Resurrection Day of the Savior. Notably, the original Greek text does not ever mention the “FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK” (SUNDAY) during these occurrences. Instead, each Resurrection scripture specifies that Christ rose on the “SABBATON” (Strong’s # G4521). Intriguingly, “SABBATON” is translated as “SABBATH” or “SABBATH DAY” 59 times in the New Testament. However, intentional mistranslations by the Church of Rome (Catholic Church) and subsequent translations have replaced “SABBATON” with “FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK.”
      This heresy occurs each time that the Resurrection is cited to falsely support a sacred Sunday narrative. This alteration becomes particularly significant given the historical context, as Sunday held a sacred status for the sun-worshiping Romans of that era. Of course, the Church of Rome was too high and mighty (and likely antisemitic) to be associated with the Jewish practice of Sabbath Keeping. And the only way to pretend to justify Sunday as sacred was to pretend that Christ rose on that day.
      The video also proves that it’s a Biblical and mathematical impossibility for the Savior to have been crucified on Good Friday and resurrected on Sunday morning. It’s literally impossible, based on the Messiah’s own prophecy! This is why you can’t get 3 days & 3 nights from Good Friday to Easter Sunday morning. (Matthew 12:40) “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Those are the words of Christ, Himself. And if you can miraculously get 3 nights from Friday afternoon to sunrise Sunday morning, you’re a wizard.
      Yet, Christianity & Catholicism force you to suspend disbelief to hide the sanctity of the Biblical 7th Day Sabbath! And to elevate the man-made, pagan-inspired, unbiblical holy day - Sunday.
      There were 2 SABBATHS THE WEEK THAT OUR LORD DIED. The first Sabbath was the Ceremonial Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. This is the HIGH DAY SABBATH that forced the Jews to beg Pilate to remove Christ from the cross, before that Sabbath began at sunset. (JOHN 19:31 & LEVITICUS 23:5-8) Christianity pretends it was a Friday. But the Bible contradicts this common error. Because again, Christ said He would be in the grave, not just 3 days, but 3 NIGHTS, TOO. (Matthew 12:40). And there is no way in Heaven you can get 3 days & nights from a Friday afternoon Crucifixion to an early Sunday morning Resurrection.
      Here is the timeline of our Savior’s Death, Burial, and Holy Resurrection: THE MESSIAH DIED ON A WEDNESDAY & ROSE ON SATURDAY AT SUNRISE, THE HOLY SABBATH (SABBATON)! However, established Christian religions have capitalized on the complacency, and perhaps, the reluctance of their followers to research this straightforward yet crucial TRUTH! Counting the death and resurrection days can be disconcerting, and it’s entirely understandable given the complexities involved. Our brains are accustomed to the time frames we’ve known throughout our lives, and factoring in the new day starting at sunset adds an additional layer of intricacy. It’s a nuanced process that can be challenging to grasp at first. But the accurate death & resurrection days of our Savior are of the utmost importance for several spiritual reasons!
      This mistranslation heresy also continues in the Book of Acts and 1 Corinthians. In the Greek language of the New Testament, SABBATON (Strong’s # G4521) was also mistranslated in two Scriptures that Churches erroneously use to validate their “Sunday as Sacred” dogma. Acts 20:7 & 1 Corinthians 16:1-2. The same blasphemy the Roman Catholic Church performed to the Resurrection Scriptures, they repeat here. They intentionally MISTRANSLATED the Greek word “SABBATON” to “WEEK.” and added “First Day” in front of it. And just like magic… SUNDAY!
      Rest assured, the Sun-worshipping Emperor, Constantine the Great, played a pivotal role in orchestrating this deceptive bait-and-switch. In 321 AD, he formally implemented the notorious SUNDAY LAW, which prohibited the operation of shops and businesses on the DAY OF THE SUN. In a calculated exchange for the compliance of the “Christian” religion to honor the “Venerable Day” of his Sun god (Sol Invictus), Constantine ceased the persecution of Christianity through the EDICT OF MILAN in 313 AD. Astonishingly, he professed to be Christian himself, citing a dream that allegedly instructed him to conquer BY THE SIGN OF THE CROSS. This narrative raises questions about the authenticity of such claims, particularly when juxtaposed with the teachings of Christ found in the Holy Bible.
      Finally, in 364 AD, during the Council of Laodicea (CANON 29), the Roman Catholic Church cemented the culmination of this unholy manipulation. Committing the most egregious offense, they literally outlawed the observance of the Holy 4th Commandment, imposing a curse on those who dared to obey the Biblical Sabbath Commandment. Devoid of any Biblical authority, they audaciously attempted to shift the sanctity from the Holy 7th Day Sabbath to Sunday, the first day of the week. This heretical and blasphemous act has unfortunately persisted as the established norm for both Catholics and Christians alike ever since.
      @@DunstanStLuce

    • @aMillionHotels
      @aMillionHotels Год назад

      I beg you to check into it. It's one of the greatest lies ever told. 1700 years old and still going strong, worldwide. YHWH's truth is there for all to see. But Christians are too lazy and/or apathetic to see for themselves.
      In all of the Greek Manuscripts of the Bible, THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK (SUNDAY) WAS NEVER MENTIONED ONCE, IN THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT! It's easy to prove if you're really a Bible student and not Rome-tainted. No offense, per se. All of the Greek Manuscripts that cite the Resurrection, agree in full harmony that the Savior rose from the dead on THE SABBATON (SABBATH) Strong’s Concordance #4521. NOT SUNDAY!
      The are very few New Testament Greek Manuscripts that are still in existence, with record of the Resurrection. They are as follows: Papyrus 75 & Papyrus 66 (150-200 AD) Luke 24:1 & John 20:1 & 19. Codex Vaticanus (325-350 AD). Codex Sinaiticus (330-360 AD). Codex Alexandrinus (400 AD). And as stated, they all fully agree that the Resurrection Day of the Son of God was the SABBATON (SABBATH), not the first day of the week!
      Check ANY NON-CATHOLIC LEXICON. Here's the most popular Lexicon in the world... Thayers: BlueLetterBible.org. OR USE VIRTUALLY ANY LEXICON... NON-CATHOLIC! Rome has long proven herself as untrustworthy.
      Be sure to click the TOOLS TAB TO SEE THE GREEK AND ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS, WORD FOR WORD....
      Just type in all of the Resurrection Scriptures & CLICK THE TOOLS TAB, and you'll confess that our Blessed Messiah rose on the Sabbaton (SABBATH), NEVER SUNDAY! Again, the first day of the week is NEVER mentioned once in the entire Greek New Testament!
      Here are all of the Resurrection Scriptures to make your research even easier: MATTHEW 28:1... MARK 16:1-2... LUKE 24:1...JOHN 20:1... JOHN 20:19... And check out the following 2 verses that are used by Rome-tainted Christianity, to pretend that the Church gathered on the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK... THEY SAY SABBATON (SABBATH) TOO. ACTS 20:7 & 1 CORINTHIANS 16:1-2.
      Research truth and forsake man-made, Commandment breaking paganism, AND OBEY ALL 10 OF OUR GOD'S HOLY COMMANDMENTS. Including honoring His Holy 7th Day Sabbath (Exodus 20:8-11). Cherry-pickers of the eternal 10 Commands will suffer consequences. You don't have to be one of them!
      @@bma

    • @aMillionHotels
      @aMillionHotels Год назад

      WHY ARE YOU DELETING HUGELY PERTINENT BIBLICAL TRUTH? Never mind, I already know the answer. SMH! @@bma

  • @JamesRichardWiley
    @JamesRichardWiley 11 месяцев назад

    Study Greek all you want. The Hebrew god Yahweh and his famous son Yeshua won't make an appearance.