I'll take a stab at this. James - seriously? He had 2 idols at F7. He's guaranteed F5 and F4 if he wins one immunity challenge. However I doubt they let him make FTC and it's not like he wins the balancing dishes challenge. Ozzy - Jason goes home but barring an immunity run which he could definitely go on, he's probably gonna leave soon. BWB had a lock on this season. Jason - Wouldn't even be in the game at this point but he's never making it to the end. Brendan - Honestly could have made a good run at it. Erik - Probably gets booted next, his whole tribe tried to vote him off. However Jaison would have been voted off so I doubt Foa Foa could make a comeback down 8-3. They needed well timed flips from Shambo and John as well as an idol play from Russell at F11. Galu probably endgames and who knows who wins from that. Andrea - Eddie goes out on the revote, I don't think this changes the season much unless Andrea goes on a win streak. Erik still med evaced at F5 and whoever isn't voted out at F6 (Andrea, Brenda) probably goes out at F4. Garrett - Idols out J'Tia, Kass probably goes at the tribal that J'Tia went instead (Spencer and Garrett were teamed) meaning Garrett makes the tribe swap? He probably doesn't have the game sense to go much further than that. John - Idols out Baylor who eventually made F5. I don't think he lasts much longer but maybe Reed/Josh get the upper hand at the merge with Baylor gone instead of Nat/Jeremy? Scot - Aubry and Tai each had 2 votes and would have gone to a revote. My guess is Aubry goes. JT - Probably goes next tribal and Michaela who would have went home if he played his idol wasn't a major player in GC so I don't think it effects much. Chris - Libby goes home, and then Chris would have gone home next, I don't see that affecting the game at all. Also what the hell Chris had an idol good for two tribals and he was obviously the target of Dom's alliance why wouldn't he play it. Aubry - Idols out Wendy. Wendy was voted out next tribal at a rare two-tribe tribal because they figured her tribe wouldn't go to rocks for her. Would they target Aubry here over Vic Gavin Eric? If they do the rest of the season plays out exactly the same since both are premergers either way. Wentworth - Aurora goes but she's on the bottom afterwards without an idol to protect her at F8. I think either she or Wardog go next but I don't see anyone letting her into FTC. Vince - Idols out Karishma, not sure what happens from there. Chelsea - Karishma was also vulnerable here if Chelsea played her idol but Karishma in theory would be out of the game at this point so I guess Chelsea could pick who goes home. Kellee - Had good game sense and I don't think people thought she had two idols, she had a good chance of winning imo. Sophie - If she makes it into F8 she's sitting in a really good spot, it took a majority split vote and a flip from Tony/Nick to make it happen. She was looking like a strong candidate for the win until she got blindsided. Hope I didn't miss any.
@@BrettMKW I'm pretty sure if Aubry played her idol, she sides with David and Wentworth at the double tribal and they take out Victoria. Yeah there is a possibility that the Lesus take out Aubry, but they were already so down in numbers. If Aubry just tells them that she's on the outs with the rest of Kama, why give up a potential number?
@@roger_towny_jr Hmm yeah that's a good take, Aubry could just take out Vic at that tribal rather than sticking with the tribe that just tried to vote her off, I didn't even consider that. That season was hellbent though on getting out the returnees. I believe Chris still comes into the game at F6 and wins his way into the end and I can't imagine a scenario where Vic being out of the game instead of Aubry results in Julie/Gavin not being the FTC goats so I think Chris still wins.
@@BrettMKW Very easy scenario actually. If the four non-edge players at 6 are just smarter and split their vote 2-2 for Devens and Chris, flush Devens Idol out, and vote Chris off in a revote, it very much changes.
@@BrettMKW If Garrett had played his idol, it could have led to the brains tribe winning the basketball immunity challenge where 1) the brawn tribe tried to throw the challenge but couldn't because 2) the brains tribe pretty much only had spencer to be athletic. Swapping Garrett for J'tia here could've changed things a lot here, especially with how that challenge was edited to show J'tia struggling. If having Garrett means that the brawn tribe loses this challenge, I think the brawn tribe wanted to vote Cliff out at this point. Who knows if Lindsey would've still quit here? And the tribes swap after this elimination, so maybe Garrett could've made his game better (although it'd be unlikely given that he hated the survival aspect). I don't know the background for all of these on this list, so I don't know if any others of these were pre-merge situations where tribe performances could've been changed due to having the right team. I wouldn't be surprised if Garrett's situation is the only one where an actual difference could've been made.
@@thedylancorner440 I disagree. Darrah was very good at challenges, but pretty blah as a character, and didn't show herself to be very strategic. She probably had a decent social game, but I think Sandra was better socially & showed more strategic fortitude than Darrah. If anything, Fairplay would have been a higher ranked winner if he somehow managed to convince Lil to keep him over Sandra
something you forgot about panama and cook islands is that terry and yul both had super idols that were usable at the final four, so that means they both don’t have to go to fire and it’s the same result
Joe confirmed in his post show interviews he votes Kelley over Jeremy for sure. He even confirms he and Ciera would have voted Spencer over Jeremy but didn't only since they knew Spencer had no chance, so didn't want to be the ones to spoil someones unanimous win. And while he later said he wouldn't have voted bitter and would have voted Jeremy, I refuse to believe it seeing how he acted at the F4 tribal. I think he votes Kelley or atleast votes Tasha, he does not vote Jeremy if Jeremy votes him out and takes Kelley.
I think it was almost losing Aubry in Koah Rong at 4 (saved by fire making), losing Wentworth at 4, losing David at 4, and losing Tai at 4 all back to back is what really pushed it in conjunction- maybe David was the straw that broke the camel’s back, but there were some big fallen angels (and one almost fallen Angel) in this period
Ozzy probably takes Yul since he knows there is no way on earth Yul doesn't beat Sundra or Becky in fire, and thinks maybe this looks best to the jury that he took his biggest competition. Or maybe if he is self interested enough, I could see him dropping himself down to take on Yul in fire himself. THere is just no point relying on Beckie or Sundra to beat Yul in fire. I am sure after spending 40 days with them, he already knew how abysmal Beckie and Sundra were at camp skill stuff.
Jerri has a chance vs Sandra. She would have J.T, Colby, Coach 100% locked. She only needs to get both Amanda and Danielle which is doable. And while I don't neccessarily believe her I think Candice said post season she votes Jerri if she is in the finals too (and she didn't specify vs Parvati, so I think that means vs Sandra too). Either way Jerri atleat has a good chance. I agree Rob drops himself into fire against Ashley. Or atleast he drops Phillip to do it. No way he puts Natalie against Ashley at fire, which Ashley probably wins, and Ashley probably beats Rob in the jury vote.
I actually think Todd would still be at FTC in that scenario, because Amanda won immunity then, and she was closer to Todd than to Courtney, so she likely takes him and sends Courtney to fire with Denise
In Survivor Marquesas, after this final 4 vote Pascal get sick & is unable to make the next tribal council as a juror. If he is still in the game instead, he would have been medically removed from the game. That leaves the Vecepia and Kathy as your final two. Then Kathy wins hands-down because of a bitter jury. I believe it was John who said during the final tribal council that the best woman was voted out the night before, referring to Kathy. You could see all of the jurors nod in agreement.
But then again, wasn't Kass just second away from beating Woo in the original F3 challenge in Cagayan? I don't know how guranteed it is that Spencer beats her in the challenge very handily.
Yes and I am sure Kass takes Woo over Spencer. She hated Spencer, and she knows Woo is a more beatable person in a jury vote than Spencer. Even in that scenario Woo wins for sure though, there really is no scenario Kass wins the season other than maybe a F2 vs Morgan maybe.
I think kass could win against woo fight me (jk idk i have complicated feelings bc i think kass, as a lawyer, could convince the jury that she played a better game than woo did, which is true. She has the comeback story. As likeable as woo is, he's not playing the 'dominant' game, as this channel likes l to say. Even though the jury would be fully stacked in woo's favor, i'm not entirely sure he wins. I truly don't know. Food for thought.)
@@kat8559 The cast hated Kass so much she was put into solitary confinement for her own protection at Ponderosa, and people refused to sit by her on the plane ride home. As weak as Woo is, there is still no chance in hell he loses to Kass. The jury just won't ever give it to someone they hate this much, game play goes out the window now. Woo cutting Tony would easily be enough justification for the jury (as if they needed any) to give it to Woo in a unanimous or near unanimous vote. The only votes Kass could even possibly ever get are Jeffra and LJ.
@@kat8559 Woo actually wasn't as well-liked as he was portrayed. The cast called him "Weasel Woo" and there's rumors he stole food from production. Even though a lot of the jury did not want to vote for Tony either, he was still more liked and respected than Woo
I think Wentworth wins. Ciera, Abi, Keith, Kimmi, Spencer, and probably Joe vote for Kelley. Savage, Fishbach, Wigglesworth, and Kass vote for Jeremy. Definitely a close vote. Had she won, Wentworth would be on Winners at War
@@sethbryant5539 i do think that spencer votes for jeremy because he said he would’ve been bitter if jeremy voted him out, but spencer would know that it’s firemaking and jeremy technically wouldn’t be voting him out. and i could see keith and kimmi voting for jeremy if he still uses the story of val being pregnant as they’re both parents
Earl, Yau and Dreamz final tribal would honestly be a great final tribal to watch. Had Natalie B won fire and Amanda wins final immunity, if she takes out Parvati, does Amanda win? Would Boston Rob still beat Ashley? The Cagayan part makes me think of Spencer trying to convince Woo to take him over Kass and hard failing. Also we may have had the closest final immunity challenge of all time.
I don't think Ashley makes it to the end in a forced fire scenario either, because Rob likely takes Natalie to the end and lets Ashley and Phillip battle it out, and Phillip seems like he'd be better at firemaking than Ashley would
I think the juror removal in Kaoh Rong plays a factor too. If Cydney winws, which I think she might - she removes a Michele vote and prob wins the game
The problem with this video is you should have talked about the possibility of having a fire making changing at final 3 when the season ended with a final 2. The point of the fire making challenge is a second chance to get into the final tribal council even if you lose final immunity. You wasted your time on those seasons. For example in Season 8, the final 3 Jenna goes against Amber in fire making, and the winner is against Rob for the million. That’s way more interesting to discuss and think about it because it potentially changes the winner of the season
If Season 30 had a forced fire-making challenge, either three different scenarios would have happened: 1. Mike gives immunity to Carolyn or Will and volunteers to face Rodney where Mike slaughters Rodney at the fire-making challenge. 2. Mike saves Will and Carolyn wins the fire-making challenge, defeating Rodney. 3. Mike saves Carolyn and Rodney kicks out Will at the fire-making challenge. In all of these scenarios, Mike still wins the season.
Honestly, I think Brad takes Sarah to final 3. I'm pretty sure Sarah and Brad had a deal where they both exchanged items that were precious to them. And if Brad didn't take Sarah to final 3, Sarah would throw Brad's wedding ring in the ocean.
Sarah confirmed she votes Tai over Brad and Troyzan. It isn't even disputable. I don't see anyway Brad beats Tai. Tai would have Cirie, Michaela, Aubry, Hali (she raised her hand as a Brad vote in the bogus Reunion poll but everyone knows that is BS), Sarah, and Ozzy all locked, so that is 6 votes minimum. I think Andrea probably votes Tai too but it is moot.
35: ben gets voted out 3-1 and devon wins 36: laurel votes angela with wendell and wendell still beats angela in fire 37: kara gets voted out 3-1, same result 38: devens gets voted out 3-1, chris probably still wins 39: lauren gets voted out 3-1, same result 40: sarah votes with tony and its tony vs michelle in fire. tony wins the game if he wins and sarah wins the game if michele wins
I honestly think Kelley wins no matter what if she gets to the final in Cambodia Here are what I think the jury voted would be Jeremy: Fishbach Wigglesworth Savage Kelley: Ciera Kass Abi-Maria And also Spencer because he did say if he was voted out he would make sure Kelley wins And I’m not sure about this but I’m pretty sure she also gets Keith and Kimmi’s vote meaning Kelly has six votes So Joe’s vote doesn’t matter
The problem here is with Spencer...he said he would vote for Kelley but he probably said it only because he wanted Jeremy to keep him...Maybe he votes for Jeremy then anyway...But I think Kelley has Keith and Kimmi 100 %, I think Joe votes for Kelley as well and I am thinking maybe even Savage would vote for Kelley...we saw in Ponderosa he wasn´t bitter at all and he would maybe appreciate a big move against him...
@@TheBajerece True yeah and also Spencer might not vote for Kelley because it’s fire making and he wasn’t voted out but I still think Kelley wins no matter what
For Koah Rong, if Michelle keeps Cydney, Cydney could have won the challenge that allowed Michelle to remove Neil from the jury, thus Cydney could have removed someone else, which would have affected the final vote completely differently...
What if the fire-making challenge happened at the Final 3 in seasons with a Final 2, could have at least a couple more interesting match-ups from that, Ethan vs. Lex, Aras vs. Terry as examples.
Hey I loved this video! I don’t know if you’ll take requests, but I have some ideas for “What if” Videos: What if: Hidden Immunity Idols existed in the first 10 seasons of Survivor. What if: Anything involving re-entry (The Outcasts/Redemption Island/Edge of Extinction) didn’t exist What if: Winners who weren’t on winners at war (Rich, Vecepia, Brian, Jenna, Fabio) were on that season What if: The tribe swaps never happened What if: advantages didn’t exist (extra vote, block a vote, legacy advantage, etc.) What if: Survivor didn’t have immunity challenges What if: Those who gave up immunity didn’t give it up. Hope you like this ideas and keep up the good work!!
@@apecentury228 I know some of them would be really hard to predict, but I think they would be fun to speculate. The one you agree on is a good. Just imagine if Erik Reichenbach didn’t hand the immunity necklace to Natalie Bolton in Micronesia. He might go on to win possibly. And also, imagine if Brandon Hantz held onto immunity in South Pacific. Albert more than likely loses to Ozzy at Redemption Island. And what if Chris Underwood doesn’t take on Rick Devens in the Fire-making challenge. Rick probably wins that season.
@@rolandgreen7484 Personally, I think South Pacific Ozzy overplayed. Had he just voted out Cochran and let Christene beat him at Redemption, she more than likely joins his team at the merge, and he has his solid 6. But he had to make a BIG MOVE that none of his tribe agreed with, and it ultimately lead to the decimation of his entire tribe.
One correction, Im pretty sure Aubry would actually vote Tai in this universe, since she actually liked him a lot despite the fact he wasn't as flashy in the game
I agree with everything here but MvGx. Assuming that they know its forced fire making at f4, I don't think Brett goes out at the f5 because Hannahs whole reasoning for wanting Brett out was to leave David in the game at f4 to be taken out, but if she knows its forced firemaking, I think she votes for David at f5, with the f4 of brett, adam, hannah and ken. Ken wins final immunity, idk who he takes, if adam wins fire he wins, if he loses and its a f3 of brett hannah and ken i think or at least i hope hannah wins that but i rlly dont know much about juries and who they would have voted.
While that would be Hannah's smarter play I think it is unlikely she beats Bret. Bret would have Chris and Sunday locked vs every single person in the cast, he even gets them over David. Jay for sure votes Bret over Hannah, he called Bret as Uncle Bret and hated Hannah. Taylor and Michele probably just vote whoever Jay tells them too in every scenario, so we already at 5 Bret votes. Jessica votes Ken in that F3 100% (and she hated Hannah so if anything she might vote Bret just to ensure Hannah loses) so already there is no way for Hannah to win. Her best case is a 5-4-1 loss. I think Zeke doesn't vote Hannah due to their rivalry, Will probably votes Bret, and I could see David voting Bret too. Hannah probably gets Adam, and that is it.
@@thesolesurvivor35 I mean it isn't that unfortunate. She is one of many players in history that a big part of the reason she made the end in the first place is she/he was seen as a goat. If she isn't seen as a goat, maybe she doesn't make the end anymore, so don't be so sure that is a better scenario for her.
@@douglasbrown5671 again, i wouldnt know who wins in that f3, ill take ur word for it though. even if she thinks she dosent beat bret, i gotta imagine in her head she thinks its her best shot at that point while on the island. also i said its unfortunate cus i think the jury underrated her game. not that its an all time great one, i just think the jury underrated and underappreciated it.
1 Kelly 2 Tina 3 Ethan 4 Cathy 5 Brian 6 Jenna 7 Darrah 8 Amber 9 Chris 10 Tom 11 Rafe 12 Aras 13 Yul 14 Earl 15 Amanda 16 Parvati 17 Bob 18 JT 19 Brett 20 Sandra 21 Fabio 22 Boston Rob 23 Ozzy 24 Kim 25 Malcolm 26 Cochran 27 Tina 28 Spencer 29 Natalie 30 Mike 31 Jeremy 32 Michele 33 David 34 Tai 35 Ben 36 Wendel 37 Nick 38 Chris 39 Tommy and then season 40 changes a lot
It may have made more sense for the final 2 scenarios to do a final 3 fire making challenge. (Except for maybe final 4 still Micronesia and Cagayan since they were surprise final 2s)
Have you done a video that talked about what would’ve happened if the forced final 4 fire making challenge didn’t exist from HHH onward and instead was a vote? If not, I really think that would be a nice contrast to this video.
Here’s the thing about Russell taking a goat, the first time he would take Natalie but next season he would know that he messed his last time and might take Parvati, or maybe he decides to take Jerri
He considers a runner-up anyone who made final tribal and lost in Survivor. Since each season of the race ended with a final three, maybe he would only consider second place, but I wouldn’t bet on it
In Game Changers, it was confirmed that if Sarah is not in FTC, then Tai and Brad each get 5 votes. This means Troyzan becomes the last jury member and he votes Brad for the win. So as much as I would love for Tai to win, it's just not the case.
Another idiot who actually believes Reunion show polls which are wrong 99 times out of 100 per the very casts who do them. That was 5-5 with Hali raising her hand as a Brad vote (haha such bullshit and she even admited after it was bull and she never votes Brad), and Andrea voting Brad (also very unlikely) so by that alone we know Tai wins, and I hate both Tai and Brad so couldn't care myself. Ozzy and Sarah confirming they vote Tai over Brad, means there is no chance Brad wins.
@@grantdesjardins764 Why would you not believe reunion show polls when its live television? Also, why are you selecting certain cast members words over others? You said, "Well Ozzy and Sarah said.... so it must be true."
@@apecentury228 Since Ozzy and Sarah are votes you would expect Brad to get over Tai. He needs them to ever beat Tai. If he isn't getting them then it is all over. It is a proven fact reunion show polls are almost always wrong, per the cast members of each season themselves. You are probably 12 years old and just started watching Survivor since someone informed would already know that. Here is a history of bogus reunion show results: Pearl Islands- The Reunion poll had Lil beating Fairplay. The cast then admited later that same night Fairplay crushes Lil with only Rupert and maybe Christa voting Lil, and that Fairplay probably beats Sandra 4-3. The story came out later they were begged by Probst to give Lil a fake win at the Reunion poll so she wouldn't cry and cause them to delay like she did during FTC. All Stars- The Reunion poll had Rob beating Jenna 4-3. It was later proven this was wrong with Kathy admiting she for sure votes Jenna over Rob (or anyone but Amber over Rob) even though she raised her hand for Rob at the bogus Reunion poll, while Rupert's vote was up in the air at best. Guatemala- The Reunion poll had Rafe beating Danni 5-2, while the cast later admited that was a lie and Judd and Jamie for sure are voting Danni, and Lydia probably does too, with Danni winning 5-2 or 4-3. Fiji- The Reunion poll had Yau Man beating Earl 6-3 when the cast all admited after Earl really wins over Yau Man pretty easily with only 2 or 3 people voting Yau Man. San Juan Del Sur- The Reunion poll had Keith beating Natalie, and the cast later admited Keith probably doesn't even win a F3 with Jaclyn and Missy, let alone beat Natalie. Worlds Apart- The Reunion poll had Rodney beating Mike, while the cast admited after Mike still wins. Jenn, Joe, Hali, all admited to lying in the Reunion poll after the Reunion (you know the exact same Hali who was obviously lying in the Game Changers poll too, lol). Koah Rong- The Reunion poll had Cydney beating Michele, which was later confirmed to be false, unless Cydney wins the jury removal challenge but the Reunion poll had her winning even losing that. Nicaragua- The Reunion poll had Holly winning if she made F3, then the cast confirmed post show she doesn't beat either Fabio or Chase. Phillippines- The Reunion poll had Denise beating Malcolm, which the cast later confirmed to be false with Pete, Penner, Carter admited they lied about voting Denise to screw with Malcolm for fun. Probst also asked them to do that for TV purposes. South Pacific- They had Coach winning if Sophie was not there, then later admited Coach definitely isn't winning even if Sophie isn't there, unless he is against some combo of Albert, Cochran, or Edna. He does not beat Rick or Brandon as the Reunion poll implied. I am probably forgetting some, but literally the only times Probst did a Reunion poll where they gave an honest result they didn't rebuke themselves after was Marquesas with Kathy winning over both Vecepia and Neleh, Matty winning Gabon, Terry winning Panama over either Aras or Danielle, and maybe Amazon with Rob winning over Jenna M. As for why they often lie in the Reunion poll there are dozens of reasons, most of all that Probst probably asks them to claim a certain result for good TV, or bullies them to pick his favorite beforehand.
And in this case it would be super obvious why Probst would want a tie at his annual bogus Reunion poll. He wanted a chance to expose what the new tiebreaker was for the audience. Which would soon be seen for real in Season 36. I forget if Season 36 had filmed or not at the time, but if it had even more reason.
@@grantdesjardins764 Well I'm not 12, actually about to be 22 and a longtime fanatic for years. I know a lot about every season, I have full rankings on all winners, seasons, idol plays. I genuinely did not know about the reunion shows because I usually skipped them, but I have gone back to watch most of them. I did not know Jeff asked the contestants favors but it now makes sense for TV purposes. You learn something new every day. So for the Game Changers one, Tai would have won? Because I think Brad does get Ozzy and Sarah's vote, as well as Sierra and Debbie's. Tai has 5 locked votes. The only one questionable is Hali, so it's either 6-4 or 5-5. If Tai does win, it's basically Brad deciding who to give the million to. Also, where are you finding info post-reunion show? If it's social media, I don't follow that so it'd make sense why I didn't know.
11:45 Was he? I think he didn’t vote for Yul at the final four, because Yul had that hidden immunity idol that could be played after the votes were read
I think the biggest issue for Kaoh Rong in this what if is the juror removal. Assuming Aubry is the final boot, who does Michele (or maybe Cydney) think is a vote that won’t go for them?
Yes and Cydney would definitely remove Scot. Cydney has a good chance of winning the jury removal. And even if she doesn't the poster is an idiot to think Joe would vote Cydney over Michele. Aubry would determine who Joe votes for, which is never Michelle, which is either Cydney or Tai, more likely Cydney as I am sure she knows she is more likely to win over Michele.
@@rolandgreen7484 i dont see how Tai has Scot or Jason locked especially after not giving up the idol for the super idol play. Scot and Jason’s Votes for michelle were part for michelle and the rest of if was anti aubrey/tai. If its them three, they cant do an anti vote for all three and I’m guessing they dont vote for who burned them and caused Scot’s elim, and clearly they werent Voting Aubry either. We have no clue who Julia votes for, Neil probably votes Aubry still, Nick was anti michelle and he goes either Cyd or Aubry. Debbie votes for either Cyd or Aubry, Michelle probably votes for Cyd. So its way more possible for Cyd to win than you think. Cyd’s game was up there strategically with Aubry but also played a way better social, which is how michelle won over aubry
if tony doesn't win Cagayan I see him playing every time he can Cambodia, game-changers, the edge of extinction if he wins any of these seasons he's on winners at war with a smaller or larger target who knows
This could be an unpopular opinion but I think the Final Four forced fire-making challenge should no longer be used unless the vote is tied because the person with immunity is given excessive influence and is unfair without a 2-2 tie at the vote. The show needs to bring back the Final Four vote and only use the fire-making challenge if the vote is tied.
I think it would’ve been better to assume all final 2s become final 3s in this format. After a fire making challenge it seems silly to go back to a vote again just to eliminate another.
I hate the final four fire making challenge more than any other twist. I haven't even been able to enjoy the last few years of the show knowing it ends with such a production-interference type of twist to save Jeff's favourites. I hope they just go back to voting at the final four.
Jerri would've definitely won vs Sandra. She would've had Coach, Colby, Amanda, JT. Sandra would've had Courtney, Parvati, Rupert. Candice and Danielle are the two ?? I'm not sure about, but chances are this is where Sandra's previous winner status would hurt her chances.
Tyson vs Tina. Tyson probably still wins. Ciera, Hayden, and Caleb confirmed they vote Tyson for sure. Monica or Gervase obviously does. Not sure who Laura votes for but best case it is 4-4 if Laura, Vytas, Aras, Katie all vote Tina, and Monica or Gervase still give the win to Tyson in the tiebreaker.
Who knows. She might secretly hope Missy is taken out by either Natalie or Keith in fire, since she thinks she can get Baylor's vote if Missy is gone, and also hoping Keith and Natalie split a lot of votes to give her a better chance.
People always say that Fabio is one of the worst winners, but doesn't the fact that he probably beats everyone in the final 4 make him one of the best...?
Well Tina, Ethan, Brian, Jenna, Sandra, Chris, Tom, Danni, Yul, Earl, Todd, Bob, J.T, Sandra (again), Kim, Cochran, Tyson, Natalie A, Mike, Michele, Sarah, Wendell, Nick, Ben, Tony all beat everyone in the Final 4 too. Additionaly Amber, Parvati, Boston Rob, Tommy, Chris, Denise might beat everyone in the Final 4 too but they are less sure as Amber could lose to Rupert, Parvati could lose to Cirie, Rob could lose to Ashley, Tommy could lose to Lauren, Chris could lose to Rick, and Denise might lose to Malcolm, but they are all atleast possible too. So no that does not make him one of the best.
@@sethbryant5539 Holly doesn't even beat Chase. She probably even loses a final 2 to sash. Some of your ideologies are very bad on this video. no offense.
@@danieln.9135 Why would I take offense to that, bitch? Let’s just go through it Fabio-Sash Benry-Holly Chase-Holly Brenda-Holly Dan-Sash Marty-Sash Purple Kelly-Sash Jane-Sash? NaOnka-Holly I would guess Sash wins 5-4 with Alina off the jury, but it’s not a guarantee. I do think Fabio wins against everyone at final 5, but some are close votes like the real-life scenario
Just one thing I think that’s wrong with the koah rong vote what about the voting off a jury member challenge who would win that and do you think the results of what you said would be the same.
If spencer wins cagayan i think tony might be on Cambodia and i don't thinl he would wins the cambodia and i thinl he probably get voted out early like game changers and tony probably also gotta go to game changers and i think he might learn from his mistake and i think he might win if he play in game changers like how he play in winner at war and if he do then i think theres a high chance he will win game changers he and sarah would still be in a alliance,he will still be in winner at war and i won't doubt spencer would also be in waw too and idk if tony will win WaW.
There is a decent chance Pascal gets evacuated should he survive the F4 tribal. So Kathy wins. Also a chance Cydney wins the juror removal and she likely eliminates Scott or Jason I would think.
Cydney wins over Michele anyway. The poster is so wrong on Joe voting Michele over Cydney. First off Joe would always vote for who Aubry wanted. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. That alone ensures he votes Cydney over Michele. He even probably votes Tai over Michele, since again that is what Aubry would prefer, although I am pretty sure Aubry picks Cydney over Tai in this F3 as she wants to make sure who is more likely to beat Michele.
Another video where he continues the narrative that Aras beats Cirie when he absolutely does not as confirmed by Aras. Working on I think 4 of these instances? I wonder how many more times he'll continue to repeat this.
I hate Aras and love Cirie, but I think it is very possile Aras beats Cirie. And it does not matter if Aras claims he doesn't, many people claim they don't beat their friend to be humble or they are just wrong. Sally and Austin say they vote Terry over everyone hands down, and Aras next since they only care about physical abilities. Terry has confirmed he always votes Aras since he has the same mindset as far as jury voting. So if we assume Danielle, Bruce, Shane (who was super bitter at both, so not even a sure Cirie vote) all voting Cirie, it comes down to Courtney who is the biggest wild card ever. The only thing we know about Courtney is she votes Shane in every F2, and votes Terry (due to being bitter) over anyone but Shane, but her votes in every other scenario are up in the air, apart from we know her voting Aras over Danielle only since we saw it.
an interesting one would be: what if everyone who got voted out with an idol in their pocket actually played their idol (james, ozzy, andrea, etc)
I'll take a stab at this.
James - seriously? He had 2 idols at F7. He's guaranteed F5 and F4 if he wins one immunity challenge. However I doubt they let him make FTC and it's not like he wins the balancing dishes challenge.
Ozzy - Jason goes home but barring an immunity run which he could definitely go on, he's probably gonna leave soon. BWB had a lock on this season.
Jason - Wouldn't even be in the game at this point but he's never making it to the end.
Brendan - Honestly could have made a good run at it.
Erik - Probably gets booted next, his whole tribe tried to vote him off. However Jaison would have been voted off so I doubt Foa Foa could make a comeback down 8-3. They needed well timed flips from Shambo and John as well as an idol play from Russell at F11. Galu probably endgames and who knows who wins from that.
Andrea - Eddie goes out on the revote, I don't think this changes the season much unless Andrea goes on a win streak. Erik still med evaced at F5 and whoever isn't voted out at F6 (Andrea, Brenda) probably goes out at F4.
Garrett - Idols out J'Tia, Kass probably goes at the tribal that J'Tia went instead (Spencer and Garrett were teamed) meaning Garrett makes the tribe swap? He probably doesn't have the game sense to go much further than that.
John - Idols out Baylor who eventually made F5. I don't think he lasts much longer but maybe Reed/Josh get the upper hand at the merge with Baylor gone instead of Nat/Jeremy?
Scot - Aubry and Tai each had 2 votes and would have gone to a revote. My guess is Aubry goes.
JT - Probably goes next tribal and Michaela who would have went home if he played his idol wasn't a major player in GC so I don't think it effects much.
Chris - Libby goes home, and then Chris would have gone home next, I don't see that affecting the game at all. Also what the hell Chris had an idol good for two tribals and he was obviously the target of Dom's alliance why wouldn't he play it.
Aubry - Idols out Wendy. Wendy was voted out next tribal at a rare two-tribe tribal because they figured her tribe wouldn't go to rocks for her. Would they target Aubry here over Vic Gavin Eric? If they do the rest of the season plays out exactly the same since both are premergers either way.
Wentworth - Aurora goes but she's on the bottom afterwards without an idol to protect her at F8. I think either she or Wardog go next but I don't see anyone letting her into FTC.
Vince - Idols out Karishma, not sure what happens from there.
Chelsea - Karishma was also vulnerable here if Chelsea played her idol but Karishma in theory would be out of the game at this point so I guess Chelsea could pick who goes home.
Kellee - Had good game sense and I don't think people thought she had two idols, she had a good chance of winning imo.
Sophie - If she makes it into F8 she's sitting in a really good spot, it took a majority split vote and a flip from Tony/Nick to make it happen. She was looking like a strong candidate for the win until she got blindsided.
Hope I didn't miss any.
@@BrettMKW I'm pretty sure if Aubry played her idol, she sides with David and Wentworth at the double tribal and they take out Victoria.
Yeah there is a possibility that the Lesus take out Aubry, but they were already so down in numbers. If Aubry just tells them that she's on the outs with the rest of Kama, why give up a potential number?
@@roger_towny_jr Hmm yeah that's a good take, Aubry could just take out Vic at that tribal rather than sticking with the tribe that just tried to vote her off, I didn't even consider that. That season was hellbent though on getting out the returnees. I believe Chris still comes into the game at F6 and wins his way into the end and I can't imagine a scenario where Vic being out of the game instead of Aubry results in Julie/Gavin not being the FTC goats so I think Chris still wins.
@@BrettMKW Very easy scenario actually.
If the four non-edge players at 6 are just smarter and split their vote 2-2 for Devens and Chris, flush Devens Idol out, and vote Chris off in a revote, it very much changes.
@@BrettMKW If Garrett had played his idol, it could have led to the brains tribe winning the basketball immunity challenge where 1) the brawn tribe tried to throw the challenge but couldn't because 2) the brains tribe pretty much only had spencer to be athletic. Swapping Garrett for J'tia here could've changed things a lot here, especially with how that challenge was edited to show J'tia struggling. If having Garrett means that the brawn tribe loses this challenge, I think the brawn tribe wanted to vote Cliff out at this point. Who knows if Lindsey would've still quit here? And the tribes swap after this elimination, so maybe Garrett could've made his game better (although it'd be unlikely given that he hated the survival aspect).
I don't know the background for all of these on this list, so I don't know if any others of these were pre-merge situations where tribe performances could've been changed due to having the right team. I wouldn't be surprised if Garrett's situation is the only one where an actual difference could've been made.
Rob C: I don't think all the firewood in the forest is gonna keep your torch lit tonight.
Butch: Wanna bet?
This is an alternate universe thats while interesting I'd never want to exist
Agreed, very interesting idea, but we wouldn’t want that to exist.
TheTramayne J And sadly it does exist now which is beyond stupid
Any alternate timeline where Keith wins, is the best timeline.
I mean, seeing Rupert as the likely winner of All Stars would have been a pretty decent ending to the season
I think that if Rupert can keep his hand above his hand for 6 hours he can stand on a pedestal for 10-12. Also imagine Darrah winning 🤣😂
Darrah would be a better winner than Sandra in a winner ranking
*His head. In All-Stars it only went 2 hours when Rupert dropped and Shii Ann won. You’re thinking of Micronesia where it went over 6 six hours
@@thedylancorner440 I disagree. Darrah was very good at challenges, but pretty blah as a character, and didn't show herself to be very strategic. She probably had a decent social game, but I think Sandra was better socially & showed more strategic fortitude than Darrah. If anything, Fairplay would have been a higher ranked winner if he somehow managed to convince Lil to keep him over Sandra
@@thedylancorner440 spoken like someone who doesn’t understand the game of survivor and the fact that the social game is the most important part
@@thedylancorner440 ya Darrah had no power in the game and was just used as a vote to get rid of Rupert, Crista and Burton.
something you forgot about panama and cook islands is that terry and yul both had super idols that were usable at the final four, so that means they both don’t have to go to fire and it’s the same result
if the fire making twist is there production probably expires the idols at f5
@@tdt8854you would think but in Cook Islands it got Yul to the final 3 and it was a final 3 tribal council. It was broken af.
Joe confirmed in his post show interviews he votes Kelley over Jeremy for sure. He even confirms he and Ciera would have voted Spencer over Jeremy but didn't only since they knew Spencer had no chance, so didn't want to be the ones to spoil someones unanimous win. And while he later said he wouldn't have voted bitter and would have voted Jeremy, I refuse to believe it seeing how he acted at the F4 tribal. I think he votes Kelley or atleast votes Tasha, he does not vote Jeremy if Jeremy votes him out and takes Kelley.
You underestimate Tina with firemaking.
I think it was almost losing Aubry in Koah Rong at 4 (saved by fire making), losing Wentworth at 4, losing David at 4, and losing Tai at 4 all back to back is what really pushed it in conjunction- maybe David was the straw that broke the camel’s back, but there were some big fallen angels (and one almost fallen Angel) in this period
27:29 I saw a comment once that said that "this tribal was essentially Hannah and Ken deciding who to lose against."
You forgot to acknowledge the juror removal of Koah Rong
*Kaoh Rong
I could definitely see Yul pulling off a Tommy tricking Noura or a Tony convincing Woo in Cook Islands and getting Ozzy to take him.
Ozzy probably takes Yul since he knows there is no way on earth Yul doesn't beat Sundra or Becky in fire, and thinks maybe this looks best to the jury that he took his biggest competition. Or maybe if he is self interested enough, I could see him dropping himself down to take on Yul in fire himself. THere is just no point relying on Beckie or Sundra to beat Yul in fire. I am sure after spending 40 days with them, he already knew how abysmal Beckie and Sundra were at camp skill stuff.
Cambodia - Joe decides the winner
Koah Rong (one season later) - Joe decides the winner
Jerri has a chance vs Sandra. She would have J.T, Colby, Coach 100% locked. She only needs to get both Amanda and Danielle which is doable. And while I don't neccessarily believe her I think Candice said post season she votes Jerri if she is in the finals too (and she didn't specify vs Parvati, so I think that means vs Sandra too). Either way Jerri atleat has a good chance.
I agree Rob drops himself into fire against Ashley. Or atleast he drops Phillip to do it. No way he puts Natalie against Ashley at fire, which Ashley probably wins, and Ashley probably beats Rob in the jury vote.
I think Courtney wins China. Let's not forget that Todd was able to pull votes for him because of his stellar FT performance.
I actually think Todd would still be at FTC in that scenario, because Amanda won immunity then, and she was closer to Todd than to Courtney, so she likely takes him and sends Courtney to fire with Denise
Been waiting
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These what if videos are my favorite videos from you, they have so much interesting speculation. I love it
In Survivor Marquesas, after this final 4 vote Pascal get sick & is unable to make the next tribal council as a juror. If he is still in the game instead, he would have been medically removed from the game. That leaves the Vecepia and Kathy as your final two. Then Kathy wins hands-down because of a bitter jury. I believe it was John who said during the final tribal council that the best woman was voted out the night before, referring to Kathy. You could see all of the jurors nod in agreement.
I wouldn't say it would be a bitter jury that awarded Kathy the win, because they all really did seem to respect her as a player
@@NYChica23 I meant bitter towards Nehla and Vee. Sorry about that.
For seasons with a final two, it would be more analogous to look at forced fire at final three
But then again, wasn't Kass just second away from beating Woo in the original F3 challenge in Cagayan? I don't know how guranteed it is that Spencer beats her in the challenge very handily.
Yes and I am sure Kass takes Woo over Spencer. She hated Spencer, and she knows Woo is a more beatable person in a jury vote than Spencer. Even in that scenario Woo wins for sure though, there really is no scenario Kass wins the season other than maybe a F2 vs Morgan maybe.
I think kass could win against woo fight me (jk idk i have complicated feelings bc i think kass, as a lawyer, could convince the jury that she played a better game than woo did, which is true. She has the comeback story. As likeable as woo is, he's not playing the 'dominant' game, as this channel likes l to say. Even though the jury would be fully stacked in woo's favor, i'm not entirely sure he wins. I truly don't know. Food for thought.)
@@kat8559 The cast hated Kass so much she was put into solitary confinement for her own protection at Ponderosa, and people refused to sit by her on the plane ride home. As weak as Woo is, there is still no chance in hell he loses to Kass. The jury just won't ever give it to someone they hate this much, game play goes out the window now. Woo cutting Tony would easily be enough justification for the jury (as if they needed any) to give it to Woo in a unanimous or near unanimous vote. The only votes Kass could even possibly ever get are Jeffra and LJ.
@@kat8559 Woo actually wasn't as well-liked as he was portrayed. The cast called him "Weasel Woo" and there's rumors he stole food from production. Even though a lot of the jury did not want to vote for Tony either, he was still more liked and respected than Woo
9:44 It’s also good to know that in this era of Survivor, the final immunity challenge was endurance-based
Kass has gone on to say that she would have voted for Jeremy over Wentworth and Jeremy would have won
I think Wentworth wins.
Ciera, Abi, Keith, Kimmi, Spencer, and probably Joe vote for Kelley. Savage, Fishbach, Wigglesworth, and Kass vote for Jeremy. Definitely a close vote. Had she won, Wentworth would be on Winners at War
@@sethbryant5539 i do think that spencer votes for jeremy because he said he would’ve been bitter if jeremy voted him out, but spencer would know that it’s firemaking and jeremy technically wouldn’t be voting him out. and i could see keith and kimmi voting for jeremy if he still uses the story of val being pregnant as they’re both parents
Most of the jurors said they would vote Jerri to win if it did happen, but I don’t remember where I heard that
20:05 I think she saves Sabrina. She stated in final tribal that she would vote out Chelsea in a final 2
Earl, Yau and Dreamz final tribal would honestly be a great final tribal to watch.
Had Natalie B won fire and Amanda wins final immunity, if she takes out Parvati, does Amanda win?
Would Boston Rob still beat Ashley?
The Cagayan part makes me think of Spencer trying to convince Woo to take him over Kass and hard failing. Also we may have had the closest final immunity challenge of all time.
I don't think Ashley makes it to the end in a forced fire scenario either, because Rob likely takes Natalie to the end and lets Ashley and Phillip battle it out, and Phillip seems like he'd be better at firemaking than Ashley would
I think the juror removal in Kaoh Rong plays a factor too. If Cydney winws, which I think she might - she removes a Michele vote and prob wins the game
The problem with this video is you should have talked about the possibility of having a fire making changing at final 3 when the season ended with a final 2. The point of the fire making challenge is a second chance to get into the final tribal council even if you lose final immunity. You wasted your time on those seasons. For example in Season 8, the final 3 Jenna goes against Amber in fire making, and the winner is against Rob for the million. That’s way more interesting to discuss and think about it because it potentially changes the winner of the season
Eddie was a fireman, so I’m pretty sure he would be able to easily beat Sherri in firemaking
A fireman doesn't make fire. They extinguish fires. 😂 Imagine if Sherri beat him
@@francesca-selfproclaimed-bleep Firemen still know the science of how to make a fire, especially against someone like Sherri
If Season 30 had a forced fire-making challenge, either three different scenarios would have happened:
1. Mike gives immunity to Carolyn or Will and volunteers to face Rodney where Mike slaughters Rodney at the fire-making challenge.
2. Mike saves Will and Carolyn wins the fire-making challenge, defeating Rodney.
3. Mike saves Carolyn and Rodney kicks out Will at the fire-making challenge.
In all of these scenarios, Mike still wins the season.
Yess I’ve wanted this one for awhile great video man!!
Honestly, I think Brad takes Sarah to final 3. I'm pretty sure Sarah and Brad had a deal where they both exchanged items that were precious to them. And if Brad didn't take Sarah to final 3, Sarah would throw Brad's wedding ring in the ocean.
Sarah confirmed she votes Tai over Brad and Troyzan. It isn't even disputable. I don't see anyway Brad beats Tai. Tai would have Cirie, Michaela, Aubry, Hali (she raised her hand as a Brad vote in the bogus Reunion poll but everyone knows that is BS), Sarah, and Ozzy all locked, so that is 6 votes minimum. I think Andrea probably votes Tai too but it is moot.
Surely in this context Dreamz would save Yau-Man to hold up their deal (because this wouldn't make him vulnerable).
I like Fire Making. Gives two people one last chance to fight for their safety.
Next you should do if the final 4 fire making in seasons 35-40 were a regular vote
35: ben gets voted out 3-1 and devon wins
36: laurel votes angela with wendell and wendell still beats angela in fire
37: kara gets voted out 3-1, same result
38: devens gets voted out 3-1, chris probably still wins
39: lauren gets voted out 3-1, same result
40: sarah votes with tony and its tony vs michelle in fire. tony wins the game if he wins and sarah wins the game if michele wins
Tina is great at firemaking and would win BvW
I honestly think Kelley wins no matter what if she gets to the final in Cambodia
Here are what I think the jury voted would be
Jeremy:
Fishbach
Wigglesworth
Savage
Kelley:
Ciera
Kass
Abi-Maria
And also Spencer because he did say if he was voted out he would make sure Kelley wins
And I’m not sure about this but I’m pretty sure she also gets Keith and Kimmi’s vote meaning Kelly has six votes
So Joe’s vote doesn’t matter
The problem here is with Spencer...he said he would vote for Kelley but he probably said it only because he wanted Jeremy to keep him...Maybe he votes for Jeremy then anyway...But I think Kelley has Keith and Kimmi 100 %, I think Joe votes for Kelley as well and I am thinking maybe even Savage would vote for Kelley...we saw in Ponderosa he wasn´t bitter at all and he would maybe appreciate a big move against him...
@@TheBajerece True yeah and also Spencer might not vote for Kelley because it’s fire making and he wasn’t voted out but I still think Kelley wins no matter what
For Koah Rong, if Michelle keeps Cydney, Cydney could have won the challenge that allowed Michelle to remove Neil from the jury, thus Cydney could have removed someone else, which would have affected the final vote completely differently...
What if the fire-making challenge happened at the Final 3 in seasons with a Final 2, could have at least a couple more interesting match-ups from that, Ethan vs. Lex, Aras vs. Terry as examples.
Interesting!
Jerri would beat Sandra.
I love Bob. But if Matty made it to the final, I think he’d win.
Hey I loved this video! I don’t know if you’ll take requests, but I have some ideas for “What if” Videos:
What if: Hidden Immunity Idols existed in the first 10 seasons of Survivor.
What if: Anything involving re-entry (The Outcasts/Redemption Island/Edge of Extinction) didn’t exist
What if: Winners who weren’t on winners at war (Rich, Vecepia, Brian, Jenna, Fabio) were on that season
What if: The tribe swaps never happened
What if: advantages didn’t exist (extra vote, block a vote, legacy advantage, etc.)
What if: Survivor didn’t have immunity challenges
What if: Those who gave up immunity didn’t give it up.
Hope you like this ideas and keep up the good work!!
The only one I think could be made into a video is "What if: Those who gave up immunity didn’t give it up." The other ones seem impossible to predict
@@apecentury228 I know some of them would be really hard to predict, but I think they would be fun to speculate.
The one you agree on is a good. Just imagine if Erik Reichenbach didn’t hand the immunity necklace to Natalie Bolton in Micronesia. He might go on to win possibly.
And also, imagine if Brandon Hantz held onto immunity in South Pacific. Albert more than likely loses to Ozzy at Redemption Island.
And what if Chris Underwood doesn’t take on Rick Devens in the Fire-making challenge. Rick probably wins that season.
what if ozzy did a chris underwood and made fire against yul
I could see ozzy doing this
I don't see 24-year-old Ozzy being that smart.
@@rolandgreen7484 Personally, I think South Pacific Ozzy overplayed.
Had he just voted out Cochran and let Christene beat him at Redemption, she more than likely joins his team at the merge, and he has his solid 6. But he had to make a BIG MOVE that none of his tribe agreed with, and it ultimately lead to the decimation of his entire tribe.
@@rolandgreen7484 I think the decimation of his tribe ended up being better for Ozzy
If Spencer beats Tony, he wouldn't be at second chance, which is pretty interesting
If the other tribe wins last pre merge challenge
Dreamz for sure saves Yau, he keeps his deal and stays in the game. Earl wins fire making and the season.
What if quitters never quit
One correction, Im pretty sure Aubry would actually vote Tai in this universe, since she actually liked him a lot despite the fact he wasn't as flashy in the game
love it
Great video, thank you so much! 🏝
Why say the Cagayan final challenge is obviously between Woo and Spencer? Kass literally lost by a second.
She would also beat spencer by a mile when it comes to final tribal. She's a lawyer.
Idk i just get a weird feeling from this channel when it comes to undervaluing women and over-valuing pure physical strength.
Woo still beat Kass, and having Spencer there instead of Tony wouldn’t change that
Kass loses to whoever she would pick so it doesn't really matter
@@kat8559 dude shut up
18:53 I was thinking that just before you said it lol because he is a god at making fire
My favorite series!
I would have liked it if Spencer won Cagayan. He's probably one of the most liked players to ever play Survivor.
4:51 my 2 favorite players in a fire challenge
I agree with everything here but MvGx. Assuming that they know its forced fire making at f4, I don't think Brett goes out at the f5 because Hannahs whole reasoning for wanting Brett out was to leave David in the game at f4 to be taken out, but if she knows its forced firemaking, I think she votes for David at f5, with the f4 of brett, adam, hannah and ken. Ken wins final immunity, idk who he takes, if adam wins fire he wins, if he loses and its a f3 of brett hannah and ken i think or at least i hope hannah wins that but i rlly dont know much about juries and who they would have voted.
I’m pretty sure Bret wins lol. I think Hannah and Ken were the two biggest goats out there and Hanna maybe only beats will
@@shamusshannan5854 i wouldnt know i dont look into jury stuff :p Its unfortunate they viewed Hannah as a goat though
While that would be Hannah's smarter play I think it is unlikely she beats Bret. Bret would have Chris and Sunday locked vs every single person in the cast, he even gets them over David. Jay for sure votes Bret over Hannah, he called Bret as Uncle Bret and hated Hannah. Taylor and Michele probably just vote whoever Jay tells them too in every scenario, so we already at 5 Bret votes. Jessica votes Ken in that F3 100% (and she hated Hannah so if anything she might vote Bret just to ensure Hannah loses) so already there is no way for Hannah to win. Her best case is a 5-4-1 loss. I think Zeke doesn't vote Hannah due to their rivalry, Will probably votes Bret, and I could see David voting Bret too. Hannah probably gets Adam, and that is it.
@@thesolesurvivor35 I mean it isn't that unfortunate. She is one of many players in history that a big part of the reason she made the end in the first place is she/he was seen as a goat. If she isn't seen as a goat, maybe she doesn't make the end anymore, so don't be so sure that is a better scenario for her.
@@douglasbrown5671 again, i wouldnt know who wins in that f3, ill take ur word for it though. even if she thinks she dosent beat bret, i gotta imagine in her head she thinks its her best shot at that point while on the island. also i said its unfortunate cus i think the jury underrated her game. not that its an all time great one, i just think the jury underrated and underappreciated it.
Interesting idea for sure
To be honest, I actually like the fire making challenge as long as the season is a final 3.
Even with the fire-making challenge, I don’t think Boston Rob gives up the immunity necklace
1 Kelly
2 Tina
3 Ethan
4 Cathy
5 Brian
6 Jenna
7 Darrah
8 Amber
9 Chris
10 Tom
11 Rafe
12 Aras
13 Yul
14 Earl
15 Amanda
16 Parvati
17 Bob
18 JT
19 Brett
20 Sandra
21 Fabio
22 Boston Rob
23 Ozzy
24 Kim
25 Malcolm
26 Cochran
27 Tina
28 Spencer
29 Natalie
30 Mike
31 Jeremy
32 Michele
33 David
34 Tai
35 Ben
36 Wendel
37 Nick
38 Chris
39 Tommy
and then season 40 changes a lot
It may have made more sense for the final 2 scenarios to do a final 3 fire making challenge. (Except for maybe final 4 still Micronesia and Cagayan since they were surprise final 2s)
Was Tocantins also supposed to be a final 3?
@@sethbryant5539 I don’t think so. They tend to not plan on final 3s on 16 player seasons.
Do what if the winner was eliminated at final tribal council
Can you please do a big brother, what if the Final head of household chose the other person, that could be interesting
Idea for before you do repping final jurors for ru/winners do swapping out 4th/5th with 3rd/4th
after seeing ozzy lose final immunity to sophie i need this
i am dying here he better win
In this reality tho Spencer wouldn't have been a part of Second chance, so does that mean Kieth vs Wentworth in fire for the final 3
Have you done a video that talked about what would’ve happened if the forced final 4 fire making challenge didn’t exist from HHH onward and instead was a vote? If not, I really think that would be a nice contrast to this video.
Here’s the thing about Russell taking a goat, the first time he would take Natalie but next season he would know that he messed his last time and might take Parvati, or maybe he decides to take Jerri
A couple of videos ago you mentioned doing the amazing race runner-up rankings, and I was think would it just be second place or 2nd and 3rd?
He considers a runner-up anyone who made final tribal and lost in Survivor. Since each season of the race ended with a final three, maybe he would only consider second place, but I wouldn’t bet on it
In Game Changers, it was confirmed that if Sarah is not in FTC, then Tai and Brad each get 5 votes. This means Troyzan becomes the last jury member and he votes Brad for the win. So as much as I would love for Tai to win, it's just not the case.
Another idiot who actually believes Reunion show polls which are wrong 99 times out of 100 per the very casts who do them.
That was 5-5 with Hali raising her hand as a Brad vote (haha such bullshit and she even admited after it was bull and she never votes Brad), and Andrea voting Brad (also very unlikely) so by that alone we know Tai wins, and I hate both Tai and Brad so couldn't care myself. Ozzy and Sarah confirming they vote Tai over Brad, means there is no chance Brad wins.
@@grantdesjardins764 Why would you not believe reunion show polls when its live television? Also, why are you selecting certain cast members words over others?
You said, "Well Ozzy and Sarah said.... so it must be true."
@@apecentury228 Since Ozzy and Sarah are votes you would expect Brad to get over Tai. He needs them to ever beat Tai. If he isn't getting them then it is all over.
It is a proven fact reunion show polls are almost always wrong, per the cast members of each season themselves. You are probably 12 years old and just started watching Survivor since someone informed would already know that. Here is a history of bogus reunion show results:
Pearl Islands- The Reunion poll had Lil beating Fairplay. The cast then admited later that same night Fairplay crushes Lil with only Rupert and maybe Christa voting Lil, and that Fairplay probably beats Sandra 4-3. The story came out later they were begged by Probst to give Lil a fake win at the Reunion poll so she wouldn't cry and cause them to delay like she did during FTC.
All Stars- The Reunion poll had Rob beating Jenna 4-3. It was later proven this was wrong with Kathy admiting she for sure votes Jenna over Rob (or anyone but Amber over Rob) even though she raised her hand for Rob at the bogus Reunion poll, while Rupert's vote was up in the air at best.
Guatemala- The Reunion poll had Rafe beating Danni 5-2, while the cast later admited that was a lie and Judd and Jamie for sure are voting Danni, and Lydia probably does too, with Danni winning 5-2 or 4-3.
Fiji- The Reunion poll had Yau Man beating Earl 6-3 when the cast all admited after Earl really wins over Yau Man pretty easily with only 2 or 3 people voting Yau Man.
San Juan Del Sur- The Reunion poll had Keith beating Natalie, and the cast later admited Keith probably doesn't even win a F3 with Jaclyn and Missy, let alone beat Natalie.
Worlds Apart- The Reunion poll had Rodney beating Mike, while the cast admited after Mike still wins. Jenn, Joe, Hali, all admited to lying in the Reunion poll after the Reunion (you know the exact same Hali who was obviously lying in the Game Changers poll too, lol).
Koah Rong- The Reunion poll had Cydney beating Michele, which was later confirmed to be false, unless Cydney wins the jury removal challenge but the Reunion poll had her winning even losing that.
Nicaragua- The Reunion poll had Holly winning if she made F3, then the cast confirmed post show she doesn't beat either Fabio or Chase.
Phillippines- The Reunion poll had Denise beating Malcolm, which the cast later confirmed to be false with Pete, Penner, Carter admited they lied about voting Denise to screw with Malcolm for fun. Probst also asked them to do that for TV purposes.
South Pacific- They had Coach winning if Sophie was not there, then later admited Coach definitely isn't winning even if Sophie isn't there, unless he is against some combo of Albert, Cochran, or Edna. He does not beat Rick or Brandon as the Reunion poll implied.
I am probably forgetting some, but literally the only times Probst did a Reunion poll where they gave an honest result they didn't rebuke themselves after was Marquesas with Kathy winning over both Vecepia and Neleh, Matty winning Gabon, Terry winning Panama over either Aras or Danielle, and maybe Amazon with Rob winning over Jenna M. As for why they often lie in the Reunion poll there are dozens of reasons, most of all that Probst probably asks them to claim a certain result for good TV, or bullies them to pick his favorite beforehand.
And in this case it would be super obvious why Probst would want a tie at his annual bogus Reunion poll. He wanted a chance to expose what the new tiebreaker was for the audience. Which would soon be seen for real in Season 36. I forget if Season 36 had filmed or not at the time, but if it had even more reason.
@@grantdesjardins764 Well I'm not 12, actually about to be 22 and a longtime fanatic for years. I know a lot about every season, I have full rankings on all winners, seasons, idol plays. I genuinely did not know about the reunion shows because I usually skipped them, but I have gone back to watch most of them. I did not know Jeff asked the contestants favors but it now makes sense for TV purposes. You learn something new every day.
So for the Game Changers one, Tai would have won? Because I think Brad does get Ozzy and Sarah's vote, as well as Sierra and Debbie's. Tai has 5 locked votes. The only one questionable is Hali, so it's either 6-4 or 5-5. If Tai does win, it's basically Brad deciding who to give the million to. Also, where are you finding info post-reunion show? If it's social media, I don't follow that so it'd make sense why I didn't know.
Wonderful video
11:45 Was he? I think he didn’t vote for Yul at the final four, because Yul had that hidden immunity idol that could be played after the votes were read
That is partially why, Yul wins in fire either way though.
Didn't Sarah take Brad's wedding ring to guarantee her final 3? In that case it would be Troyzan and Tai going to fire making.
TonioSims There’s no way in hell brad doesn’t take Troyzan and I’ve never heard the thing about wedding ring
6:57 Pearl Islands had some interesting twists
I think the biggest issue for Kaoh Rong in this what if is the juror removal. Assuming Aubry is the final boot, who does Michele (or maybe Cydney) think is a vote that won’t go for them?
Yes and Cydney would definitely remove Scot. Cydney has a good chance of winning the jury removal. And even if she doesn't the poster is an idiot to think Joe would vote Cydney over Michele. Aubry would determine who Joe votes for, which is never Michelle, which is either Cydney or Tai, more likely Cydney as I am sure she knows she is more likely to win over Michele.
Uh I wanna live in a world where Spencer is a winner.
If Cydney is in Final 3 I am always confident Cydney wins over anyone who made final 3
@@rolandgreen7484 i dont see how Tai has Scot or Jason locked especially after not giving up the idol for the super idol play. Scot and Jason’s
Votes for michelle were part for michelle and the rest of if was anti aubrey/tai. If its them three, they cant do an anti vote for all three and I’m guessing they dont vote for who burned them and caused Scot’s elim, and clearly they werent Voting Aubry either. We have no clue who Julia votes for, Neil probably votes Aubry still, Nick was anti michelle and he goes either Cyd or Aubry. Debbie votes for either Cyd or Aubry, Michelle probably votes for Cyd. So its way more possible for Cyd to win than you think. Cyd’s game was up there strategically with Aubry but also played a way better social, which is how michelle won over aubry
I don’t see Ozzy not voting for brad
if tony doesn't win Cagayan I see him playing every time he can Cambodia, game-changers, the edge of extinction if he wins any of these seasons he's on winners at war with a smaller or larger target who knows
Fiji thought: Would the car deal change to Dreams has to save Yau Man from the fire making challenge?
This could be an unpopular opinion but I think the Final Four forced fire-making challenge should no longer be used unless the vote is tied because the person with immunity is given excessive influence and is unfair without a 2-2 tie at the vote. The show needs to bring back the Final Four vote and only use the fire-making challenge if the vote is tied.
I think Ozzy could give up immunity and go to fire against Yul but idk.
so what if they did the fire making challenge during final 3 or if there is a tie? they could go to fire instead of drawing rocks
I think it would’ve been better to assume all final 2s become final 3s in this format. After a fire making challenge it seems silly to go back to a vote again just to eliminate another.
I hate the final four fire making challenge more than any other twist. I haven't even been able to enjoy the last few years of the show knowing it ends with such a production-interference type of twist to save Jeff's favourites.
I hope they just go back to voting at the final four.
Jerri would've definitely won vs Sandra. She would've had Coach, Colby, Amanda, JT. Sandra would've had Courtney, Parvati, Rupert. Candice and Danielle are the two ?? I'm not sure about, but chances are this is where Sandra's previous winner status would hurt her chances.
Tyson vs Tina. Tyson probably still wins. Ciera, Hayden, and Caleb confirmed they vote Tyson for sure. Monica or Gervase obviously does. Not sure who Laura votes for but best case it is 4-4 if Laura, Vytas, Aras, Katie all vote Tina, and Monica or Gervase still give the win to Tyson in the tiebreaker.
Did anyone else see the tiny Kass in the borneo final four
I think Jaclyn saves Missy, easiest choice for anyone.
Who knows. She might secretly hope Missy is taken out by either Natalie or Keith in fire, since she thinks she can get Baylor's vote if Missy is gone, and also hoping Keith and Natalie split a lot of votes to give her a better chance.
20:25 Malcolm’s eyes look scary there
I know Richard was known for making fire but Rudy was a navy seal… i think he could win fire
What if Survivor medical evacuations never happened
Like how far the med evaced people would make it
People always say that Fabio is one of the worst winners, but doesn't the fact that he probably beats everyone in the final 4 make him one of the best...?
Well Tina, Ethan, Brian, Jenna, Sandra, Chris, Tom, Danni, Yul, Earl, Todd, Bob, J.T, Sandra (again), Kim, Cochran, Tyson, Natalie A, Mike, Michele, Sarah, Wendell, Nick, Ben, Tony all beat everyone in the Final 4 too. Additionaly Amber, Parvati, Boston Rob, Tommy, Chris, Denise might beat everyone in the Final 4 too but they are less sure as Amber could lose to Rupert, Parvati could lose to Cirie, Rob could lose to Ashley, Tommy could lose to Lauren, Chris could lose to Rick, and Denise might lose to Malcolm, but they are all atleast possible too. So no that does not make him one of the best.
He was clueless and pretty stupid throughout the game, and Holly has a chance against him
@@sethbryant5539 Holly doesn't even beat Chase. She probably even loses a final 2 to sash. Some of your ideologies are very bad on this video. no offense.
@@danieln.9135 Why would I take offense to that, bitch? Let’s just go through it
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I would guess Sash wins 5-4 with Alina off the jury, but it’s not a guarantee. I do think Fabio wins against everyone at final 5, but some are close votes like the real-life scenario
Just one thing I think that’s wrong with the koah rong vote what about the voting off a jury member challenge who would win that and do you think the results of what you said would be the same.
Cagayan would've been great tbh
23:16 Did Woo wear those water shoes the whole season?
If spencer wins cagayan i think tony might be on Cambodia and i don't thinl he would wins the cambodia and i thinl he probably get voted out early like game changers and tony probably also gotta go to game changers and i think he might learn from his mistake and i think he might win if he play in game changers like how he play in winner at war and if he do then i think theres a high chance he will win game changers he and sarah would still be in a alliance,he will still be in winner at war and i won't doubt spencer would also be in waw too and idk if tony will win WaW.
In 13 ozzy would be smart to give up immunity and go to fire vs yul, beats him, and sweeps the jury.
That version of Ozzy would not do that. South Pacific Ozzy? Yes
There is a decent chance Pascal gets evacuated should he survive the F4 tribal. So Kathy wins. Also a chance Cydney wins the juror removal and she likely eliminates Scott or Jason I would think.
Cydney wins over Michele anyway. The poster is so wrong on Joe voting Michele over Cydney. First off Joe would always vote for who Aubry wanted. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. That alone ensures he votes Cydney over Michele. He even probably votes Tai over Michele, since again that is what Aubry would prefer, although I am pretty sure Aubry picks Cydney over Tai in this F3 as she wants to make sure who is more likely to beat Michele.
Another video where he continues the narrative that Aras beats Cirie when he absolutely does not as confirmed by Aras. Working on I think 4 of these instances? I wonder how many more times he'll continue to repeat this.
I hate Aras and love Cirie, but I think it is very possile Aras beats Cirie. And it does not matter if Aras claims he doesn't, many people claim they don't beat their friend to be humble or they are just wrong. Sally and Austin say they vote Terry over everyone hands down, and Aras next since they only care about physical abilities. Terry has confirmed he always votes Aras since he has the same mindset as far as jury voting. So if we assume Danielle, Bruce, Shane (who was super bitter at both, so not even a sure Cirie vote) all voting Cirie, it comes down to Courtney who is the biggest wild card ever. The only thing we know about Courtney is she votes Shane in every F2, and votes Terry (due to being bitter) over anyone but Shane, but her votes in every other scenario are up in the air, apart from we know her voting Aras over Danielle only since we saw it.