Burned board and batten siding. Yakisugi (焼杉) Yakimatsu (焼松)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Yakisugi (焼杉) Yakimatsu (焼松) Burnt Cladding, burned wood siding, whatever you want to call it, whats not to love? Extremely long lasting, maintenance free, beautiful, full of character, UV proof, insect proof, mold proof, fire resistant, this may be the best covering for a wooden house ever devised!
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My neighbor did this to his siding...and framing...and roof.
...Just kidding his meth lab blew up.
Pretty funny man. Or lady. I don't know
That is hilarious.
lol
Was your neighbor Mr. White?
@mr. Chickadee with this deep burn into a 4/4" boards on one side, what kind of wood movement are you experiencing? Cupping. Warping. Also would be nice to revisit one of your older Yakisugi projects to see how well its aged.
The burned side always dries, notice all the white steam coming off, and therefore contracts.
Its just siding
Thinking the direction of the grain will have more effect on cupping like when laying your deck wood down paying attention to the circular grain.
So bark side towards house. It's wood, its gonna move and stuff which is the appeal and character over sheet or vinyl covers. Great stuff thank you for the inspiration.
The deep burn is not for wood movement but to protect the wood from the elements and insects.
He lives! Glad to see you back Mr. chickadee
I came across this technique a while back somewhere for my cabin, but you’re the first to show it in a comprehensive way, so that I can actually do it myself now. Priceless! Thank you so much for sharing!
Absolutely love the look and design. Simple and functional.
So happy to see you and your wonderful work after so long...Greetings from Chile.☘️🌿🌱🌺
Gonna have to make my own flamer cos I live in nanny state Australia where all the good stuff is illegal...
That process hapen in some poor People's house. They use a plywood tree, called "Embaúba", that wood, split straight in every side, forming planks without Saw. And they burn It to protect. Here on cost side in Brazil.
The CC available at the beginning was masterful. Loved it
Glad you liked it!
I did not know he was using CC. His videos are great but the CC is even better. Thank you for the comment @Anthony Otranto :-) You added a new level to the videos for me.
How many folks you reckon will try to skip the step of taking the boards off the wall?
Unknown, but they will only try it once!
@@RedboneUnincorporated well, some people might not catch on after the first time.
If you want your house to look like this without the work... come to Northern California. :-)
Oh, some black humor won't hurt... or should I say, charred humor?
Now that's what i consider a controlled Burn .
Interesting video. Obviously you know what you are doing and like the process and how it looks. What I don’t understand is how many posts tell you why it won’t work and what will go wrong instead of asking you a question.
That's a deep burn. I would have not been brave enough to burn that long. Thanks for showing this technique.
Poor ants and termites ''you call this well done? This is charred!"
Watching Mr Chikadees side burns for 18 minutes and loving every second. 😂
How much propane did you use for this project. I like the lack of mess by using propane.
I only noticed for the first time, the underneath of the house. What did you do to prevent insect infestation there?
How I'd like my exterior finished. Toasty w a side of butter.
Hello, would you consider making a tour of your premises and everything you've made so far, your garden etc? Maybe even your daily routine. I'm interested in your lifestyle.
Maybe one day!
So awesome to see old world tech used by a new generation. This channel is a treasure.
I had the idea of doing this to my future fencing, instead of painting it black, how deep do you char the wood and how do you tell if the structure is compromised
t-minus five minutes and counting until someone shows up and says it didn't work well with vinyl.
haha!
I did this with my garden boxes instead of buying cedar
Great idea. How is this working out for you? I'm planning on building raised beds with cheap pine and this seems like the way to go.
This is a treat! Such a comprehensive explanation of the process, with multiple examples of how to do it! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
im this deep in the playlist, i realise there is cc.
Hello sir. Can I have a question for you? have you finish your Yakisugi wall with your mixture of Pine tar+turepetin+(canola)oil again like your blacksmith shop wall? Thank you sir and have a great day!
I'm curious with that much char how long does it take for the smell to dissipate?
Was wondering that too. It'd be pretty acrid for sometime I'd say!
after heavy water dosing with that type of wood it'd be gone in minutes
This may sound childish, but every boy needs one, you're my hero. The whole way about you is nature respecting. We need more of that.
松 just means pine or pine tree. 焼 means burnt, burn etc. but 焼松 is not a standard term on its own as far as i can gather. 焼松 is a place name. whilst 焼松 actually describes what youre doing, because youre not using 杉 sugi wood. perhaps 焼松 will appear or has already appeared in the latest dictionaries
All correct sir, some Japanese carpenters told me it could be called 焼松, though no one would really say that haha.
@@MrChickadee yes. theyve suggested that because of all the people using the term 焼杉 on all other kinds of wood, which makes sense because sugi wood isnt widely available?, and youve shown quite expertly that it can and should be used on a variety of other woods. hopefully 焼松 yakimatsu can become a more standard term? who knows. maybe this video will get the term into the mainstream!? loved watching this video thank you very much
Delighted to see Yakimatsu correctly cited for your burned pine; thank you for using the precise Japanese. We’ve enjoyed every minute of this entire build and finish work. Thanks for taking the time to share. You’re an inspiration.
Been trying to talk my hubby into doing this. Looks like we are going to be stuck with vinyl 😞 Time is not our friend, unfortunately. Thanks for sharing and God bless!
Use black vinyl with a char textured finish!
definitely insect proof, I don't want a burnt steak
I'd be the idiot that burned my house down trying this 😂
You should see the lab experiment when the instructor burns a slice of bread. He places the burnt bread on his hand and takes a blow torch and points it right at his hand. No heat transfer. The ultimate fire protection.
Dumb question; If we do not mill our own lumber, how would we know which is the bark side and tree top?
look at the knots and then the end grain of the board, imagine how the tree grew which the board came from. knots tend to point up diagonally from inside to outside of the tree.
@@MrChickadee What happens if you don't follow these two rules (1. bark outside & 2. top pointing upwards)? Will the wood tend to bend?
It seems like the boards would cup after burning, and then screwing down the battens would make them split. Does that happen? It seems also that heat and water would cause a lot of warpage. How much do you allow for that? I find this very scary. Have you ruined a lot of material burning it too much?
the cupping is not so severe with white pine,and it is used to advantage by ensuring all boards cup outwards and press themselves tight to the battens. Ive never had the battens split the wider boards, though they are pretty tight! Ive not ruined any, in fact the only mistakes have been not burning enough, which is an easy fix with a bit more heat.
Always happy when you post a video, its so relaxing to watch your content!
Always happy when i recive the new video notification, gg from Brazil.
Awesome video! You make it look easy to burn the wood and have a even look to all of it. Are you going to add more protection with oiled or stained?
Like your work BUT this is just too much!!🤔🤔 looks like the fire department barely got there in time to put out a house 🔥 lol
That looks really good! last time I worked with soot ended with black snots for days, really fine dust. There's an indigenous ancient tree resin, Copal, that's very handy perhaps for this kind of finish given that it's meltable and super flammable too, actually it was used in the old recopies for wood varnishes. I know this Japanese technique must have its science but I used to fixate the soot to my ceramic sculptures with a blowtorch and brushing over copal dissolved in alcohol, ultra resistant actually for a ceramic material that's hard as glass. Never thought about using it for wood until I saw this video 👍
数年経つと、黒さが薄まってきて良い感じの渋い表面になるのが好き
何年か経ってからどうなったか見たいですな
コレ見ると月桂冠の酒蔵思い出してなつかしい...
Hello Mr. Chickadee and thanks for the astonishing video. I do a lot of charred wood, but I always brush the charring with a non-metallic brush, along the grain. It gives an awesome look and not dirty anymore if you make benches or similar stuff. My question for you, friend : "Do you think it changes something to leave or brush the charring, regarding weather and insect protection. Many thanks from Canada !
I would also like to know that.
I heard for best preservation, you leave it. I bet it might help wick moisture to surface for drying in wet weather. A little.
Oh boy!More Chickadee
16:38 the contrast between the black charred timber and the natural timber window frame is just amazing.
Maybe your wife doesn’t like to be in front of the camera, but have you two ever considered a series of her showing all that she does around your place. Even day-to-day stuff would be very interesting. Just like yours, she would be quietly elegant. It’d be great.
Thanks for sharing. I know of some of your work, you've followed up by brushing a mixture of lindseed oil and pine tar. Any plans to do that here? If not, what dictates when you do follow up with the oil and tar?
Nice video work on the close ups of the fastener details, showing scale of project, and the flow of completion. Beautiful work, as always.
Thank you very much!
Hello 👋 my friend. Peaceful.
I’d love to be a fly on the wall if a vinyl siding salesman made a cold call at the Chickadee place. That would be priceless! LOL! Fantastic job! It’s beautiful!
Nice quilted effect. ...and reminder...NEVER MAKE CHIMNEY OF WOOD....LOL
Just awesome. Thanks for posting all your hard work.
I bought a 1860s workman cottage in Cambridge MA built with salvaged burnt timber’s from other houses. I’m convinced that saved it from termites. Wherever they used non burnt wood there would be termite damage. It was balloon framed so the sill often had rot and the first few inches of studs... which ran 2 flights to the roof plates.
Absolutely. The burnt finish is HIGHLY insect resistant.
I watched again after realizing that I should've turned CC on the first time.
The man is the personification of deliberate concentration. I'll never attain it but thanks for the lesson.
Mr chickadee, we need to have some videos of your wife cooking and some recipes. I need some ideas of healthier lunches to take to work at construction sites
WOW! My mind is torn between "Natural" and "Stealth Fighter" :)
Im suprised on how well controled that chimney fire was
That is a bit too burnt for my taste,I prefer charred so you can see the character of the wood.
That's not charred. That's toasted
So do the insects ;)
Thanks for making this video, and adding all the detailed notes. I plan to use this technique for the exterior of my cabin build. Also good to see it can be done well with pine.
I hope the screws in the cover pieces went between the boards below, and not through them, otherwise there would be screws close to both edges and the certainty of splits developing as boards moved with the seasons.
yes, always between the boards
Does the exterior lighten in color as it ages? I like this, and think it is a really smart way to clad a dwelling, but living in Western Washington State, I think I prefer the look of natural cedar shingles as seen on the coast of Oregon and Washington. However, cost is probably a big factor.
Yes Bc charcoal always turns white over time ,,,, ummmmm
I always enjoy your posts, how you approach each job, such wonderful attention to each element. I'm sure it is enormously gratifying, making for a very content life. I also admire your patience in answering people on here...lol...
How much propane did you use doing this?
bout 3 cans
Curious…what longevity will you achieve with this type of exterior wood treatment vs a liquid wood preservative ? I enjoy your old world techniques…skills and methods that are disappearing as we speak.
Luxurious alligator pattern!Lol Thank you for your posts
Is the wire mesh at the bottom of the wall to keep mice out? I have an old farmhouse in Estill county Ky that needs to be torn down and a new one built. It’s ate up with wood rats. I had been considering a wire mesh barrier to keep them out of the walls.
yes
Is there an easy way to tell the orientation of the boards if you buy them already sawn? What side is the bark side and what is the tree top? Especially if there are no branch knots in the wood
Look at the end of the board, the end grain, imagine the growth ring curves and think how the tree was when the board was removed, it should be easy to tell bark side of the tree, knots point diagonally up and out from heart of tree to top, if no knots, look for difference in sapwood to heartwood ratio, more heartwood at bottom of tree.
@@MrChickadee That makes so much sense, thank you.
Very interesting. I always instinctively paid attention to put the bark side outwards because it seemed natural to have the boards curve towards the house. Makes the whole cover tighter and nicely closes. But I never thought about top and bottom of the tree. Why would that be important and what’s the benefit?
Why not build it and just set fire to it!
so do you treat this after, is this aesthetic or does this actually protect the wood?
The burning actually protects the wood. I have seen some people put a coat of oil on after brushing off some of the char, but not sure if that's how Mr.Chickadeedoes his or not.
it's an ancient Japanese technique that protects the wood from damp, rot and also bugs getting into the raw timber.
It does! Keeps away insects, mold, and rot. Looks awesome too! No need to top coat or anything else.
It protects the wood from rot.
read the description and turn on closed captioning
Could you explain the difference between these terms you have used in various videos for what appears to be the same process? Shou Sugi Ban Yakisugi Yakiita Yakimatsu
Whatever you do I just love watching it.
From what I've read, "shou sugi ban" is an old faulty translation based on the old Chinese pronunciation of the characters and was never used to describe the process. Yakisugi is Japanese cypress treated by the process. Yakiita is the actual process of charring the wood. Yakimatsu seems to be the equivalent of yakisugi, but for pine, since this video is burning pine instead of cypress.
I love this channel so much! The filming & editing is so inspirational to me.
ikr? classy
How about temperature in hot summers, considering its black?
I dare say the char is insulative.
Or at least the wood behind it is indeed insulative, so a little heat accumulated because of the black surface probably doesn’t get through
there is R30 of insulation between this siding and the interior, so it will never effect anything.
As usual all great work and no talk 👍
The bird songs are beautiful, of course your work is too.
The day i build a cabin/house this is my dream.
I am so glad to see that amongst all of this "modern" commotion, that there are some human beings that are living the real dream! thank you for existing.
Is there a residual smell of burnt wood? If so, do you ever detect it on the interior?
Not at all, very soon after burning there is no smell at all. The smell is from the smoke and action of actively burning.
@@MrChickadee Thank you. I asked because I have done a little Raku pottery and the burnt wood smell remains until you seal it. I'm glad to learn this is not the case with wood.
Hello Mr.C,
If this is too personal of a question, no worries. But I was curious how your family provides income. Do you and/or Mrs.C work full time? Seems like you keep a very low cost of living?
Any wisdom you could shed to you audience would be appreciated! Looking wisdom for how to move my family to a more sustainable / independent lifestyle. :)
For now, timber framing classes and youtube/patreon. We live very simply, grow alot of our food, and make most of our things we need. We are very happy living this way, far below the poverty level in the US.
Inarguably the best video to date. This is breathtaking.
I've only seen a furniture finish that's burned and brushed, but nothing like this! That was amazing. I've seen you do this before but not to this extent.
I love the smell of yakisugi yakimatsu in the morning........
Hi! Have you used linseed oil on charred wood? I see you didn’t, there’s no need? Great video as always, greetings from Poland
I have, sometimes mixed with pine tar, sometimes not. With this full burn, I dont really think its needed, especially with 3+ foot overhangs.
@@MrChickadee cheers, waiting for a new video
You say so much with no words.
You have excellent water pressure. What is the source? The triangular chimney fire looks like a rocket launch failure. :-)
He has county water service with excellent pressure.
Fabulous crocodile charring...perfection with this technique! When I did my main cabin I laid the boards flat...so much wasted heat. Building a small sleeping cabin soon and will use this method...thank you. Also love the shot of the stainless steel screws steadily securing the battens and pulling the boards tight.
Kudos to you both.
Now I know why you wear black gloves...
Watch with Captions on.
can I do alder wood like that ?
With the price of Alder being right there or slightly more than cherry, it’s one of those things you can do, but not going to net you any different look than doing this to white pine at half the price.
Completely makes my day when you upload. Thank you!
And rule of thumb on the size of timbers when making a timber frame? I'm going to start a small timber frame next year (12x24) and my sawyer says 6x8". All we have around here is hardwood so a 6x8" oak beams seem a little overkill for such a small build.
Miles, that really all depends on the frame design, type of framing, and other factors. It could be enough, or not enough, or overkill depending on the frame design. My woodshop is 12x15 and has 6x10 tie beams spanning 12 feet. However, my house extension ( the one in this video) has 4x8 tie beams spanning 16 feet! It all depends on the frame design. What loads are the beam supporting? Is it supported by a post underneath or is it free span? what is your snow load? How many of these beams are sharing the load? If there is a beam every 10 feet, or every 5 feet for the same load, that changes everything. See what I mean?
@@MrChickadee There are a lot of unanswered questions I have to look into. Looks like I'll be looking for a class in my local area.
Thank you for the insight!
One of the few channels on youtube from which i like every video before i watch it.
I missed you Mr. chickadee, very nice video. Greetings from The Netherlands
Cool and economical. Your videos are like getting a call from an old friend. An old friend with a great sense of presentation and an eye for composition.
Yeah, his wife has skills.
Love your video nice job 👍… not sure if you’re dropping lots of videos or not but RUclips didn’t even notify me of your video seen this one by chance
Are the thin boards and the wide boards the same wood? They seemed to burn differently
yes
Ну ты и задрот, здоровья тебе и твоим близким 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I really love this and am thinking about using this technique on my own siding I'll be milling up for my home. I was wondering, do you have a certain "recipe" for this, so to speak? I.e. how long does one let the wood burn and if it is timed, how deeply should the char penetrate/when to put the fire out, what type of top coat is applied after process (if any) and is it ok to not use any kind of top coat application. That kind of thing. I would really love to know so I might have more confidence that I'm not going to royally f$%! it up.
Any books to recommend on the topic of Japanese construction that you could recommend?
A very interesting and effective technique. Efficient in the use of propane, too. Thanks!
You know what would be the greatest collab on YT? Mr. Chickadee and Advoko makes, they could build a town with their bare hands 😉