@@stryke1989 Looking at Novelkey's site they still show as manufacturing. Unless you have knowledge other than that, I wouldn't say they are about to ship.
@@BriskJT Nice to hear. I expect it'll still take a while since they'll probably be freighted by boat, I'd imagine, to vendors outside of EU. But, that's further along than I imagined.
I have more gmk sets than anything but still love my dcs pingmaster, sa laser and domikey atlantis keycap sets for different reasons. Sometimes a different profile or material keycap is just what you need for a board in your collection to not sound and feel the exact same as every other gasket mount/foamed up/linear l+f/gmk caps keyboard that every custom collector has too many of.
Been using DCX for a minute as our house testing cap for compatible boards, they kinda gud for the money. Actually better overall quality than either of the GMK sets I'd gotten in recently.
Nice video! would you rather lubed gateron CJ or kfa pink robin factory lubed? also what sound profile would you call the kfa pink robin thocky, creamy, clacky?
Does the second "e" on your gmk enter key look bolder than the other legends on the keycap? I have gmk yuri from novelkeys and the second "e" on the enter key is noticeably bolder than the other legends.
Something to note about the DCX keycaps, Keybored tested them, and they do suffer from north-facing interference. So if you're on a board that's north-facing, be sure your switches are long pole, or moulded in a way that they won't interfere, same as if you were dealing with Cherry profile.
I think you're spot on about references. If I'm not directly comparing I usually don't notice small stuff. Yes, I'll see the spaces between letters but I've seen issues on GMK sets as well. My GMK Oblivion has thinning on certain legends and on certain days, it drives me nuts. Other days I completely forget about it.
Fire edit, and the sound to my ears are barely any different. Defo a good contender for cheaper and higher quality caps. I woudl love to know your thoughts on some of the PBTfans sets as well tho. ( the đi-si-éc and ghim-cây is funny af)
DCX will likely go thru a few QC revisions over the next 1-2 years so likely we'll see better legend consistency over time. Thoughts on DMK (if you've used a set) vs the current DCX or GMK in terms of legend quality/consistency? They all sound virtually the same due to being ABS and the same thickness with Cherry profile, so if sound is all anyone is after I'd say DCX is the best value. Cheers!
Another great video Andy! Would really love to see you compare and talk about PBTFans WOB too. They're looking to be a great in-stock option too with many different colours and great packaging :)
Agree, I have several GMK, EPBT, SP sets and IMO pbtfans twist is the best set I’ve owned. The presentation/packaging is miles better than GMK. Feel and legends are crisp. Triple shot is very well done and they sound oh so thocky!
How are these long term? I have very sweaty fingers, looking for new keycaps on my board to replace my old Akko PBT ASA WOB keycaps. They havvve shined pretty bad after a long while of use and I don't like their texture anymore, so Im looking to these drop ones because the Dusk DCX set looks really nice. Don't wanna drop big money on a keycap set though just for it to become a shined mess like my akkos did. My other board has a cheap 20$ blank key pbt set and that has been great lol
@@AndyVNguyen Damn that's surprising, rip! I guess I should only go for PBT keycaps so that I can get more longevity out of them before they shine over. Do you have any recommendations for brands to look at ?
There's an instock and GB sale for the Thera75v2 in a few days. If you're okay with buying on mechmarket, something like the E7v2 or TGR Tomo might be similar to the Sonnet in price
They are thinner than gmk, they are not double shot all the way to the edge of the keycaps. They shine as fast as gmk. Their legends is awful specially on mods. Sound is amazing tho and have a very large color variety. I have 6 sets but won't buy any more for the issues I raised.
Yeah I've been buying gmk keycaps lately they're really expensive from drop but I did buy the cyber dcx keycaps for a cyberpunk theme keyboard great video gave a like
Should've gone with a different colorway IMO as their first entry. WOB is popular but since the GMK version is just as easy to get, I think a more sound business decision would've been to make a splash rather than what is clearly a "toe dip wade OMG it's so cold I hope this works out". Then again, what do I know? Also the editing in the beginning of this video is fire.
Bold decision for them to sell it on their same storefront they sell gmk wob. I honestly don’t like when new manus go for colors and they end up looking wild
I got the DCX BOW set for my TigerLite after watching the Keybored video on them, and they seem fine. I have not got any GMK sets, because, well, not really in the position to drop that much and let the money sit there hoping that I will get my set at some point within the year, but they seem really well made, sound fine, and they are very consistent which is nice. I approve.
more good options is always good, my only gmk gb experience went with the set being lost in shipping and vendor not having a replacement, so back to the clones i went :D
A bit oot but i think mech keyboard world is the most "forgiving" section in terms of fulfilling target before deadline. Delay almost in every GB and people are okay with that. Imagine you being late to deliver your office task for a day late, your boss already asking for your head 😂
The current color ways that DCX has are also mostly unique to some degree. I've been eyeing the Genesis caps because of the subtle Gundam color scheme (ok, not terribly subtle if you consider the foot of a RX-78-2 model kit shown in one the example photos) Also, some other folks have said their Drop caps have not shined compared to their GMKs which def have despite heavier use on the DCX.
I tried many different types of keycaps from many different brands and I always go back to GMK cause it's reliable. In fact I feel like I have wasted money on competitors' keycaps in my efforts to find something even better. Still, it's very nice to see other quality brands come into the scene over the years. Hopefully GMK will feel threatened to do even better.
gmk being sold for much cheaper these days makes it hard to even bother with any other makers. but gmk still has sus spacebars that can ruin the experience
DCX doesn't shine after 3 months of use for me. All my GMK sets do. I personally like shine as I believe that just like cars, keyboards work better when used and exercised regularly rather than just sitting there looking pretty.
The car analogy doesn't really apply to keycap surfaces though. It makes sense for moving parts like your switches or stabs. But if it's the keycap surface, it just makes it look bad, especially since you will rarely use all of your keys... meaning the most commonly used keys like the alphas and some mods will have a more obvious shine compared to other keys that are very seldom used (ie. caps lock, tilde, etc.)
@@statixfear I see your point but when looking at the board as a whole, shine to me indicates use. Which indicates to me that I like the board, the caps, the angle of them, etc so it becomes a net positive. I also hold on to everything so remonetizing it is never a concern. But I don't disagree with you and I found that my DCX set doesn't shine despite being ABS.
@@das-nyc Relatively speaking, I don't mind shine on keycaps as much. It's more of "even" shine that I'm more concerned about. Because, back in the day, when cheap ABS keycaps were the norm for even mainstream membrane keyboards, it always looked ugly when you can obviously see which keys are used more often than others. If you can somehow get all keys to shine and wear evenly, then the results aren't all that bad.
It’s funny bc I did that and someone still complained I didn’t put the clips RIGHT next to each other and they had to click thru the video to relisted. Can’t win lmao
Well, I don't know your viewerships demographic but *I do need to buy* other manufacturers products because drop refuses to add ISO / International support.
I agree GMK is expensive, but WOB is a poor example of real savings. On Amazon WOB DCX is $99 and the modifier spacing sucks. The WOB GMK set is $120. It's worth the $20 premium. Obviously this is just one example; other GMK sets are more expensive, but I wouldn't buy the DCX WOB over the GMK equivalent, but that's just me.
The sound is the same. You should've done 2 clips and compiled them side by side in different positions. I had to rewind and found they're similar the same in same positions.
Pointless for nonamericans because ordering to Canada with their sale of $89 USD DCX keyset, it comes to $161 CAD after customs and shipping ($117 USD)
nevre been a supportre of gmk, cheap plastic, but good looks, id rathere 100% always buy knock off pbt, that wont get greasy after a week of use. also not into waiting for a year+ for something ive paid nearly $200 american for.
@@AndyVNguyen not a oof form me I’m sure I’ll love it… I got pbtfans for my d65 build. And now ja got gmk dandy daisy base set… which fits well with my green plant clean minimal wood sff setup if that makes sense.., it’s gonna arrive on 18.10 (was in stock set)
same, but i've used sets like pbtfans abs on some boards and haven't really felt it needed anything MORE... but yeah on a nicer board, if i had the choice, gmk. so like my korn and kohaku are unlikely ever gonna see a dcx or a pbtfans. but for the more budget boards like tiger80 lite or an acrylic one.. not a bad idea to use an alternative
The mod legends on dcx are a joke, yes you can absolutely tell they look bad even without gmk wob for comparison, just look at shif t and del t e e It honestly does not look much better than the $40 to $50 epbt and pbt clone sets, just a load of hype, $100 is a stupid price for this. I would rather just get gmk wob for a few dollars more, or if you want to save money, blank thick abs keycaps for $20 instead of having legends that look like a child put them together with fridge magnet letters.
@@AndyVNguyen Drop dcx wob is $100, gmk wob is $110. If a $10 difference on $100 keycaps is making a difference in your life, don't buy $100 keycaps. Buy $20 blank abs keycaps and save $80 for an experience that is basically the same as gmk. Maybe dcx would make sense if some of the very expensive gmk gb sets came to dcx, but novelty kits make many of those sets and I think drop themselves know their double shot process is weak because none of their sets offer novelty kits where these slight issues with legending would make images look bad.
wob is not the only color though, it's the only color i mentioned here. they have a modern dolch dcx also, and the GMK version is not $110. think long term, not in a vacuum.. competition is good for the consumer.
Imagine the filthy amount of money drop could get if they mass produced Perestroika and Striker sets. One only hopes.
Striker R2 is about to ship so extras are coming.
@@stryke1989 Looking at Novelkey's site they still show as manufacturing. Unless you have knowledge other than that, I wouldn't say they are about to ship.
@@Ragnorok64 eu will have theirs start shipping in about 2 weeks, na will follow soon after
@@BriskJT Nice to hear. I expect it'll still take a while since they'll probably be freighted by boat, I'd imagine, to vendors outside of EU. But, that's further along than I imagined.
@@Ragnorok64 Oblo is saying shipping this weekend for EU orders. Nk updates are falling back a bit too much 😂
I found a pretty good method on getting GMK sets faster.
Be occupied enough that you forget you were even in the GB.
give this editor a raise
Editing in this one is amazing. Love this style and format Andy!!!
Much agreed
I have more gmk sets than anything but still love my dcs pingmaster, sa laser and domikey atlantis keycap sets for different reasons. Sometimes a different profile or material keycap is just what you need for a board in your collection to not sound and feel the exact same as every other gasket mount/foamed up/linear l+f/gmk caps keyboard that every custom collector has too many of.
you know it!!
Been using DCX for a minute as our house testing cap for compatible boards, they kinda gud for the money. Actually better overall quality than either of the GMK sets I'd gotten in recently.
Nice video! would you rather lubed gateron CJ or kfa pink robin factory lubed? also what sound profile would you call the kfa pink robin thocky, creamy, clacky?
what website do you use to track production times of GMK sets?
Great video! Would love to see you take a look at the PBTfans WoB or other sets for your opinion
Does the second "e" on your gmk enter key look bolder than the other legends on the keycap? I have gmk yuri from novelkeys and the second "e" on the enter key is noticeably bolder than the other legends.
Something to note about the DCX keycaps, Keybored tested them, and they do suffer from north-facing interference. So if you're on a board that's north-facing, be sure your switches are long pole, or moulded in a way that they won't interfere, same as if you were dealing with Cherry profile.
Thanks for sharing! Honestly they do don’t feel different from cherry. So I’m not surprised
Great video Andy! Loved how entertaining and informative this video is!
I think you're spot on about references. If I'm not directly comparing I usually don't notice small stuff. Yes, I'll see the spaces between letters but I've seen issues on GMK sets as well. My GMK Oblivion has thinning on certain legends and on certain days, it drives me nuts. Other days I completely forget about it.
tried dcx bow during a meetup, feels like they have a slightly rubber-y coating that it feels smooth like DAEMN
Fire edit, and the sound to my ears are barely any different. Defo a good contender for cheaper and higher quality caps. I woudl love to know your thoughts on some of the PBTfans sets as well tho. ( the đi-si-éc and ghim-cây is funny af)
DCX will likely go thru a few QC revisions over the next 1-2 years so likely we'll see better legend consistency over time. Thoughts on DMK (if you've used a set) vs the current DCX or GMK in terms of legend quality/consistency? They all sound virtually the same due to being ABS and the same thickness with Cherry profile, so if sound is all anyone is after I'd say DCX is the best value. Cheers!
The editing just got dialed up.
What is that lavender board though at 4:40 ?
hex 4b, one of the special editions
Sound is pretty comparable but I’ll stick with gmk for the colors and the legend alignment
Damn man your edits in this one are top notch. Love it 🙏
my new editor does a great job!!
Another great video Andy! Would really love to see you compare and talk about PBTFans WOB too.
They're looking to be a great in-stock option too with many different colours and great packaging :)
Agree, I have several GMK, EPBT, SP sets and IMO pbtfans twist is the best set I’ve owned. The presentation/packaging is miles better than GMK. Feel and legends are crisp. Triple shot is very well done and they sound oh so thocky!
Preach it. Love the random sales! This may have convinced me to try these out.
How are these long term? I have very sweaty fingers, looking for new keycaps on my board to replace my old Akko PBT ASA WOB keycaps. They havvve shined pretty bad after a long while of use and I don't like their texture anymore, so Im looking to these drop ones because the Dusk DCX set looks really nice. Don't wanna drop big money on a keycap set though just for it to become a shined mess like my akkos did. My other board has a cheap 20$ blank key pbt set and that has been great lol
Every abs keycap will shine - my “expensive” gmk is also shined to hell lol
@@AndyVNguyen Damn that's surprising, rip! I guess I should only go for PBT keycaps so that I can get more longevity out of them before they shine over. Do you have any recommendations for brands to look at ?
I've had DCX WOB for a while and have no issues! Spacebars were straight too, which I can't say has been consistent on my GMK sets.
happy to hear another good experience!
Do you have any 75% keyboard recommendations? I’m currently looking at the Mode Sonnet.
Hex 4B! He has a video on it
There's an instock and GB sale for the Thera75v2 in a few days. If you're okay with buying on mechmarket, something like the E7v2 or TGR Tomo might be similar to the Sonnet in price
That's wild. I got one wrong keycap in my GMK red Sam, asked drop to send me the missing key, they sent me a whole new set.
drop has that kind of pull though. because they have tons of extra sets
I picked up dcx bow, wob, and cyber. Pretty impressed with them.
4:40 whats the name of the purple keyboard
hex 4b
@@AndyVNguyen thanks for sharing
The one thing I don’t like about GMK is the shine but otherwise as close as DCX gets GMK remains the gold standard for color accuracy for me.
What website is that in 0:34?
kono.store/pages/weekly-update
What about domikey's cherry caps, will you review soon , pls
Honestly, i hope Đi si ek (dcs) keycaps have more colors option but still, love the video Andy :D
I paused and now I am commenting below and I think they sound the same ty loveurcontent
Nice take! I think I can safely check out some DCX sets now lol
editing so fire lmaoo
I got the DCX Dolch and have been really liking them.
try the yongqiu wob abs double shot too, it costs around 13.54 usd before shipping
They are thinner than gmk, they are not double shot all the way to the edge of the keycaps. They shine as fast as gmk. Their legends is awful specially on mods. Sound is amazing tho and have a very large color variety. I have 6 sets but won't buy any more for the issues I raised.
can't really compare those to these lol.
@@lmagus I mean $20 keycaps vs $120 keycaps tho
@@z4k1_zaki65 I know. Like I said, I have 6 kits :P Just not buying anymore.
Yeah I've been buying gmk keycaps lately they're really expensive from drop but I did buy the cyber dcx keycaps for a cyberpunk theme keyboard great video gave a like
Should've gone with a different colorway IMO as their first entry. WOB is popular but since the GMK version is just as easy to get, I think a more sound business decision would've been to make a splash rather than what is clearly a "toe dip wade OMG it's so cold I hope this works out". Then again, what do I know? Also the editing in the beginning of this video is fire.
Bold decision for them to sell it on their same storefront they sell gmk wob. I honestly don’t like when new manus go for colors and they end up looking wild
Andy what about PBTfan's WOB? Any comment on those?
Their PBTFans sets have been solid but I haven’t gotten hands on wob
DCX 's a bit deeper but ONLY cause I'm listening out for it, during real use I couldn't tell if I tried
Definitely agree!
Yes. But what about Domikey Cherry profile?
I got the DCX BOW set for my TigerLite after watching the Keybored video on them, and they seem fine.
I have not got any GMK sets, because, well, not really in the position to drop that much and let the money sit there hoping that I will get my set at some point within the year, but they seem really well made, sound fine, and they are very consistent which is nice. I approve.
Keychron has BoW and WoB for $40. I have another set similar and it is pretty nice.
oh the legends look a bit better than their other sets, interesting!
more good options is always good, my only gmk gb experience went with the set being lost in shipping and vendor not having a replacement, so back to the clones i went :D
1:02 the inner Vnamese has rise
brand new đi si ek huh? fucking beautiful đawg
A bit oot but i think mech keyboard world is the most "forgiving" section in terms of fulfilling target before deadline. Delay almost in every GB and people are okay with that. Imagine you being late to deliver your office task for a day late, your boss already asking for your head 😂
Seriously like 2x group buy duration? That’s crazy. A few weeks sure but it’s like always a whole QUARTER delay!
đi si ek vs jim cuh
I bet no one can separate gmk/dcx wob keycaps if it was mixed together.
definitely agree! it's really hard to tell other than some legending things
I reccomend buying DROP products on amazon. Same shipping time but its free :) sometimes its even quicker
The current color ways that DCX has are also mostly unique to some degree. I've been eyeing the Genesis caps because of the subtle Gundam color scheme (ok, not terribly subtle if you consider the foot of a RX-78-2 model kit shown in one the example photos)
Also, some other folks have said their Drop caps have not shined compared to their GMKs which def have despite heavier use on the DCX.
You are funny, but informative. Thumbs up 👍🏽
Thank you!
Dude I was just about to go to bed and I get the notification. Andy really ruining my sleep schedule
sorry brobro
I tried many different types of keycaps from many different brands and I always go back to GMK cause it's reliable. In fact I feel like I have wasted money on competitors' keycaps in my efforts to find something even better. Still, it's very nice to see other quality brands come into the scene over the years. Hopefully GMK will feel threatened to do even better.
gmk being sold for much cheaper these days makes it hard to even bother with any other makers. but gmk still has sus spacebars that can ruin the experience
The way Andy says the f makes me believe he's still got some viet in his blood lmao
Yeah my last name didn’t give it away? Lol
@@AndyVNguyen LOL
Convertendo para o real moeda aqui do Brazil é quase um teclado mecânico...surreal o preço...
DCX doesn't shine after 3 months of use for me. All my GMK sets do. I personally like shine as I believe that just like cars, keyboards work better when used and exercised regularly rather than just sitting there looking pretty.
The car analogy doesn't really apply to keycap surfaces though. It makes sense for moving parts like your switches or stabs. But if it's the keycap surface, it just makes it look bad, especially since you will rarely use all of your keys... meaning the most commonly used keys like the alphas and some mods will have a more obvious shine compared to other keys that are very seldom used (ie. caps lock, tilde, etc.)
@@statixfear I see your point but when looking at the board as a whole, shine to me indicates use. Which indicates to me that I like the board, the caps, the angle of them, etc so it becomes a net positive. I also hold on to everything so remonetizing it is never a concern. But I don't disagree with you and I found that my DCX set doesn't shine despite being ABS.
@@das-nyc Relatively speaking, I don't mind shine on keycaps as much. It's more of "even" shine that I'm more concerned about. Because, back in the day, when cheap ABS keycaps were the norm for even mainstream membrane keyboards, it always looked ugly when you can obviously see which keys are used more often than others. If you can somehow get all keys to shine and wear evenly, then the results aren't all that bad.
@@statixfearuniform shine does look damn nice tho
When people compare switches/keycaps they always use different letters or different spaces on the keyboard
first person ive seen do it right
It’s funny bc I did that and someone still complained I didn’t put the clips RIGHT next to each other and they had to click thru the video to relisted. Can’t win lmao
Well, I don't know your viewerships demographic but *I do need to buy* other manufacturers products because drop refuses to add ISO / International support.
Don’t take the title too seriously. But most of the hobby is non iso, especially my audience.
Never knew I "needed" to in the first place.
what a chad response
I don't hear a big difference but if I had to say, I think DCX is *slightly* poppier.
I agree GMK is expensive, but WOB is a poor example of real savings. On Amazon WOB DCX is $99 and the modifier spacing sucks. The WOB GMK set is $120. It's worth the $20 premium. Obviously this is just one example; other GMK sets are more expensive, but I wouldn't buy the DCX WOB over the GMK equivalent, but that's just me.
The sound is the same. You should've done 2 clips and compiled them side by side in different positions. I had to rewind and found they're similar the same in same positions.
good idea
It is the same, if not better for the price
Pointless for nonamericans because ordering to Canada with their sale of $89 USD DCX keyset, it comes to $161 CAD after customs and shipping ($117 USD)
Sounds like a fee you’d have to pay for every American vendor
DCX WOB sounds good I like it
I can't stop seeing "shif t" on DCX sets
I would have pulled the trigger on the dolch set already if not
Waiting for the drop sponsorship 😅
I tried and they’re sussy tbh
Thoon!! Hahahaa. Love it bro
PBTFans has also been killing it. GMK be sweatin
where epbt at tho?
@@AndyVNguyen epbt is gmk without the quality lol. ebpt timeless has been in production queue limbo for months.
nevre been a supportre of gmk, cheap plastic, but good looks, id rathere 100% always buy knock off pbt, that wont get greasy after a week of use. also not into waiting for a year+ for something ive paid nearly $200 american for.
GMK WOB is $99 on amazon prime early access right now =)
sheee that's not bad at all
I can’t fathom the fact of paying crazy money for a keycap set that has a warped space. GMK QC just goes down so badly.
Not even just the price… the wait, too. And then having the vendor tell you it’s within spec.
Jim Cuh dis nuts. they need to improve their waiting time deefuk.
Fr tho
Potential one
dis videeeo, its bery gud.
jim cuh
I've been over gmk since 2018, but the hobby wasn't as popular then and alternatives were no where near as good.
love the sound of abs but my cursed fingers will destroy a set in like 5 min
Same same
@@AndyVNguyen we can see it on the tofu 😂
Gmk go thoccc thoccc thoccc on my keyboard
DCX so lit
jim-cuh😂😂
YUHH
D C DEEZ NUTZ
I just spent 215 on a gmk set.. lol
Oof which one ?
@@AndyVNguyen not a oof form me I’m sure I’ll love it… I got pbtfans for my d65 build. And now ja got gmk dandy daisy base set… which fits well with my green plant clean minimal wood sff setup if that makes sense.., it’s gonna arrive on 18.10 (was in stock set)
Imagine all these second grade manufacturers just doing icon mods completely avoiding shif t problems
It’s big brane
dcx are good for their price point but it is true that they are the grey side of colour while gmk is really black just black.
agreed
eh. still prefer gmk to everything else ive tried. nice to have choices though.
same, but i've used sets like pbtfans abs on some boards and haven't really felt it needed anything MORE... but yeah on a nicer board, if i had the choice, gmk. so like my korn and kohaku are unlikely ever gonna see a dcx or a pbtfans. but for the more budget boards like tiger80 lite or an acrylic one.. not a bad idea to use an alternative
di si ek vs jim cuh
DCX for the win! In stock and cheaper! Sign me up
Dcx so lit, drop aint so lit
sound same~
Agree
The mod legends on dcx are a joke, yes you can absolutely tell they look bad even without gmk wob for comparison, just look at shif t and
del t
e e
It honestly does not look much better than the $40 to $50 epbt and pbt clone sets, just a load of hype, $100 is a stupid price for this. I would rather just get gmk wob for a few dollars more, or if you want to save money, blank thick abs keycaps for $20 instead of having legends that look like a child put them together with fridge magnet letters.
A few dollars is make it or break it for some people. There is way worse legending.. go look at jtk.
@@AndyVNguyen Drop dcx wob is $100, gmk wob is $110. If a $10 difference on $100 keycaps is making a difference in your life, don't buy $100 keycaps. Buy $20 blank abs keycaps and save $80 for an experience that is basically the same as gmk.
Maybe dcx would make sense if some of the very expensive gmk gb sets came to dcx, but novelty kits make many of those sets and I think drop themselves know their double shot process is weak because none of their sets offer novelty kits where these slight issues with legending would make images look bad.
wob is not the only color though, it's the only color i mentioned here. they have a modern dolch dcx also, and the GMK version is not $110. think long term, not in a vacuum.. competition is good for the consumer.
nah
du ma ears deceive me bc I can barely hear a diff
Forreal mang
Your thumbnail picture is wrong.
fixed it!
Hell na!!! lol!
:)) you are vietnamese or china :))
Both
Holding andro on the side whilst doing commentary.
That thing must be like 4-5 pounds
I curl, bro
dcx is really good but most of the sets look ugly as
good thing a classic wob can do you no wrong
@@AndyVNguyen exactly