You go to a rural hospital,you will be told that there are few doctors yet we have Doctors that are not employed. This is not right at all. We are not supposed to be having unemployed doctors, this is a clear failure of the anc government
This is so sad. I was unemployed for 4 months post internship and I’ll be finishing my community service soon and currently working in Limpopo where there’s shift work. There are high chances I’ll be unemployed😢. We need a better party to lead us. DOH you have failed us and you don’t seem to sympathise with us and care for the communities we serve.
By foreigners you mean Africans not white people. As a South African I refuse to be used by these politicians taking money from white people to divide us. We have all the minerals in Africa yet we are the poorest people that's how stupid we are as South Africans busy ngendaba ze Israel and Palestine whilst we killing our neighbors
Nurses do shift work and I'm just wondering if that makes anything better. This seems like the only "solution" I'm hearing from NDoH side. It hasn't been mentioned how there are hospitals that had ghost Drs hired and that money for those posts was chowed. Corruption, more than anything else has led to "oops, no budget". Even the billions that are being mentioned are probably not all going to the currently employed Drs. The conditions in these clinics and hospitals in terms of infrastructure (rurals especially) is another issue on its own. Corruption at every level.
You guys need to learn to stop blaming foreigners for all if tge issues in SA. Instead of questioning the government, you guys are using it to to fuel your hate and xenophobia...in my opinion its not fair.
I don’t understand how our government still choose this guy to answer to our grievances since he obviously has a problem with doctors since long ago. His numbers are wrong and he obviously doesn’t want us or our patient to benefit in making sure their health care is taken care of and we are employed as doctors. The government is failing us yet again. I mean, we worked in the bunduz and we understand the challenges we were faced with in terms of resources, but we still did our best with the little that we had to try and give the best healthcare we could to our rural patients…and now we have to fight just to go back to that life and try to uplift our patients while making sure we are still able to put bread ematafuleni emakhaya ethu
Let's be honest here, we as the youth have failed ourselves. we know how Incompetent the ANC is but we still don't show in numbers to vote. We are more than enough to remove the ANC in power... Let's stop being divided and vote for one party that is Independent. Political parties that listen to their Donors are not interested in Building state capacity. NO party will give you 100% but here's our option EFF, PA , ARISE SA AND ATM .
The 50 Billion Covivi money that they ate, could have sorted this issue. Ministers and the president could have cut their salaries while they fix this issue...This government does not khe at all!!!
That's a great idea If money is not a problem. However since they are unemployed I'd assume that money is a huge challenge. Opening your own practice requires you to have established your clientele so imagine spending +/- half a million (equipment is expensive) on getting the practice up and running only for you to have four to five patients a week for the first couple of months. The practice may only start being profitable after two years. Plus let's also remember that most people these days are struggling to cover their basic expenses, having medical aid now is a luxury for many. My point is, opening a practice requires connections and money.
Let them cancel Resolution 01 of 2004 which talks to rural allowance and use that money to pay unemployed health workers, because the way it is implemented right now is unjust & unfair since other professional categories are not included till today. FYI, that allowance is non-pensionable and it ranges from 8-22% of the notch depending on professional category and ISRDS nodes. Imagine using a resolution that is almost 20 years old in a dynamic world. If they managed to stop the scarce skills allowance,they can also stop this allowance and treat everyone the same,because in a health system everyone is important ,from a porter to a doctor. Moreover, I hope one day there will be an aggressive legal will to challenge these disparities.
Everyone speaks of budget constraints. Yet it was the government that made the ruling to increase medical school intake. Therefore the maths says. If you increase in the intake. You will increase the output. So they wanted more doctors. But didn’t provide financially for it. It’s quite simple. Regarding frozen posts. They stopped using that term. Government didn’t like the term “frozen post” as it made them look bad. So instead of frozen posts. The government removed that post off their books. So yes. There are no frozen posts. (They don’t exist anymore) It’s political jargon to confuse people. And still people on the ground suffer. NHI was going to be their bailout. But NHI has taken longer than expected to implement. Hopefully NHI will employ these unemployed doctors. But they will be unemployed till then.
I feel sorry for the government representative, what do they want him to say.... There is not sufficient budget, we need to grow the economy to get more tax to hire more people. We need a new government that promotes initiatives that grows the economy thereby increasing the tax base, to allow for the hiring of more staff. This is not rocket science people.
I doubt abouth anc is true they love south african at heart I don't think so.so people are going to school to be unemployed by our state.but foreigners are enjoying and benefiting in our country
People must remember that Doctors are in demand all over the world, and that if Doctors are not hired in SA they will look elsewhere and this will only worsen the situation for the country even if they fix their budget issues
You think is easy 😂😂 the whole world professional workers goes to Western world South Africa is second opinion Government need to reduce foreign doctors and put South Africans.
Sebokeng hospital has foreign doctors who are horrible in practice. My brother is a head of Department and i know what im saying. Anc had 30 wasted years,they've messed up everything
This never surprised anymore. My brother died after a surgery performed by south African doctors that went wrong at Johannesburg Hospital. There was a huge arguement the day of his passing, the senior doctor harshly reprimanding those doctors after a mistake made was realized and as a fact that brother would die. So, just talk unemployment and keep foreigners out. Period.
My sister died at the hands of an incompetent South African doctor. Trying to stir the waters to benefit your xenophobic agenda when we’re talking about the health industry that’s life vs death is DISGUSTING.
People moan about foreign doctors then in other videos chant eff🤡. Implement NHI then all unemployed will have jobs and all the 10yr heart surgeons and cancer doctors will leave nobody to teach but atleast graduates employed 😂☠
SA medical personel are waiting to leave for greener pastures, with the medical infrastructure collapsing, no beds, just mattresses, Dr's unemployed, medical equipment not serviced + out of order - without the NHI bill promulgated. It's better for systems to crash then it can be rebuilt, said the memba of parly + finance minister this week. Just how idiotic is that? But that's seems to be the plan to not catch a glass before it hits the ground. Politicians asking ppl to relax with plans that are nothing but disasters really are presumptuous without shame. Why not save a glass before it hits the ground? But that's not even an option it seems. Let it all goes to waste - who cares if expertise leave SA or if ppl die? No one it seems. Serious budget cuts by politicians - but politicians never cut back on looting - they also don't get prosecuted, why are ppl surprised when they are the 1s cutting back budgets? Patients, medical personel + infrastructure simply are collateral damage. Minister of health, dr mkize still walks free after horrific accusations re conspiring political violence + assassinations in KZN, the killing of Nkabinda, Babita Deokaran + Kwezi, PIC loans of R11 million to his wife + illegally chartered planes - by ppl who are suppose to save lives. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweli_Mkhize. Human rights grossly compromised but no investigations, HRC not even involved, no step aside rule or any prosecutions whatsoever. What are the chances of young medical graduates getting employment in a structured + orderly way? Not as long as the same looters + planless politicians dominate the corridors of power.
Yes. Open a private practice and watch money go down the drain. And then there's the looming NHI angst who knows how that will play on the DOH dysfunction. Best bite the bullet now, find the money, immigrate, start again. The Minister might experience emotion if the health budget cuts his job.
Doctors should consider emigrating, these hospitals are dysfunctional by the way. Department of health mxxxmu 😢. This country _messed up, there’s no center ,no hold. Cutting overtime which is a condition of service is pathetic. Shift work with 10 doctors, where will you find that, dr Mahlathi is day dreaming here. Actually shift work will cut the number and salaries of doctors.
You should do an episode on fire services and disaster management. The international standard is 1.5 fire & rescue practitioners per 1000 persons served. In the Northern Cape, it's 1 fire & rescue practitioner per 13000 persons served.
All health professionals must vote for the EFF. You need to take responsibility for your future. Complaining is not helping. We must all unite to solve our problems in general. EFF is our only hope of eliminating all these atrocities committed by the ANC.
The sad reality is the entitlement the doctors graduate have for having graduated. a qualification alone is not enough, you need to have a well written CV, Apply as much as you can, be presentable, out spoken and be able to sell your self.
I don't know if you get the point. I agree with your opinion on being able to sell yourself and all but this is not just about, "We're qualified, employ us because we deserve it." I personally, as an Independent Practitioner am now working in private. This was not my first choice. There are people from the same or similar background as me who cannot afford medical aid and better healthcare services. For me, that's one of the main reasons I decided to become a doctor, to serve the underprivileged. It's not about entitlement and having a better CV. Getting into private is also not easy. It's the sacrifices and improvising we had to make in rural public hospitals and clinics because majority of our patients can't even afford to come for healthcare services on time for early intervention and resources were very limited. Imagine working in a hospitals with no Panado for children, which is one of the safest things you can give to manage symptoms in an ailing child. We did overtime that was above and beyond what we got paid in terms of hours spent at work, regardless of how exhausted, hungry or dehydrated you are but you're prioritizing critical patients before your own wellbeing. The number of unemployed Drs is not even half of the vacant and/or frozen posts. I could go on the whole day but we have multiple crises in South Africa because of poor governance and administration. It's not about us as you're implying or as it's made to seem. This matter being the primary focus at the moment does not make any other unemployed youths' struggle inferior in any way. It's about the overall effect on the basic human right, that is access to healthcare for all.
ANC needs to be voted out. This whole situation is outrageous and downright cruel😢
No doctor will ever vote for ANC ever again!!!
No youth should ever vote for ANC ever!!!
Our suffering masses should never vote for ANC, ever!!!
You'll be surprised...SA's think with their emotions
How is it that a Hospital in North West (MPH) has 60% of its doctors being from DRC yet many graduates are sitting at home?
This cannot be possible in South Africa. 60% of foreign doctors would even threatened the HR Manager himself over his job position to ever try that.
Lies.
That is gng to go the xenophobic route as I see it..soon DRC doctors will be told that "Kaba hambe" by the PA and Dudula...these fools
If this is true, something is off.
Not suprised. Must have bribed the HR to get those posts. Money talks these days unfortunately.
As they say it’s not what you know it’s who you know.
You go to a rural hospital,you will be told that there are few doctors yet we have Doctors that are not employed. This is not right at all. We are not supposed to be having unemployed doctors, this is a clear failure of the anc government
The government has failed the youth of SA. They had 30years and yet they have failed. Let's vote them out✊
For sure, Gayton Mackenzie is the future
This is so sad. I was unemployed for 4 months post internship and I’ll be finishing my community service soon and currently working in Limpopo where there’s shift work. There are high chances I’ll be unemployed😢. We need a better party to lead us. DOH you have failed us and you don’t seem to sympathise with us and care for the communities we serve.
Have you tried applying overseas
can we get rid of all the foreign doctors and hire South African doctors first, please
It’s about time !
You cannot as a parent keep feeding your neighbours kids while your very own are starving.
By foreigners you mean Africans not white people.
As a South African I refuse to be used by these politicians taking money from white people to divide us.
We have all the minerals in Africa yet we are the poorest people that's how stupid we are as South Africans busy ngendaba ze Israel and Palestine whilst we killing our neighbors
Close the borders
Based on the response of the DOH official, I now understand why we have this current state of healthcare in this country
Wow! It's unacceptable that the state doesn't provide doctors with access to medical care.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
Come 2025 if ANC is still in power watch what we will be discussing yet again 😢
Nurses do shift work and I'm just wondering if that makes anything better. This seems like the only "solution" I'm hearing from NDoH side. It hasn't been mentioned how there are hospitals that had ghost Drs hired and that money for those posts was chowed. Corruption, more than anything else has led to "oops, no budget". Even the billions that are being mentioned are probably not all going to the currently employed Drs.
The conditions in these clinics and hospitals in terms of infrastructure (rurals especially) is another issue on its own. Corruption at every level.
Health system collapsing
Collapsed already. Now they want to implement NHI.
JJ my Man 🤜🏿 great show indeed even though the production team had some challenges.
You guys need to learn to stop blaming foreigners for all if tge issues in SA. Instead of questioning the government, you guys are using it to to fuel your hate and xenophobia...in my opinion its not fair.
I don’t understand how our government still choose this guy to answer to our grievances since he obviously has a problem with doctors since long ago. His numbers are wrong and he obviously doesn’t want us or our patient to benefit in making sure their health care is taken care of and we are employed as doctors. The government is failing us yet again. I mean, we worked in the bunduz and we understand the challenges we were faced with in terms of resources, but we still did our best with the little that we had to try and give the best healthcare we could to our rural patients…and now we have to fight just to go back to that life and try to uplift our patients while making sure we are still able to put bread ematafuleni emakhaya ethu
Akadeleli uPercy, haibo Yesu. 🤔 So heartless, condescending, sarcastic, and arrogant.
Let's be honest here, we as the youth have failed ourselves. we know how Incompetent the ANC is but we still don't show in numbers to vote. We are more than enough to remove the ANC in power... Let's stop being divided and vote for one party that is Independent. Political parties that listen to their Donors are not interested in Building state capacity. NO party will give you 100% but here's our option EFF, PA , ARISE SA AND ATM .
The 50 Billion Covivi money that they ate, could have sorted this issue. Ministers and the president could have cut their salaries while they fix this issue...This government does not khe at all!!!
Unemployed Doctors must be Creative and Come together to form their Medical Centres
That's a great idea If money is not a problem. However since they are unemployed I'd assume that money is a huge challenge. Opening your own practice requires you to have established your clientele so imagine spending +/- half a million (equipment is expensive) on getting the practice up and running only for you to have four to five patients a week for the first couple of months. The practice may only start being profitable after two years. Plus let's also remember that most people these days are struggling to cover their basic expenses, having medical aid now is a luxury for many. My point is, opening a practice requires connections and money.
You do realise most South Africans can’t afford private healthcare right???
Let them cancel Resolution 01 of 2004 which talks to rural allowance and use that money to pay unemployed health workers, because the way it is implemented right now is unjust & unfair since other professional categories are not included till today. FYI, that allowance is non-pensionable and it ranges from 8-22% of the notch depending on professional category and ISRDS nodes. Imagine using a resolution that is almost 20 years old in a dynamic world. If they managed to stop the scarce skills allowance,they can also stop this allowance and treat everyone the same,because in a health system everyone is important ,from a porter to a doctor. Moreover, I hope one day there will be an aggressive legal will to challenge these disparities.
Everyone speaks of budget constraints. Yet it was the government that made the ruling to increase medical school intake.
Therefore the maths says. If you increase in the intake. You will increase the output. So they wanted more doctors. But didn’t provide financially for it.
It’s quite simple.
Regarding frozen posts. They stopped using that term.
Government didn’t like the term “frozen post” as it made them look bad.
So instead of frozen posts. The government removed that post off their books. So yes. There are no frozen posts. (They don’t exist anymore)
It’s political jargon to confuse people. And still people on the ground suffer.
NHI was going to be their bailout. But NHI has taken longer than expected to implement.
Hopefully NHI will employ these unemployed doctors. But they will be unemployed till then.
I feel sorry for the government representative, what do they want him to say.... There is not sufficient budget, we need to grow the economy to get more tax to hire more people. We need a new government that promotes initiatives that grows the economy thereby increasing the tax base, to allow for the hiring of more staff. This is not rocket science people.
Legal profession and Medical profession same whatsapp group.
I doubt abouth anc is true they love south african at heart I don't think so.so people are going to school to be unemployed by our state.but foreigners are enjoying and benefiting in our country
Can all unemployed doctors come together to apply for funds to build hospitals whereby they will be employed.
This might be slightly less relevant,but if Dr has been unemployed for 9 months,why is He wearing the "breath in and out"?
There is money for ANC to loot! ANC voted out in 2024🙏
People must remember that Doctors are in demand all over the world, and that if Doctors are not hired in SA they will look elsewhere and this will only worsen the situation for the country even if they fix their budget issues
Agree from india
You think is easy 😂😂 the whole world professional workers goes to Western world South Africa is second opinion
Government need to reduce foreign doctors and put South Africans.
This guy from Department of Health is so clueless
DOH in general is clueless.
So how are they going to implement NHI, if they already have a budget crisis?
They just want another looting cow.
Sebokeng hospital has foreign doctors who are horrible in practice. My brother is a head of Department and i know what im saying. Anc had 30 wasted years,they've messed up everything
This never surprised anymore. My brother died after a surgery performed by south African doctors that went wrong at Johannesburg Hospital. There was a huge arguement the day of his passing, the senior doctor harshly reprimanding those doctors after a mistake made was realized and as a fact that brother would die. So, just talk unemployment and keep foreigners out. Period.
My sister died at the hands of an incompetent South African doctor. Trying to stir the waters to benefit your xenophobic agenda when we’re talking about the health industry that’s life vs death is DISGUSTING.
People moan about foreign doctors then in other videos chant eff🤡.
Implement NHI then all unemployed will have jobs and all the 10yr heart surgeons and cancer doctors will leave nobody to teach but atleast graduates employed 😂☠
Cuntry will be so fkd with NHI.
SA medical personel are waiting to leave for greener pastures, with the medical infrastructure collapsing, no beds, just mattresses, Dr's unemployed, medical equipment not serviced + out of order - without the NHI bill promulgated.
It's better for systems to crash then it can be rebuilt, said the memba of parly + finance minister this week. Just how idiotic is that? But that's seems to be the plan to not catch a glass before it hits the ground. Politicians asking ppl to relax with plans that are nothing but disasters really are presumptuous without shame.
Why not save a glass before it hits the ground? But that's not even an option it seems. Let it all goes to waste - who cares if expertise leave SA or if ppl die? No one it seems.
Serious budget cuts by politicians - but politicians never cut back on looting - they also don't get prosecuted, why are ppl surprised when they are the 1s cutting back budgets?
Patients, medical personel + infrastructure simply are collateral damage.
Minister of health, dr mkize still walks free after horrific accusations re conspiring political violence + assassinations in KZN, the killing of Nkabinda, Babita Deokaran + Kwezi, PIC loans of R11 million to his wife + illegally chartered planes - by ppl who are suppose to save lives. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweli_Mkhize.
Human rights grossly compromised but no investigations, HRC not even involved, no step aside rule or any prosecutions whatsoever. What are the chances of young medical graduates getting employment in a structured + orderly way? Not as long as the same looters + planless politicians dominate the corridors of power.
Yes. Open a private practice and watch money go down the drain. And then there's the looming NHI angst who knows how that will play on the DOH dysfunction. Best bite the bullet now, find the money, immigrate, start again. The Minister might experience emotion if the health budget cuts his job.
I don’t think the government even knows how the health system works.
Doctors should consider emigrating, these hospitals are dysfunctional by the way.
Department of health mxxxmu 😢.
This country _messed up, there’s no center ,no hold.
Cutting overtime which is a condition of service is pathetic.
Shift work with 10 doctors, where will you find that, dr Mahlathi is day dreaming here. Actually shift work will cut the number and salaries of doctors.
Lies lies lies. No one has been placed
You should do an episode on fire services and disaster management. The international standard is 1.5 fire & rescue practitioners per 1000 persons served. In the Northern Cape, it's 1 fire & rescue practitioner per 13000 persons served.
Late and after midnight sleeping times have detrimental effects, so overtime pay and shift rotation cannot be dispensed with.
Same dilemma with qualified Chartered Accountants and Engineers.
😢are you being fr?
All health professionals must vote for the EFF. You need to take responsibility for your future. Complaining is not helping. We must all unite to solve our problems in general. EFF is our only hope of eliminating all these atrocities committed by the ANC.
NHI is the answer, nobody will be paid.
The sad reality is the entitlement the doctors graduate have for having graduated. a qualification alone is not enough, you need to have a well written CV, Apply as much as you can, be presentable, out spoken and be able to sell your self.
Presentable to who and probably what does presentable mean?
Doctors aren't lawyers or marketing exactives.
I don't know if you get the point. I agree with your opinion on being able to sell yourself and all but this is not just about, "We're qualified, employ us because we deserve it." I personally, as an Independent Practitioner am now working in private. This was not my first choice. There are people from the same or similar background as me who cannot afford medical aid and better healthcare services. For me, that's one of the main reasons I decided to become a doctor, to serve the underprivileged. It's not about entitlement and having a better CV. Getting into private is also not easy.
It's the sacrifices and improvising we had to make in rural public hospitals and clinics because majority of our patients can't even afford to come for healthcare services on time for early intervention and resources were very limited. Imagine working in a hospitals with no Panado for children, which is one of the safest things you can give to manage symptoms in an ailing child. We did overtime that was above and beyond what we got paid in terms of hours spent at work, regardless of how exhausted, hungry or dehydrated you are but you're prioritizing critical patients before your own wellbeing.
The number of unemployed Drs is not even half of the vacant and/or frozen posts.
I could go on the whole day but we have multiple crises in South Africa because of poor governance and administration. It's not about us as you're implying or as it's made to seem. This matter being the primary focus at the moment does not make any other unemployed youths' struggle inferior in any way. It's about the overall effect on the basic human right, that is access to healthcare for all.
Are you serious ?💀