Exploring the new Windows 11 Setup Experience - build 26040
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The impossible has happened: Microsoft finally updated the Windows Setup experience that was introduced way back in Windows Vista. As of now, it is only on the latest Windows 11 Canary build, 26040, but it's expected to trickle down to the next major version of Windows.
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Still Win 7 window style and Win 8 fullscreen style. xD
There is a reason it's in the canary channel
It looks like it's in mid-development,. I am pretty sure Windows 7 window style will be changed as well.
@@MarcinKralka I doubt that this Windows style changes, unless Microsoft decides to alter how DWM-less styles look like
@@TheTytan007of which if you want to fix that right now you will have to modify the image cuz Microsoft will not care
@@MarcinKralkait won't 😂 maybe in Windows 13 or 14
Its not able to run even decent enough on my optiplex 160 with 4gigs, and a 1.6 atom cpu. I know its junk but i already own it, and its not bad with linux. But would tiny 10 work better? Is tiny10 less needy than tiny 11? Thanks! Awesome work!
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I can't believe that with every "improvement" or update in a Microsoft product, things take longer to finish their processes. Look at all the 'please wait' screens when that didn't used to happen in the preinstallation environment.
In their defense, it is nice to have a loading screen at all. The places where there is now a loading screen, the installer previously hung.
@@SteetsNot really. The previous Setup loads all the screens at once during startup. It's significantly better as a result, as you're not waiting every time you push the next button.
Not to mention having language and keyboard settings in one screen. It makes no sense for these to be separated.
If anything, it should've been the other way around. The original Windows setup should've replaced the update UI.
@@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 It might load MORE on the front end, which is definitely better, but it also definitely does still hang in places. When it spins up then disk management UI, it performs a refresh of the system disk layout, which freezes the UI for a solid 5-10 seconds.
@@Steets Except the initial scan is also done during the "Setup is starting" phase on the old UI. If you don't manually partition the disk and just click Next on the unpartitioned space, like NTDEV did here, it takes care of it significantly faster, both the old and new setup UIs.
And I still can't comprehend the actually longer load times of the new interface.
Personally, I'm glad I use WinNTSetup instead.
well most think there have removed 2015 in setup
It's just the "new" Windows Setup introduced in Windows 8 for doing in-place upgrades, except that now you can finally run it through WinPE to make a clean install.
Wow. Microsoft took 12 YEARS to realize that having two Windows Setup apps isn't a good idea...
have you just forgot that microsoft is based in India, and you know how impressive and gorgeous indians code for $5/hr
@@ohno1052Microsoft is us
@@ohno1052 No their main headquarter is in the US
@@ThatRandomToastno they are small startup company with 5 employees and that's why everything takes them so long
LOL. i'm indian but not poor.@@ohno1052
The change is so minimal i don't see the point, still using windows 7 era areo and 10 design elements.
Anaconda looks way, way better.
windows 8 design elements* also what is the reply above me saying . . . ?
Why do things here need to "get ready" when it just has to deploy an image and the old installer could to it without waiting between questions
I’m too used to the old Windows Installer, it really feels weird
Thankfully you can still launch the legacy experience, 0:36
This installer is so ugly that it makes debian, anaconda and yast installers look prettier in comparison.
A good installer makes the user sure about what they are doing. If MS wants to take notes on how to design a good yet functional installer, they could take notes from Ubuntu, who also had an ugly looking installer a few months ago but fixed that because they actually want people to be comfortable while installing.
rectify 2.5 setup is still FAR better
and I took its theme, put it here in 26040 and ez windows 11 ui
Honestly it's about time they did this
Yeah. The vista - builds prior to this version looked kinda boring.
Re packaged shit 🤨
Microsoft can’t forget basic theme😂
This new interface looks ugly.
Baaah. I definitely prefer Mac OS Sonoma.
they just run setup.exe from iso root lmao
Update + Installer = New Windows 11 setup
I don't like how they use the spinning circles.
A progress bar is better since it can give people a sense of how much work has been done.
You can actually see the blue bar fills up the grey bar gradually.
I agree
Could've done it on Windows 10 instead (or Windows 8, too!) This is literally W10 UI setup design with icon changed and a bit of aero basic theme (which they should change it to W11 style)
Pls part 2 "upgrating" Windows 8.1 to Windows 7
Nah, now I will definitely use manual installation. It is just a copy of the Media Creation Tool UI.
This is what we needed a worse UI with no personality and more loading screens thanks Microsoft.
And that Windows 8 UI was in some way "good"?
Because, Setup Experience Color haven't Changed since in Windows 8, from Purple into White (Setup) and Black (Background).
So much reused, probably legacy code. Man, Windows must be a pita to develop.
everything new is well forgotten old)
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What is “the legacy experience”?
Just the old setup UI we know (and loved?)
@@Kiki79250CoC does it include a purple background instead of a black?
@@ytcat497 I noticed that it depends on the device you're running the Setup on. Sometimes the background is black, sometimes it is purple
i wish it would have been fully metro style or at least looks like the Win11's OOBE
Fuck metro bullshit, w11 oobe is cool tho
Metro is outdated
Unfunny joke of the day
NTDEV testing something in NTCanary
Wow! It cost several years of work for a multi-billion dollar corporation:)
No big UI change happens overnight.
Laughs in mac
After nearly 15 years, they decided to change the Windows Setup.
I'm happy to see the change. 😀
Except that this is not new.
It's just the setupprep.exe introduced with Windows 8, but now you can finally do clean installs with it.
Technically, after 17 years and about 9 months (when the Windows Vista Beta installer changed again)
it's more than 17 years.
Hey editor can I ask? When I was putting my real key to activate tiny11 but somehow it activate itself it’s activated when I was going to press activate. Make me shocked and I don’t mind to change the key but I wanna know how is this possible?
Setup might have been the same since Vista but really IMO I don't see an issue with it - it's the installation process to install Windows. It's not like the average user is going to be running setup every day, if ever, plus it was simple and straight forward enough to get the job done just as it was.
part 2 of upgrading windows 8.1 to windows 7? also try windows 10 1803 to windows 8.1?
Does the legacy experience bring the old setup? Also, can the system requirements be bypassed in the same way (regedit, HLKM, system, setup, labconfig?)
Yes. you can use legacy experience by selecting "Launch the legacy experience" and click Next. You can also bypass requirements in this new setup in the same way.
yes i made video on that.@@HafizulWanandaPutra
Now it has the same UI as if you were upgrading Windows.
ngl the new setup is really slow than the old one
It’s just the one in Windows modern Windows 10 or Windows 11 where if you run the installer from Windows.
I made it less messy, now it’s: Yeah, you can try it for yourself using a Windows 10 or 11 setup file from the OS.
try make tiny 10 1509/1609 NTDEV
Okaaay, in winpe setup still win 7 style windows... Will you be able to return the same ones to a full OS without third-party software?
they just need to add DWM. also change everything to look like WINUI buttons.
can you allow roblox pls it is not a bloatware
This is to weird, please make the old setup with the new Windows 11 look, and not this teriblle mess, the old one had a background and a window style and the new one is black and the Windows 7 Basic Theme, no, i will be using the old Rectify11 PE becouse that one handles the one better, but the file copying files screen is better, but the old setup screen had more personality and wasn't a lame update screen
They should change "Installing Windows 11" screen to Windows 10 RTM Upgrade like. That was cool. But setup still looks old ngl.
Why does it have a black background on the setup? The puple one is better
This still looks very archaic like it's using a janky old windows PE environment. I guess that is what the setup is it's windows PE. I was hoping we'd at least get some modern UI elements that don't look like vista.
The new setup is trash. I prefer the old one. Good thing that they added the option to launch legacy experience
Finally, but is better if the window changes style to something like W10 or W8
I kinda liked the fact that they kept the windows setup the same since windows vista, i gave a feeling of connection between all the OS. I will miss it
hey NTDEV try to make a 32bit version of tiny11
As of today, no 32-bit build of Windows 11 has been leaked.
so even the NVMe isn't safe from
windows "please wait" long moment!
Thank you for making tiny11 I can't afford a new computer but I wanted to upgrade to windows 11 :)
okay but linux is also good.
@@mrfoxesite4482 I use a ton of programs that are not available on linux
I think, despite Microsoft being Microsoft, they will still change it a little, because now there are literally buttons that do nothing "support" "legal" and out-of-place text (e.g. "save your files before you begin" on latest pre-setup screen).
It takes from upgrade setup implemented to PE
link?
can you guys provide install video to tiny11
reminds me of the Longhorn 4008 setup
me when i have to rewrite code from 2006:
Still not upgrading. Not worth it
Holy crap... at this point I though it's never gonna happen.
It was like that one Windows 3.0 dialog somewhere in msc, just something you know was there for years, and will be there for decades to come... xd
Did you mean the font copy dialog from Windows 3.1?
where is the change?
Can we see this again but using Legacy option?
It will just launch the old installer
the problem is that there is No ARM64 support. I have a mac and i would really try it but i cant.
there is since like 2017. but you can't run it on apple silicon as bootcamp is dead.
@@mrfoxesite4482 this BULID does not have ARM
@@appleiphoneuser1oh sorry but you could have mentioned that. haha.
hey, i tried to make my own tiny11 as you guided in your blog, now i got 2 question. 1. in your step by step there's some app without your recommendation to delete it or keep it, is that apps new ??. 2. i did like u said in your blog, and i still get 4.8gb, meanwhile your tiny11 2311 is only 3.7gb, does tiny11 2311 is the most efficient win 11 ? or can i make the most efficient one ? or maybe i can ask you to build it for me ?. thanks @NTDEV
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The new one is way tosimplified
Like Windows 11 lol
no way microsoft touched this setup for the first time since 2012
*2006
Also they literally just stuck the setupprep ui from win8 into WinPE.
Edit: I kinda forgot that they changed it slightly up until 2021, but it was still last majorly updated for a released version of windows in 2006, so my point still stands.
@@AccSwtch50The UI was "updated" in ~Windows 8. The logo was changed in 2021.
@@hmwndp Did you read the part where I said slightly? That being said, thanks for listing the changes, I will add one more of those minor changes on Windows Setup though.
In Windows 7, the branding and the setup background changed as well as some changes in the UI.
This is by no means a complete list, but they're all minor anyways.
@@AccSwtch50 Another change is the animated progress bar (in the progress after clicking "Install now"), which was first seen in Windows 10 version 1703.
What are repair options?
Command line tools, UEFI Firmware settings, startup repair etc.
@@ShippoHsu sad... they could do rebuild boot partitions, re/create recovery partitions.... well command line...
@@tubego5368 those are all included (bcdedit, bootrec)
That setup was used a lot when updating WIndows 10 releases, e.g. 1709 to 1803.
Or really updating any windows releases since Windows 8.