Finally somebody with theory that makes sense,not just wild speculations based of authors own fantasy supported by lore bits that fit it with rest left out.Wish you made more of these.They are on entirely deffirent level than other out there *Cough*DK and his "Everything must involve stalker because I love him" theories *Cough*.SO GOOD FUCKING JOB MATE.REALLY GOOD JOB!
Plus, I love how StallordD is very quick and concise with his discussions. If DK made a video like this, it would talk him almost 20 minutes; I don't hate DK, but the dude just goes on and on and on... and no offense, but his whole Stalker Family thing is a wee bit cringey.
Serious Smith I couldnt agree more,DK is like Lord of Cringe in warframe community,I too dont hate him but he could turn it down a bit.In terms of lore StalllordD is god compared to him.But lets not start a fire here.DK has his moments too,very few but still.
DE needs to just make a book about this lore. No fragments or whatever scattered about the game, just a simple, coherent, straightforward presentation of the lore, cause it seems like it's deep as shit, but other than the cinematic quests and various instances of quests to obtain warframes, the lore has almost no bearing on the gameplay at all. It's almost irrelevant. The game's story directly only insinuates that you're a space ninja made out of a combination of technology and flesh and you're controlled by a kid with weird powers and you're lead by a space mom and a weird ship AI that was actually once a person, and you're going around foiling a mega corporation of guys that make robot animals and a group of jacked up clones while watching out for mutant space zombies and giant squid monsters. Most normal players don't really know about any of this shit. They don't know who Ballas or Margoulis is.
doing that would take out half the fun of playing warframe, lore hunting and speculation. Maybe once the game is at its end that would be a good idea, but as the story continues I look forward to having this ARG-style lore hunt.
Another possible interpretation of Ballas' monologue in the Sacrifice teaser is that he was talking to an unconscious Margulis after she was involved in the incident with the Tenno kids that left her "withered." He probably already knew what the other members of the Executor Council planned to do based upon that incident--scrap the entire project, kill the dangerous ZXO children, and either summarily execute or exile Margulis for her failings and for her disobedience in letting the children live in the first place. He thought then of what she said she wanted, and made the choice to implore that her labor of love be spared, and she alone take the punishment for her actions and failings, arguing that while the children of the ZXO were terribly powerful, that power could still be very useful to the Empire in their war against the Sentient threat, if only they were simply brought under control. In the end that's exactly what happened. Margulis faced death by immolation in front of the Council of Executors, but her children were allowed to live--turned into weapons for the Orokin Empire to use and then throw away (or so they thought)...but allowed to live. It sounds like after Ballas took oversight of the Warframe project, he was still very bitter about the other Executors--as well as the Seven themselves--condemning his love to die...his eyes were opened to the depths of their cold corruption. He saw the fall of the Empire itself in the ever-growing strength of the Tenno. No force in the galaxy could contain them; not the Sentients, not the Infestation, not the Grineer nor the Corpus, and not their gilded masters who were still terrified of all the horrors they had created, but none more so than their most valued warriors--their last and greatest hope was also to be their doom. Perhaps Ballas had a bigger role to play in the Tenno killing their masters than has yet been revealed.
I’m of the opinion that the Arboriforms are the same Derelict vines, but saturated with Void energy. The nature of the Void seems to be in the domain of living things, and these vines, as living things, are capable of transferring Void energy.
Exactly. It's never struck right with me that they were Infested, as it doesn't make much sense that the Infestation would just...die... Not to mention they're mostly in the same places as the Arboriform in non-derelict tiles.
Maybe the Umbra are what the stalker is? As far as we know, the Stalker isn't piloted by a Tenno yet some human consciousness lurks within it, a weakness Hunhow scolds him for holding onto. Also human transference directly into a warframe body has been achieved before, namely when Titania was created. On top of that, not only was she able to ride Titania to the silver grove, the frame itself fought on its own with no pilot when the Dax came to destroy the grove.
Makorze the stalker was an orokin guard that survived the slaughter so he isn't a self piloting warframe but it is possible for warframes to maybe work on their own like that did in the second dream to save you from the stalker
It's so hard not to take the analysis of Stallord as fact. It's all very sensible and well-considered and he's been right in the past more often than not.
Thank you so much for these. I need to know so much more about the lore of this game. Honestly, I'm not even sure what *exactly* happened that the Tenno were put to sleep. All the lore I know is from your playlist that's all.
They are full of tecnocite years ago I ran void missions and I found it amusing that the walls and trees would bleed when I struck them with my blade I have found that they still do when I am bored
the second dream quest hints at stalker being a warframe who rejected his operator, completely denying who he really was and got filled with hate. its too early to really tell what umbra is.
Ultra Window The stalker was a warframe who during the uprising rejected his transference with his Tenno resulting in him killing his tenno. This act shocked Stalker to his core, granting him a level of self awareness and consciousness, but it also twisted his original purpose, to serve. In his pursuit of self preservation via maintaining his original "programing", he took up the assassination contracts against us, partially to serve, and also to seek out a new tenno operator and to try to undo that for which corrupted him. In the Second Dream, we witness Stalker pause and seem to contemplate that for which he is doing. At which point HunHow declares Stalker too weak and using a fragment of himself to direct control Stalker.
We know he served the orokin in fact he is one of them maybe a similar accident to what changed the children happened to him after the orokin fall he was shaken"was i one of those wretched things the traitors?" his armor mixed with his flesh unable to take it off he was similar to a warframe,he then swore to avenge the Orokin by killing as many tenno as possible and many he did kill he went so far that he joined up with the sentients,they both seek one goal the destruction of the Tenno!
thanks a lot for all of that. You definitely got my Admiration. I played it for more than 2 years and i didn´t even get the half of what you know. Good work man
You're actually correct on the technocyte. I mean, it's never outright confirmed but the idea that the Orokin mastered nano-robots so perfectly that they began making techno-organic "living metal" analogues to biology is the only answer that really fits in with what we know of Warframes, Infestation and now the Towers. Keep in mind that Helminth, Lephantis, and the Twin Queens confirm the long-standing theory that Warframes are made of infested flesh.
Wish you uploaded more man, your vids are awesome. You should just remember, if you ever feel like your content is shit, you're NEVER a good judge of yourself. No one is. They either think to lowly or too highly of themselves. Your videos are amazing.
Actually the rhino in the lore entry was a rhino prototype. The warframes originally were people infested with technocyte that could control void powers and using both they could control more void power than a non infested person whithout becoming totally infested. (hayden tenno kinds of infestation) These poor souls were captured b the orokin and converted into the first warframes or the warframes were originally advanced suits of armor at the time for peoples infested like thios and the orokin simply betrayed them in a simular manner to how the emperor of man betrayed the thunder warriors in 40k. Regardless, the end result was these people were surgically and cybernetically altered to be biomechanical meat puppets to the tenno. Hell, the prime warframes may still contain poor souls forcibly converted into warframes
Yay! I love these videos! Thanks StallLordD! Also, perhaps the warframes have some sort of precept to protect their operator when in danger. Like a sentinel precept, but one that we can't get rid of.
Bout the same theory I and many others have had, and I love the diction you used to get it across. To me it makes the most sense, as other theories propose sacrificing ourselves, our link to the lotus, etc, which I can't see being feasible.I also like the mention of alternate strains of the technocyte virus. Since it's been stated our warframes are infested flesh, perhaps this could link to those sacrificed and the process they go under to become a Warframe. I'm sure Helminth and the uniqueness of the Nidus warframe has some place in there.
I have a feeling that Ordis's body got turned into umbra. It all was about kuva, and murder and him sacrificing himself. He even mentions that he was a sacrifice that needed to be made.
It could be possible that they could add a infested character that the hive tries to use to reason with people as a different approach to assimilate other and with that character you could side with the infested
Alad V is not very reasonable tbh, he doesn't reason with others he just DOES what he wants I was thinking more along the lines of a person who seems nice, sends you on missions gives you stuff like a like new loka, red veil but they are too support the infested
the infestation itself is not very reasonable and does not want to be. You were talking among the lines of wishing for the infested to have a more concrete avatar of their mind in the form of a person. Well... Infested Alad V.
One thing to note abbout the orbiter is that acording to ordis the ships lifesupport is maintained wia the infested room and posibly the enttity within
First, glad to see you again : D Second, probably like you that flesh into the orokin tower was what made me more interested and for "what we know now" I agree whit you Third, for what we see in the chains of harrow and what you are saying about Umbra and the "Warframe whitout the tenno" i was wondering that stalker can easily be an example, to survive until now days and apparently whitout staying into the "reservoir" he can be one that "refuse" his 'tenno form' (P.S. Sorry for my english... -.-')
So with the Umbra frames, would it be too far-fetched to assume that they are some kind of Warframes who managed to obtain a form of "free will"? Or could it be possible that the Umbra frames are "vessel" that are able to hold souls of a different being? I am willing to have a conversation on this topic
My opinion on the warframes is that whenever you use transference on them an imprint is left behind in the frame of your.. well.. being. And that given enough time inside of the frame it will gain sentience, but since the copy of the soul is yours it will stay passive. But what do you think would happen if your operator died and another tenno tried to control it? (This is my personal take on it, there is a big chance that this is completely wrong.)
you know, that would make me think that the infested were an early experiment in on the way to the neural sentry tech, if not the void towers themselves.
Legend says if you wait in the towers, The LordD will speak his gilded words
Praise be to Rell
This guy nailed Umbra's creation before he was released!
Seriously
Finally somebody with theory that makes sense,not just wild speculations based of authors own fantasy supported by lore bits that fit it with rest left out.Wish you made more of these.They are on entirely deffirent level than other out there *Cough*DK and his "Everything must involve stalker because I love him" theories *Cough*.SO GOOD FUCKING JOB MATE.REALLY GOOD JOB!
This is so true lmao
Plus, I love how StallordD is very quick and concise with his discussions. If DK made a video like this, it would talk him almost 20 minutes; I don't hate DK, but the dude just goes on and on and on... and no offense, but his whole Stalker Family thing is a wee bit cringey.
Serious Smith I couldnt agree more,DK is like Lord of Cringe in warframe community,I too dont hate him but he could turn it down a bit.In terms of lore StalllordD is god compared to him.But lets not start a fire here.DK has his moments too,very few but still.
D G. DK is more personality guy. This guy had made a really good lore vid. I just subscribed.
*B O N E L E S S O R O K I N*
i would like my technocyte.... B O N E L E S S
Doesn't need bones. It has an exoskeleton. That's right... we're having Tower Bug Meat for dinner!
OBERON Music this is officially in my top 3 greatest comments ever seen on RUclips
Cj Heinz :3
NO VEGETABLES
The LordD of Lore has returned!
And he doesn't fail to deliver an awesome lore-speculationI
ALL HAIL TO THE LordD
amen
Hail lore master
bsdacres amen to that
bsdacres lore give me orgasms
DE needs to just make a book about this lore. No fragments or whatever scattered about the game, just a simple, coherent, straightforward presentation of the lore, cause it seems like it's deep as shit, but other than the cinematic quests and various instances of quests to obtain warframes, the lore has almost no bearing on the gameplay at all. It's almost irrelevant. The game's story directly only insinuates that you're a space ninja made out of a combination of technology and flesh and you're controlled by a kid with weird powers and you're lead by a space mom and a weird ship AI that was actually once a person, and you're going around foiling a mega corporation of guys that make robot animals and a group of jacked up clones while watching out for mutant space zombies and giant squid monsters. Most normal players don't really know about any of this shit. They don't know who Ballas or Margoulis is.
Theyre doing what dark souls did, give us enough to make us want more, but never enough to satisfy us. It makes us keep talking about the game.
doing that would take out half the fun of playing warframe, lore hunting and speculation. Maybe once the game is at its end that would be a good idea, but as the story continues I look forward to having this ARG-style lore hunt.
Agreed
Yes! Thanks for some new What We Know! I love this series!
*played the Sacrifice Quest*
*comes here*
*GASP*
HE WAS CORRECT ABOUT UMBRA!!
I'm so confident in your lore skills that i hit like BEFORE watching the video.
Salvador Jacome same here lol
Salvador Jacome me too lol
Another possible interpretation of Ballas' monologue in the Sacrifice teaser is that he was talking to an unconscious Margulis after she was involved in the incident with the Tenno kids that left her "withered." He probably already knew what the other members of the Executor Council planned to do based upon that incident--scrap the entire project, kill the dangerous ZXO children, and either summarily execute or exile Margulis for her failings and for her disobedience in letting the children live in the first place.
He thought then of what she said she wanted, and made the choice to implore that her labor of love be spared, and she alone take the punishment for her actions and failings, arguing that while the children of the ZXO were terribly powerful, that power could still be very useful to the Empire in their war against the Sentient threat, if only they were simply brought under control.
In the end that's exactly what happened. Margulis faced death by immolation in front of the Council of Executors, but her children were allowed to live--turned into weapons for the Orokin Empire to use and then throw away (or so they thought)...but allowed to live.
It sounds like after Ballas took oversight of the Warframe project, he was still very bitter about the other Executors--as well as the Seven themselves--condemning his love to die...his eyes were opened to the depths of their cold corruption. He saw the fall of the Empire itself in the ever-growing strength of the Tenno. No force in the galaxy could contain them; not the Sentients, not the Infestation, not the Grineer nor the Corpus, and not their gilded masters who were still terrified of all the horrors they had created, but none more so than their most valued warriors--their last and greatest hope was also to be their doom.
Perhaps Ballas had a bigger role to play in the Tenno killing their masters than has yet been revealed.
I MISS YOUR LORE-CRAZED CONTENT MAN!
yeah! lordD is back
I’m of the opinion that the Arboriforms are the same Derelict vines, but saturated with Void energy. The nature of the Void seems to be in the domain of living things, and these vines, as living things, are capable of transferring Void energy.
Exactly. It's never struck right with me that they were Infested, as it doesn't make much sense that the Infestation would just...die...
Not to mention they're mostly in the same places as the Arboriform in non-derelict tiles.
Maybe the Umbra are what the stalker is? As far as we know, the Stalker isn't piloted by a Tenno yet some human consciousness lurks within it, a weakness Hunhow scolds him for holding onto. Also human transference directly into a warframe body has been achieved before, namely when Titania was created. On top of that, not only was she able to ride Titania to the silver grove, the frame itself fought on its own with no pilot when the Dax came to destroy the grove.
Makorze the stalker was an orokin guard that survived the slaughter so he isn't a self piloting warframe but it is possible for warframes to maybe work on their own like that did in the second dream to save you from the stalker
@@kaiju9671 maybe he did the same thing that silvana did
I am a simple man... I see a new video from LordD, I instantly give it a like and watch it immediately.
Coming back to this vid and hearing what you said about the Rhino codex and your speculation... You were spot on about Umbra.
Watching this after playing Sacrifice and it's awesome how on point you were on the nature of Umbra frames.
I can't believe most of this guy's theories are really true.
The best Warframe Lore channel on RUclips, period. Your content is short, sweet and to the point, which is great. Please continue making videos!
You have no idea how excited I get when I see a video in this series being posted.
Thanks for you're hard work Stally.
It's so hard not to take the analysis of Stallord as fact. It's all very sensible and well-considered and he's been right in the past more often than not.
Thank you so much for these. I need to know so much more about the lore of this game. Honestly, I'm not even sure what *exactly* happened that the Tenno were put to sleep. All the lore I know is from your playlist that's all.
These videos are so much better than all other Warframe lore videos, keep them coming as the game is largely unexplored!
Your Umbra theory in this was spot on.
I'm glad you're back. Best lore videos and speculations that make sense, and a soothing voice.
I never expected this much depth and attention to detail in a free online game very happy I started playing
Man, I love how you present your theories in these videos. Great work!
Yesss! Love that you're back to do What We Know videos again!
Your oratory has improved in the time between your videos, that felt pretty empassioned. Good to see another of your videos!
They are full of tecnocite years ago I ran void missions and I found it amusing that the walls and trees would bleed when I struck them with my blade I have found that they still do when I am bored
And this my dude, is how you nail Umbra lore prediction. Damn! talent.
Seriously the best Lore channel ever! No competition
*HE IS ALIVE!!!!!!!*
YES! Anothee StallorD video! On lore too! Staying up was worth it.
This really makes me want to read a high scifi novel about transhumanistic themes set in the Warframe universe...
You would make an excellent history teacher with your narrative skills
1 year later, the umbra is sentient well done bro, ur prediction was spot on
Ok ... Now i'm impressed, it all "fits" so well. It's so cool, great video !
Startlingly accurate with your Umbra theory.
theres probably a stalker connection in there somewhere.
Ultra Window I can imagine the stalker being like an evil, defected umbra maybe.. like that rhino prototype but actually smart
the second dream quest hints at stalker being a warframe who rejected his operator, completely denying who he really was and got filled with hate.
its too early to really tell what umbra is.
Ultra Window The stalker was a warframe who during the uprising rejected his transference with his Tenno resulting in him killing his tenno. This act shocked Stalker to his core, granting him a level of self awareness and consciousness, but it also twisted his original purpose, to serve. In his pursuit of self preservation via maintaining his original "programing", he took up the assassination contracts against us, partially to serve, and also to seek out a new tenno operator and to try to undo that for which corrupted him. In the Second Dream, we witness Stalker pause and seem to contemplate that for which he is doing. At which point HunHow declares Stalker too weak and using a fragment of himself to direct control Stalker.
thats a solid explination to him, but it also says that warframes have their own minds.
its not too absurd considering the technocyte connection.
We know he served the orokin in fact he is one of them maybe a similar accident to what changed the children happened to him after the orokin fall he was shaken"was i one of those wretched things the traitors?" his armor mixed with his flesh unable to take it off he was similar to a warframe,he then swore to avenge the Orokin by killing as many tenno as possible and many he did kill he went so far that he joined up with the sentients,they both seek one goal the destruction of the Tenno!
thanks a lot for all of that. You definitely got my Admiration. I played it for more than 2 years and i didn´t even get the half of what you know. Good work man
Your videos always give me goosenips
Felt like I was watching a documentary on National Geographic. Nice job. I subscribed immediately.
HOLY F*** you need to do narration for a living your voice is clean af lol
"Making small pockets of impossible space. Following that logic" WHAT LOGIC
this is one of the best lore videos i have ever seen !! not just in warframe.
You're actually correct on the technocyte. I mean, it's never outright confirmed but the idea that the Orokin mastered nano-robots so perfectly that they began making techno-organic "living metal" analogues to biology is the only answer that really fits in with what we know of Warframes, Infestation and now the Towers. Keep in mind that Helminth, Lephantis, and the Twin Queens confirm the long-standing theory that Warframes are made of infested flesh.
Glad to have you back!
Finally! A new upload. And a great one at that. Not just mindless speculation.
You came soo close. Hope you make more.
Been waiting for this, welcome back dude and thanks for the vid xD
you were almost completely right about umbra wowie
Finally someone who knows what he speaks!
Thanks you for making this videos. I hope you have got all your insparation back!
Wish you uploaded more man, your vids are awesome. You should just remember, if you ever feel like your content is shit, you're NEVER a good judge of yourself. No one is. They either think to lowly or too highly of themselves. Your videos are amazing.
Welcome back my friend, you have been missed!
Actually the rhino in the lore entry was a rhino prototype. The warframes originally were people infested with technocyte that could control void powers and using both they could control more void power than a non infested person whithout becoming totally infested. (hayden tenno kinds of infestation) These poor souls were captured b the orokin and converted into the first warframes or the warframes were originally advanced suits of armor at the time for peoples infested like thios and the orokin simply betrayed them in a simular manner to how the emperor of man betrayed the thunder warriors in 40k. Regardless, the end result was these people were surgically and cybernetically altered to be biomechanical meat puppets to the tenno. Hell, the prime warframes may still contain poor souls forcibly converted into warframes
Returned and Sets again a bomb ass Lore video
Wow! This is really well done! I love lore channels, glad I stumbled across yours. :P
Yay! I love these videos! Thanks StallLordD!
Also, perhaps the warframes have some sort of precept to protect their operator when in danger. Like a sentinel precept, but one that we can't get rid of.
That was awesome work! Thank you, good sir, you are a scholar and a gentletenno.
plz don't stop making these I really like this series >w
i remember watching you a while ago didn't know you still uploaded!
The sentient can also assimilate flesh as well...
Good to have you back!
I wish we could go inside the Tower in cetus
Well look at that...
@@ungabunga8380 dream do come true 😊
Its good to have you back lordD
StallordD, back it again with mindblowing content.
Hey Stallord, good to see you made another video.
*stallord uploads* holy shit!!!
More.
I need more.
Especially for Warframe.
Hurrah, StallordD has returned! I thought it was the end... Man, am I relieved...
Fun fact
You can eat orokin towers
Because they are actually
Living creatures
Still waiting on a mission inside the one near Cetus, and for someone to explain why there are constant explosions occuring on it.
Cetus balloon crews are using explosives to remove sections of the tower's walls then harvesting the meat within.
Bout the same theory I and many others have had, and I love the diction you used to get it across. To me it makes the most sense, as other theories propose sacrificing ourselves, our link to the lotus, etc, which I can't see being feasible.I also like the mention of alternate strains of the technocyte virus. Since it's been stated our warframes are infested flesh, perhaps this could link to those sacrificed and the process they go under to become a Warframe. I'm sure Helminth and the uniqueness of the Nidus warframe has some place in there.
If you also stay inside the infested room long enough Ordis will say the technocyt is a “nesscary evil”
I've suspected something like this for quite some time - the Infestation being used as a building tool rather than just a weapon.
Umbra won't escape me grinding him and then shoving a potato, forma and an exilus in him.
what makes the most sense to me is that the warframes are the tennos parrents/people who where on the ship at the time of the jump accident
I have a feeling that Ordis's body got turned into umbra. It all was about kuva, and murder and him sacrificing himself. He even mentions that he was a sacrifice that needed to be made.
Man, I love how you like... actually script your videos and stuff...
Not gonna lie...When I seen a new video was made I went and got insta-hyped...
You make Warframe's lore sound sooo much more interesting than "other youtubers" *cof DK *cof
I wish in invasions you can side with the infested, if you have a helminth cyst or have nydis
for that to happen we would need a bigger entity that rules over the infested that is intelligent like lephantis but a step up
It could be possible that they could add a infested character that the hive tries to use to reason with people as a different approach to assimilate other and with that character you could side with the infested
oh, you mean infiested alad v.
Alad V is not very reasonable tbh, he doesn't reason with others he just DOES what he wants I was thinking more along the lines of a person who seems nice, sends you on missions gives you stuff like a like new loka, red veil but they are too support the infested
the infestation itself is not very reasonable and does not want to be. You were talking among the lines of wishing for the infested to have a more concrete avatar of their mind in the form of a person. Well... Infested Alad V.
One thing to note abbout the orbiter is that acording to ordis the ships lifesupport is maintained wia the infested room and posibly the enttity within
I love your speculation videos.
I have missed you so much....thank you
The master of lore has returned!
ALL hail the LOR Master
Welcome back lore master
This is what I've been waiting for.
ahhh man i love me some good orokin lore. I hope the orokin come back.
I had a good feeling about the frame self movement in the quest as well. No connection, but it moved? Can't wait...
First, glad to see you again : D
Second, probably like you that flesh into the orokin tower was what made me more interested and for "what we know now" I agree whit you
Third, for what we see in the chains of harrow and what you are saying about Umbra and the "Warframe whitout the tenno" i was wondering that stalker can easily be an example, to survive until now days and apparently whitout staying into the "reservoir" he can be one that "refuse" his 'tenno form'
(P.S. Sorry for my english... -.-')
moment i saw this video in my feed, STOP gotta watch
So with the Umbra frames, would it be too far-fetched to assume that they are some kind of Warframes who managed to obtain a form of "free will"? Or could it be possible that the Umbra frames are "vessel" that are able to hold souls of a different being? I am willing to have a conversation on this topic
My opinion on the warframes is that whenever you use transference on them an imprint is left behind in the frame of your.. well.. being. And that given enough time inside of the frame it will gain sentience, but since the copy of the soul is yours it will stay passive. But what do you think would happen if your operator died and another tenno tried to control it?
(This is my personal take on it, there is a big chance that this is completely wrong.)
Thanks for making these amazing videos. You're the best.
Also when rhino entered the room of tenno, it stopped rampaging. Think this is because one of the tenno assumed control of it.
That Explains why we need Forma For Building Dojos
you know, that would make me think that the infested were an early experiment in on the way to the neural sentry tech, if not the void towers themselves.
i wish we could get more umbra frames, such as umbra rhino or umbra mag