I'll be 51 next week and I still to this day keep up with the way sounds of music is evolving. Can't be stuck in the past but still stick to the roots.
The problem is Older Producers are thinking they have to make music for Teenie Boopers to make money. Chasing waves instead of just creating what comes from your heart & soul is a Bigger Issue. My advise is Just Make Good Music & The Artist thats meant for your music will find you.
Exactly, I know my production style/ skill set and if I was to try to produce like the younger producers I would get laughed out the room because that is not me. Now I'm not just making boom bap but I'm talking about that ovoxo sound and that older trap sound. That is my pocket, I don't work with 100s of artists but I have a healthy rotation of artist that come to me for beats.
I completely agree. Focusing on trends can often lead to losing sight of what makes your music unique. Creating from the heart and staying true to your style will always resonate with the right audience. The artists who connect with your music will find it, and that’s the key to longevity in the industry.
I’m 46 .. some stuff just ain’t my bop.. I make music for spitters/ lyricists. Boom bap with up to date techniques and sounds. There is no “bring back” something that is a staple .. removing the boom bap is like taking the guitar out of rock n roll or the sax out of jazz.
I hear what you're saying (52 years old here), and i agree with 100%, but let me say one word "Griselda".They showed how an "older" sound can be made current.
Then you've got The Alchemist and Dj Muggs, proving that if you know Hip Hop you can continue to do sample based music without following new trends and sounds, collaborate with the younger generation, still be relevant and put out bangers!
Respect Bolo for this video.. over 40 but been at it forever. It's a passion so I can't stop. Quincy Jones had a monster hit at 50 so I stay optimistic At this point: i want a legacy, the money will come!
The thing about that is, These kids arent moving any units the Music industry is failing right now and it will eventually go back to musicianship and real song writing because the money aint there right now in one they are doing.
100% true, let alone the fact that many kids also recognize that the music of their generation ain't as good as the previous ones, especially the 80's and 90's...
@elketerbentzadik Bolo's context in this video is about producing in the context of the industry, i.e. label, indy, streams, social media, charts, radio, ect... This is not about what you feel or what you love to do in your spare time; it's about what the reality is, when you're an older producer, in this game / business.
I only agree with this if you're trying to chase broad mainstream success. Most of my music sound like synthwave/old school video game music and I ain't trying to change that. The people who like it, really enjoy it. I'd rather create a niche product from my heart and soul instead of chasing waves. I don't ride waves. I cruise in my own lane.
This is the comment as someone who don’t ride waves your own path is where it’s at. Because you cater to what you enjoy and bring people closer not only that you create what’s unique. Like you said u follow trends for only the mainstream as it’s always evolving at the end u can combine the two if u chose too.
I’m 54 and started learning to make beats four years ago just for fun. I also work on animation and believe that all music connects to its roots, just with updated elements. You’re absolutely right-you can’t force old styles on new generations; they won’t connect with it. Instead, it’s essential to understand what’s new, learn why people love it, and apply those ideas. Each generation creates what moves them to their groove. As someone from the 70s generation, I’ve seen massive changes in how music is made and produced. Keep up with the great videos and music!
I'm 62, and enjoyed some success during the late 90's/early 2000's. Semi-retired and enjoying the amazing tools available today. Got all my clones, got all the monos/polys I need...a few digital. But my newest purchase, the MPC Key37, is my dream machine. Got it three days ago and am like a duck to water with this thing. A fantastic time to be an electronic musician!
Sound advice. There is definitely a lane for boombap, just as there is a lane for jazz or salsa. Notice Bolo kept saying the young kids now, and if you want young kids business and to be on mainstream top 20 and compete for those spots, you have to sound current. Maybe it’s my feed, but I am hearing a lot of young kids do a lot of boombap beats though, definitely not in the top billboard 20 but the genre is still strong.
That maybe the reason why the wide appeal of hip hop is declining, because of the current sound that’s been placed in the forefront…and it’s been out for a while now, so shouldn’t it be considered “old” by now….i have my own style…comprised of influential genres like neo soul, hip hop, psychedelic, funk, and pop…..I’ll just say, be creative..be you… there’s an artist for everything
Bolo this is very good advise bro I just turned 41.. and honestly I’m doing both making beats for young artists and older artist… but definitely they ain’t trying to hear those old school beats.. and the best way for them is to sample old school but make sure your drums are modern and the patterns are on point
I'm 48 and I enjoy cooking up beats and releasing them independently.. you would be surprised at the BMI statements to see where your spins are coming from especially in clubs.. performance royalties etc
I need to learn how to do that. I’m just a hobbyist, but I have some heat. I just need to learn how to monetize and I don’t really want to have people coming to my studio because people be thirsty.
Well yes... but no... I would agree with you 100%... Until you notice the youth of today are largely less talented and less creative than when I was "coming up". That's why much of today's music is based on "beats" featuring samples of older music. It was unusual to see more than three names in the songwriter credits back in the 70's (and unusually it was two or one). Now it's not unusual to see 6, 7, even 8 "songwriters" in the credits for a song (even more)!!! So I think you're spot-on telling us "punks" not to impose our aesthetics on the youngsters, yes, but the reason some of us might have a hard time understanding why they might not be interested in our new tracks is because most of "their" music is based on "our" music. (Actually, it's more than _based on_ our music; it usually _is_ our music!)
With all due respect Bolo, that's a subjective opinion, my dude. 56 here and I literally just ended a session with one of my up and coming artists who is in his twenties and he digs that old school sh!t.
Exactly, and older producers who follow these kinds of guidelines are the same ones who will then complain about how similar all the beats are when they themselves are part of the problem...
My clientele is just not gonna be people who don't feel that soulful boom bap sound. That's what I do. And I can add the new sample pack vibe into it, but overall, it's gonna have that boom bap in it, even if its just the bass and the drums.
Producer BandPlay (Young Dolph’s producer) is the person to credit for Big X The Plug’s bangers Him and Cash Cobain sample some good music from the past Don’t count out the old school Summer Walkers biggest song right now “Heart of a Woman” is very simple old school
I strongly disagree here is why kendrick Lamar was able to beat drake in the beef by rapping like a old schooler so that’s mean there is a huge audience that is starving for that type of hip hop 2 Atlantic records drop like 50 artists 3 Gucci mane drop like his whole label 4 Kendrick Lamar is performing at the Super Bowl where is your modern artist at The point what I’m getting at you cannot as a artists put out all that crazy music and expect to become that major artist no matter what era we are in These artists these days are only going to make it so far you must produce music that everybody can feel and guess what ice cube just drop a song that went viral and he’s a grandpa there a multimillion dollar audience that still want that soul hip hop it is what it is
Kendrick could drop an album that sounds like the last poets and mfs would love it tho. I understand what bolo is saying too. You just gotta fit in where you fit in. Im 24 and do primarily sample based stuff, I gotta say the past 10 year with Al's evolution and all the gxfr movement has influenced me a lot, there's a big difference between the 90s sp1200 style shit and the drumless, slower, more deliberately lofi stuff that's hot now. Its just not "clubby." And not everything should be. But again, get in where you fit in.
Kendrick could drop an album that sounds like the last poets and mfs would love it tho. I understand what bolo is saying too. You just gotta fit in where you fit in. Im 24 and do primarily sample based stuff, I gotta say the past 10 year with Al's evolution and all the gxfr movement has influenced me a lot, there's a big difference between the 90s sp1200 style shit and the drumless, slower, more deliberately lofi stuff that's hot now. Its just not "clubby." And not everything should be. But again, get in where you fit in.
Ill be 50th next month i did a few collaborations this year with younger artists worked out well they weren't major artists still i learned a lot from the experience i plan on doing more collaborations in 2025 young or old artists. 🙏🏾
Children may not but it did make it into a movie which is another way that people can make money on music that sounds 'dated' as he put it. Every time a movie or TV show, or even video game, has to come up with background music for something that is supposed to be happening from 1980's-2010's then they are going to look for music that sounds like that era to try to bring people into the feeling of that time and that is an opportunity for people who make music that is still reminiscent of those eras. Especially if they just want that sound w/o paying to license an actual hit from then.
Expand your reach!! Those pop and European artists eat that shit up all day. Urban artist are one dimensional. Most of the urban music sound exactly the same song after song same sounds same patterns FIND AND DEFINE your audience. Stop trying to be the creepy old guy in the club. Go find that underground hip hop scene that want what you got, all those 90s R&B artist are still outside find them and breath life into their music. Chasing money will have you out here colorful as hell wearing speedos.
This is correct. Unfortunately, I do not enjoy making new style music. Too much splice and midi file editing for me, but I do not sell beats to people.
I totally agree if you're trying to work with younger artists yes By all means stay up to date...... but I've also heard a lot of younger people who are now discovering nineties and early 2000s Hip Hop and they are fascinated with the music because it sounds so different than what they know and the song structure is much better...... they always say that the Beats were much more simpler but effective
@BoloDaProducer I keep watching DJ reaction channels it is like they discovered gold give me a... and they all say the same thing...... it's something so real about it...... the music that they listen to now they're going to outgrow as adults give me a. But that old school s*** a lot of about real life and that's what they want to hear alarm say they can't even go back to listening to the current unless they're in a club
What you said at 3:44 is really important and I think deserves its own video. If you just blindly play tracks from the last ten years it’s real hard to tell what year they are from. It’s not hard to stick to this lane but it is like of boring. Age shouldnt matter as long as you are flexible
Make what you love and find somebody else who loves it too. If not just keep it and jam it for your own enjoyment. Matter of fact all my music is for my own enjoyment. If somebody hears it and likes it, cool. If they don’t, then as Bolo used to say: I really don’t care.
Really good advice. I started my first studio in 1980 and all that classic hardware I financed back then is still going strong as VST's. I'm 67 now and my number one thing whether it's DJ or recording is don't get stuck in the past. I regularly listen to top 20 lists from around the world. All my guys my age are stuck like you said.
This was a slept-on topic that needed to be addressed or talked about. I'm 52, and I've been producing for some time now, like the Cool Edit Pro days. LOL, I totally get it. You have to be a servant to the buyer. I'm excited to enter your beat submission the next time it's open. 😁 again another great video.
I'm over 40 and I'm all for new sounds. I'm not one of those old guys that feel like the old music is always the best. I'll tell a person in a heartbeat that some of the older music sounds dated compared to some of the new music.
I think some artist’s (not all) should stay true to themselves and their sound. Not that they can’t evolve, but if they the type of artist that like that sound that’s mostly associated with 80’s, 70’s then they should not do anything different because it messes up the brand. Good example is Ghostface or MFDoom, Swingout Sister
This is true. Also terminologies evolve as well. What we called Dnb back in the day is now being called Jungle by the youth. And as a jungle sweaty since the 90s it throws me sometimes. Haha. But, I’m just glad they’re obsessed with something, this is their era.
Another great topic…. I’ll admit, I’m kinda struggling with this… I’m about to turn 54 AND I didn’t start making beat until I was 45, I think…I usually run my beats by my kids… Sons are 35 & 31, and my daughter is 27…. A few years ago I let my daughter hear one of my beats and her response was “I like it, but it sounds OLD” 😳😂🤣🤔… Kibda crushed me a bit but one of my main objectives now is for my beats to NOT sound OLD…I also do this in my spare time so I just try to have fun and make what I like… Ima get a beat to you for review one day👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 How bout dem Lions!?😂
"also do this in my spare time so I just try to have fun and make what I like." This is a big heads up young ones. The math says you will have a very very small chance of making money so keep that in mind. it won't get better in the next few. Having fun with it is everything after that is realized.
I been in music production since I was 16 (1992) I’m 49 and I have had my share of music industry success. You are absolutely right about forcing old methods on a younger artist. I work with a younger producer and because of that, I learned FL studios and other methods that today’s younger producer are doing. Some of it is still tried and true others are like ahhhh I see. Even how they are marketing themselves. I have kids so I listen to what they’re listening to in the mix of the stuff I like. Also to get a sense of where your sound should be, pull up Apple music and listen to the curated playlist. You will definitely know where the sound of music is by the 10th song. Getting older with music production brings a level of maturity. The power to say I’m not producing music that promotes Sex, Money and Drugs. Or you are just like the YnGz and be like fuxx that…. I’m trying to get to the bag. At 40+ you shouldn’t be trying to get to the bag. You should already have that part of your life stable. Enjoy producing whatever music you like. Know when you involve people you will need to adjust, and let go of them damn Impeach The President drums. 😂 ✌🏾
I just turned 48 and the old heads that refuse to move on from the golden era and boom bap is such a peeve. Don't get me wrong, I love the old school hip hop, but I have a huge appreciation for the modern sound. Anyone who complains about "real hip hop" or telling me that the modern sound "isn't hip hop" just gets an eye roll from me. btw, early 2000s stuff is 20 years ago :-\
@@SoloEmpireOfficial you can find anything that still being made. Folks are still making fire disco and funk tracks today. My point isn’t that boombap doesn’t exist but more the old heads that refuse to give anything else a chance. There’s quality everywhere if you look for it just like there’s an audience for anything if you can find it. Bitching that the new kids don’t like boom bap does nothing for anyone. Finding the people who appreciate it and locking in on that scene is where it’s at.
I don't make music for kids I make music for people that like my music! This is straight up bad advice that I highly disagree with! Even the Bible warns of thinking in this way!
Yea this definitely hit you personally oldhead. This video is for PROFESSIONAL or ASPIRING PROFESSIONALS not hobbyist. If you make music for yourself and don’t want to make money from it then there is no problem with your thought process.
I’m so glad you gave this message. As a 54 year old producer I run my tracks by my boys, 10-16. If they don’t rock with it, that ain’t it. I still have my music for me and a fan base. Have to be real with yourself. New Jack Swing might have a resurgence. 😂😂😂
Fellow 44 year old here. When I heard that song that recently interpolated Blue by Eiffel 65 I couldn't believe they were referencing such a new song; until I realized it was 25 years old. My soul wept a bit.
I'm 54 and i hear you loud n clear. Anyway, Hip Hop was always about staying fresh and on the leading edge, so us oldies should know that anyway! I also recognise that allot of this new stuff sounds weak too in comparison to those old hard beats!
I totally agree with you Bolo,I'm turning 42 in January and I must say what's gotten me this far is staying updated with the time and sound,I mostly work with cats in their early 20s sometimes even teens so I totally get where you coming from,in fact I be telling these kids to stay fresh....Dope Vide Once Again...I think you should do more basic advice videos like these.Bless Up🙏🏾💯
This eludes to an issue with urban music. I think we shouldn't be trying to make music for kids. The kids already got that! We isolate our own age group. I'm 45. I been making music since I was in high school in the 90's. And personally, I don't listen to the kids music or even any modern hip hop today. Cause it's not made for my age group. I feel weird listening to the stuff I used to listen when I was young. I make music for my age group, cause so few do. These kids got their stuff on lock. My teen kids don't like any of my stuff, and that's fine. I don't make it for them.
Bolo Da Producer ? some of these youngsters never heard of a lot of oldies songs. like for example: you can play "roger and zapp more bounce to the ounce" and they would be like "WHO SING THAT ?"
I agree with Bolo when it comes to hip hop. I'm a house music producer, and I think u can get away with a little bit more. Also, it depends on the artist. I noticed hip hop producers let the artist tell them how to produce. You're the creator and should make that understood.
You have choices to work with who you can feel that rhythm. I'm 54 and I have try to work with younger people that wanted certain music. I mosty like good and real communication with people, nobody that head is Blown up, not waisting producers time. That comes with any age. Good Video for me too, I can get stuck
Having to adapt is tough, I'm not gonna lie, but at the same time, I can't lie to myself. I'm not into what this generation is into, but I am EXTREMELY thankful that there are still groups out there, such as Griselda, that are keeping that branch of Hip Hop alive, but modernized.
Thanks from a 44 year old producer lol . This will help my future bolo. But u ain’t lying some of my 2015 beats still sound good today . Keep bringing the knowledge my bro ❤️💯💪🏽👑🎶🎶🎶
im 42 now, when I was 18 dj premier was 36, I thought he was the coolest man on the planet, (I still do) maybe its just this generation that doesn't think we're cool
Yea Bolo with all that being said I notice when ever you talk about this subject you never talk about the price we pay for these youngsters not like the old way of doing music, I know on paper it looks like this new stuff is selling but it's not, most people know what good music sounds like that's why tv commercials are playing the old stuff, let's face it Bolo the music these youngsters are making today are not classics the music is just not good, I think most people ARE JUST TOLERATING IT just so they don't look like the old dud, just to fit in.
44 From Montana. Listen to everything. lot's of Genres. But yeah this last 10 years for hip hop I'm just confused. The triplet thing for me was a couple songs but man was I wrong, it's a been a genre and a half for a decade. The Reservations up here love hip hop and produce great artist but the sound is the "Older Sound." not trap. Grime and really hard negative Trap. That's another conversation I can't be a part of. Stay Positive. Jokes. I make beats for a hobbie which many gotta understand the money is not there by a long shot for most. Realize that and you get to have a lot more fun with it.
👽🖖🏾I'm 52 and I do that sometimes but it works especially with artist like Jay worthy and Larry June popping now so I'm good it just depends on the artist
Some good points here. Appreciate the perspective. It's good to stay grounded but those who don't evolve with the times, just tend to stay in the past. It's easy to get complacent especially when you're comfortable (speaking from experience). That's why when I make tracks for fun, I like to get a broad response. It's good to be well versed in all generations as difficult as it may seem at times. Just remember how we were as kids. Be open to change and doing things differently, you might be surprised what you find.
This should apply to all ages and even rappers too I have met too many 25-35 years talking about "yeah I don't like the new music that's not my type of vibe" and makes raps that sounds like it would have been mid even in 2004, keep telling guys that they need to try and take what works and make it their own
When you mentioned the MC Lyte song, got me to really understand something that I hate to say. Hip-Hop will always be ageism over good music. No other genre of music has put an age limit on good music. Just think about it classical music has been played the same way for centuries, but the people that are creating it now still look back to the masters for inspirations to create new. Jazz: all the greats that created it still looked at as Gods, Rock Music: Jimi Hendrix still a god and has been dead for over 50 years, new artist aren't afraid to say that they studied him. Hip-Hop: Don't know the history, and don't care to know. Then I think that, is it something that us old heads didn't instill in to everyone that has came up behind us? Did we not continue to "each one , teach one" or were we too busy trying to get paid. I do understand that you have to change with the times, but as you stated these young kids see a gray hair and quick to say no. Just think if MJ said No to Quincy......
Im 47 and pride myself on making current music but I do know people my age who are still only doing the older sounding production and will not venture from it lol
Man..im 61 , never stopped! But I don't push nothing on these kids...this is there time, there music..I just listen to where they at & try to accommodate there art
Lets not cap and act like younger producers are creating mind blowing productions Ha!! They drag and drop loops and call it production. Why do the older productions receive more syncs in film etc. Ask these younger cats would they love to work with vintage gear if they could afford it and theyll say yes. We live in a cut and paste market so its beyond age of producers and more the ease and fast creation process. Its deeper.
I don’t sample anymore. Clearance is too difficult and there are so many sounds out there why bother. I haven’t sampled in years. You can make amazing beats using vsts or external synths.
I have something to say to all producers in this comment section, why are we not dropping our own albums and beat tapes on DSPs for ourselves and other producers to listen to? Instrumentals are dope, I listen to a lot of foreign hip hop, have on clue what they're saying but if the beat was boring I wouldn't be listening. I follow a producer from the UK who Filthy Gears he releases singles every 2 weeks, and after following him for 2 years I've finally got the motivation to do the same, make instrumentals for commercial release, not other artists. If anyone has an instrumental album out drop a link I'll listen
Bolo I’m 43 and I 100% agree!!! I make trap and hip hop beats the hip hop beats I make are modern hip hop think Griselda Joey Bad Ass.. but that’s in a small circle of music.. other than that I stay relevant because I listen to relevant music!
From being a musician and working in and around music education mainly Jazz I see this all the time young people think anything twenty-five years old is ancient times. We were trying to tell the young students they need to listen to the history of the music, they will say they are listening to the real old stuff and talk about artist that are fifteen to most twenty-five years past. They will fight if you say that's no far enough back. So recording same thing. When for fun I got back into record this last year I've kept that in mind with I talk or post online. Sometimes I will point out I got a job in a recording studio back in the 1970's in the analog world, but I'm saying that just to compare how things were done then compared to now not to say you need to be doing like we did. For me it has been really interesting to of working in analog in the 70's and no computers anywhere. Then I got my first digital experience around 2007 when I got a job doing audio editing and simple CD mastering. Now 2024 getting into recording for fun and seeing how much has changed, not only tech wise but the how the roles and definitions of what each role is. So I'm having a good time as an observer of what's going on today.
Absolutely!! I produce for Jitts and Oldheads, Jamaican and some rock plus Gospel.. SIMPLICITY with the young rappers.. Some of your old style beats and modernize them.. Treat the best part like a modern beat.. Don't try to do too much or Impress with too much of your mojo.. save that for your rock and country customers
My son likes and even listens to classic Hip Hop because I tell him he needs to know his Hip Hop history, and he respects our stuff, but when I get carried away with my stories & stuff of my oldSkool days he gets upset with me!!! 😅🤭After a few minutes of shootin the shiznit he tries to find a way to get away from me!!!🤣😂 I’ve stopped doing it to him, plus I let him know that I respect his generation’s creativity shift, which is definitely way different than ours!!!🤔😆 I’m stuck…Great post Bolo!!!👌🏾🎯🔥💯
Well if the so called OG’s don’t show the youth how it’s done then how will they learn.a song needs structure,a bridge,chorus,verses. That’s what a producer is. If you just make beats for rappers then all you need is drums and bass.
You gotta damn near be on the bleeding edge these days. In my early 40's and still introducing new sonics to people half my age. Also you're correct @Bolodaproducer, the sound is hovering right around the 2016-2018 mark. Melodic rap and what was chart reliable on streaming has a lot to do with it. The cycle is always 15-20 back for sampling other hits in modern production.
Why are you trying to get kids to work with you? When has the teacher ever been concerned with getting the respect of the students? What's wrong with people your age rocking your beats? What is even worse to me is when an older artist comes out trying to obviously do what the kids are doing when they are not a kid. There is room for producers to make beats that they think will sell or for 'placement'. Artists make things w/o thinking why they are making it because it is an expression of who they are. That is why artists starve. Maybe it's just not a skill that I have but I make music for the people who like my music and have similar musical tastes as myself. I do not make music for people who don't like any of the rappers or producers that I like. I make music I want to hear. And mostly I'm the only one who listens to it, so I won't say you don't have a point, I'm just too old to be told what to do even if you did it nicely.
He kinda has a point. It depends on the younger vocalist at the end of the day. It’s a touchy subject. Ultimately, music is supposed to be universal. I’m 53 years old and I’ve pulled out old stuff and my kids like the stuff I did back then more so than the stuff I do now. It’s ok though. As long as you’re doing what you love in music without forcing someone to like it, you should be in a good place. There is no place for prejudice in music. Music is for all. Everything is not about money but enlightenment and inspiration.
Great advice. I am 49 now, if I could have "afford" and get the gear we have now.- I don't know where I would be in 2024; however I roll with the changes and blend respect to the legends- I got 5 on that 🤪 Furthermore, did you solve the Cubase 14 Pro issues? I upgraded from 13 Pro and I have to say- this is the best update/upgrade in my opinion to Cubase in years.
I'll be 51 next week and I still to this day keep up with the way sounds of music is evolving. Can't be stuck in the past but still stick to the roots.
Happy pre-Birthday!
@tiffanyanthony thank you so much!! ❤️
Dude! I'm 60 and I'm still producing Hip Hop songs since my earlier days in Miami! I love it! Nah, I'm up to date with my beats fam!😮
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Shit it done came back around to 95 if you ask me! They taking all of our RNB groves and flipping! Just like we did back then with the 70 80’s!!
The problem is Older Producers are thinking they have to make music for Teenie Boopers to make money. Chasing waves instead of just creating what comes from your heart & soul is a Bigger Issue. My advise is Just Make Good Music & The Artist thats meant for your music will find you.
Exactly, I know my production style/ skill set and if I was to try to produce like the younger producers I would get laughed out the room because that is not me. Now I'm not just making boom bap but I'm talking about that ovoxo sound and that older trap sound. That is my pocket, I don't work with 100s of artists but I have a healthy rotation of artist that come to me for beats.
I completely agree. Focusing on trends can often lead to losing sight of what makes your music unique. Creating from the heart and staying true to your style will always resonate with the right audience. The artists who connect with your music will find it, and that’s the key to longevity in the industry.
Facts, this discussion is kinda off in my opinion...
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I’m 46 .. some stuff just ain’t my bop.. I make music for spitters/ lyricists. Boom bap with up to date techniques and sounds. There is no “bring back” something that is a staple .. removing the boom bap is like taking the guitar out of rock n roll or the sax out of jazz.
Yeah true. Might as well switch to country if all you care about is making money.
I hear what you're saying (52 years old here), and i agree with 100%, but let me say one word "Griselda".They showed how an "older" sound can be made current.
Griselda is not an older sound. It just uses the same type of samples as golden era and underground hip hop..
@@LawrinMaxwellsmpc500 which is the "older" sound lol!
@@SoundSignals lol bruh just agreed
Was thinking the exact same thing.
Then you've got The Alchemist and Dj Muggs, proving that if you know Hip Hop you can continue to do sample based music without following new trends and sounds, collaborate with the younger generation, still be relevant and put out bangers!
Respect Bolo for this video.. over 40 but been at it forever. It's a passion so I can't stop. Quincy Jones had a monster hit at 50 so I stay optimistic At this point: i want a legacy, the money will come!
I don't make music for kids and I don't chase waves. I'm a producer not a beat maker.
Facts facts facts!!!
The thing about that is, These kids arent moving any units the Music industry is failing right now and it will eventually go back to musicianship and real song writing because the money aint there right now in one they are doing.
I hope you are right!
Live music will gain value as well.
Unfortunately, AI generated music will then take over...
Who gives a fuck about "these kids" tho? If you make music make the music you want to make. It's YOUR form of expression. Express yourself. For you.
100% true, let alone the fact that many kids also recognize that the music of their generation ain't as good as the previous ones, especially the 80's and 90's...
If you're working with other people; engineering or producing- you'll need to be flexible.
@elketerbentzadik Bolo's context in this video is about producing in the context of the industry, i.e. label, indy, streams, social media, charts, radio, ect... This is not about what you feel or what you love to do in your spare time; it's about what the reality is, when you're an older producer, in this game / business.
I only agree with this if you're trying to chase broad mainstream success. Most of my music sound like synthwave/old school video game music and I ain't trying to change that. The people who like it, really enjoy it. I'd rather create a niche product from my heart and soul instead of chasing waves. I don't ride waves. I cruise in my own lane.
This comment is the right mindset!
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This is the comment as someone who don’t ride waves your own path is where it’s at. Because you cater to what you enjoy and bring people closer not only that you create what’s unique. Like you said u follow trends for only the mainstream as it’s always evolving at the end u can combine the two if u chose too.
I’m 54 and started learning to make beats four years ago just for fun. I also work on animation and believe that all music connects to its roots, just with updated elements. You’re absolutely right-you can’t force old styles on new generations; they won’t connect with it. Instead, it’s essential to understand what’s new, learn why people love it, and apply those ideas. Each generation creates what moves them to their groove. As someone from the 70s generation, I’ve seen massive changes in how music is made and produced. Keep up with the great videos and music!
You can't make money if you don't read the market
I'm 62, and enjoyed some success during the late 90's/early 2000's.
Semi-retired and enjoying the amazing tools available today. Got all my clones, got all the monos/polys I need...a few digital.
But my newest purchase, the MPC Key37, is my dream machine. Got it three days ago and am like a duck to water with this thing.
A fantastic time to be an electronic musician!
That's like offering younger kids a classic car and getting mad they don't appreciate it.
I feel ya!
To them it’s more like offering a horse to ride vs a tesla
@@jasontaylor404 I once saw a kid get mad because she got a used 5 series BMW because she wanted a Tesla. True story!
@@garret765 With this logic a Dilla beat is horse and a Metro Boomin is a tesla? GTFOH so stupid.
@@Blacksonaudio I would have went with the used BMW. It wasn't that ugly Tesla cyber truck that's popular now, was it?
Sound advice. There is definitely a lane for boombap, just as there is a lane for jazz or salsa. Notice Bolo kept saying the young kids now, and if you want young kids business and to be on mainstream top 20 and compete for those spots, you have to sound current. Maybe it’s my feed, but I am hearing a lot of young kids do a lot of boombap beats though, definitely not in the top billboard 20 but the genre is still strong.
I’m 42 I agree, incorporating the old with the new is where is it at
"Uncettes?"
Brooooo u mean AUNTIES!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That maybe the reason why the wide appeal of hip hop is declining, because of the current sound that’s been placed in the forefront…and it’s been out for a while now, so shouldn’t it be considered “old” by now….i have my own style…comprised of influential genres like neo soul, hip hop, psychedelic, funk, and pop…..I’ll just say, be creative..be you… there’s an artist for everything
Bolo this is very good advise bro I just turned 41.. and honestly I’m doing both making beats for young artists and older artist… but definitely they ain’t trying to hear those old school beats.. and the best way for them is to sample old school but make sure your drums are modern and the patterns are on point
I'm 32 and I enjoy the old school way. It's true though, there's not that many of us.
you are borderline uncomfortable my bro! rawk it
I'm 48 and I enjoy cooking up beats and releasing them independently.. you would be surprised at the BMI statements to see where your spins are coming from especially in clubs.. performance royalties etc
True!
I need to learn how to do that. I’m just a hobbyist, but I have some heat. I just need to learn how to monetize and I don’t really want to have people coming to my studio because people be thirsty.
Correct… Overseas is on the 90’s vibe they love boom bap sound
This video spoke to me... Im 47 and still evolving.
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Well yes... but no... I would agree with you 100%... Until you notice the youth of today are largely less talented and less creative than when I was "coming up". That's why much of today's music is based on "beats" featuring samples of older music. It was unusual to see more than three names in the songwriter credits back in the 70's (and unusually it was two or one). Now it's not unusual to see 6, 7, even 8 "songwriters" in the credits for a song (even more)!!!
So I think you're spot-on telling us "punks" not to impose our aesthetics on the youngsters, yes, but the reason some of us might have a hard time understanding why they might not be interested in our new tracks is because most of "their" music is based on "our" music. (Actually, it's more than _based on_ our music; it usually _is_ our music!)
This wave is the dumpster wave
With all due respect Bolo, that's a subjective opinion, my dude. 56 here and I literally just ended a session with one of my up and coming artists who is in his twenties and he digs that old school sh!t.
Exactly, and older producers who follow these kinds of guidelines are the same ones who will then complain about how similar all the beats are when they themselves are part of the problem...
My clientele is just not gonna be people who don't feel that soulful boom bap sound. That's what I do. And I can add the new sample pack vibe into it, but overall, it's gonna have that boom bap in it, even if its just the bass and the drums.
Producer BandPlay (Young Dolph’s producer) is the person to credit for Big X The Plug’s bangers
Him and Cash Cobain sample some good music from the past
Don’t count out the old school Summer Walkers biggest song right now “Heart of a Woman” is very simple old school
Lol. Just make them those trash beats they want. Ahahha. Jkjkjkjkjk.
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LOL!
Your masterpiece is someone elses trash,the customer is the customer.
one thing I've noticed in the rock world is that 2000's rap rock nu metal is really hitting. Lots of trap mixed with metal also. its insane!
I strongly disagree here is why kendrick Lamar was able to beat drake in the beef by rapping like a old schooler so that’s mean there is a huge audience that is starving for that type of hip hop
2 Atlantic records drop like 50 artists
3 Gucci mane drop like his whole label
4 Kendrick Lamar is performing at the Super Bowl where is your modern artist at
The point what I’m getting at you cannot as a artists put out all that crazy music and expect to become that major artist no matter what era we are in
These artists these days are only going to make it so far you must produce music that everybody can feel and guess what ice cube just drop a song that went viral and he’s a grandpa there a multimillion dollar audience that still want that soul hip hop it is what it is
Kendrick could drop an album that sounds like the last poets and mfs would love it tho. I understand what bolo is saying too. You just gotta fit in where you fit in. Im 24 and do primarily sample based stuff, I gotta say the past 10 year with Al's evolution and all the gxfr movement has influenced me a lot, there's a big difference between the 90s sp1200 style shit and the drumless, slower, more deliberately lofi stuff that's hot now. Its just not "clubby." And not everything should be. But again, get in where you fit in.
Kendrick could drop an album that sounds like the last poets and mfs would love it tho. I understand what bolo is saying too. You just gotta fit in where you fit in. Im 24 and do primarily sample based stuff, I gotta say the past 10 year with Al's evolution and all the gxfr movement has influenced me a lot, there's a big difference between the 90s sp1200 style shit and the drumless, slower, more deliberately lofi stuff that's hot now. Its just not "clubby." And not everything should be. But again, get in where you fit in.
boooo. making a dance song while calling someone a pedo was prime gen z shit....
Ill be 50th next month i did a few collaborations this year with younger artists worked out well they weren't major artists still i learned a lot from the experience i plan on doing more collaborations in 2025 young or old artists. 🙏🏾
So you telling me they don’t wanna hear my Public Enemy Welcome to the Terrordome type beat😢😂
I would those beats are coming back those type of emcees are coming back .
Children may not but it did make it into a movie which is another way that people can make money on music that sounds 'dated' as he put it. Every time a movie or TV show, or even video game, has to come up with background music for something that is supposed to be happening from 1980's-2010's then they are going to look for music that sounds like that era to try to bring people into the feeling of that time and that is an opportunity for people who make music that is still reminiscent of those eras. Especially if they just want that sound w/o paying to license an actual hit from then.
Expand your reach!! Those pop and European artists eat that shit up all day. Urban artist are one dimensional. Most of the urban music sound exactly the same song after song same sounds same patterns FIND AND DEFINE your audience. Stop trying to be the creepy old guy in the club. Go find that underground hip hop scene that want what you got, all those 90s R&B artist are still outside find them and breath life into their music. Chasing money will have you out here colorful as hell wearing speedos.
This is correct. Unfortunately, I do not enjoy making new style music. Too much splice and midi file editing for me, but I do not sell beats to people.
I totally agree if you're trying to work with younger artists yes By all means stay up to date...... but I've also heard a lot of younger people who are now discovering nineties and early 2000s Hip Hop and they are fascinated with the music because it sounds so different than what they know and the song structure is much better...... they always say that the Beats were much more simpler but effective
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@BoloDaProducer I keep watching DJ reaction channels it is like they discovered gold give me a... and they all say the same thing...... it's something so real about it...... the music that they listen to now they're going to outgrow as adults give me a. But that old school s*** a lot of about real life and that's what they want to hear alarm say they can't even go back to listening to the current unless they're in a club
What you said at 3:44 is really important and I think deserves its own video. If you just blindly play tracks from the last ten years it’s real hard to tell what year they are from. It’s not hard to stick to this lane but it is like of boring. Age shouldnt matter as long as you are flexible
Make what you love and find somebody else who loves it too. If not just keep it and jam it for your own enjoyment. Matter of fact all my music is for my own enjoyment. If somebody hears it and likes it, cool. If they don’t, then as Bolo used to say: I really don’t care.
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Really good advice. I started my first studio in 1980 and all that classic hardware I financed back then is still going strong as VST's. I'm 67 now and my number one thing whether it's DJ or recording is don't get stuck in the past. I regularly listen to top 20 lists from around the world. All my guys my age are stuck like you said.
This was a slept-on topic that needed to be addressed or talked about. I'm 52, and I've been producing for some time now, like the Cool Edit Pro days. LOL, I totally get it. You have to be a servant to the buyer. I'm excited to enter your beat submission the next time it's open. 😁 again another great video.
I'm over 40 and I'm all for new sounds. I'm not one of those old guys that feel like the old music is always the best. I'll tell a person in a heartbeat that some of the older music sounds dated compared to some of the new music.
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I’m over 40 but Im all about finding the next wave 🌊 I don’t wanna hear that old ish either 😂
I think some artist’s (not all) should stay true to themselves and their sound. Not that they can’t evolve, but if they the type of artist that like that sound that’s mostly associated with 80’s, 70’s then they should not do anything different because it messes up the brand. Good example is Ghostface or MFDoom, Swingout Sister
This is true. Also terminologies evolve as well. What we called Dnb back in the day is now being called Jungle by the youth. And as a jungle sweaty since the 90s it throws me sometimes. Haha. But, I’m just glad they’re obsessed with something, this is their era.
Unc-ett??? Bruh. What's wrong with auntie? C'mon man😂
literally what i was going to comment lol
Yes sir. I'm 55 and I just love music and I had no idea that producing was so challenging. I appreciate this Bolo. Thank you!!!
Another great topic…. I’ll admit, I’m kinda struggling with this… I’m about to turn 54 AND I didn’t start making beat until I was 45, I think…I usually run my beats by my kids… Sons are 35 & 31, and my daughter is 27…. A few years ago I let my daughter hear one of my beats and her response was “I like it, but it sounds OLD” 😳😂🤣🤔… Kibda crushed me a bit but one of my main objectives now is for my beats to NOT sound OLD…I also do this in my spare time so I just try to have fun and make what I like… Ima get a beat to you for review one day👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 How bout dem Lions!?😂
"also do this in my spare time so I just try to have fun and make what I like." This is a big heads up young ones. The math says you will have a very very small chance of making money so keep that in mind. it won't get better in the next few. Having fun with it is everything after that is realized.
I been in music production since I was 16 (1992) I’m 49 and I have had my share of music industry success. You are absolutely right about forcing old methods on a younger artist. I work with a younger producer and because of that, I learned FL studios and other methods that today’s younger producer are doing. Some of it is still tried and true others are like ahhhh I see. Even how they are marketing themselves. I have kids so I listen to what they’re listening to in the mix of the stuff I like. Also to get a sense of where your sound should be, pull up Apple music and listen to the curated playlist. You will definitely know where the sound of music is by the 10th song.
Getting older with music production brings a level of maturity. The power to say I’m not producing music that promotes Sex, Money and Drugs. Or you are just like the YnGz and be like fuxx that…. I’m trying to get to the bag. At 40+ you shouldn’t be trying to get to the bag. You should already have that part of your life stable. Enjoy producing whatever music you like. Know when you involve people you will need to adjust, and let go of them damn Impeach The President drums. 😂 ✌🏾
You can use an old school sample, just add that trap hi hat to it. That is the one sound that makes the difference.
Im glad I only make beats as a hobby. Zounds like real pressure to do as a living.
I just turned 48 and the old heads that refuse to move on from the golden era and boom bap is such a peeve. Don't get me wrong, I love the old school hip hop, but I have a huge appreciation for the modern sound. Anyone who complains about "real hip hop" or telling me that the modern sound "isn't hip hop" just gets an eye roll from me.
btw, early 2000s stuff is 20 years ago :-\
Exactly, man, I'm like, so it's all bad? Cmon, man, my peeps think it's all pose to be benny butcher type songs or it's trash which is false
Tons of people rapping on Boom Bap tracks right now. Benny the butcher, Nino Man, and everyone on the East coast
@@SoloEmpireOfficial you can find anything that still being made. Folks are still making fire disco and funk tracks today.
My point isn’t that boombap doesn’t exist but more the old heads that refuse to give anything else a chance. There’s quality everywhere if you look for it just like there’s an audience for anything if you can find it.
Bitching that the new kids don’t like boom bap does nothing for anyone. Finding the people who appreciate it and locking in on that scene is where it’s at.
I don't make music for kids I make music for people that like my music! This is straight up bad advice that I highly disagree with! Even the Bible warns of thinking in this way!
How Sway???
Yea this definitely hit you personally oldhead. This video is for PROFESSIONAL or ASPIRING PROFESSIONALS not hobbyist. If you make music for yourself and don’t want to make money from it then there is no problem with your thought process.
Huh?
I’m so glad you gave this message. As a 54 year old producer I run my tracks by my boys, 10-16. If they don’t rock with it, that ain’t it. I still have my music for me and a fan base. Have to be real with yourself. New Jack Swing might have a resurgence. 😂😂😂
If you wanna make money, you gotta change with the times.
Fellow 44 year old here. When I heard that song that recently interpolated Blue by Eiffel 65 I couldn't believe they were referencing such a new song; until I realized it was 25 years old. My soul wept a bit.
Do whatever TF you want to do! There’s literally a market for EVERYONE.
I'm 54 and i hear you loud n clear. Anyway, Hip Hop was always about staying fresh and on the leading edge, so us oldies should know that anyway! I also recognise that allot of this new stuff sounds weak too in comparison to those old hard beats!
I totally agree with you Bolo,I'm turning 42 in January and I must say what's gotten me this far is staying updated with the time and sound,I mostly work with cats in their early 20s sometimes even teens so I totally get where you coming from,in fact I be telling these kids to stay fresh....Dope Vide Once Again...I think you should do more basic advice videos like these.Bless Up🙏🏾💯
A Producer makes music for all ages and genres..#TIMELESS...a beat maker makes a rap beat for rappers not music entertainers.
This eludes to an issue with urban music. I think we shouldn't be trying to make music for kids. The kids already got that! We isolate our own age group. I'm 45. I been making music since I was in high school in the 90's. And personally, I don't listen to the kids music or even any modern hip hop today. Cause it's not made for my age group. I feel weird listening to the stuff I used to listen when I was young. I make music for my age group, cause so few do. These kids got their stuff on lock. My teen kids don't like any of my stuff, and that's fine. I don't make it for them.
Heres the thing, we know and understand several eras of music. All the great ones! This is a huge advantage!
Got to evolve with the times, Its jus like technology. Even at a old age have to stay up to date.
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Bolo Da Producer ? some of these youngsters never heard of a lot of oldies songs. like for example: you can play "roger and zapp more bounce to the ounce" and they would be like "WHO SING THAT ?"
I'm 50 and still making beats and recording in my studio and I had to step up. So now I make trap trill hip hop and r&b and southern blues now.
I agree with Bolo when it comes to hip hop. I'm a house music producer, and I think u can get away with a little bit more. Also, it depends on the artist. I noticed hip hop producers let the artist tell them how to produce. You're the creator and should make that understood.
Yeah you’re good 👍🏾
You have choices to work with who you can feel that rhythm. I'm 54 and I have try to work with younger people that wanted certain music. I mosty like good and real communication with people, nobody that head is Blown up, not waisting producers time. That comes with any age. Good Video for me too, I can get stuck
The polo collard shirt’s hit different. lol I love them shirt’s smh. F. Them kids 😂😂
Anybody who needs a hit record, get at me.
As the og's we should be pushing the evolution of the sound of hip hop and RnB. Especially if we have been doing this for years. Just my opinion.
Having to adapt is tough, I'm not gonna lie, but at the same time, I can't lie to myself. I'm not into what this generation is into, but I am EXTREMELY thankful that there are still groups out there, such as Griselda, that are keeping that branch of Hip Hop alive, but modernized.
Thanks from a 44 year old producer lol . This will help my future bolo. But u ain’t lying some of my 2015 beats still sound good today . Keep bringing the knowledge my bro ❤️💯💪🏽👑🎶🎶🎶
im 42 now, when I was 18 dj premier was 36, I thought he was the coolest man on the planet, (I still do) maybe its just this generation that doesn't think we're cool
And we shouldn’t care. We’ll do us and they can do them.
@ I don’t care if they don’t acknowledge our era even though its a shame, but I do care if they disrespect our era
Yea Bolo with all that being said I notice when ever you talk about this subject you never talk about the price we pay for these youngsters not like the old way of doing music, I know on paper it looks like this new stuff is selling but it's not, most people know what good music sounds like that's why tv commercials are playing the old stuff, let's face it Bolo the music these youngsters are making today are not classics the music is just not good, I think most people ARE JUST TOLERATING IT just so they don't look like the old dud, just to fit in.
Great perspective. Thanks for sharing. My 15 year old son tells me this all the time.
I’m a 42yr old producer…and this videos was hilarious‼️ Bolo you’re funny as heck‼️😂
I agree I keep my production like water, always adapting and never forcing a sound on the younger generation.
44 From Montana. Listen to everything. lot's of Genres. But yeah this last 10 years for hip hop I'm just confused. The triplet thing for me was a couple songs but man was I wrong, it's a been a genre and a half for a decade. The Reservations up here love hip hop and produce great artist but the sound is the "Older Sound." not trap. Grime and really hard negative Trap. That's another conversation I can't be a part of. Stay Positive. Jokes. I make beats for a hobbie which many gotta understand the money is not there by a long shot for most. Realize that and you get to have a lot more fun with it.
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👽🖖🏾I'm 52 and I do that sometimes but it works especially with artist like Jay worthy and Larry June popping now so I'm good it just depends on the artist
I'm 46 It's a new age all we can do is respect it. the younger generation is in the "I got to prove it to myself and others" phase.
Some good points here. Appreciate the perspective. It's good to stay grounded but those who don't evolve with the times, just tend to stay in the past. It's easy to get complacent especially when you're comfortable (speaking from experience). That's why when I make tracks for fun, I like to get a broad response. It's good to be well versed in all generations as difficult as it may seem at times. Just remember how we were as kids. Be open to change and doing things differently, you might be surprised what you find.
Unkette’s 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great advice bolo. Nothing wrong with the old, but you do gotta stay up to date as well.
I've never made music for money. I've been slappin my own sh!t for year and I don't care what anybody says. 😂
This should apply to all ages and even rappers too I have met too many 25-35 years talking about "yeah I don't like the new music that's not my type of vibe" and makes raps that sounds like it would have been mid even in 2004, keep telling guys that they need to try and take what works and make it their own
If Its good its good, do what you feel and let the world do what they do
When you mentioned the MC Lyte song, got me to really understand something that I hate to say. Hip-Hop will always be ageism over good music. No other genre of music has put an age limit on good music. Just think about it classical music has been played the same way for centuries, but the people that are creating it now still look back to the masters for inspirations to create new. Jazz: all the greats that created it still looked at as Gods, Rock Music: Jimi Hendrix still a god and has been dead for over 50 years, new artist aren't afraid to say that they studied him. Hip-Hop: Don't know the history, and don't care to know. Then I think that, is it something that us old heads didn't instill in to everyone that has came up behind us? Did we not continue to "each one , teach one" or were we too busy trying to get paid. I do understand that you have to change with the times, but as you stated these young kids see a gray hair and quick to say no. Just think if MJ said No to Quincy......
Im 47 and pride myself on making current music but I do know people my age who are still only doing the older sounding production and will not venture from it lol
Man..im 61 , never stopped! But I don't push nothing on these kids...this is there time, there music..I just listen to where they at & try to accommodate there art
Lets not cap and act like younger producers are creating mind blowing productions Ha!! They drag and drop loops and call it production. Why do the older productions receive more syncs in film etc. Ask these younger cats would they love to work with vintage gear if they could afford it and theyll say yes. We live in a cut and paste market so its beyond age of producers and more the ease and fast creation process. Its deeper.
I don’t sample anymore. Clearance is too difficult and there are so many sounds out there why bother. I haven’t sampled in years. You can make amazing beats using vsts or external synths.
I have something to say to all producers in this comment section, why are we not dropping our own albums and beat tapes on DSPs for ourselves and other producers to listen to?
Instrumentals are dope, I listen to a lot of foreign hip hop, have on clue what they're saying but if the beat was boring I wouldn't be listening.
I follow a producer from the UK who Filthy Gears he releases singles every 2 weeks, and after following him for 2 years I've finally got the motivation to do the same, make instrumentals for commercial release, not other artists.
If anyone has an instrumental album out drop a link I'll listen
Bolo I’m 43 and I 100% agree!!! I make trap and hip hop beats the hip hop beats I make are modern hip hop think Griselda Joey Bad Ass.. but that’s in a small circle of music.. other than that I stay relevant because I listen to relevant music!
From being a musician and working in and around music education mainly Jazz I see this all the time young people think anything twenty-five years old is ancient times. We were trying to tell the young students they need to listen to the history of the music, they will say they are listening to the real old stuff and talk about artist that are fifteen to most twenty-five years past. They will fight if you say that's no far enough back. So recording same thing. When for fun I got back into record this last year I've kept that in mind with I talk or post online. Sometimes I will point out I got a job in a recording studio back in the 1970's in the analog world, but I'm saying that just to compare how things were done then compared to now not to say you need to be doing like we did. For me it has been really interesting to of working in analog in the 70's and no computers anywhere. Then I got my first digital experience around 2007 when I got a job doing audio editing and simple CD mastering. Now 2024 getting into recording for fun and seeing how much has changed, not only tech wise but the how the roles and definitions of what each role is. So I'm having a good time as an observer of what's going on today.
Absolutely!! I produce for Jitts and Oldheads, Jamaican and some rock plus Gospel.. SIMPLICITY with the young rappers.. Some of your old style beats and modernize them.. Treat the best part like a modern beat.. Don't try to do too much or Impress with too much of your mojo.. save that for your rock and country customers
My son likes and even listens to classic Hip Hop because I tell him he needs to know his Hip Hop history, and he respects our stuff, but when I get carried away with my stories & stuff of my oldSkool days he gets upset with me!!! 😅🤭After a few minutes of shootin the shiznit he tries to find a way to get away from me!!!🤣😂 I’ve stopped doing it to him, plus I let him know that I respect his generation’s creativity shift, which is definitely way different than ours!!!🤔😆 I’m stuck…Great post Bolo!!!👌🏾🎯🔥💯
Unless you are in it for the bag, there are very few positives working with younger artists. Very few.
I definitely feel ya on that
Salute agreed
Nah we gotta work with new n old more. Come up with something new teach each other
Well if the so called OG’s don’t show the youth how it’s done then how will they learn.a song needs structure,a bridge,chorus,verses. That’s what a producer is. If you just make beats for rappers then all you need is drums and bass.
I'm trying to avoid every wave....but then, I don't produce for other people.
You gotta damn near be on the bleeding edge these days. In my early 40's and still introducing new sonics to people half my age. Also you're correct @Bolodaproducer, the sound is hovering right around the 2016-2018 mark. Melodic rap and what was chart reliable on streaming has a lot to do with it. The cycle is always 15-20 back for sampling other hits in modern production.
Why are you trying to get kids to work with you? When has the teacher ever been concerned with getting the respect of the students? What's wrong with people your age rocking your beats? What is even worse to me is when an older artist comes out trying to obviously do what the kids are doing when they are not a kid. There is room for producers to make beats that they think will sell or for 'placement'. Artists make things w/o thinking why they are making it because it is an expression of who they are. That is why artists starve. Maybe it's just not a skill that I have but I make music for the people who like my music and have similar musical tastes as myself. I do not make music for people who don't like any of the rappers or producers that I like. I make music I want to hear. And mostly I'm the only one who listens to it, so I won't say you don't have a point, I'm just too old to be told what to do even if you did it nicely.
He kinda has a point. It depends on the younger vocalist at the end of the day. It’s a touchy subject. Ultimately, music is supposed to be universal. I’m 53 years old and I’ve pulled out old stuff and my kids like the stuff I did back then more so than the stuff I do now. It’s ok though. As long as you’re doing what you love in music without forcing someone to like it, you should be in a good place. There is no place for prejudice in music. Music is for all. Everything is not about money but enlightenment and inspiration.
Great advice. I am 49 now, if I could have "afford" and get the gear we have now.- I don't know where I would be in 2024; however I roll with the changes and blend respect to the legends- I got 5 on that 🤪 Furthermore, did you solve the Cubase 14 Pro issues? I upgraded from 13 Pro and I have to say- this is the best update/upgrade in my opinion to Cubase in years.