@@CycocelVocalist i wouldn't have had anywhere the patience he's displayed over the last two decades. Thanks for the compliment on the name. I have loved science and invention since I was a kid. I thought about using Michael Faraday.
The show sucks when there are hosts who roll over and let guests steamroll them with incoherent arguements and preaching. Matt is the best host because he doesn't let guests take an inch.
Re Pixie's in the attic: "I'd need to see the evidence." Good Dawg, that is the atheist's argument: there is NO EVIDENCE supporting the existence of a god or gods!
I like how Forrest addresses people on the phone, warm n encouraging. He's the sort of dude you wanna see at 5 in the morning, getting to work n he greets you in the lunchroom, when your still tired.
@@GiaDiamond4 - I don't think it's for no reason, I think it's frustration. Having to explain the same point hundreds, if not thousands of times only to get "yeah, okay, but what about..." It's like being a teacher surrounded by children with learning disabilities and no matter how patient and thorough you are with your explanations they ask the same questions the very next day. A lot of these people have no experience with critical thinking or anything over a bare basic understanding of cosmology or biology. They are ignorant and have no desire to increase their understanding of these subjects because they have the Bible. In ten years Forrest will also be a Matt from dealing with those people.
@@donmiller2908 Then don’t host a show about atheism if you can’t handle a theist’s confusion/ignorance? I mean, if they’re being bigoted or horrible, by all means go off. But this guy’s got an attitude as soon as they pick up.
For those of you that Claim to have "found god" and therefor now have "Personal Testimony", AND your god is Omnipotent, then I say = Pray/Talk to him for me. According to you, that "god" has proven himself to you. Tell him to Prove himself to me too. Should be easy. There should be ZERO Excuses. So, go for it.
I can already tell you how that will go: “you’re not opening your heart enough and you don’t TRULY want to believe or get to know the Holy Spirit, yada yada yada….” Heard the bullshit for years trust me. So boring.
Religious apologists have already given themselves a loophole to cover that problem with their fairy tale. Their imaginary gods don’t want to prove their existence because that would destroy your faith. When you’ve been trying for thousands of years to convince people that your imaginary friends exist, you should eventually be able to plug up all the holes in the story.🤡
I find it so weird that people actually need getting explained how a subjective interpretation of something isn't a whole lot of use when you're trying to determine objective fact... Both parts are opposites....
at some point you'll realize that this whole voting system (ie go vt ) is a sham and you are being played. It's the next level religion, complete with brainwashing and indoctrination
I’m still waiting for the line “it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove”. Not the same context as the original use of the quote, but still applies nicely I think.
I have studied religious people with interest for several decades. My conclusion is that all theists know that 'in their hearts' (as they would say) that they have no reason for their purported belief and spend their lives trying to supress cognitive dissonance. Usually this takes the form of trying to convince others because that apparently helps them rationalize their own 'faith'.
There's some truth to that. Tenuous beliefs seek validation from others. Profound personal experiences on the other hand, do not care if anyone else believes it or not. Most religionists do not ever have profound personal experiences that remove all doubt. I have had such experiences (it was wonderful!). But I get it, the point of religion is to encourage people to grow toward perfection, which is a soul-struggle, and most people are too lazy to do that. Matt's criticisms of religion are logical and understandable, given the evolutionary nature of the Bible, and its self-contradictory messages. No, the Bible does not contain any irrefutable evidence for God, nor will there ever be material proof of a non-material being. Personal experiences are all that's available to any of us. And psychology being what it is, people usually misconstrue what they think they know. But in the end, subjective personal experience is all we ever "know". [So called "objective" reality is always filtered through our subjective consciousness.]
I agree. I eventually arrived at that conclusion. The majority of them already know.. They are just not honest with themselves or anyone else, about why they are so desperate to pretend to believe in something they know isn't true.. One verse in the bible, proves beyond argument, that what it says in the story isn't true. You do not need convoluted arguments, claims of historical evidence, religious scholars, with complex abstract logical arguments, testimonies etc. Mathew 21.21-22 Clearly states, every believer has amazing magical powers and will be given anything they ask for... (An end to child poverty and disease, war and the end of atheism, you would think might be high on this list)? 100 billion individual evidences, over 2,000 years, of every claimed believer, not being able, to demonstrate and completely failing to do any of these things, constitutes overwhelming and irrefutable proof that the claims in the book are false.. The number gets added to every day.. 🤷♂️
I have a family of religious people in various faiths: JWs, Evangelicals, Catholics. My observation is most fall in two categories. God of the gap, Pascal wedgers. One family member is extremely religious and is also the most educated ( PhD in electronic). This family member applies critical thinking every where, except when it comes to religion. I have seen very few people show this type of dissonance. This person literally believes Noah's ark, believes the earth is 6k years old, cites the bible at every opportunity,... I'm tempted to ask him to call this show and debate atheists.
@@henrim9348 It's always unsettling seeing otherwise decent and intelligent people attesting to harmful nonsense with such disdain for reason due to a pet indoctrination.
I may have cognitive dissonance about some things, but a lot of what's written in the Bible I have no cognitive dissonance about whatsoever. When it says adultery is a bad thing, I'm fully in agreement with it. When it says promiscuity and drunkenness are bad, I'm also in fully agreement with it. MUCH of the world has cognitive dissonance about those topics. Their life is like a darn rollercoaster where they're partying and loving life one evening and the next morning are filled with shame because they don't know the stranger in their bed.
The time to believe in something is when there is valid and verified evidence supporting its existence. Without valid and verified evidence, belief is not warranted.
@@chyfields the earth has been proven to exist. The idea that the earth is a supernatural being is a claim backed by no valid or verified evidence. Unless you believe you have valid and verified evidence for that claim?
How many testimonies would it take to convince you? Many people have communicated telepathically with our home planet (ask any indigenous species). I, too, have been privileged to have had the opportunity to communicate with Mother Earth. She told me that She has guided the development of human consciousness and can reverse that process too.
@@chyfields personal testimony is not valid nor verified evidence. I'm not saying you're lying or not experiencing a phenomenon. I'm just saying there's no method for independent verification for what you're experiencing. Can this communication you're experiencing be independently measured? Can it be accurately reproduced every time it's investigated? Without an independent method for verifying your experience, then it cannot be considered valid or verified.
What annoys me the most is that this specific program (and maaaaany others) have explained countless times that personal experiences are not evidence. So why do they keep bringing it up? It is just so pointless.... Learn something from the explanations and move on! A story about a personal experience can be a lie, the person could have dreamt it, had an hallucination, did drugs, epilepsy (which causes i.e. hypoxia and obe's), brain damage etc. Stop wasting time, it is never going to be evidence. Ever.
Matt is the sharpest edged knife on the show. He suffers no bullshit and he keeps things rolling along. If you’ve followed the program for a bit you see by now that impatience is his personal colophon. What makes it hard on my anxiety isn’t his irritability so much as it is the cellular lag time with callers that results in the host and guest unintentionally talking over each other and clipping their sentences. In other words, it ain’t Matt, it’s Ma Bell.
Oh look, another theist who either doesn't know how to evaluate evidence, or doesn't care to know how to evaluate evidence. "God is real because I experienced it." Well then I guess you've made the greatest scientific discovery of all time. I don't know why the scientific community hasn't figured this out. Brilliant logic.
Even if the personal testimony you've just heard is heartfelt, sincere and you're 100% positive the person giving it really believes that what they're saying is true...so what? How does that get you any closer to the truth? How do you know their testimony describes events that actually occurred? How do you know it isn't a chemical imbalance in their brains causing periodic hallucinations or an un-diagnosed case of early onset Alzheimers? When you say "There is nothing wrong with personal testimony" please explain how it's used to benefit anyone or anything. I'd really like to know.
Here's why personal testimony/revelation is not reliable - You have a Christian, Buddhist and Hindu in a room together. The Christian says he met Jesus. The Buddhist says he met Buddha. The Hindu says he met Vishnu. Which one is telling the truth? You don't know until they provide empirical evidence, at which point it's no longer personal testimony/revelation
After watching dozens of these videos, I have pretty much become convinced that it is OK to believe in Space Pixies. At least Space Pixies, have no stories about them condoning slavery, committing mass murder, and ordering genocide!
Forrest, good to have you on. Matt has completely lost patience with most callers. I'm tempted to ask a very Christian relative to call one of the shows . I have lost patience with him as well. I know Matt will yell at him in less than a minute.
Personal experience, testimony, miracles, prophecy, written texts, and “numbers of believers “ has to be the easiest bullshit to debunk that “supernatural sky daddies” exist!
From the hundreds of hours like many have watched Matt is defo less patient these days , hanging up before ge gives the Co host an opportunity to interact with the caller also seems to happen more , still a great host 👍, nobodies perfect
Give us your scientific evidence for God. Okay, well a, bla ba ba duh, blip bop bip, uh. Can you give us your scientific evidence for God? Duh, ba la la. Do you even have any scientific evidence for God? Well uh, so, da ba ba, doobie loobie na. That's what I thought.
The Pixies in Forrest's attic and I go out drinking sometimes. 1) That's my testimony, so it must be valid. 2) You can't prove we DON'T go out drinking.
My testimony, I had a wonderful experience with god. So now YOU have to believe in my god, listen to me and believe everything I say. You have to do what ever I tell you to do and live your life only in the ways that I say you can live. I require complete power over you and your life, and you have to give me money! All this becasue "I" believe in god."
Matt is waaaay too sensitive to what he perceives as being interrupted. Like, its true that he often is straight up interrupted by callers who have no focus. However, a lot of times its as innocuous as a caller simply showing basic "I'm listening to you" type social cues such as saying "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" etc. As long as the caller isn't doing that as an attempt to shut you down or interject, there's no need to get all angry over being "interrupted." It's just weird and its essentially Matt derailing himself.
I don't think it's being too sensitive. Using social cues you understand that when other people are speaking, you stop speaking. So when he starts to speak and hears "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" etc. he stops speaking and waits for them to finish. They acknowledge they're done, he begins to speak again and hears "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" etc. It's maddening and would irritate the hell out of me. My daughter does that on the phone, constantly interrupting with "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" to the point where I've hung up on her. It isn't necessary to do that and is a very bad habit. Let the person finish what they're saying. No one needs constant reinforcement that they're being heard.
John doesn’t have anything to say in contribution to the “what is god/is there god” discussion. He just wants people to listen to him, and say that you’re not being open enough when you question him. Maybe it’s you John that’s not open minded enough?
This guy isn't an honest interlocutor, but it seems kind of like he wants to be. He's just kind of socially broken so he can't handle two way interactions.
Weak faith are those who give up on God before they've encountered Him. God Himself said, "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with ALL YOUR HEART. "
@@johnnyblue9120 yes and I'm sure all those who were in the faith who did everything thing to the braking point but found nothing and became athiest are just spotting nonsense.
In all fairness to the idiotic callers… Matt often interrupts or interjects when people are talking yet loses his shit when they do it. I get the grumpiness but just be fair. I still enjoy hearing the bad thinking and we need to forgive a little bit of conversational normalcy.
It's interesting. If you have "the truth" how come these people.always have a hard time stringing normal sentences together, or even comprehend words? They seem insecure and quite frankly lacking in the cognition department. Now is that because "the truth" is so great it fries their brains....or is there another reason?
@@n0etic_f0x ALL RELIGIONS through its ANTI-CHRISTS Pastors and Leaders produce and breed foolish, liars, unkind, and hateful atheists, agnostics, and fanatics who will not be tortured and burned forever but will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths as the consequence of their arrogance and foolishness in insulting and opposing the CREATOR's Sovereignty and His CHRIST's authority and teachings.
Matt’s frustration with the caller interrupting could be so easily solved if he would just mute the caller while the hosts are talking. It would solve 90% of the problems this show runs into. The call screeners should explain to the caller that Matt will mute them while the hosts are talking because interruptions and background noise coming through the caller’s phone causes them to not be able to hear the hosts. Anyone who has watched the show consistently over the years know this, but many callers do not. They just need a simple explanation instead of frustrated Matt yelling at them, and they don’t understand why Matt is yelling at them to “shut up” or to keep repeating their name over and over again. It’s frustrating to watch as a viewer, and it wastes time.
This was ineffective at best. Matt approached this wrong entirely, you can't offhand wish away individual experience because that is what people find most compelling, even if we can't form objective conclusions based on them. Even if John is entirely truthful and explains his experience the way that he perceives it, that still does not make John's testimony accurate.
I have a different understanding of reality. The God's paradox is that it is impossible to exist existance without the existence of an impossibility or eternity. The God's paradox is resolved by being the impossibility made possible by God. I would not exist if an eternal entity didn't exist, what is impossible, therefore God exists because a miracle exists
Santa Klaus doesnt exist. theist: agrees. --doesnt say what evidence do u have to back up that claim. God doesnt exist. theist: hearsay. what evidence do you have?? You have no evidence to prove Santa doesnt exist , just like with God ,but .... Theist :look at the trees , thats evidence for God. Me:Well, look at the reindeers , thats's evidence for Santa Klaus.
What's the problem with testimonials? In the case of god they are unverifiable, otherwise testimonials would be evidence not anecdote. Fuck my brain hurts sometimes and it's my own fault I suppose.
Matt, if I'm not still blocked, I have a better example for poor human design than u use. It answers the design question and brings in evolution. Balls. Bad design for a martial species - its our turn off switch. Not bad design for four footed animals. Balls protected in back of animal. when we evolved into bi-pedalism, the balls ended up unprotected. BTW - you blocked me because of my emails on circumcision. 2 additional pts : 1. u say I was mutilated, I know my own mind - I wasn't. 2. Worse, much worse ,u put circumcision on the same level as clitorectomy.
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they missed the perfect opportunity when I said he'd want evidence of the attic pixies... "Why do you need evidence?" "Why not just believe?"
Here we go again, somebody got evidence of a sky magician. As usual they have none.
Do you have evidence that Christians believe in a sky magician? Or is that what you want to believe?
It’s so predictable
Well said
Matt is getting grumpier than ever. I guess that is what happens when you have heard the same silly arguments thousands of times.
I hope to be so grumpy some day!
Bro you should've been here last week. Nice name btw.
@@CycocelVocalist i wouldn't have had anywhere the patience he's displayed over the last two decades. Thanks for the compliment on the name. I have loved science and invention since I was a kid. I thought about using Michael Faraday.
The show sucks when there are hosts who roll over and let guests steamroll them with incoherent arguements and preaching. Matt is the best host because he doesn't let guests take an inch.
Matt keeps giving the same silly arguments
This caller has convinced me that souls exist; because I swear I can see Matt's leaving his body during this call.
😂
its his conciousness leaving to look at where john is. fly over there and slap some sense into the guy😂😂
Matt sold his soul to the devil 😈
@@tylercampbell6365And I sold my plumbus to Santa Claus.
Souls and spirits have zero evidence of existence
Re Pixie's in the attic: "I'd need to see the evidence." Good Dawg, that is the atheist's argument: there is NO EVIDENCE supporting the existence of a god or gods!
I like how Forrest addresses people on the phone, warm n encouraging.
He's the sort of dude you wanna see at 5 in the morning, getting to work n he greets you in the lunchroom, when your still tired.
I really wish Forrest was doing this show by himself. Matt is so rude for no reason.
@@GiaDiamond4 - I don't think it's for no reason, I think it's frustration. Having to explain the same point hundreds, if not thousands of times only to get "yeah, okay, but what about..." It's like being a teacher surrounded by children with learning disabilities and no matter how patient and thorough you are with your explanations they ask the same questions the very next day. A lot of these people have no experience with critical thinking or anything over a bare basic understanding of cosmology or biology. They are ignorant and have no desire to increase their understanding of these subjects because they have the Bible. In ten years Forrest will also be a Matt from dealing with those people.
@@donmiller2908 Then don’t host a show about atheism if you can’t handle a theist’s confusion/ignorance?
I mean, if they’re being bigoted or horrible, by all means go off. But this guy’s got an attitude as soon as they pick up.
For those of you that Claim to have "found god" and therefor now have "Personal Testimony", AND your god is Omnipotent, then I say = Pray/Talk to him for me. According to you, that "god" has proven himself to you. Tell him to Prove himself to me too.
Should be easy. There should be ZERO Excuses. So, go for it.
I can already tell you how that will go: “you’re not opening your heart enough and you don’t TRULY want to believe or get to know the Holy Spirit, yada yada yada….” Heard the bullshit for years trust me. So boring.
@@itsaboutthattime4425 The old hardened heart. It’s like the candy shell keeping that chocolate gullibility from melting in your hand.
Religious apologists have already given themselves a loophole to cover that problem with their fairy tale. Their imaginary gods don’t want to prove their existence because that would destroy your faith.
When you’ve been trying for thousands of years to convince people that your imaginary friends exist, you should eventually be able to plug up all the holes in the story.🤡
The excuse they’ll give is ‘you need faith’ or ‘you need to really be a believer’. There’s always a problem.
@@Stevenafoe They want you to believe in order to believe. Fake it till you make it. Ridiculous.
He should have said look at the trees so the call could have ended sooner
I had a testimony too of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and he told me that John is a liar.
See the problem with believing people with no evidence?
What’s the problem? I believe your testimony.🤡
Obviously you have been touched by his noodly appendage(s). PBUH-Peanut Butter Upon Him.
The FSM is real !! I talk to him regulalry, via Twitter !
Proof!!!
I find it so weird that people actually need getting explained how a subjective interpretation of something isn't a whole lot of use when you're trying to determine objective fact... Both parts are opposites....
and these people fucking VOTE??!?!?!
No, these people are the majority 😅
Attic pixies: Attic--part of a building structure.
Joke: Do attic pixies eat dust bunnies?
*****No, they eat pixie dust.
Yes they do vote - for Republicans.
Vote and reproduce.
at some point you'll realize that this whole voting system (ie go vt ) is a sham and you are being played. It's the next level religion, complete with brainwashing and indoctrination
"If you're going to call in bring your A-Game" lol .... Uhhh Matt, that was the A game.
I’m still waiting for the line “it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove”. Not the same context as the original use of the quote, but still applies nicely I think.
"It doesn't matter what you do, it only matters what people think you did."
- [From a movie, I forgot the name.]
I have studied religious people with interest for several decades. My conclusion is that all theists know that 'in their hearts' (as they would say) that they have no reason for their purported belief and spend their lives trying to supress cognitive dissonance. Usually this takes the form of trying to convince others because that apparently helps them rationalize their own 'faith'.
There's some truth to that. Tenuous beliefs seek validation from others. Profound personal experiences on the other hand, do not care if anyone else believes it or not. Most religionists do not ever have profound personal experiences that remove all doubt. I have had such experiences (it was wonderful!). But I get it, the point of religion is to encourage people to grow toward perfection, which is a soul-struggle, and most people are too lazy to do that.
Matt's criticisms of religion are logical and understandable, given the evolutionary nature of the Bible, and its self-contradictory messages. No, the Bible does not contain any irrefutable evidence for God, nor will there ever be material proof of a non-material being. Personal experiences are all that's available to any of us. And psychology being what it is, people usually misconstrue what they think they know. But in the end, subjective personal experience is all we ever "know". [So called "objective" reality is always filtered through our subjective consciousness.]
I agree. I eventually arrived at that conclusion. The majority of them already know.. They are just not honest with themselves or anyone else, about why they are so desperate to pretend to believe in something they know isn't true..
One verse in the bible, proves beyond argument, that what it says in the story isn't true. You do not need convoluted arguments, claims of historical evidence, religious scholars, with complex abstract logical arguments, testimonies etc.
Mathew 21.21-22 Clearly states, every believer has amazing magical powers and will be given anything they ask for... (An end to child poverty and disease, war and the end of atheism, you would think might be high on this list)?
100 billion individual evidences, over 2,000 years, of every claimed believer, not being able, to demonstrate and completely failing to do any of these things, constitutes overwhelming and irrefutable proof that the claims in the book are false.. The number gets added to every day.. 🤷♂️
I have a family of religious people in various faiths: JWs, Evangelicals, Catholics. My observation is most fall in two categories. God of the gap, Pascal wedgers. One family member is extremely religious and is also the most educated ( PhD in electronic). This family member applies critical thinking every where, except when it comes to religion. I have seen very few people show this type of dissonance. This person literally believes Noah's ark, believes the earth is 6k years old, cites the bible at every opportunity,... I'm tempted to ask him to call this show and debate atheists.
@@henrim9348 It's always unsettling seeing otherwise decent and intelligent people attesting to harmful nonsense with such disdain for reason due to a pet indoctrination.
I may have cognitive dissonance about some things, but a lot of what's written in the Bible I have no cognitive dissonance about whatsoever. When it says adultery is a bad thing, I'm fully in agreement with it. When it says promiscuity and drunkenness are bad, I'm also in fully agreement with it. MUCH of the world has cognitive dissonance about those topics. Their life is like a darn rollercoaster where they're partying and loving life one evening and the next morning are filled with shame because they don't know the stranger in their bed.
"that's the whole point of thinking"!!! LOVE IT!!!
There’s nothing wrong with personal testimony. Harry Potter told me that Hogwarts Academy exists.😜
That's a pretty dangerous educational institution. Wouldn't send MY little witch or wizard there.
The time to believe in something is when there is valid and verified evidence supporting its existence.
Without valid and verified evidence, belief is not warranted.
So you want Mother Earth to prove Her existence to you?
@@chyfields the earth has been proven to exist.
The idea that the earth is a supernatural being is a claim backed by no valid or verified evidence.
Unless you believe you have valid and verified evidence for that claim?
How many testimonies would it take to convince you? Many people have communicated telepathically with our home planet (ask any indigenous species).
I, too, have been privileged to have had the opportunity to communicate with Mother Earth. She told me that She has guided the development of human consciousness and can reverse that process too.
@@chyfields personal testimony is not valid nor verified evidence. I'm not saying you're lying or not experiencing a phenomenon. I'm just saying there's no method for independent verification for what you're experiencing.
Can this communication you're experiencing be independently measured?
Can it be accurately reproduced every time it's investigated?
Without an independent method for verifying your experience, then it cannot be considered valid or verified.
@@chyfields What BS don’t you believe in?
What annoys me the most is that this specific program (and maaaaany others) have explained countless times that personal experiences are not evidence. So why do they keep bringing it up? It is just so pointless....
Learn something from the explanations and move on!
A story about a personal experience can be a lie, the person could have dreamt it, had an hallucination, did drugs, epilepsy (which causes i.e. hypoxia and obe's), brain damage etc.
Stop wasting time, it is never going to be evidence. Ever.
If you need it explaining why PERSONAL testimony is not acceptable it shows you're not listening
"yeah you can discredit people's beliefs if they're ridiculous that's the whole point of thinking" - quote of the day
Matt is the sharpest edged knife on the show. He suffers no bullshit and he keeps things rolling along. If you’ve followed the program for a bit you see by now that impatience is his personal colophon. What makes it hard on my anxiety isn’t his irritability so much as it is the cellular lag time with callers that results in the host and guest unintentionally talking over each other and clipping their sentences. In other words, it ain’t Matt, it’s Ma Bell.
B-But what about magic tho? - John essentially.
"ARE YOU EATING?!"
I was munching grapes and felt attacked by this lmao. Startled the shit out of me. Sorry to disrespect you, Matt.
"Doesn't sound like you're open to it." That can be a very harmless statement, but it's also used by some of the worst people. Manipulators.
"you can discredit people's beliefs if you think they are ridiculous. That is the whole point of thinking."!!!
I heard something in my attic ... I thought it might be a bird nest but I can't rule out pixies
Oh look, another theist who either doesn't know how to evaluate evidence, or doesn't care to know how to evaluate evidence. "God is real because I experienced it." Well then I guess you've made the greatest scientific discovery of all time. I don't know why the scientific community hasn't figured this out. Brilliant logic.
Well done guys
Keep it going for all our lives
Stay Free
There might be pixies on another planet . Small intelligent insects that are able to communicate to earthlings
John wouldn't turn testimony on pixies down but he wants to see evidence.
Hope is not lost for John.
There is nothing wrong with personal testimony , when that is what it is ,but sometimes it is hard to tell truth from lies
Even if the personal testimony you've just heard is heartfelt, sincere and you're 100% positive the person giving it really believes that what they're saying is true...so what?
How does that get you any closer to the truth? How do you know their testimony describes events that actually occurred? How do you know it isn't a chemical imbalance in their brains causing periodic hallucinations or an un-diagnosed case of early onset Alzheimers? When you say "There is nothing wrong with personal testimony" please explain how it's used to benefit anyone or anything. I'd really like to know.
There seems to be an organized effort to gum up the works in the show. Huzzah to the effort to smoke them out and dismiss them quickly.
Here's why personal testimony/revelation is not reliable - You have a Christian, Buddhist and Hindu in a room together. The Christian says he met Jesus. The Buddhist says he met Buddha. The Hindu says he met Vishnu. Which one is telling the truth? You don't know until they provide empirical evidence, at which point it's no longer personal testimony/revelation
Are Keebler Elves supernatural or a conspiracy created by Nabisco?
I call bullshit on his, "I'd be completely open to it," about pixies. No-he-would-not
After watching dozens of these videos, I have pretty much become convinced that it is OK to believe in Space Pixies. At least Space Pixies, have no stories about them condoning slavery, committing mass murder, and ordering genocide!
BIBLE , the board game....Awesome
Personal testimony isn’t even enough for a verdict in court, why should be enough to warrant any belief? Especially an extraordinary one
Who else thinks "My Attic Pixies" would be a great band name? 😅🤔
"give us the evidence"
"Ur not open to the evidence!"
"Please just give us the evidence"
"Why won't you let me give my evidence!?!"
???????
Forrest, good to have you on. Matt has completely lost patience with most callers.
I'm tempted to ask a very Christian relative to call one of the shows . I have lost patience with him as well. I know Matt will yell at him in less than a minute.
Yeah, what's the point of having Matt talk to people. He is quick-tempered.
@@ryanfloch6054 who wouldnt be tempered to hear the same nonsense for more than 10 years??
i dont think such saints exists.
@@andrewjonas6437 Then you shouldn't ask those people to come talk to you.
The Dillahunty Dodge
Attic pixies / Spagetti monsters ....have we word salad at all??
"That's the whole point of thinking." 🤣
What a surprise, another theist with no evidence🙄🤦🏼♂️
Attic pixies--Attic: is part of a building structure.
Joke: Do attic pixies eat dust bunnies?
******No, they eat pixie dust.
Prove it.
Oh yeah!...What color dose a smurf turn if you choke it?.huh huh?
Joke: Do leprechauns eat lucky charms?
*****No, they eat four leaf clover.
@@dianahill5116 🤣
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Personal experience, testimony, miracles, prophecy, written texts, and “numbers of
believers “ has to be the easiest bullshit to debunk that “supernatural sky daddies” exist!
5:34 Problem is that that probably WAS his A game.
From the hundreds of hours like many have watched Matt is defo less patient these days , hanging up before ge gives the Co host an opportunity to interact with the caller also seems to happen more , still a great host 👍, nobodies perfect
"Does Hogs Meade village in Harry Potter movies exists"?
Give us your scientific evidence for God. Okay, well a, bla ba ba duh, blip bop bip, uh.
Can you give us your scientific evidence for God? Duh, ba la la.
Do you even have any scientific evidence for God? Well uh, so, da ba ba, doobie loobie na.
That's what I thought.
I can jump up and fly do you just believe or do you need proof!
Why is it so many callers to AE refuse to get to the point when asked? They always go off on a tangent.
I live in an attic. Can I be a pixie??
John talks while he's eating.
I hope he's got a handkerchief tucked in his shirt, & no one's setting across from him.
Another one bites the dust.
Personal testimony? Hilarious
The Pixies in Forrest's attic and I go out drinking sometimes.
1) That's my testimony, so it must be valid.
2) You can't prove we DON'T go out drinking.
i thought the pixies broke up[. are they getting the band back together?
Buy I can't show you the pixies in my attic because they only appear or talk to me.
My testimony, I had a wonderful experience with god. So now YOU have to believe in my god, listen to me and believe everything I say. You have to do what ever I tell you to do and live your life only in the ways that I say you can live. I require complete power over you and your life, and you have to give me money! All this becasue "I" believe in god."
Matt is waaaay too sensitive to what he perceives as being interrupted. Like, its true that he often is straight up interrupted by callers who have no focus. However, a lot of times its as innocuous as a caller simply showing basic "I'm listening to you" type social cues such as saying "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" etc. As long as the caller isn't doing that as an attempt to shut you down or interject, there's no need to get all angry over being "interrupted." It's just weird and its essentially Matt derailing himself.
I don't think it's being too sensitive. Using social cues you understand that when other people are speaking, you stop speaking. So when he starts to speak and hears "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" etc. he stops speaking and waits for them to finish. They acknowledge they're done, he begins to speak again and hears "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" etc. It's maddening and would irritate the hell out of me. My daughter does that on the phone, constantly interrupting with "uh huh" or "okay" or "right" to the point where I've hung up on her. It isn't necessary to do that and is a very bad habit. Let the person finish what they're saying. No one needs constant reinforcement that they're being heard.
He's absolutely terrible at this.
This should be fun
Personal testimony would indulge delusion according to Buddhist interpretation.
He can't even be honest about eating...
isn't "supernatural" a broad conclusion, tho?
once people say "I saw something supernatural" they are already jumping the gun about the cause
There's nothing wrong with personal testimony for the person giving it. It's not worth much for anyone else.
And I wonder why people believe in conspiracy theories?? If someone can believe in an omniscient God, they can believe anything!
ARE YOU EATING 🤔 lol
John doesn’t have anything to say in contribution to the “what is god/is there god” discussion. He just wants people to listen to him, and say that you’re not being open enough when you question him.
Maybe it’s you John that’s not open minded enough?
John, Liar, liar bums on fire 😄
This guy isn't an honest interlocutor, but it seems kind of like he wants to be. He's just kind of socially broken so he can't handle two way interactions.
I get the feeling that theist with WEAK "faith" call atheist shows to reinforce their "faith".
Weak faith are those who give up on God before they've encountered Him. God Himself said, "You will seek me and find me when you seek me with ALL YOUR HEART. "
@@johnnyblue9120 Faith is the glorification of voluntary ignorance.
@@johnnyblue9120 yes and I'm sure all those who were in the faith who did everything thing to the braking point but found nothing and became athiest are just spotting nonsense.
@@johnnyblue9120 Thanks for confirming my hypothesis!
@@johnnyblue9120 ...and Spider-Mans uncle Ben said: "With great power, comes great responsibility!"
I feel sorry for John, "the god he defends" just leaves him hanging there, surely god could help John
to win the debate against a couple of humans!
I believe in God and THIS is hilarious!!!
The whole point of thinking? What's that?
🤔
So what if he’s eating? Is Matt his father?
it shows how so not serious the caller was
I like this duo
In all fairness to the idiotic callers… Matt often interrupts or interjects when people are talking yet loses his shit when they do it. I get the grumpiness but just be fair. I still enjoy hearing the bad thinking and we need to forgive a little bit of conversational normalcy.
Scientific testimony
John was not too bright, was he.
I used to like this show
People can come up with any bullshit ... so much for "personal testimony".
It's interesting. If you have "the truth" how come these people.always have a hard time stringing normal sentences together, or even comprehend words? They seem insecure and quite frankly lacking in the cognition department. Now is that because "the truth" is so great it fries their brains....or is there another reason?
I can have had experiences with God I can recreate. I can do it with drugs or imitating starvation through fasting. Strange ways to recreate a god.
Grammar, man! You are having an experience, how do you know it's god? Which god?
@@radioactivetrees9626 I am an atheist so take a guess
@@n0etic_f0x ALL RELIGIONS through its ANTI-CHRISTS Pastors and Leaders produce and breed foolish, liars, unkind, and hateful atheists, agnostics, and fanatics who will not be tortured and burned forever but will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths as the consequence of their arrogance and foolishness in insulting and opposing the CREATOR's Sovereignty and His CHRIST's authority and teachings.
yep, running science experiments on your god experiences. for me it was breathing/holding breath
Here's my testimony for John - I used to believe in God until I was about 10 years old. Now I don't. Do you believe my testimony John?
Matt’s frustration with the caller interrupting could be so easily solved if he would just mute the caller while the hosts are talking. It would solve 90% of the problems this show runs into. The call screeners should explain to the caller that Matt will mute them while the hosts are talking because interruptions and background noise coming through the caller’s phone causes them to not be able to hear the hosts. Anyone who has watched the show consistently over the years know this, but many callers do not. They just need a simple explanation instead of frustrated Matt yelling at them, and they don’t understand why Matt is yelling at them to “shut up” or to keep repeating their name over and over again. It’s frustrating to watch as a viewer, and it wastes time.
Good point 👍
Let me prove god by stuttering, humming and ahhing because that's how god sends his message
OY VEY
I'll do my best to vote
Just how unproductive was MK Ultra anyhow? Just sayin.
Sone crazy people don't know they"re crazy
Crazy is as crazy does.
This was ineffective at best. Matt approached this wrong entirely, you can't offhand wish away individual experience because that is what people find most compelling, even if we can't form objective conclusions based on them. Even if John is entirely truthful and explains his experience the way that he perceives it, that still does not make John's testimony accurate.
Here comes scientific evidence for god. Oh, nope. All he can give us is personal testimony. Matt is so damn grumpy. LOL.
I have a different understanding of reality. The God's paradox is that it is impossible to exist existance without the existence of an impossibility or eternity. The God's paradox is resolved by being the impossibility made possible by God. I would not exist if an eternal entity didn't exist, what is impossible, therefore God exists because a miracle exists
no
Matt has absolutely no patience. The caller could exhale and he would get upset. It’s getting frustrating watching these now.
It's frustrating listening to theist.
Santa Klaus doesnt exist.
theist: agrees. --doesnt say what evidence do u have to back up that claim.
God doesnt exist.
theist: hearsay. what evidence do you have??
You have no evidence to prove Santa doesnt exist , just like with God ,but ....
Theist :look at the trees , thats evidence for God.
Me:Well, look at the reindeers , thats's evidence for Santa Klaus.
And another theist falls flat on their face.....
😂🤣
Has scientific evidence but wants to lead with his strongest evidence testimonial. So lets stall around talking about testimonials.
What's the problem with testimonials? In the case of god they are unverifiable, otherwise testimonials would be evidence not anecdote. Fuck my brain hurts sometimes and it's my own fault I suppose.
Matt, if I'm not still blocked, I have a better example for poor human design than u use. It answers the design question and brings in evolution. Balls. Bad design for a martial species - its our turn off switch. Not bad design for four footed animals. Balls protected in back of animal. when we evolved into bi-pedalism, the balls ended up unprotected. BTW - you blocked me because of my emails on circumcision. 2 additional pts : 1. u say I was mutilated, I know my own mind - I wasn't. 2. Worse, much worse ,u put circumcision on the same level as clitorectomy.