STORYTIME : Did I Get Scammed On eBay Or Is This A HUGE Misunderstanding ?!?!? Rare Knife Case...
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It’s called ‘shill’ bidding. It’s an offense that can get the account canceled/closed.
I was about to say the same thing. It was a massive problem in the early 2000's.
Bid manipulation is a real thing. You can report an auction for bid manipulation.
Nobody likes a snitch
Start a dispute with ebay, shill bidding is prohibited on ebay.
ive encountered that once before i really avoid budding on anything
I've found that honest people should usually go with their gut on these types of things. You come off as a pretty genuinely honest person, so you are probably on point with this. Also the fact that the seller was defensive and refunded your money after you still paid in full tells me that they were overcompensating for getting caught - which can be a reaction to guilt.
I know what you’re saying but it can also be a seller that has taken his accusations as a massive insult so they just thought to themselves ok smart arse you think that’s how I roll? . Then have a slap in the face just for your cheek throw them their money back and keep the item they know that the person really really wanted but because of his accusation decided to give him the seller’s equivalent of the finger right back.
@@SkunkPunch73 lol not in a million years, guy just didn't want to get banned and probably didn't realize Jeff would look at the bid history
He manipulated that auction for sure. Otherwise all bids would have been retracted.
I went to country knives a few years back. They still have a great selection and are still INCREDIBLY OVERPRICED
What COUNTRY KNIVES is doing, I call it "fishing". They're just casting out a line to vacationers, to see how many "SUCKER'S" they can reel in.You're best weapon as a consumer is always gonna be the doorknob. 🤑💯💪
He got caught and nervous you were gonna report him I had friends selling on ebay and they had people who would bid on items to raise the price I'm glad you got out of purchase on principle alone
I'm a weird dude too man, but I feel ya with those smells lol. Certain things just take me back to 80's/90's. We have a church in our town that smells just like the 80's lol
Can't describe it but, I get it.
Probably the last time they scrubbed well. I'll bet it has an old man and lady wear the same clothes every week without washing them smell.
Happens to me also not weird its normal
He definitely scammed you!!!! He gave u full refund because if u reported him he would have lost his selling privileges!
From an outside perspective it really does sound like he tried to play you. An once he knew you caught him he probably became worried some action would be taken against his account. And if he indeed did this intentionally chances are he's done it before except no one has caught him till now. It certainly sounded fishy.
It seems like he was trying to scam you, and should be reported. If you were being a jerk, I'd tell you! Lol
eBay is an interesting place. I buy things all the time on eBay and have only had one issue where I was sent a fake knife. The seller was also extremely defensive but I ended up getting my money back after eBay stepped in. It’s sad that these type of people taint the whole platform.
That's called shill bidding and EBay watches closely for it. They will terminate accounts if it's done repeayedly.
You can retract a bid without permission from the seller if there is 12 hours or more left on the auction.
I got a similar Benchmade branded knife case that holds 40 knives on eBay for $80. Sure, overpriced, but they are no longer made and when will you find one again?
Jeff, they were trynna scam you. However, you confronting them made them bail as you can report the auction to Ebay and have their account (and all other accounts that they run) banned
All you have to do is make a new account though🤷🏻♂️
@@optimuscrime608
Yeah, people like to think it's a whole lot harder than it really is for a scammer to be right back in business 30 seconds later.
...and that's assuming he doesn't already have aged legitimate accounts just waiting to burn.
Learning how scams work, and how scammers operate in general will always be the best protection from them.
Hey man, all the best to your dad for a swift recovery!
Thank you very much
It would be easy for ebay to track it down, so I believe they decided to refund and run. They may likely close that account and start another one just in case. I would check to see if the seller is still there.
I hope your father gets better soon. And stays better. My dad went into the hospital at the end of 2019 and was there for about a month. It was very scary. He eventually left and was doing well. But passed away last June at his home while I was at work. Its crazy how short life is and how quickly and unexpectedly it can COMPLETELY change. Without notice.
Spend every minute loving your dad. Hugging him. And taking pictures and video of him. I realized quickly that I don't have NEARLY enough pictures or video of my dad. I have some voicemails and a couple of videos that I watch/listen to to hear his voice. Learn from my mistake. I chose to up my love for him when he left the hospital. But I didn't document him nearly enough. I wish I had.
This reminds me of that episode of Sanford And Son where Fred & Lamont bid on their on stuff 😂
your right, buyer beware on ebay.
The seller did it or else there wouldn't be multiple bid retractions at progressively reduced price points. The reason he refunded you was because he was afraid he'd get reported and then eBay would restrict his account, including the shill account.
Bingo
I think you are right. I would report this to ebay.
that is a known scam and ebay will ban sellers for even suspicion of doing it
Yes agreed some sellers have a fake account that they use to bid up their own items. I have reported a few sellers for that
Hey Jeff! I have been watching your videos for about 10 years now. I will take breaks from actively watching from time to time but I always come back. I just wanted to say thanks for all the content you have made over the years. Sorry this comment isn't directly related to the video!
from what I understand a seller can get in trouble for bidding on their own auctions to jack the price even with fake accounts in order to scam buyers or artificially inflate the price. I tried to buy an item but just as I was receiving my purchase confirmation I got a message saying that the item was in fact not available -- was the only one offered and it was a "buy it now" listing. made me wonder if that seller just wanted money for nothing but I got a refund and that seller was no longer on eBay
Very cool experience brother!!
I've talked to the people at country knives and ordered a few knives from them over the years. Really cool store I've live to visit but it's on the other side of country from me..
Ide suggestion all of you check out the online shop or stop by if you are close.
Edit: wow I commented too early. That's wild Jeff and I believe you are totally right about what that seller did makes sense and is really crooked..
But deceitful thriftyness is exactly what ide say too that guy is making money hand over fist!!! Because most people would never notice that what he was doing..
This is sadly a common tactic. In my opinion its a scam and since its against the terms of service from ebay you should get him baned. You can say you were not harmed BUT he will scam other ppl and if you dont act you parttake in that. at least thats my opinion.
Yep, that’s exactly what happened. I would call it an unscrupulous technique.
I actually sell on eBay and a frequent eBay seller. I can tell you that you do not need permission for the seller to retract your bid on any auction and it will not retract the bid incrementally it would only retractable the bid on the last payment you put down. And unfortunately this does happen but very rarely. ( if anything happens like this again don't hesitate to actually call eBay support that's what they're your for) they're actually there only to help you and actually leave satisfied. depending on your situation
Yes that definitely seems fishy.
The more Benchmade items I own, the more I find them not worthy of the hype.
You shouldn’t have showed your hand that early bid at the very end of an auction if you could. I do buy it now most of the time. I don’t deal with auctions
Bidding the last 10 seconds is solid along with just buy it now. I also like to find or best offer listings as most people will do 10% off. Sometimes if it's something I don't need I'll low-ball 20-30% off and it's gotten me some crazy deals
Yo Jeff, about the benchmade ebay auction..
he was shilling and got scared when you called him on it, rather than lose his account.
P.S. what was his ebay so I can avoid him.
Honestly eBay is pretty shady anymore, I barely go on there nowadays. Ive been sold fake stuff, and Ive had sellers take my payment and just not send anything. Also you are right, you cant retract a bid unless the seller permits it, so that basically proves it was him doing it.
It's not being "Outsmarted", it's called "Deceitful Practice" and it's illegal.
Definitely sounds like a scam to me
I have a benchmade brag bag. bought it on JD years ago for $20 with 2 inserts! Its an decent case and i still use it.
Shill bidding is illegal in some states.
Im talking about in person auctions
Wow that's super relevant!!
@@CNYKnifeNerd meanie lol
Jeff, I think you were definitely the victim in this case. I would report it to eBay. I have had some interesting experiences selling items on eBay where I reported the buyer to eBay many times, and nothing was ever done to stop his habit of buying my items and not paying for them.
I have an old Benchmade model 46 limited edition with some amazing raindrop Damascus 04/25. Just sent it back to Benchmade and they hand sharpened the edge to a mirror polish. Don't know if you read this but I've been thinking about trading.
Jeff, think of this.. because people with zero or negative feedback have a tendency to not pay.. so if someone wins that just made a new account with no feedback the seller can cancel that person's bid and cancel them down until they get to the person they know will pay for the item. I'm just saying, I honestly think if the seller is depending on selling something on eBay and paying all the fees then he would not take a chance on someone with horrible feedback. Just my 2 cents
Hi Jeff it may not have been a scam, I have had similar bidding activity on items I have sold on eBay in the uk. If a bid is made early on an item another bidder will bid up in increments until they find out how much the first bidder has bid on an item then retract either all or some of their bids ( this can be done in the uk, don’t know about the usa. If there is 12 hours or more left on the auction) then if they are willing to out bid they will submit a price a pound or two over what they found out the first bidder had on the item moments before the auction ends. It’s a sneaky way of not getting in to a bidding war. Also as a seller I can understand giving a refund no questions asked before the item is sent as it can save a lot of hassle if it is likely there will be a dispute with a buyer.
2021 Cutlery Lover: Thrifty Deceitfulness.👍
ive decided thrifty was not the right word to use lol but in the moment it made sense haha, thrifty usually describes ways to save money but scamming to make more is not thrifty by definition...Thrifty is like a synonym for frugal
@@cutlerylover I want to know if your top bid was say $5.00 or less, would he have raised the bid?
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Jeff, what I don't understand is why you can only bid on eBay from your home? Why don't you have the eBay app on your phone? Over the years I've bid and won a few things on eBay using the eBay app on my Samsung Galaxy phone and then used Paypal to pay for them.
I think you have got your wires crossed! I know that if you put your bid in a Max’s of 100 just for example. The next bidder then places their bid and if it’s lower eBay will then place your bid which beats their bid all the way until it hits your maximum amount. Then if a bid is received you get your notification that you have been out bid. Now if you try retracting a bid it doesn’t let you slowly go down in your bids but you just retract it all in one go no increments aloud. Plus if it’s close too the end of the bid with in 48 hours the only way you can try and get your bid retracted is by contacting the seller, before this you don’t have to contact them . If the bidding history was showing someone slowly increasing their bids that’s normal as they are just trying too win and also battling with the amount they are willing to pay (we all get a little bit carried away ) but if they placed a bid of 2000$ in and your bid was only 100$ it wouldn’t show up that you had been out bid and then show 2k in the bids but only $100.01 I hope this makes some sort of sense to you I am sorry I am incredibly dyslexic and just can’t write out what is very easy for me to speak. But still at the end of the day you can always report the seller and if they are not doing anything wrong then nothing will happen to them whatsoever. Have a beautiful day 😘👍
Smells like fresh air and nylon...that’s how you know you’re from pike county lmaoooo(that’s a smell I understand)
His prices sound like a gun store I buy from often. Private owned shop and because of that it made no sense for him to bulk buy firearms to get cheaper shipping and bulk pricing. So his prices reflects that extra price and shipping on top of his cut of the sale. On the plus side he will order anything from anywhere (including used on gunbroker) to his store for you and only charge 10% for his time and the typical transfer and background fee. But that being said he is local and I like supporting local.
A lot of people are saying you ripped yourself off but I disagree. It’s a great band and people would spend a lot if they really love it like you. I’m not really sure if you got scammed or not though, sorry. Stay safe
Jeff you almost certainly got screwed. I've had similar experiences on Ebay which has made me not go there first over the years. Probably 6 years ago or so my daughters favorite show was NCIS. She made good grades and to reward her I went to ebay and looked for the DVD set with all the seasons, after finding multiple listings I found one and actually won it for around $40 I believe when all of the other listings were going around $100. As soon as I won it the shipping changed from $11.99 (which I believe was the medium flat rate box price at the time) to like $45. I immediately starting raising hell with the seller and reported him to eBay and at first his excuse was that he didn't know the proper price it was going to cost to ship the dvd's until after the fact. I called him out on his bs and he actually refunded on the shipping money and the dvd's showed up in a medium flat rate box. He was trying to recover some of the money he lost from me winning the auction threw the shipping cost
I'm a seller on ebay and your story sounds odd if a person bids and cancels it usually will go to the last bidder. Also I was looking for a knife and missed a seller who had it listed for 630 and 10 shipping at the time so as a seller you have ebay fees plus taxes so basically he would have got about 520 total and he had listed a different color of the same knife and I had asked if he had more versions available so he gives me his email and I contacted him and he had like 4 of these knives and had 2 left . So he showed one that wasn't the colors I wanted and it was more than I wanted to pay and then he said he had one more and it would be cheaper and in the range I was able to afford so he showed me the pic and it was the one I wanted so I said 600 for it and PayPal only so no fees what I offered is what you would get and then he changes his story saying it's my carry one and idk so i said you just told me that this was one you would sell and now you don't then he tries to get more money for it and I just was on Google search and I found a listing for the same knife and that's how I found out about that listing for 630 so after a few days I sent him a message about his previous listing and how I was giving more than what he would have made if he sold it on ebay then he tries to say he's not greedy but wants more money after that I just told him if I had known about the knife a week earlier I would have got the knife and he would have got less money for it. After this person and seeing his greed it was truly disappointing especially since he had alot of these models he sold and made a lot of money
You are right. Seller goes from claiming you're 'harassing' him to making a full refund on his own accord? Guilty! Please report him, others may not be as savvy.
No seller doesn't need to approve the other person retract their bid! The other person can withdraw their bid when ever they want expect if they made their bid 12 hours before the auction ended. The only thing that's weird is if that bidder out bid you they will know exactly how much your bid amount is so they don't need to retract many times to be under your bid amount.
I've seen this "scam" ran b4. Ebay tries to crack down on alt accounts bidding on same person auctions.
Typically I just buy now stuff or offer when I want something
Fun fact - country knives still has alot of knives for sale at crazy prices. But he has alot of stuff thats rare and discontinued. And his prices reflect how rare they r. Some stuff is priced in the mid to higher end of the secondary market.
"Thrifty manipulation" is great that made me laugh
Sounds like a scam to me!! Not cool
It's called shill bidding. They knew you wanted it real bad and kept upping the price. Dirty af.
PS: you were totally right thinking you got scammed. I would report the auction to Ebay and let them review the bid history. Since you got a refund you're no longer a victim so they may do nothing with it.
I found a link where they sell Benchmade bragbags it is not the same as you have but it is still a Benchmade
i try to add the link here but looks like RUclips don't allow me to do that
I dont have your email address let me know if you are interested and have an idea how to give you the link
I dont use any social media like facebook nothing like that
Yah, that's a pretty common thing fortunately, I tend to just stick to buys instead of auctions after being burned a couple times.
I have one too real quick , I rarely use Ebay and just have recently for a few knives that are hard to get. Ofcourse in the search for these knives up pops a Chinese replica of a very popular knife I wont say which one lol. And it happened to be a very good one at that. I quickly watched some reviews and decided to give it a shot , I was more so curious to see how they packed this much into the price they were asking lol. The sketchy part is everytime I would put in a pretty good size bid that usually any other time would win the auction I was instantly over bid. And then when I backed out and wouldn't continue the bid war started recieving messages and emails saying it's still available this and that. Ya. Seems like a controlled auction to me. No thanks. The sad part is this just isnt on Ebay. Scams are everywhere now and only getting way worse and prevalent. Be careful out there!
If it did go down the way you said it, his account could get indefinitely suspended for that.
problem is I didnt pay with paypal so when you go to dispute a case it asks what paypal transaction it was and there wasnt one..
I really like the resaw or head rig saw marks on your table
Hope all goes well for your father.
as im listening and i hear the story unfold im thinking oh no i have seen people do this tactics on 3D printers driving the price up into 3 *digit* numbers by bidding 7 times within seconds of the last bid placed its so scummy i wouldnt settle for that jeff seriously thats like daylight robbery
According to Google, shill bidding can lead to federal charges.
Yeah, he found a loophole in the system. I was banned from eBay because the knife I wanted had a instant purchase price, and I bought it at that price, then the seller raised the price. I would not pay the raised price, and he reported me for not paying. I then sent him messages about his methods, and ebay banned me for harassment. I hate ebay.
You can retract one or 2 bids in a month period anything more than that you have to call and give a damn good explanation for your reasons.... He definitely tried to scam you I'm glad you aren't out the cash you should definitely contact Ebay and report him.
Definitely seems suspicious at the very least.
I think you are right and he jacked it up a bit by using a fake account. I know a guy who works in fraud at ebay and he says it’s done all the time unfortunately.
Sorry to hear about your dad . I hope he makes a speedy recovery .
Sounds like a scam.
You should get a sewing machine. You could probably make a version of that case for a few dollars. Peace
Thanks for the heads up on what ebay seller COULD be doing. 👍👍
Im not a rat I dont name drop unless its seriously important...
Bid rigging is common at in person auctions…… but I didn’t know eBay allowed it. Hope you father recovers and comes home.good luck, Jeff.
Sounds too fishy. Use a auction sniper program, will help with that problem. Bidding in last few seconds will avoid scammers trying to shill bid
I searched sold listings on eBay and found what appears to be the same "brag bag" that was sold again potentially after this incident. the seller had the same bidding history as Jeff described. the item was overbid and then incrementally canceled from a third bidder until the person who won only won by one cent. definitely seems like the guy did it on purpose and unfortunately shilled someone else out of some more money. I won't post any info on them but it wasn't that hard to find.
Report that guy to protect other unsuspecting victims. I love eBay and hate to see stuff like that happen
there should be no need to scam when there is the "Buy It Now" option.put the money you wanted for it and odds are you get it.
Yeah, if the seller said the third bidder retracted his bid because it was used, I'm pretty sure it would retract all his bids. Sounds like a shill bidding scam.
That would be a scam also I remember when you bought a pot leaf pot holder for some reason
Not weird at all bro sometimes a smell can bring you right there and especially a song you haven't heard for awhile it happens to me 🤜🏻🤛🏻🤘🏻
Yeah you can't take your bid back once you bid that's it.
If you don't buy it then you get a penalty for not buying the product.
I'm real careful when bidding I don't go over what the product is worth you can't go with feelings.
I seen junk garbage go for top dollar on eBay.
I just found the auction on ebay... they definitely broke ebay rules. I can't see the bidder besides them having 335 feedback but it says next to their name that they aren't a registered user. Must be that user name got kicked but the seller is still selling. The user that bid definitely did a bid of 150 and then retracted that and then went 140... then retracted the 140 and then finally bid the 135 all within 5 minutes and then retracted their last bid hours after.. their final bid that they left was 138.. definitely not right to take advantage of you
It does sound like a scam, and on eBay there’s a lot of scammers, however, as a seller eBay tells you what the highest bid on your product is, so it’s possible that he’s telling the truth and that “other guy” was just trying to help him get the most money for it. Just a possibility but it could also very much have been someone trying to play you. Either way it’s a bummer.
Drinking flat root beer 🍺 and making pretzels is about the only thing to do in Lancaster
It's always weird when you don't hear people truncate the second a in Lancaster - it makes you stick out. Down here in mid we just go "Lankister"
Makes me wanna go to this place - at worst I'll just tell myself "It was a convenience charge"
Yeah man, the worst stuff happens to me when I don't listen to my instincts. Sounds shady, totally not interested.
This always happens on eBay. I don't bid on anything on that scam of a site
No question that's definitely what he was doing. I'd report him.
Have you tried contacting the knife store you go this one from, just in case they had more
Yeah I bought a few knives from them their way over priced and actually I bought a para military two ,Carbon fiber S 90 V‘s payed way too much for it and it has the worst lock stick of any PM two I’ve ever handled
I don’t know about that to be honest, but it definitely seems fishy. I would simply avoid that seller from now on. Always check their feedback. It’s not as easy to scam people on eBay today like it used to be thanks to the new safeguards the company and PayPal have put in place. I never had to retract one of my bids so I don’t know how that process works. Just be careful who you buy from.
I reported once this but in turned out that another buyer wanted it too but in the end my final offer who's still to high for him.
At least ebay mail explained it that way.
No what you describe is something that happens way more common than you think on eBay. And when the seller is caught it's very ugly for them between them and eBay. And when someone like you was to report it and eBay looks into it there's no hiding when it's done so that's why he went and refunded your money he didn't want the heat. I can bet my eye teeth
I was conned out of 1500 dollars in the 90s on EBay, I’m still getting the money back as it is still being paid by her due to class action. I learned very early how to deal with EBay, I mostly don’t.
Yes it was a scam... That happened to me on gunbroker.... so I contacted the seller claiming the same thing and they immediately canceled my bid... gunbroker is ebay for guns..... ebay works the same way...
That's why I quit using Ebay years ago! Shady as hell!
It’s now eBay, it’s the seller
I tried sharing a link for one but apparently can't do that, being that my comment is gone.
The shill bidder (the seller or seller's friend?) did this on another auction that ended the same day as yours. The shill account has since been closed. I would say that it is pretty conclusive that they were trying to get more $ out of you.
Wow........that was clever. I have never seen that.
I lived in Lancaster for a while… great little town!