@@Dylan-nb3yy if you have a constant source of major brutality yes. just remember, traditional spell power potions only give major sorcery. but generally yes, weapon dmg makes more sense.
I think one can't say it often enough, but the effort that's put in those videos is just insane, and I hope that every single one clicking on this knows and appreciates that. Great content as always, and a huge thank you for mentioning me, it's highly appreciated
I don’t usually comment - but had to for this. This is the best guide I’ve ever watched. I have mained a DK for 2 years and you’ve taught me things I never knew. Can’t wait to put it into practice! Thank you
In your parses, one of your dpa had a parse of 121,104 dps. How did you sustain the magika? Its supposed to be a stam dk, as said in the list, but i have a hard time sustaining magica, espicially since the spammable ability uses magica, how did you do it?
My 1st toon was a Dragonknight too and forever i been trying to make a good dps with him i think this video may be what i needed to start my stamdk on the right foot thank you for another epic informative guide
Thank you so much, your incredibly hard work has really blown me away again. This build looks super fun and I was just about to make a Dragonknight. I've decided to calculate the costs of all skills to figure out **the best race for your build.** In parenthesis I'll post the skill costs per 30 seconds if they are constantly renewed when they expire. Bar 1: - Burning Talons is extremely strong but costs Magicka and has a 4 second timer, so as you say, it's very hard to keep using it since it's so resource-heavy (I didn't do the math for this) - Engulfing Flames 3299 Magicka 14s (7069 Magicka/30s) - Venomous Claw 2045 Stamina 14s (4382 Stamina/30s) - Molten Whip 2157 Magicka SPAMMABLE (25884 Magicka/30s if we assume 12 casts, since we weave it with all other skills) - Flames of Oblivion 2030 Magicka 15s (4060 Magicka/30s) - Bar 1 is static, without flex, so its total cost is 37013 Magicka/30s, and 4382 Stamina/30s. NOT COUNTING BURNING TALONS, which is also Magicka. Bar 2: - Barbed Trap 2235 Stamina 15s (4470 Stamina/30s) - Stampede 3717 Stamina 15s (7434 Stamina/30s), or Unstable Wall of Fire 3553 Magicka 10s (10659 Magicka/30s) - Mystic Orb 3553 Magicka 10s (10659 Magicka/30s) or Degeneration 1944 Magicka 12s (4860 Magicka/30s) - Eruption 355 Magicka per second, 18s duration but recastable after 10-11 seconds when it has procced, so for 11 seconds that's 3905 Magicka (10650 Magicka/30s) - Scalding Rune 2592 Magicka 18s (4320 Magicka/30s) To sum it up, on a 30 second rotation basis, counting everything EXCEPT Burning Talons (which ALSO costs Magicka): Again, the Magicka numbers below will in reality be EVEN HIGHER since we are casting Burning Talons too. - If Stampede + Mystic Orb: - Magicka: 62642 - Stamina: 16286 - If Stampede + Degeneration: - Magicka: 56843 - Stamina: 16286 - If Unstable Wall of Fire + Mystic Orb: - Magicka: 73301 - Stamina: 8852 - If Unstable Wall of Fire + Degeneration: - Magicka: 67502 - Stamina: 8852 Now look at what happens if you switch to a Breton, for the bonuses: +2000 Max Magicka -7% Magicka Ability Cost +130 Magicka Recovery +2310 Spell Resistance (raids/pvp!) +2310 Extra spell resistance if Burning, Chilled or Concussed (raids/pvp!) And stack Magicka as your main stat, since that's what almost all the good skills use and therefore helps with your resource pool/sustain. The -7% numbers for a Breton become as follows instead: - If Stampede + Mystic Orb: - Magicka: 62642 (58257 for Bretons, saving 4385) - Stamina: 16286 - If Stampede + Degeneration: - Magicka: 56843 (52864 for Bretons, saving 3979) - Stamina: 16286 - If Unstable Wall of Fire + Mystic Orb: - Magicka: 73301 (68170 for Bretons, saving 5131) - Stamina: 8852 - If Unstable Wall of Fire + Degeneration: - Magicka: 67502 (62777 for Bretons, saving 4725) - Stamina: 8852 That's STILL not counting the extra Magicka cost from Burning Talons, since I don't know how often the build casts that. But even without that skill, we see the full picture very clearly! Over a 30 second period, Breton gets up to 5131 Magicka discount (if you cast the best spells, Wall of Fire + Mystic Orb), and even more when you count the Burning Talons casts. Plus they regain 130 Magicka every 2 seconds in combat, from their permanent "130 Magicka Recovery" bonus. Meaning that they get 15 ticks of Recovery in 30 seconds of combat, which therefore regains 1950 Magicka, which we can add to the total discount. Breton's total discount is therefore 5131 + 1950 = 7081 Magicka saved/returned every 30 seconds. Expressed as "Magicka Regen", that's 7081 / 15 (fifteen two-second regen ticks in combat), meaning the equivalent of 472 Magicka Regen on the character stat sheet. Compare that to Dark Elf: ZERO REGEN. What can you do with that extra 7081 Magicka per 30s (14162 Magicka per minute)? You can choose to eat more "Max Magicka" food instead of "Max Magicka + Regen" food to get an even higher Max Magicka value, or you can choose to eat the same "Magicka + Regen" food as the Dark Elf but get a ton more overall regen. You can then cast/spam lots more Magicka spells, to do a lot more damage! And since this build and its main spammable are almost all Magicka, and the best flex spots are all the "most expensive Magicka option", that's a significant advantage. Sure, Dark Elf has a +258 Weapon/Spell Damage, but they only have 1910 Magicka/Stamina instead of 2000 Magicka, and they have no regen at all, so when they're out of resources and can't cast or are forced to downgrade to less Magicka-intensive skills, then they're gonna do worse DPS than a Breton. The Breton will be able to cast the harder-hitting spells and will be able to cast them more! Furthermore, Breton is the best choice in the game for healers due to that huge Magicka discount on all spells, if someone wants to be a healer too. The huge Spell Resistance (2310, or 4620 resistances with status effects) also makes Bretons very good in PvP and as PvE tanks, and there are plenty of tank skills (such as taunts and spellshields) that cost Magicka and will take advantage of the cost reductions/regen there. Overall, this means that Breton is the best choice in the game for your DK build. Of course things change over time when ZOS rebalances everything, but as long as they keep the overall "Identity" of Bretons and the overall balance of Spells vs Stamina for Dragonknight remains Magicka-favored, then Breton will remain the best for a long time. Anyway, thank you so much again for an absolutely brilliant theorycrafting build. I can see how much work you put into your builds and I really hope that you don't burn yourself out. Take care. You are awesome! :)
I just wanna say as a console user, this is some BEAUTIFUL animation canceling like I can't even tell when you did a light attack. I'm on a used ps4 pro and there is a significant input delay that's so bad sometimes my inputs don't read (like when I'm trying to switch bars of all times). I won't even do group content again until I get a ps5. I can only hope for this then 🥺
I've been really wondering about the new stuff with Stagger and a StamDK. I used to run a StamDK several patches ago, so I'm really looking forward to trying this after seeing this video. Thanks for all your work and these absolutely fantastic videos!!
Im using the first stagger rotation, best thing ever, i can do ton damage even without a high CP(In normal and vet Dgs i do 60% of the party damage). I dont think that people appreciate your work enough. Im pretty tired of only have magika(staff) with i hate how the best option and u cant use anything else, and you show us how strong stamina is now even more with the hybridization with only give us more options. Thank You!!!!
Thank you for this. I just came back to the game and was worried my magdk wasn’t going to cut it anymore but it turns out my mediocre ass can still use Sorrow + Suns and do around 60k to the trial dummy with the same rotation from your last video.
I want to say thank you so much for the work you put in. Your guides have helped me so much with understanding the game a LOT better when trying to min max. This game it first is daunting because of the overwhelming amount of choices available which I now actually love because of the replayability offered by the games complexity. Your guides have helped me become a better player and better at helping new players as well so on behalf of those players too I say thank you so much!!
No, I didn't test very much with Bahsei. Yes, it can be better than Relequen w/ good magicka management. To be honest, I just didn't feel like messing with it lol --Which sums up my feelings about Bahsei, especially in actual content as opposed to dummy beating.
thank you for talking about other sets that aren't the meta, but are still good situationally. I typically only do pug dungeons as a warden healer; I've been centralizing my gameplay around the master ice staff and frost reach, being a "brittle support" while providing the buffs and heals that my team needs. I've been using spc on the body, master ice staff front bar, and master architect staff back bar. I used to use pearls of ehlnofey because it used to proc on lotus blossom light attacks but they nerfed that. My whole playstyle is to keep dpsing while healing my team. It was great because it let me proc master architect more often too. I tend to use very few gcds on healing skills so I am looking for an alternative to that mythic. Do you have any ideas of a mythic or a monster set that would suit my DPS/healer playstyle for dungeons?
Dude this is exactly the type of video I've been needing!!!! I have a chic Nord Dragonknight and a dude Breton one. No idea where I wanted to go with them. Either one an all Stam or the other all magicka. But I always love having a bit of both. So I've just been piecing my own stuf tgether for now, not really finishing either build. I have no clue about rotation at all. I just pick the skills I like and work with it. This helps sooo much
@@talorb633 cuz i like having the different races for different abilities and skills. I've got a ton of characters anyway for writs to make gold with but I do play on all of them here and there too. Never know what situation is gonna come up so I'll be prepared for whatever it is. Since I don't use the outfit or armory station I just have the backup characters. Just makes sense for me.
I just wanted to say a big thank you skinny cheeks. As a returning player your videos are just such a goldmine and really help getting back into understanding builds. The effort you put into these is just absolutely insane :D I was wondering if you could maybe in the future add some good trash kill Builds / support dd builds onto your website.
The new ability to stack the “wrong” stat and then just boost your main casting stat’s recovery to make builds is super fun and interesting. Ive got a build I did this on before the hybrid changes that was magic damaging heavy attacking templar, but I am updating it right now and im almost done with the video. No more heavy attacks on that build.
Great video as always Skinny. Does the hybridization make these videos easier to make, as you can combine both stamina and magicka into one video? Or is it more overwhelming having to jam pack it all in a single comprehensive video?
eh a bit of both. there are parts that are easier and other parts that take more time. I'd say overall probably a win as this vid took about 90 hours ish. and I don't think I could have previously done both a stam dk vid and a mag dk vid at 45 hours each
Should replace degeneration with noxious breath, you'll deal more damage with major breach applied, and you can get major savagery from essence of weapon power pots, which you should be popping on cooldown anyway....
@@AFlockOfMorons also using heroism pots so won’t have the major brutality/sorcery. In a run with other people ideally igneous will be going though and you can drop degen for something else.
Yo, Skinny! Just acquired the gear you recommended for setup 1. Do you think this build will still be viable after the upcoming patch? I feel like DKs are about to get nerfed into dust from it.
Hey, I kinda need help. Hmm, I wonder if 5 piece of Essence of Thief full gold would be great on my Stamdk. With a golden Slimecraw's Mask and shoulders. Ring I ain't sure for now. At the moment I'm wearing these. Head - Helmet of Sul-Xan Torment Shoulder - Plague Slinger Arm Cops Chest - Jack of Sul-Xan Torment Hands- Bracers of Sul-Xan Torment Waist - Plague Slinger Belt Legs - Guards of Sul-Xan Torment Feet - Plague Slinger Boots Neck - Neckblace of Agility Ring - Ring of Agility, Ring of Sul-Xan Torment Dagger of Agility Axe of Agility Greatsword of agility This is not a gold set, mix of blues and purple I think. I want some better gear. So I wonder if this might be a good options. I would like to have your advice on it. Thanks.
I had great effect from using Empowering Chain (on front bar) to keep Empower buff on myself. Together with mages guild passive I got 80%+ empower uptime without too much trouble. I used it with Undaunted Unweaver and vMA inferno stuff to maximize bonus from Empower. Sustain is much harder though. Also having charge ability on front bar helps in fights.
LOVING THIS VIDEO!!! I’m a Dk main and I love seeing so much love going out to them. Such a fun class! I am curious though… In the shrouded dagger parse I notice you use whip as your main spammable until 75% and then you switch to SD. I’m guessing whip must outperform SD until 75% and then SD takes over and does more damage from there?
thank you! and pretty much yep! looking back I still would have cast my stacked whips (I did not in the clip) but the stacked ones are stronger than shrouded until way longer into the fight. probably like 25% or so. So essentially use up the stacked whip before it runs out and then get back to shrouded spam
I think i will really enjoy a Stagger DK, since i play this with mybStam DK and like it. Dear oh dear such a weird Patch, i am so confused 🤭 Great Video again!!! Thxxx
What's the rotation at 1:13:25? Have all of the gear for it but I don't see it posted on the written guide. Is it just stone giant replacing molten whip?
You know I'm going to do the math on this very soon, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a DPS loss for wearing medium armor instead of light armor. Sure it is harder to get to the penetration cap but you have more base damage so I think they balance pretty close in the middle. That's always been the case with stamina DPS even before all the hybridization, they have always had more flat but less penetration. The truly silly thing about it is when you do use light armor to hit that penetration cap you are literally trading away spell damage when compared to medium armor x d so I think personally wearing seven medium armor and using a couple of maces instead of daggers can be a DPS gain depending on the rest of your stats.
They don't. The 2% extra dmg from medium pieces is like 0.6-0.8% in truth. Meanwhile 1000 pen is a straight 2% dmg increase. Also it isnt spell dmg just dmg. So im not sure it buffs mag skill dmg. But it probably does. Theres a reason you see people saying the trial sets that give 5% extra dmg to dung enemies actually only give around 3%. This ignoring 1% crit > 2% crit dmg. 1% dmg from fighters guild only increased my 1770 dmg rapid strike hit by 15 (1785) for example. Hopefully skinny explains this one day.
@@UncleDaniel the increase is to your weapon and spell damage number not Damage Done. And you are right there is a diminishing return but there is also a diminishing return with penetration if you understand how the math works. If you have no penetration at all and gain 1000 it is a huge percentage increase relative to if you have 17,000 penetration and gain another thousand. The way the Damage Done formula works everything is diminishing return When you stack it too high. To be fair though it doesn't logically make a lot of sense unless you actually crunch the numbers
Great video and info but I didn't see the link to the written guide. Did I overlook it or is it not up yet? Just wondering so I can have a reference. Thanks and I've used your builds for necro, sorc and my dk. Good stuff
Hey Skinny, loved this guide. I was wondering if you thought there was some differences between these gear and skill setups when it comes to trials vs 4-man content? Would you say it’s fine to use the same set up for both types of content, or switch things? If so, what would have to be switched between those? Thanks
I would say it depends less on dungeon vs trial and more about the specific encounter you are engaging in. I always end up tweaking stuff as I go for different fights but that’s just kinda something that comes with time and practice.
Great video!! Wouldn't you run of mana really quickly spamming whip as well as casting all of those other mana abilities (if your main stat is stamina)?
I know that in the video you metion the different foods and potion options but in the 123k parse and for the 125k parse what food and potions did you use in particular. I apologize in advance if missed the specifics
Great video, helped with my parse numbers. Any chance you can hook it up with that style chest and shoulder you’re rocking 2 mins? Trying to find the name. Thanks!
If you are using carve, should you hit the ability 3x in a row immediately on the dummy so that you gain the 3 stacks immediately? Or are you supposed to not gain 3 stacks until the ability is actually ready to refresh twice over during the parse?
About the champion points… what about the points in the other two trees? Which should we focus on getting? I got a dk and recently got to cp and I’m trying to following this build, but I don’t know where to use the rest of my points (as of writing I’m cp 314). I ended up putting 10 breakfall, 15 wanderer, 10 steadfast enchantment, 30/30 into rationer and 40 steeds blessing for the craft one. And for finesse 50/50 boundless vitality, 15 tumbling, 10 mystic tenacity and 20/20 hero’s vigor.
The other ones are very situational and depending on your needs. Since they don’t affect dmg output I generally leave those for people to set up to their own preferences
Hey skinny, I was wondering for the front bar if deadly is actually any good seeing how the DKs use so many dots. Wasnt sure how that would compare to PoN.
Hi Skinny! If I were to run Kinras inferno frontbar, what would the rotation / skill setup be like using spell power pots? How'd the dps be like as well?
the video is great, just a query, it's not critical or anything like that, in the part where you explain the potions I think, eye maybe it's right and I'm wrong, but I think it's wrong, magic potion was put in the of stamina and in the stamina she turned magic
listening through what I was talking about in that section, it was what to do if you want potions to restore your off resource but aren't getting your buffs from skills already. it is talking about running the opposite glyph and using the opposite potions. otherwise yes those would be the opposite.
@@skinnycheeks ooohhh the other morphs do , I see ... and ur not using Razor Caltrops because the timer is lower and you cant squeeze it in ur rotation?
@@skinnycheeks thanks I've found it. Its lava foot if anyone is wondering. I asked because it was very difficult for me to sustain thank you for the guide anyway.
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so does it make sense now for a DK to just always run Weapon Damage glyphs no matter what?
@@Dylan-nb3yy if you have a constant source of major brutality yes. just remember, traditional spell power potions only give major sorcery. but generally yes, weapon dmg makes more sense.
Hit the highest I ever got with this videos help. 110k. I'm getting invited to runs all over the place now lol
Is there an update on this build?
@@rjhammer4385 top of the description has a link to the updated vid or you can always check the website at www.skinnycheeks.gg/dragonknight
I cannot even imagine the time and energy put into these vids, thanks for the resources and pls dont burnout take care :)
I'm pretty tired. This one and the necro one took a while. I think NB and Templar will be a little less dense.
@@skinnycheeks you better not burn out
I think one can't say it often enough, but the effort that's put in those videos is just insane, and I hope that every single one clicking on this knows and appreciates that.
Great content as always, and a huge thank you for mentioning me, it's highly appreciated
thanks man! appreciate that. and no prob!
Thanks a lot for this! As a DK main, I’ve been stumped on some stuff. Appreciate the informative video.
I don’t usually comment - but had to for this. This is the best guide I’ve ever watched. I have mained a DK for 2 years and you’ve taught me things I never knew.
Can’t wait to put it into practice! Thank you
Thanks that means a lot!
This is such an amazing presentation - so helpful on so many levels. Thank you so very much. Can't wait to view the Necro version!
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thanks!
Really informative video. Thank you so much. Eagerly awaiting for the Templar version to arrive!
Thanks for all of your hard work put into these videos and helping the community skinny cheeks. We appreciate it.
Dk was also my first and i always come back. You are always my go to for dk build info 🤩
In your parses, one of your dpa had a parse of 121,104 dps. How did you sustain the magika? Its supposed to be a stam dk, as said in the list, but i have a hard time sustaining magica, espicially since the spammable ability uses magica, how did you do it?
My 1st toon was a Dragonknight too and forever i been trying to make a good dps with him i think this video may be what i needed to start my stamdk on the right foot thank you for another epic informative guide
thanks! and good luck!
You make the best guides. This is like the manual we needed that didn't come with the game. Amazing work. Thanks a lot!
Thank you so much, your incredibly hard work has really blown me away again. This build looks super fun and I was just about to make a Dragonknight.
I've decided to calculate the costs of all skills to figure out **the best race for your build.**
In parenthesis I'll post the skill costs per 30 seconds if they are constantly renewed when they expire.
Bar 1:
- Burning Talons is extremely strong but costs Magicka and has a 4 second timer, so as you say, it's very hard to keep using it since it's so resource-heavy (I didn't do the math for this)
- Engulfing Flames 3299 Magicka 14s (7069 Magicka/30s)
- Venomous Claw 2045 Stamina 14s (4382 Stamina/30s)
- Molten Whip 2157 Magicka SPAMMABLE (25884 Magicka/30s if we assume 12 casts, since we weave it with all other skills)
- Flames of Oblivion 2030 Magicka 15s (4060 Magicka/30s)
- Bar 1 is static, without flex, so its total cost is 37013 Magicka/30s, and 4382 Stamina/30s. NOT COUNTING BURNING TALONS, which is also Magicka.
Bar 2:
- Barbed Trap 2235 Stamina 15s (4470 Stamina/30s)
- Stampede 3717 Stamina 15s (7434 Stamina/30s), or Unstable Wall of Fire 3553 Magicka 10s (10659 Magicka/30s)
- Mystic Orb 3553 Magicka 10s (10659 Magicka/30s) or Degeneration 1944 Magicka 12s (4860 Magicka/30s)
- Eruption 355 Magicka per second, 18s duration but recastable after 10-11 seconds when it has procced, so for 11 seconds that's 3905 Magicka (10650 Magicka/30s)
- Scalding Rune 2592 Magicka 18s (4320 Magicka/30s)
To sum it up, on a 30 second rotation basis, counting everything EXCEPT Burning Talons (which ALSO costs Magicka):
Again, the Magicka numbers below will in reality be EVEN HIGHER since we are casting Burning Talons too.
- If Stampede + Mystic Orb:
- Magicka: 62642
- Stamina: 16286
- If Stampede + Degeneration:
- Magicka: 56843
- Stamina: 16286
- If Unstable Wall of Fire + Mystic Orb:
- Magicka: 73301
- Stamina: 8852
- If Unstable Wall of Fire + Degeneration:
- Magicka: 67502
- Stamina: 8852
Now look at what happens if you switch to a Breton, for the bonuses:
+2000 Max Magicka
-7% Magicka Ability Cost
+130 Magicka Recovery
+2310 Spell Resistance (raids/pvp!)
+2310 Extra spell resistance if Burning, Chilled or Concussed (raids/pvp!)
And stack Magicka as your main stat, since that's what almost all the good skills use and therefore helps with your resource pool/sustain.
The -7% numbers for a Breton become as follows instead:
- If Stampede + Mystic Orb:
- Magicka: 62642 (58257 for Bretons, saving 4385)
- Stamina: 16286
- If Stampede + Degeneration:
- Magicka: 56843 (52864 for Bretons, saving 3979)
- Stamina: 16286
- If Unstable Wall of Fire + Mystic Orb:
- Magicka: 73301 (68170 for Bretons, saving 5131)
- Stamina: 8852
- If Unstable Wall of Fire + Degeneration:
- Magicka: 67502 (62777 for Bretons, saving 4725)
- Stamina: 8852
That's STILL not counting the extra Magicka cost from Burning Talons, since I don't know how often the build casts that. But even without that skill, we see the full picture very clearly!
Over a 30 second period, Breton gets up to 5131 Magicka discount (if you cast the best spells, Wall of Fire + Mystic Orb), and even more when you count the Burning Talons casts. Plus they regain 130 Magicka every 2 seconds in combat, from their permanent "130 Magicka Recovery" bonus. Meaning that they get 15 ticks of Recovery in 30 seconds of combat, which therefore regains 1950 Magicka, which we can add to the total discount.
Breton's total discount is therefore 5131 + 1950 = 7081 Magicka saved/returned every 30 seconds. Expressed as "Magicka Regen", that's 7081 / 15 (fifteen two-second regen ticks in combat), meaning the equivalent of 472 Magicka Regen on the character stat sheet.
Compare that to Dark Elf: ZERO REGEN.
What can you do with that extra 7081 Magicka per 30s (14162 Magicka per minute)? You can choose to eat more "Max Magicka" food instead of "Max Magicka + Regen" food to get an even higher Max Magicka value, or you can choose to eat the same "Magicka + Regen" food as the Dark Elf but get a ton more overall regen. You can then cast/spam lots more Magicka spells, to do a lot more damage! And since this build and its main spammable are almost all Magicka, and the best flex spots are all the "most expensive Magicka option", that's a significant advantage.
Sure, Dark Elf has a +258 Weapon/Spell Damage, but they only have 1910 Magicka/Stamina instead of 2000 Magicka, and they have no regen at all, so when they're out of resources and can't cast or are forced to downgrade to less Magicka-intensive skills, then they're gonna do worse DPS than a Breton. The Breton will be able to cast the harder-hitting spells and will be able to cast them more!
Furthermore, Breton is the best choice in the game for healers due to that huge Magicka discount on all spells, if someone wants to be a healer too.
The huge Spell Resistance (2310, or 4620 resistances with status effects) also makes Bretons very good in PvP and as PvE tanks, and there are plenty of tank skills (such as taunts and spellshields) that cost Magicka and will take advantage of the cost reductions/regen there.
Overall, this means that Breton is the best choice in the game for your DK build. Of course things change over time when ZOS rebalances everything, but as long as they keep the overall "Identity" of Bretons and the overall balance of Spells vs Stamina for Dragonknight remains Magicka-favored, then Breton will remain the best for a long time.
Anyway, thank you so much again for an absolutely brilliant theorycrafting build. I can see how much work you put into your builds and I really hope that you don't burn yourself out. Take care. You are awesome! :)
I just wanna say as a console user, this is some BEAUTIFUL animation canceling like I can't even tell when you did a light attack. I'm on a used ps4 pro and there is a significant input delay that's so bad sometimes my inputs don't read (like when I'm trying to switch bars of all times). I won't even do group content again until I get a ps5. I can only hope for this then 🥺
I've been really wondering about the new stuff with Stagger and a StamDK. I used to run a StamDK several patches ago, so I'm really looking forward to trying this after seeing this video. Thanks for all your work and these absolutely fantastic videos!!
Thank you!
Thx for all the info, I appreciate the effort put into this. My main is also a magDK currently jailed in zen's :P
thanks! and same lol
Im using the first stagger rotation, best thing ever, i can do ton damage even without a high CP(In normal and vet Dgs i do 60% of the party damage). I dont think that people appreciate your work enough. Im pretty tired of only have magika(staff) with i hate how the best option and u cant use anything else, and you show us how strong stamina is now even more with the hybridization with only give us more options. Thank You!!!!
The amount of effort in this video is astounding. Please keep up the good work. Thanks for such great content! 👍
Thank you for this. I just came back to the game and was worried my magdk wasn’t going to cut it anymore but it turns out my mediocre ass can still use Sorrow + Suns and do around 60k to the trial dummy with the same rotation from your last video.
Thanks for the mention!
I want to say thank you so much for the work you put in. Your guides have helped me so much with understanding the game a LOT better when trying to min max. This game it first is daunting because of the overwhelming amount of choices available which I now actually love because of the replayability offered by the games complexity. Your guides have helped me become a better player and better at helping new players as well so on behalf of those players too I say thank you so much!!
Thank you! I’m glad they have been helpful for ya!
Be careful about min/max metas, can burn you out quickly.
Always appreciate the way you lay out your builds!
Thanks!
No, I didn't test very much with Bahsei. Yes, it can be better than Relequen w/ good magicka management. To be honest, I just didn't feel like messing with it lol
--Which sums up my feelings about Bahsei, especially in actual content as opposed to dummy beating.
Same. I'm getting tired of the bahsei mini-game.
thank you for talking about other sets that aren't the meta, but are still good situationally.
I typically only do pug dungeons as a warden healer; I've been centralizing my gameplay around the master ice staff and frost reach, being a "brittle support" while providing the buffs and heals that my team needs. I've been using spc on the body, master ice staff front bar, and master architect staff back bar. I used to use pearls of ehlnofey because it used to proc on lotus blossom light attacks but they nerfed that. My whole playstyle is to keep dpsing while healing my team. It was great because it let me proc master architect more often too. I tend to use very few gcds on healing skills so I am looking for an alternative to that mythic. Do you have any ideas of a mythic or a monster set that would suit my DPS/healer playstyle for dungeons?
Really loving your builds for this patch! Will you be making a guide for Templar?
thanks. and probably. going on vacation next week so we'll see what all i can get done before the high isle pts pops up
Dude this is exactly the type of video I've been needing!!!! I have a chic Nord Dragonknight and a dude Breton one. No idea where I wanted to go with them. Either one an all Stam or the other all magicka. But I always love having a bit of both. So I've just been piecing my own stuf tgether for now, not really finishing either build. I have no clue about rotation at all. I just pick the skills I like and work with it. This helps sooo much
Why make 2 of the same build and not just level one and have a quick setup for stamina and a quick step up or whatever it’s called for mag?
@@talorb633 cuz i like having the different races for different abilities and skills. I've got a ton of characters anyway for writs to make gold with but I do play on all of them here and there too. Never know what situation is gonna come up so I'll be prepared for whatever it is. Since I don't use the outfit or armory station I just have the backup characters. Just makes sense for me.
@@amandahamm8987 just seemed easier but we all play differently
Fantastic video that has helped my do heaps, big thank you!
I just wanted to say a big thank you skinny cheeks. As a returning player your videos are just such a goldmine and really help getting back into understanding builds.
The effort you put into these is just absolutely insane :D
I was wondering if you could maybe in the future add some good trash kill Builds / support dd builds onto your website.
Thanks! And yep I’m going too. I know the vid is long but I mentioned that I would be doing that.
@@skinnycheeks Awesome. Must have missed it between all those infos :D
DUDE YOU NEED WAY MORE SUBS. I almost want you to make an elden ring video to ge more people here holy shit these are good.
how can u See The Cooldown from drank?
You are amazing, pure gem of a content creator for eso community!
Ah thanks 😊
You put a lot of work into these. Thanks.
Wowzers so helpful! Thank you Skinny!
Lets go yay! thank you!
So much effort and so humble.
Great video.
I personally still love the good old spellweave silks of the sun and illambris setup
thanks! and yah that works well still!
The new ability to stack the “wrong” stat and then just boost your main casting stat’s recovery to make builds is super fun and interesting. Ive got a build I did this on before the hybrid changes that was magic damaging heavy attacking templar, but I am updating it right now and im almost done with the video. No more heavy attacks on that build.
yeah it is pretty cool! i'm having fun being able to essentially play my DK in all different kinds of setups without respeccing.
Amazing content SC! Keep up the GR8 work for the ESO community, eh.
thank you!
Love the video man it is a Hugh help when making new builds 🤩
Can you do one on stam- and magblades next?
thank you. we'll see.
Thank you SO much for making this!
That 50k crowns would come in handy for my crafting tool main
Another very informative video. Great work!
thanks!
Great video as always Skinny. Does the hybridization make these videos easier to make, as you can combine both stamina and magicka into one video? Or is it more overwhelming having to jam pack it all in a single comprehensive video?
eh a bit of both. there are parts that are easier and other parts that take more time. I'd say overall probably a win as this vid took about 90 hours ish. and I don't think I could have previously done both a stam dk vid and a mag dk vid at 45 hours each
I’m here for the Underoath remix at the end
Should replace degeneration with noxious breath, you'll deal more damage with major breach applied, and you can get major savagery from essence of weapon power pots, which you should be popping on cooldown anyway....
Annnnnndddddd, I just realized it's a magicka build and not stamina, hahahahah, my bad brother. Peace be with you....
@@AFlockOfMorons also using heroism pots so won’t have the major brutality/sorcery. In a run with other people ideally igneous will be going though and you can drop degen for something else.
Yo, Skinny! Just acquired the gear you recommended for setup 1. Do you think this build will still be viable after the upcoming patch? I feel like DKs are about to get nerfed into dust from it.
awesome vid mate!!
Thanks!
Best Dk pve guide i saw for years 👍
Hey, I kinda need help. Hmm, I wonder if 5 piece of Essence of Thief full gold would be great on my Stamdk. With a golden Slimecraw's Mask and shoulders. Ring I ain't sure for now. At the moment I'm wearing these.
Head - Helmet of Sul-Xan Torment
Shoulder - Plague Slinger Arm Cops
Chest - Jack of Sul-Xan Torment
Hands- Bracers of Sul-Xan Torment
Waist - Plague Slinger Belt
Legs - Guards of Sul-Xan Torment
Feet - Plague Slinger Boots
Neck - Neckblace of Agility
Ring - Ring of Agility, Ring of Sul-Xan Torment
Dagger of Agility
Axe of Agility
Greatsword of agility
This is not a gold set, mix of blues and purple I think. I want some better gear. So I wonder if this might be a good options. I would like to have your advice on it.
Thanks.
Were in the spreadsheet is the build from the beginning of the video Were ur in a trail I can't seem to find it
I had great effect from using Empowering Chain (on front bar) to keep Empower buff on myself. Together with mages guild passive I got 80%+ empower uptime without too much trouble.
I used it with Undaunted Unweaver and vMA inferno stuff to maximize bonus from Empower.
Sustain is much harder though.
Also having charge ability on front bar helps in fights.
Great work thank you 💪
Thanks!
LOVING THIS VIDEO!!! I’m a Dk main and I love seeing so much love going out to them. Such a fun class! I am curious though… In the shrouded dagger parse I notice you use whip as your main spammable until 75% and then you switch to SD. I’m guessing whip must outperform SD until 75% and then SD takes over and does more damage from there?
thank you! and pretty much yep! looking back I still would have cast my stacked whips (I did not in the clip) but the stacked ones are stronger than shrouded until way longer into the fight. probably like 25% or so. So essentially use up the stacked whip before it runs out and then get back to shrouded spam
I think i will really enjoy a Stagger DK, since i play this with mybStam DK and like it. Dear oh dear such a weird Patch, i am so confused 🤭 Great Video again!!! Thxxx
it is pretty fun 🔥 thank you!
I'm having trouble sustaining magicka with this build do you have any tips or tricks for that?
Thank you, just perfect👍👍
1:10:28 What UI addon are you using during those parse segments?
Hey Skinny do you think Deadly strikes Daggers and Jewelry would be good for a DK?
Amazing video! 👍👍
So what's the best set on body that work with kinra daggers and jewelry. Stamina or Magic attributes. Since I don't have trial gear..
What kind of DPS difference do you think maelstrom 2h axe would give instead of greatsword? I don't want to do vMA anymore XD
Great video, thank you for the hard work 👍👍
thank you!
What's the rotation at 1:13:25? Have all of the gear for it but I don't see it posted on the written guide. Is it just stone giant replacing molten whip?
yes, but this is an older guide. the timers have changed for update 35. i have a newer video out
You know I'm going to do the math on this very soon, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a DPS loss for wearing medium armor instead of light armor. Sure it is harder to get to the penetration cap but you have more base damage so I think they balance pretty close in the middle. That's always been the case with stamina DPS even before all the hybridization, they have always had more flat but less penetration. The truly silly thing about it is when you do use light armor to hit that penetration cap you are literally trading away spell damage when compared to medium armor x d so I think personally wearing seven medium armor and using a couple of maces instead of daggers can be a DPS gain depending on the rest of your stats.
They don't.
The 2% extra dmg from medium pieces is like 0.6-0.8% in truth.
Meanwhile 1000 pen is a straight 2% dmg increase.
Also it isnt spell dmg just dmg. So im not sure it buffs mag skill dmg. But it probably does.
Theres a reason you see people saying the trial sets that give 5% extra dmg to dung enemies actually only give around 3%.
This ignoring 1% crit > 2% crit dmg.
1% dmg from fighters guild only increased my 1770 dmg rapid strike hit by 15 (1785) for example.
Hopefully skinny explains this one day.
@@UncleDaniel the increase is to your weapon and spell damage number not Damage Done. And you are right there is a diminishing return but there is also a diminishing return with penetration if you understand how the math works. If you have no penetration at all and gain 1000 it is a huge percentage increase relative to if you have 17,000 penetration and gain another thousand. The way the Damage Done formula works everything is diminishing return When you stack it too high. To be fair though it doesn't logically make a lot of sense unless you actually crunch the numbers
Great video and info but I didn't see the link to the written guide. Did I overlook it or is it not up yet? Just wondering so I can have a reference. Thanks and I've used your builds for necro, sorc and my dk. Good stuff
Thanks! It’s at skinnycheeks.gg
I got the same exact setup to a t but my dots do not hit like that wow. Same rotation 2. Any tips?
Keep it up your vids are very detailed and perhaps the easiest to follow.
Hi is at a dps los if i recast degen when its on the 8th second mark? And eruption on 3 sec ?
Hey Skinny, loved this guide. I was wondering if you thought there was some differences between these gear and skill setups when it comes to trials vs 4-man content? Would you say it’s fine to use the same set up for both types of content, or switch things? If so, what would have to be switched between those? Thanks
I would say it depends less on dungeon vs trial and more about the specific encounter you are engaging in. I always end up tweaking stuff as I go for different fights but that’s just kinda something that comes with time and practice.
Great video, amazing quality and outstanding information, as always! Was wondering what traits and glyphs would you use on dw back bar?
thank you! double infused - flame + poison glyph generally. then you can swap the front bar to the crafted poisons.
@@skinnycheeks thanks for your prompt reply! You are awesome!
What would be a good build for generic Vet dun -- dlc stuff included?
Awesome content, once again!
thanks!!
Potions witch restore magika and also give major brutality doesnt exist right?
Is there any option to use 2hand (carve spamm) with a back bar with blocked elem. ?
Thanks for your 📹.👍🏽👏🏽
Great video!! Wouldn't you run of mana really quickly spamming whip as well as casting all of those other mana abilities (if your main stat is stamina)?
You’d want to either have a 2h backbar or run double charged on the front bar but there are ways to sustain it for sure with stam
Which UI AddOn stacks the skill bars like that?
I made a scorch build and got messaged I was playing wrong cause I wasn’t tanking
I know that in the video you metion the different foods and potion options but in the 123k parse and for the 125k parse what food and potions did you use in particular. I apologize in advance if missed the specifics
if you check the test results section of the video or the test results section linked in the description, it has all the different info for it
Great video, helped with my parse numbers. Any chance you can hook it up with that style chest and shoulder you’re rocking 2 mins? Trying to find the name. Thanks!
Thanks! Chitenous something I believe. I think it was a crate exclusive
I can get between 63-68k and dont know how to improve running 2 fire staves
If you are using carve, should you hit the ability 3x in a row immediately on the dummy so that you gain the 3 stacks immediately? Or are you supposed to not gain 3 stacks until the ability is actually ready to refresh twice over during the parse?
Better to wait as long as you can to refresh. But you can do it that way too, just not as efficient
About the champion points… what about the points in the other two trees? Which should we focus on getting? I got a dk and recently got to cp and I’m trying to following this build, but I don’t know where to use the rest of my points (as of writing I’m cp 314). I ended up putting 10 breakfall, 15 wanderer, 10 steadfast enchantment, 30/30 into rationer and 40 steeds blessing for the craft one. And for finesse 50/50 boundless vitality, 15 tumbling, 10 mystic tenacity and 20/20 hero’s vigor.
The other ones are very situational and depending on your needs. Since they don’t affect dmg output I generally leave those for people to set up to their own preferences
A boy brushes red living in black and white... nice
Hey skinny, I was wondering for the front bar if deadly is actually any good seeing how the DKs use so many dots. Wasnt sure how that would compare to PoN.
Not very good on DK. Too much direct dmg
You really have amazing videos
thanks!
Hi Skinny!
If I were to run Kinras inferno frontbar, what would the rotation / skill setup be like using spell power pots? How'd the dps be like as well?
inferno vs dual wield doesn't change the rotations. probably about 5-7% lower. somewhere in that range.
wait thrassian stranglers actually are good for dungeons?
Amazing work
thanks!
Looking forward to Nightblade
the video is great, just a query, it's not critical or anything like that, in the part where you explain the potions I think, eye maybe it's right and I'm wrong, but I think it's wrong, magic potion was put in the of stamina and in the stamina she turned magic
Thank you. I’m not sure I understand what you mean though.
minute 14
listening through what I was talking about in that section, it was what to do if you want potions to restore your off resource but aren't getting your buffs from skills already. it is talking about running the opposite glyph and using the opposite potions. otherwise yes those would be the opposite.
Hi. Question: isn't tzovgin supposed to be on the body ? It is easy to loose the stack isn't it?
It just requires a crit so just don’t stay on your backbar too long
@@skinnycheeks thx for Quick answer. I'm new to dd
Can I mixe bow with 2 hand?
Or should I focus on 2. Daggers and 2 hand?
you can do any combo of weapons you want.
Is the deadly set also good for StamDK? As the second set beside relequen
it is okay, but generally not one of the top producing sets. if you use rapid strikes then maybe decent.
Is coral riptide a good set to use? Seems a lot like Bahsei for Stamina
Yes very good. If you check the update listed in the description on the website I have it there
Can we get a video with your passives ??
If we get breach from our fire breath , why do you use caltrops in your backbar in mag parses? Aren't there better dots to use instead ?
Fire breath doesn’t give breach and neither does the caltrops morph that I was using
@@skinnycheeks ooohhh the other morphs do , I see ... and ur not using Razor Caltrops because the timer is lower and you cant squeeze it in ur rotation?
@@alonne1655 correct. If you don’t need the breach, anti calvary is better due to the longer timer. Less casts means more time for spammables
@@skinnycheeks awesome, thnx for the guide mate and the helpful tips
How the hell do you get that sustain????
Can you put what outfit/skin you have on? Your character looks awesome 👌
which scene?
@@skinnycheeks Chestpiece at the beginning.
@@carlos130895 I believe that is the chitenous one
Hi what food did you use on the static vatashran parse I must be blind because I cant see it anywhere
it is on the dps results section of the video or you can go to the website and check the dps results section there too
@@skinnycheeks thanks I've found it.
Its lava foot if anyone is wondering. I asked because it was very difficult for me to sustain thank you for the guide anyway.