The Rebel 1100 Is NOT What You Think It Is…
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- They say our best thinking happens in the shower. Well, I had a shower thought about the Rebel 1100 and how I've already seen quite a few people buy one, just to end up selling it shortly after because it didn't meet their needs or wasn't what they were expecting. And that got me thinking...were they expecting a "real cruiser?" Because I could've told them that wasn't what they were getting!
Anyway, I had that shower thought and an hour later, this video was born. Enjoy.
If you have a Rebel 1100 yourself, be sure to leave a comment weighing in on your thoughts on the topic!
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While I love my Harleys, I'm a motorcycle enthusiast all around. I think what Honda is doing with the Rebel line is definitely putting them in a winning position.
@@cassius348 Traded my Fat Bob 114 in last month for a Ninja 650. 🤣
@@joshmcconnell7495 wow, did your friends make fun of you?
@@joshmcconnell7495 I hope it was three ninjas.
@@MalfunctioningAndroid Nope, just one. And a bucket load of cash on the side.
@@joshmcconnell7495 good man. But three ninjas would be cooler.
Lifeofbirch, purchased my rebel 1100 in December because of your videos. Always thought I would be buying a tradition cruiser but more I watch and did research this bike just spoke to me. The mix of naked/cruiser feel sold me. Thanks for the content my dude.
Dude that’s awesome!! Congrats on your Rebel and I hope you’re loving yours as much as I’m loving mine! It’s such a unique and fun bike! Ride safe brotha 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
The mix of naked/cruiser of the Rebel line is PERFECT. It has the looks, the power, and the comfort of a cruiser without the extreme weight and lack of handling of a "real" one. Honda is doing something phenomenal with these bikes.
Chillin at the beach, on a storm day, enjoy the big waves, eating a pack of blue sour patch kids, AND a LifeOfBurch video drops when I can actually watch it new?
Hell yeah! Don't forget to click that notification bell everyone, and you too can make an awesome morning EVEN MORE awesome.
You know how they say the best story tellers paint a picture with their words…that’s exactly what you just did! I felt like I was there, even down to the GOAT sour patch flavor! Haha And you’re damn right every needs to set up notifications! I checked the other day and only like 2,000 of my subscribers have notifications turned on 😡
Because of you I’m now getting a new 2022 Honda rebel 1100 so thank you for all the information about this bike
In spite of the fact I ride a more traditional cruiser, I'm still intrigued by this bike. I'll be stopping at my local Honda motorcycle dealer tomorrow to check it out. If the weather is okay, I may even take it for a test ride.
I always appreciate people who ride in the cold.
Gotta get my fix somehow! Hahah 🏍🤘🏻
Great job Burch. You really do have a great knack of explaining things in real world sense. Got me thinking about trading in my CB1100, but as cool as the Rebel 1100 is, I can’t get rid of my Honda. But great video as always 😊
Yesterday I drove 1k km to pick up my first bike which of course was the Rebel 1100.
After watching all of your videos I was sure that this bike bring everything that I look for and love.
Thank you for your content :D
Much love from Sweden
Mmm I think not all cruisers are Tourers. Good vid. Thanks for riding on 40 degree weather for the vid
Perfect timing ! Was looking for a video to watch so I refreshed and boom this popped up. So happy cause I love your videos man !
Hell yea!! Perfect timing dude! And you got first comment too! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch awesome ! Really love your work keep it up and you’ll have your goals of being full time youtuber way before end of this year ! You really inspire me to get sh*t done (pardon my French, I am French so it works out well lol) and I’m looking forward to getting my motorcycle license once I’m done with my studies so I can go rip. And my first bike will definitely be a Rebel (500 cause I’ll be a newby and that’s the max I can get in France and then I’ll upgrade to the 1100 or whatever the best offering is then)
Really like your videos! Keep it up 'cause you are doing a great job. Thank you for a lot of information about the bike, I am about to order one for myself tomorrow. I am hoping for maybe not "typical cruiser experience" 'cause I already have a bulky, old rusty Honda Shadow VT1100 2001 US version but I am hoping I will be able to do some roadtrips with my misses on this Rebel. Since I am from Europe I can't rly get my hands on any typical cruiser that would be brand new (except for Harley, but they are very expensive in EU). Hope Rebel will deliver a nice balance between fun city naked riding and highway duo roadtrip experience.
Fun video on a cold looking ride. You and shadetree posted right after each other great start to my day!
Ayyy not a bad start to your Sunday dude! And yea the ride definitely wasn’t the warmest! Haha
I think you nailed it here!! I agree with everything you said about this bike and that's why I just put a deposit down on one this weekend. Reminds me of a standard with a cruiser look....PERFECTION.
I always try to figure out if I know where you’re riding! Another great video!
I kind of said it six months ago but given that, I actually test rode the Sportster S and pick mine up this week. Neither are a traditional cruiser. They are just good bikes. You can cross the country in a VW Beetle, a camper van is better to cross the country. The Rebel and Sportster S are like the Beetle, good and zippy, can do the range if needed but there is better to choose from if that is your thing.
Really good comparison! Just because something “can” do the job, doesn’t mean that it’s necessarily suited for the job. Congrats on your Sportster S! So exciting!!
i searched and looked and got information and questioned my self for about 3 years before i got my rebel 500 and love it
I pick up my 2021 in Bordeaux red by the end of next week. I’ve watched most of your videos and I’m excited for it not too be the “traditional” cruiser.
That’s so exciting dude, you’re gonna love it!! I can only imagine how excited you are! 🙌🏻
I've done a few 700-800 mile trips on mine, and it is a good jack of all trades fun bike, but I am thinking of getting a Gold Wing for the long trips to be more comfortable
Did 1000km round trip on my rebel 1100 and it felt like my ass was gonna fall off. Fun bike but not practical for long hauls
Sing it brother! Spot on, it can be whatever one wants it to be! Awesome video as always! 🤙
Have to agree 100%, only own mine 3 weeks but after being on a dragstar for 4 years the rebel handles completely differently, corners a lot sharper and is easier to ride. Enjoying it so far but will need a wind shield for motorway speeds. I also love the power of the Africa twin engine.
The content of this video is spot on! After testing this bike out for approximately 80 miles, I could not agree more with your assessment of this awesome machine. 🏍️💨
I got the same feeling about my rebel. More of a fun short ride around town, but if I did want to ride some place away from my riding area, I would put it on a trailer and bring it.
Been watching you for a long time, just realized I wasn’t subscribed. Just so used to searching up your name to watch the vids, lmao. Good shit as always!!
I'm more of a cruiser fan myself, BUT I'm still getting the rebel 1100 as my 2nd bike because I just like the way it looks, and it'll be perfect for my girl to learn on, also I want variety in my motorcycle collection lol.
Hey you can’t argue with that! Whatever it takes to get a Rebel 1100 in your stable! 😂 You’re gonna love it dude!!
@@LifeOfBurch hell yea brother!
@@EXECUTI0N619 I have a VStar 1300 but def want to add this Rebel as a 2nd bike to still have the cruiser like sitting position, but weight and flickability of a sportier bike.
Very good points you make about doing research before buying. If I had the money I would have several bikes depending on how I felt like riding that day. I do like the Rebel 1100 for the characteristics you mention.
Agreed! If money weren’t an issue I’d have a different bike for each different purpose, but since I’m broke, the Rebel 1100 will do just fine as my “do it all” bike! 😂🤘🏻
I got a cruiser and a naked I need a sumo and an adventure then I'm set maybe a dirt bike too
I'd call it a standard. Like the sportster, ftr, cb750 etc. I think Indian even lists the ftr as a standard. I would consider the scouts cruisers.
i ordered one of these and this video lists all the reason why i did.
Interesting vid. Ride safe, god bless u.
I def want one of these. Just picked up a VStar 1300 after not having a bike for 8 years. And I really like it, but I miss being able to flick the bike around like I could my sport bike back in the day.
But I’ve had 2 back surgeries and have to prioritize comfort and riding position. After seeing your videos, I sat on a Rebel 1100 they had up at the dealer when I was getting my tire swapped for my 1300… and man it felt good.
Maybe in a few years I can pick one up for a few grand and then have both bikes to use depending on what type of riding I’m doing.
Since I got my 2022 Rebel 1100, that handling/maneuverability can be deceiving! Twice, I attempted two TIGHT turns (that I've done on Rebel 500 with no issues) at super slow speeds but laid it down because that weight suddenly shifts causing me to lose control. ZERO REGRETS upgrading but a hard lesson I had to learn!
Not the fault of the bike, that's lack of rider ability with the friction zone
@@Big_John_C Dude, I never blamed the bike! I fully admit it was my fault but you wanted to take a jab at me simply for your own sastifaction.
The vast majority or riders in VA and MD winterize their bikes and don’t touch them from November to April. I can’t put my babies away for all those months. If it’s above 45 degrees, I ride.
Agreed! I get withdrawals when I’m away from my babies! 😂 I hate the cold, but I’ll tough it out for a quick ride when I can 🤘🏻
Absolutely confirm that the Rebel 1100 performs much more like a naked sportbike than a regular cruiser. Riding around my dad's Rebel 1100 DCT, I feel like that thing wants to throw me off my seat when snapping on the throttle. Really, I have a CB650R, and I feel like the rebel 1100 can pull off the line so much faster while I'm in the back winding up the inline 4! Haha.
Nice, thorough evaluation. Did you have a chance to test drive one with ADCT transmission. I humbly nominated for the 4th category of King of the Super Sport Scooter. And congratulations for manifesting your dream. Happy trails and be safe..
And thats why I have a 1980 XS1100 for fun, 2001 r1100rt for work and the beast K1200LT for long haul cruising in comfort...👍
Hey Burch! I love your videos! Whats your camera/mic setup?
I'm between the Rebel 1100 and A Kawasaki Z900RS. I regrettably sold the Z I had in 2019 and i thought about grabbing another one however, now the Rebel has caught my attention; kind of leaning towards the Rebel...it ticks all the boxes for me.
Good comparison
from your description of a cruiser i was picturing a touring bike like a road king or gold wing. so i would say the rebel is a performance cruiser
its a "cruiser" for sport bike riders, id say
I come from sport bikes and standards/naked bikes and I wanted something more relaxed with a lower center of gravity, but I didn't want a tank to ride. I still wanted it to be very capable. This and the Vulcan S were the perfect options for me. I went with this bike and it's awesome.
I really want one of these (the DCT version) but I would prefer belt drive because lack of maintenance so I have a question…. How often do you clean, lube and tighten your motorcycle chain? I hear different things, some say every 600 miles others say maybe once a year. I just want to know your opinion on this particular bike. Is it really necessary to do it every 600 miles?? I will never ride in the rain only on sunny days (I have a car for rainy days) I plan on making my decision by this weekend. Thanks 🙏 loved the video by the way. Thanks
I have a totally different bike (2019 MT07) but I'm definitely lacking in chain maintenance. Maybe a couple times a season. Hasn't caused any issues (yet 👀)
I just bought my Rebel 1100 today. Love the ride! Definitely not a traditional cruiser.
First of all thanks for your vids man, I really appreciate them!
One question: I wonder if I should switch over from my 2011 Fat Bob to the Rebel 1100 because I really like the sporty agility of the Rebel. My only concern is, if I can still do my multi day long range trips (350 - 450 km per day) with this bike (due to small gas tank and comfort). Can you also recommend it for that? Or do you see it more as a daily commuter and short range trip bike?
Thanks an advance and keep on doing your thing man!
It absolutely still can do long trips! Will it be as comfortable and practical as your Fat Bob on those longer trips? Probably not. BUT the trade off is the sporty agility you’re looking for. This bike really feels like a “jack of all trades” kind of bike. As for the small gas tank, I get about 125 miles out of mine with my daily mixed riding, so you can expect a bit more on strictly highway trips. Not a huge number by any means, but it at least gives you a reason to get off and stretch every two hours 😂
Check out Quasimotard’s channel if you haven’t already! He took his Rebel 1100 on a 3,000 mile round trip to come to my meetup last year! On the way up here he knocked out over 1,000 miles in one day! 😳 He’s definitely a GREAT resource for any questions about the Rebel’s long distance practicality! Hope that helps 🤘🏻
@@LifeOfBurch wow thanks for the swift and detailed response! I will check Quasimotard’s channel for sure. But I already believe that the trade off is fine for me. I ride about 125 days to work (100km forth and back) where the agility will be great and do only one multi day trip a year for round about 3-4,000 km where I have the downside. And if I can get a better seat I probably can minimize that downside even more. Thanks again!
Does having that exhaust pointed up at the saddle bag like that heat it up at all? I was thinking of doing a similar configuration
I would add, for the people looking to tour the country, that a big Sport Tourer like an FJR is actually waaaaaaay more comfortable than most cruisers for actual long rides. The straight upright position is much more comfortable after hours of riding than the laid back position. And you don't get numb hands from excessive V-Twin vibration.
I was looking at the Indian Scout and Rebel 1100. I was leaning towards the Scout because it made me feel like I looked badass on it... but primarily because there were no Rebel 1100s around! I ended up getting lucky and finding a Rebel 1100 DCT and I'm super happy. The Scout does its job of being a slammed cruiser (and the Bobber goes even lower) that gives you that raw experience... but in the end, it's a bit too raw to be an only bike. It doesn't even have a fuel gauge! At $5,000 more than the Rebel 1100 with truly crappy stock suspension on the Scout, I am very, very happy I went with the Honda.
IMHO, if the category still existed, the Rebel 1100 would be either a Standard or a UJM. However, those classifications kind of faded away and got merged into ADV or Sportbike for the more plastic-faired bikes (Versys, MT-09 Tracer) and Cruiser for the naked ones.
But which one do you look cooler riding? Lol did you like the feel of the Scout better for short rides or still preferred the 1100?
@@Anthony-ny8dg I don't know which one I *actually* looked cooler riding, but definitely *felt* cooler on the Scout. The Rebel is better in almost every way for actually riding than the Scout, unless you're extra, extra short. The default mode on the Scout feels more powerful than the default mode on the Rebel, but you can just flick the Rebel into "Sport" mode and it's just as powerful. The stock Scout sounds a little better, but nobody who cares about sounds leaves it stock. That said, I have not had an opportunity to ride a Scout with an upgraded suspension, which supposedly fixes the main problems. The stock Rebel 1100 suspension is adequate for my 280lb self, while the stock Scout suspension is not.
A low rpm naked bike with a relaxed riding position and excellent amenities? Sign me up!
Honda reliability is an added bonus.
I would like to see a review of the batwing fairing and windscreen if ur up 4 it😬
the bike targets people who are short, its seat is comfortable, the engine is slow to pick from low revs, the foot pegs position are unlikely to put a smile on your face if you over 5' 8" tall, the legs will suffer from cramp within a few minutes, someone aftermarket forward pegs will sort this out though. the handle bar position is little odd as it means a short rider must sit upright, so any benefit of cruiser style lazy seat is instantly lost. a nice bike but if over 5' 7" tall there are others they maybe with a closer look. nice movie
It's a day tripper!😎
The PERFECT day tripper! Go out for the day, explore a new city, try some new food and then hit some back roads. That’s exactly what I love this bike for! 🤘🏻
I would love to have the 1100 as a second bike, but being 6' 5" tall and in the 280 lb range, I just can't see myself fitting on it. Frankly, an Indian Scout is like walking onto a Mini-Bike. My current bike is a Victory Vision Tour which has a 38 degree lean angle and is downright agile for it's size and weight, but it would be nice having a smaller and lighter knock around town motorcycle. I envy you average size folks. You nailed it well in this video, Burch!
The M109 and Concourse are the only 2 contemporary bike's even workably close to fitting. I ride a KLR650 because it was the only bike in the showroom with a flat seat so I can ride where the passenger would.
Same size and close to weight of you... and figure that there has to be a way to make the Rebel 1100 work if only ridden solo.
Agreed :D My most-hated video is one in which I mentioned that I don't put the Rebel 1100 in the "Cruiser" class. Still looks like a great bike :D
Yea if you want to get a lot of hate on RUclips, just have an opinion about literally anything 😂 I’m surprised these comments have even been as tame as they have been so far. I’m still waiting on the keyboard warriors to crawl out from their holes hahah
@@LifeOfBurch Haha, no kidding! I think the keyboard commandos have the day off - it's a Federal holiday today :D
If you can rent/borrow a Honda Shadow 750 side by side to this I think it would create a very clear visual for the comparison. Both hondas, both cruisers but different
Hey, have you looked at the Depretto Moto forward controls? They are supposed to be more stable than the T-Rex Racing FC kit, but not adjustable. Do you think FC would be what is needed for long distance? Maybe with the Honda batwing fairing?
I rode a vulcan, not sure what size but it was probably the smallest one, and I was like wtf? Also reminded me of a sport bike.
I like the parallel twin more there is a clearer separation to the firing pattern where v twins obviously get some overlapping sounds to their firing pattern
Hi Birch , would you know if the oem luggage mounts from the 2020 rebel 500 would fit on the 1100? how about the headlight cowl? thanks
Would u recommend this bike for a beginner (to street bikes) love ur vids man been binge watching all day today
Is actually for beginners, the only thing I would say is that if you’re thinking for long rides. Idk bro, I think there is other choices, my brother has one and is more like Going to work and back home bike. The reason why I say the long trips is because after an hour you gonna fell your ass falls off lol💀.
My wife has the 500, 3rd summer coming up and I have my Heritage which I have had for 15 years.This week was time to drag the bikes out week and even though i have had the battery tender on the Harley I still wonder if its gonna fire up.Not so with the Honda.Never a doubt.It fires up like I been riding it all winter.Very dependable bike!
Gotta love that Honda reliability! 🙌🏻
Definitely a Sporty Cruiser, I Love Mine!
Great review of why this thing is different. I've been wanting one but the price for it is kinda high and I've always been a more classic cruiser guy. Soooo instead I'm looking at the Kawasaki Vulcan 900 classic
Thanks man! The Vulcan 900 is definitely a sweet choice if you’re looking for a more traditional cruiser! My neighbor’s friend had one and she rode it cross country with no issues! Literally took it from here to the west coast and loved it 🙌🏻
@@LifeOfBurch have you seen the 2022 model? They're going with a teal and black look. Likes very nice
Hey, any clue on how you put that white line around the bike and yourself in the thumbnails? Just curious as looks great.
@LifeOfBurch What phone mount is that on the handlebar?
AM I correct in noticing that you put the stock seat back on?
My first bike was a kawasaki vulcan S, traded that in for a yamaha fz 09 a couple years ago and as fun as the FZ is, I just miss the cruiser ergos man.. my next bike 100% is the Rebel 1100 though, literally everything I want in a bike
I checked this out after a dealer suggested it. I live on a mountain and need a larger engine also take a lot of road trips. After watching this I’m not sure if it’s what I’m really looking for. Also looking at an Indian scout hoping someone sees this and gives me a suggestion :)
Hey bro, nice explanation. Can you please give me some insights when comparing MT07 and Rebel. I really love 07 but am seriously considering Rebel since it has even more torque, cruise control, lower weight. I also ride a lot with my wife and I believe I could make Rebel comfortable for us both. I would appreciate your information on the topic. Thanks :)
the pegs are adjustable for leg length ? a neet feature of the vulcan S.
where did you get them saddle bags
I see you have your jacket and helmet listed in the description, but I’m more curious about your gloves. I live in Cleveland and it gets chilly. I bought a pair of gloves that are designed for snowmobile and other winter moto activity, but even in 45 degree weather, my fingers freeze after about 45 minutes of riding. I really want to stretch out my riding season, but I can’t do that if my hands are numb! What are you using?
Hi, thanks for your opinion! Just the things that a potential buyer wants to know! Have you driven Indian FTR 1200, here un México, are at same price?? I dont know which one choose! Thanks a lot!
Burch, would you mind doing a comparison video with the Triumph Bobber? I see everyone comparing the Rebel to the Sportster S and the Street Bob, but honestly, the Bobber just seems to be closer in terms of engine performance.
Yeah I was thinking about getting my 16 year old daughter one of those, but she doesn’t really want a girls bike so we settled on a GSXR750.
hi Burch, should beginner start on rebel 500 first?
Well Burch, what can I say.... The 1100 is a sport cruiser, emphasis on Sport...... It's a light cruiser like my Bolt, which Yamaha refers to as a Sport Heritage Cruiser. Me, I just call it a Naked Cruiser... Stay Safe, Ciao.
Your bike sounds way better than a Harley any day. Can't go past a Two Brothers exhaust tho. My R1 has a Two Brothers shorty and it sounds awesome.
Its smfirst time i saw it i thought ducati monster. The more of it i see the more i want one i like the inline twin dosent sound like it wants to rattle apart
Overall profile makes it look like we're going back to 1983-1993
You should go out to Bay ridge and drive down Bay road for a video, its a great view of the bay and I grew up on Decatur avenue
I LOVE Bay Rd! I go there allll the time and you’ll see it in a handful of my videos. In fact I go there enough that I made it the final photo spot on my group ride so that my subscribers could see it in person after seeing it in so many of my videos! Check it out- ruclips.net/video/v1hyAVDRJGI/видео.html
Man I reeallly want one of these but I just can’t afford it rn. Also don’t know if where I live is the best for riding around
Do you have the DCT version? If so is it different as far as shifting?
It's a Modern Cruiser that is fine on the Highway as that's what Cruisers do!
How’s the wind riding that bike? I live in Houston so riding the freeway or going 45+ in roads is very common and wanted to know
The wind isn’t bad at all! The bike’s nice and stable even in stronger winds. After an hour or two at highway speeds I start to get some fatigue in my neck, but I’m sure a windscreen would easily solve that. I just haven’t found one I like yet!
Did you flash the ECU with the exhaust or no?
Where coukd i get those saddlebags?
curious how the dct compares to my ctx700 dct
A dynamically solid bike, I just wish they would do something with the styling. It looks too much like an 80s Shadow with a blacked out paint job.
Hey I m passionate about drifting the motorcycle and wanted to buy Yamaha 950 in order to do this. Is the Rebel 1100 suitable for drifting??
What bike do you like more? Fz07 or this bike?
For people who don't know Honda this is what they typically do. Like the CBR300R, CB300, and Rebel 300 share a lot of parts. They are not the same bike but they almost all try and be stander road bikes tuned to a specific application
I'd say the Rebel 1100 is a Sportster 1200 with better reliability and liquid cooling. My Sportster is torquey as hell all the time and it wheelies no problem. It is an 883 with a big bore 1250 and a stage 1 tune so it gets you around 75-80hp which is about what a Rebel 1100 is and a 1250 will outrun a 2017 MT07 but lose on gearing when the MT overtakes at 140kmh and keeps going to 220kmh while I top out at 160kmh.
Thanks for sharing . Looks Like a Great bike.
Would u say this one is better than the Yamaha bolt?
I much prefer the Rebel over the Bolt, but with that said, I’ve never ridden a Bolt. The Bolt just seems more in line with the “typical cruiser” feel, which isn’t for me. It’s heavier, slower, and much less tech than the Rebel. I will admit they look good though!
Your engine makes power. Your gears make torque. First gear makes a lot of torque and little speed. Sixth gear makes little torque and a lot of speed. The engine power doesn't change by changing the gear.
What you are feeling is power to weight. Your bike may make less power at low rpm than an HD, but it weighs considerably less. Consequently, it accelerates a little faster.
Did not you just do a video with the Corbin seat trying to turn it into a traditional cruiser? I agree with you on this video, it's for the twisties and just the all handling of the bike. But not at all built to have a passenger on it.
Is it good for daily driver ?
How many rpms are you doing at 70 mph?
where did you get the side bags and back rod for the passenger?
Check out my Rebel 1100 How-To playlist! I have a video for every mod I’ve done 🤘🏻
Honda needs to just put out another Valkyrie
If you’re coming from the crotch rocket world to the cruiser world like I did, either the Indian Scout or the Rebel 1100 would keep you happy. The only reason why I opted for the Indian is because it has forward controls, which in my opinion makes it more comfortable. My girlfriend has a rebel 500. It’s a great bike, but thanks to the mid controls, it feels a bit sport bike cramped for me.
Can always install forward controls if you want
Have you ridden the Vulcan S. I’m in the market for my first bike and I’m looking at this rebel or the Vulcan S
Rebel 500 (or even 300) is probably a better first bike than the 1100, if for no other reason that they're commonly available used and much cheaper. Your first bike is exceedingly unlikely to be your forever bike, so don't over-think it from a desirability point of view. The first 6 months will alter your perceptions of what it is you want from riding, while being fun no matter what bike you get, so get something that is safe and hassle-free and won't break your heart or your bank if you drop it in a parking lot. And get an insurance quote for that model before you buy, because that can vary wildly and make no sense.
Does jack of all trades include a couple miles of off road to get off a secluded property every day? With minor upgrades?
Every day? I'd get a scrambler or dual-sport. I take my Rebel 1100 on about 100' of gravel road and it does fine doing it slow, but I wouldn't want to do miles of that every day because it would become a chore.