Well remember what MoM says about “we”. As in they’re all one being. Just like darkness. So more than likely he just needed wielders to deceive and manipulate for there to be more darkness. They’re all just darkness. The only ones who stand were ones who weren’t easily manipulated. That’s why they make sora seem so dumb and why he subjected to xehanort in DDD. I wouldn’t doubt sora or riku or yozora having to fight both of them at the same time
@@zedleppilen1636 yes that’s true and Xehanort was just a puppet in Luxu’s and the MoM’s plan, but I think Luxu is going to betray the master eventually.
@@rileyduncan3927 if so then he lets brain know of his role and or plan of being the “virus” in the system. I truly believe that brain to braig isn’t much a difference. Luxu to Brain. Tell me something then. If Eraqus is a descendant of brain, how come he didn’t bequeath no name? How come it was given to xehanort? Because he had an abstract mind if “darkness” and “light”? No because so was Riku. Riku chose a path to dawn and was not easily manipulated. There’s a reason they wear the coats
You basically just told this without most of the confusing parts and I appreciate it! I really can't wait to see exactly what this part of the lore leads up to in the future of KH and how it will play out. Also see if we had any major hints to what was going to happen but we just didn't know at the time.
@@DeafSavage it exists in a place outside of both the Realms of Light and Darkness, it is near some kind of infinite Void, and has skyscrapers the likes of which are rarely seen in Kingdom Hearts. Outside of a dark corridor connected to Twilight Town there is no passage connecting the World that Never was to the Realm of Light, and it is implied that the Sage Ansem had owned the abandoned mansion within Twilight Town. Ansem does not have a keyblade, but does have access to the same Ark that apprentice Xehanort used to send Kairi to Destiny Islands while worrying about it sending her to “some world of neither light nor darkness”
@@sh4d0wfl4re that would be cool but in MoM Ansem the Wise listed all the realms in the real world. Light, Darkness, Nothing, Data, and Sleep. The World that Never Was is in the realm of Nothing, it’s between Light and Darkness.
@@Nerwrax15 yea and in KH2 remember they said that so many heartless and nobodies show up there because it’s so close to the realm of darkness and it also showed up in the realm of sleep so it’s definitely on the side we know of already.
Imagine that the MOM body we see now is like what xehanort did to his body to see his younger self just a figure that tells the roles of what the fortellers had to do. Just like future xehanort telling his younger self what to do to continue their story/mission.
I think a lot of people are thinking that the masters eye stops observing when the epilogue happened. But technically the gazing eye is still seeing things so the master knows what’s to come as well. Maybe it wasn’t on the book. But if logic is followed then he’s still able to see in the past
From what I understand the master himself tweet with Destiny kind of like saying words but on a more higher level to make sure everything in the book happened not just written but the way he saw fit best personal use
Great video my guy!!! You should do a video on how the foretellers will be incorporated in the next few games. Will they blindly follow the MoM or have their own plans?
I believe it's been that we no ven it is from the past we are so can stand to believe that sore the others for some reason are connected to this past as well in a different way
Master Ava regardless of her sweet and humble Devotion to the master despite everything she heard luxu she had to do what you had to do even if that meant rebelling against her master she couldn't stick to that path knowing that will cause harm so whatever happened to her she disappeared with someday she will return as well regardless of her role
I will always defend union x. Because yeah, its a gotcha game, but its relatively fair, yeah the game play isn't great. However, when the game is focused, thr story is amazing, and honestly even when it isn't focused as their always developing the main characters.
This one got me thinking about how every guardian of light except Kairi and mickey have been touched by darkness in some way. How will the Foretellers pass judgement? And secondly, if Kairi goes to save Sora and leaves the KHverse, will it throw off the balance of light with one of the princesses gone? There are so many questions and possibilities it spins my brain
My friend and I both have opposite opinions of the Master of Masters, with him thinking he is more of a good guy and me seeing him as the cause of all the bad things in Kingdom Hearts. His eye in the Keyblade lets him see into the future, which means in theory he purposely gave his apprentices contradictory roles as a way to cause the Keyblade War instead of prevent it (thus leading to the rise of Xehanort). My one friend on the other hand feels like the war was going to happen eventually anyway, which I disagree with as the MoM pitting them against each other was what caused the war in the first place.
I disagree 8:17, Khx is part of dark seeker saga and also part of the next saga, you’re not wrong it’s separate but one thing for sure it’s connected to both sagas and whats to come in the future
I actually think Sora is the traitor, the x, because he betrays the Book of Prophecy, the part where Darkness wins. The Master of Master uses the "traitor" as a proxy to make Light win. However, Ventus is connected to Sora and influences his path.
I'm talking about the Browser Game Kingdom Hearts X[chi] , the mobile games were Kingdom Hearts Unchained X and Union X. Which are based off of the Japan Browser Game that came out in 2013.
@@ProdigyxCDoh okay I am guessing that they must have updated the mobile version and gave it a new name. Because if you look on Google play with your mobile device and input Kingdom Hearts, it will come up as Kingdom Hearts Union X/Dark Road
something interesting that was pointed out by flygon is that the foretellers and alot of nobodys act the opposite of what they're deadly sins are supposed to be which probably means they turn to darkness at some point to become their actual sin
hey i posted this on the discord server i'm going to share this here aswell edit: deleted the discord timestamps we talked about this a while back and we agreed on a conclusion the traitor is ava according to master of masters, the traitor is among the foretellers and the master of master made ava make sure that light wins way before darkness attacked which definetly should be a change of fate even if just a little which means that mom intented ava to be the traitor and if we look the other way around, every single foreteller failed his mission except ava. aced wasnt at the side of ira, ira didnt lead anybody they did what they wanted, gula didnt find the traitor and even gave away his missing page, the snake girl was supposed to make sure that everybody gets along but only followed ira and at the one time she wasnt she was fighting aced (?) with gula instead of making peace. (lmao) and ava did her job well but she didnt follow her heart like the others, her heart said help the other foretellers, but she didnt do it she was the only one following moms orders and focussed on the future alone. (thanks to ephimer i assume but thats another story) so no matter how you spin it, its ava
It’s either Luxu or Master of masters thats going to be the main villain of the next saga.
Well remember what MoM says about “we”. As in they’re all one being. Just like darkness. So more than likely he just needed wielders to deceive and manipulate for there to be more darkness. They’re all just darkness. The only ones who stand were ones who weren’t easily manipulated. That’s why they make sora seem so dumb and why he subjected to xehanort in DDD. I wouldn’t doubt sora or riku or yozora having to fight both of them at the same time
I'm hoping luxu grows a pair,and betrays MoM
@@flygonkerel781 what do you mean a growing a pair?
@@zedleppilen1636 yes that’s true and Xehanort was just a puppet in Luxu’s and the MoM’s plan, but I think Luxu is going to betray the master eventually.
@@rileyduncan3927 if so then he lets brain know of his role and or plan of being the “virus” in the system. I truly believe that brain to braig isn’t much a difference. Luxu to Brain. Tell me something then. If Eraqus is a descendant of brain, how come he didn’t bequeath no name? How come it was given to xehanort? Because he had an abstract mind if “darkness” and “light”? No because so was Riku. Riku chose a path to dawn and was not easily manipulated. There’s a reason they wear the coats
You basically just told this without most of the confusing parts and I appreciate it! I really can't wait to see exactly what this part of the lore leads up to in the future of KH and how it will play out. Also see if we had any major hints to what was going to happen but we just didn't know at the time.
Kingdom Hearts Union X Back Cover for 2021/2022
Imagine all the lost masters being the seven darknesses of “this new game”
So thanks to KHMoM I had a shower thought about “the World that Never was”
Did the Organization make a castle within Unreality?
You know what... that's an interesting theory.
@@DeafSavage it exists in a place outside of both the Realms of Light and Darkness, it is near some kind of infinite Void, and has skyscrapers the likes of which are rarely seen in Kingdom Hearts. Outside of a dark corridor connected to Twilight Town there is no passage connecting the World that Never was to the Realm of Light, and it is implied that the Sage Ansem had owned the abandoned mansion within Twilight Town. Ansem does not have a keyblade, but does have access to the same Ark that apprentice Xehanort used to send Kairi to Destiny Islands while worrying about it sending her to “some world of neither light nor darkness”
@@sh4d0wfl4re that would be cool but in MoM Ansem the Wise listed all the realms in the real world. Light, Darkness, Nothing, Data, and Sleep. The World that Never Was is in the realm of Nothing, it’s between Light and Darkness.
@@29Blockhead exactly, Unreality is definitely not a place most of the cast have been to before.
@@Nerwrax15 yea and in KH2 remember they said that so many heartless and nobodies show up there because it’s so close to the realm of darkness and it also showed up in the realm of sleep so it’s definitely on the side we know of already.
Imagine that the MOM body we see now is like what xehanort did to his body to see his younger self just a figure that tells the roles of what the fortellers had to do. Just like future xehanort telling his younger self what to do to continue their story/mission.
The idea that Luxu could be the MoMs' young self has crossed my mind before.
Love the content Prodigy! Keep it up dude
I think a lot of people are thinking that the masters eye stops observing when the epilogue happened. But technically the gazing eye is still seeing things so the master knows what’s to come as well. Maybe it wasn’t on the book. But if logic is followed then he’s still able to see in the past
How the helll you telll the story more interesting than the movie itself Prodigy?? Lmao loved it!
From what I understand the master himself tweet with Destiny kind of like saying words but on a more higher level to make sure everything in the book happened not just written but the way he saw fit best personal use
Great video my guy!!! You should do a video on how the foretellers will be incorporated in the next few games. Will they blindly follow the MoM or have their own plans?
Thank You!! Also, I'd totally be down to do something like that ^_^
Interesting that’s for sure
I believe it's been that we no ven it is from the past we are so can stand to believe that sore the others for some reason are connected to this past as well in a different way
If they were going to do a movie about the keyblade wars, they might have at least had ONE mass battle sequence!...
Master Ava regardless of her sweet and humble Devotion to the master despite everything she heard luxu she had to do what you had to do even if that meant rebelling against her master she couldn't stick to that path knowing that will cause harm so whatever happened to her she disappeared with someday she will return as well regardless of her role
I will always defend union x. Because yeah, its a gotcha game, but its relatively fair, yeah the game play isn't great. However, when the game is focused, thr story is amazing, and honestly even when it isn't focused as their always developing the main characters.
This one got me thinking about how every guardian of light except Kairi and mickey have been touched by darkness in some way. How will the Foretellers pass judgement? And secondly, if Kairi goes to save Sora and leaves the KHverse, will it throw off the balance of light with one of the princesses gone? There are so many questions and possibilities it spins my brain
My friend and I both have opposite opinions of the Master of Masters, with him thinking he is more of a good guy and me seeing him as the cause of all the bad things in Kingdom Hearts. His eye in the Keyblade lets him see into the future, which means in theory he purposely gave his apprentices contradictory roles as a way to cause the Keyblade War instead of prevent it (thus leading to the rise of Xehanort). My one friend on the other hand feels like the war was going to happen eventually anyway, which I disagree with as the MoM pitting them against each other was what caused the war in the first place.
I disagree 8:17, Khx is part of dark seeker saga and also part of the next saga, you’re not wrong it’s separate but one thing for sure it’s connected to both sagas and whats to come in the future
Ha! You said “seeked” 😅 it’s sought bro
Ventus is the traitor the book of prophecy was just tell a future event and not a now situation
I actually think Sora is the traitor, the x, because he betrays the Book of Prophecy, the part where Darkness wins. The Master of Master uses the "traitor" as a proxy to make Light win. However, Ventus is connected to Sora and influences his path.
Interesting 🧐 hmmmm
Do you suppose that the masters disappeared, in their war, because luxu summoned them, after Xehanort’s war?
I'd wager they were summoned back from Unreality, they were "summoned back" meaning they were someone else besides the Keyblade Graveyard.
It wasn't exclusive to Japan it was also in america as a mobile game.
I played it and liked it.
I'm talking about the Browser Game Kingdom Hearts X[chi] , the mobile games were Kingdom Hearts Unchained X and Union X. Which are based off of the Japan Browser Game that came out in 2013.
@@ProdigyxCDoh okay
I am guessing that they must have updated the mobile version and gave it a new name. Because if you look on Google play with your mobile device and input Kingdom Hearts, it will come up as Kingdom Hearts Union X/Dark Road
Oops my bad forgot to read all of your comment
@@ProdigyxCD sorry forgot to finish reading ur comment
Why did I waste my time watching this lol
something interesting that was pointed out by flygon is that the foretellers and alot of nobodys act the opposite of what they're deadly sins are supposed to be which probably means they turn to darkness at some point to become their actual sin
hey i posted this on the discord server i'm going to share this here aswell
edit: deleted the discord timestamps
we talked about this a while back and we agreed on a conclusion
the traitor is ava
according to master of masters, the traitor is among the foretellers and the master of master made ava make sure that light wins way before darkness attacked which definetly should be a change of fate even if just a little which means that mom intented ava to be the traitor and if we look the other way around, every single foreteller failed his mission except ava.
aced wasnt at the side of ira, ira didnt lead anybody they did what they wanted, gula didnt find the traitor and even gave away his missing page, the snake girl was supposed to make sure that everybody gets along but only followed ira and at the one time she wasnt she was fighting aced (?) with gula instead of making peace. (lmao) and ava did her job well but she didnt follow her heart like the others, her heart said help the other foretellers, but she didnt do it she was the only one following moms orders and focussed on the future alone. (thanks to ephimer i assume but thats another story) so no matter how you spin it, its ava