Will Harbor Freight's Hercules 20 Volt Batteries Work in Dewalt Tools? by
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Nope! Here are some of the reasons why.
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The top pin next to the Bat+, market TP on the dewalt battery is the temperature sensor pin. It is what prevents the tool from starting if the battery is too cold or too hot. The system they use is different, which is why the battery doesn't work even if you modify it physically. You can bypass it with a 10k ohm resistor. I made a video: ruclips.net/video/PNdQdzWtLVE/видео.html
And the most important reason why they won't work? Because they're both made by the same manufacturer and that is Black & Decker. Black & Decker makes DeWalt and Hercules so they definitely weren't going to make their cheaper battery compatible with the DeWalt. Now you know why they're both so similar and will not work together.
I wonder if you can take the internals of the hercules battery and put them inside a dead dewalt battery with minimal soldering. Can you take the whole bock of 4 cells and solder them to the wiring inside a dewalt battery?
Since the Hercules batteries can be disassembled so easily and modified to fit, someone should sell replacement power boards for running them in DeWALT tools. Cheap 12AH 21700 cell Samsung 40T DeWALT packs!
watch James barcellano you tube video. he made the Hercules work in the Dewalt.
Nearly thumbs downed because of the wait.... But it was worth it. Good video man.
He told you in ten seconds. Other people make wait minutes.
The problem is that the temp sencer is incompatible. You coukd probably test both bstterys and add a resistor to make one work but you can only add resistance not subtract it so the conversion would only work for one of the batteries.
The problem is dewalt tools. What I mean by that is dewalt makes “smart” tools. Meaning they have battery control circuits inside the tool. Ryobi makes “dumb” tools meaning the battery control circuits are in the batteries. So you can easily hot wire a Ryobi tool with other batteries. The dewalt tool will fight you and won’t work because of the tool having the battery control circuits. So the dewalt tool knows your trying to hot wire it and the circuits are not letting the tool work.
There are easy ways to bypass this provided by other users in this video’s comment section… assuming you can do some lite soldering…
Their are a lot of aftermarket batteries out their made to fit the dewalt tools that are just as good as the Hercules batteries and you don't have to cut your tools or your batteries up. Only thing is when you buy original Dewalt batteries you know your getting quality.
Yes but do they make an adapter to run 20 volt hercules tools on dewalt baterties that are also 20 volt
they do but as of right now it doesn't work
Thank you! Very good video!
+Sonny Kim thanks for watching!
more light on your items your talking about helps
Porter cable and Black n Decker match up,well u have to cut a tiny notch.
Same company, that's why they're so close.
thanks for shering!!
Very good post, informative.
Thank you very much!
Just out of curiosity ,the dewalt drill U cut away some of the tab, does its battery lock in straight now ?
Can you do a video on Black & Decker and DeWalt they're the same company their shit looks alike and Craftsman cuz they Outsource to Black & Decker
I would if I if I had one!
Did you check polarity? They could be completely opposite? Just a thought.
It could be, but I have since given up on this. There were many other videos made about this from other channels. All from guys that know way more than I do and from what I understand it's just not worth the effort in making the Herc batteries work in the the dewalt tools.
awesome video. thanks
Will the DeWalt battery work on the harbor freight drill?
I'd like to know that too
Not at all, for the same reasons the opposite doesn't.
I am curious if they work on brushless dewalt tools. I have the DCF887 brushless impact and DCD796 brushless drill. They only have 4 pins for the battery connection, no center pin.
+John D all the tools only have 4 contacts, but the batteries have all 5.
the 5th one might be for the battery temp sensor for the charger...
What you can do is buy broken or bad cell dewalts and solder these cells in
The pin placement was a great assumption. That is the key, or one of, to each brand being proprietary and preventing cross use.
By the time you'd make any modifications to either the tool or the pack, it becomes a waste of time and money.
Great video. 👍👍👍
+SHAKA38 awesome! I'm glad I was on to something! Thanks for watching.
ASSuming without knowing anything. If it were really that difficult there wouldn't be knockoff batteries for nearly every brand. A reason knockoffs aren't as good is because they sometimes use old/used/inferior batteries. I believe only DeWalt XR and newer Milwaukee have a special board, however that is to stop you from reusing official batteries. I (and many others) have been able to modify/re-purpose batteries and chargers (avg. $10 or less in most severe case), this isn't advanced engineering.
With microcontroller ICs costing pennies a piece these days it is easy enough tech to implement. I'm sure every manufacturer is interested in protecting their sales.
I think Mac battery’s are interchangeable.
I've heard the same thing between Mac and Dewalt, but I don't know for sure.
@@GettinJunkDone I saw a mechanic shop use a Mac impact with a freaky battery cause dewalt was cheaper
There are dirt cheap chinese copies of Dewalt batteries on ebay. 23$ for 20v 2.0 ah. I've had the cheapo ebay Batts for a Milwaukee. I had to shave the rails a bit but they did work. Another exciting thing I saw today. A Factory adapter (hot foot) that allows the use of the 20v dewalt batteries on the older 18v dewalt line. ...That's the kind of crap that makes a man switch from red to yellow! (I got burned when Milwaukee switched from V18 to M18).
I have been a dewalt guy forever. Everyone kept telling me to go Milwaukee...so I did! I bought two expensive v18 rotary hammers, batteries and chargers. It worked OK. Until the batteries failed. Sold them for next to nothing on ebay.....worthless. Never again. I just found out about the 18v/20v adapter and I am stoked! I have a ton of the good old 18v yeller tools!
timcole421 Yep to hell with not only Milwaukee but TTI. I'll go back to driving screws by hand before buying another damn thing from them.
Indeed, it's freaking annoying that they want us to buy a whole bunch of batteries every 4 years 'cause newer tools and stuff. Even thought they're nowhere near in quality/power/all, I prefer the ryobi using the same battery for years on end, makes it worth to tool up on the things.
That's why I bought ryobi. I'm a hobbyist so I dont need contractor tools. It's super nice to be able to use the same batteries for tools now and 20yrs ago. I still have a few blue older tools that work great with my new lithium batteries. They haven't let me down yet. Quality is decent too. I dont beat my equipment either so they'll do me just fine
Bauer battery will work on DEWALT tools
the nicer tools need to comunicate to the battery. that way you dont blow up the tool or the battery
Time for the death of the beard.
Excuse me?
Dear lord. I am just trying to figure out how to get the dewalt batteries to work in hercules tools, specifically the cordless vacuum.
Before anyone says "just go buy the dewalt vacuum".....they have gone up 80% in price, and are 2 months out. I can drive down to harbor freight buy their cordless vacuum right now, and for a fraction of the cost. Not even interested in any of the other tools. I have most of what I need in dewalt already.
Why not get the battery for the HF vacuum as well, since it's so cheap compared to the DeWalt.
@@GettinJunkDone because buying two of them with a charger, puts you right at the price point of the inflated price of the Dewalt. At that point I should just buy the Dewalt.
If that's the case I agree, buy the dewalt.
@@GettinJunkDone actually....injusy saw that lowes has the craftsman version for 79 bucks....with an adapter its just iver 100 bucks. I'm going that route.
The problem with these batteries is, even if you get them to work, they're still garbage batteries. They don't deliver the same runtime as the dewalt batteries, and no over/undercurrent protection means you're that much more likely to burn your house down.
Those el cheapo amazon batteries might work without modification and cost about the same as the hercules battery, but they suffer from the same issues. Cheap cells don't deliver the listed power ratings, and no over/undercurrent protection.
If you want to take the risk to save a few bucks, go for it. I'll stick with the real deal.
I know this is an old video, but why didn't you try out the opposite.
Would a dewalt battery work on a hercules tool?
Yeah, i know. You gave up on this project.
The point was to have a cheap, but effectively battery in a quality tool. Therefore, that was the only test I did.
Did you give up on the comment?
Ha! He keeps saying ,, cant,,!!!!
Getting junk done!?! Haha! Should be called not getting s*** done
Can't be done!!!??? HA! I don't do , cant, anything can be done
BS. If the battery didn't work, the trigger would have still been able to be pressed down all the way.