Fleetwood Mac - Rumours: Albums That Changed Music
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Lindsey Buckingham is one of the few living geniuses of pop music. As much credit as he gets, I still don’t think it’s enough when you consider what he contributed changed how we hear music today. Great episode.
Thanks ever so much
I agree.
I think he sometimes comes across as being a bit aloof which is caused by social awkwardness, maybe because of too much time spent alone in the studio, because he should be far more popular and appreciated.
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669. lol! What! Aloof isn't a word that describes Lindsey Buckingham. He was a great gift to FM. He's been a team player. Leave it to Stevie (narcissistic egomaniac) and of course a spoiled brat, having the nerve to tell the band to choose between her or Lindsey. Shame on her.
@@DianaKing-po2qj Oh I totally agree about Stevie, the bitter old goat is annoying as hell and lives a weird existence surrounded by her assistants. I was actually defending Lindsey! I think he can come across as being a bit aloof but he isn't, it's just he can be awkward socially, you notice it in publicity photos when he doesn't smile very often or in some interviews. Stevie sleeping around especially with Mick can't have helped him, am sure that affected how he can sometimes come across.
Hearing Christine sing songbird live was one of the highlights of my life. I think it was Wembley Arena which is a pretty big venue but you could have heard a pin drip. Special lady, special song. RIP.
Thanks ever so much for sharing that Steve! Beautifully said!
I think the fact that the album still feels relevant and continuities to impact a new generation of listeners, like my two sons, is a testament to its absolute brilliance. Rumors continues to give me the ‘feelies’!
Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, the cynical opinion would be to say that Fleetwood Mac shrewdly chose to write about topics that mostly anyone can relate to,
but of course, you won't get anywhere without great songs. And they had them!
I think this might be the best-sounding album of all time. I'm just talking pure production value. I use it as a reference all the time, especially the song "The Chain."
I just find this whole story remarkable. How many bands have three main songwriters and three main singers? Not many throughout history. And how many of those bands can say their three main songwriters were all capable of writing major hits? And how many of those bands had multiple members dating each other, had those members break up, still stayed together as a band, and somehow went on to produce their best album and one of the most commercially successful albums of all time? So many bands break up over far less than this.
Well The Beatles had three main singer-songwriters, but I'm pretty sure that none of them were dating.
@@Dave_Sisson Hey, I didn't say no other bands had three main singer-songwriters. And that's part of what makes The Beatles special as well.
And Paul and John may not have been dating but they were definitely in love with each other.
@@Dave_Sisson it does seem that a minima of two amazing songwriters is what sets the greatest bands apart! At least an amazing pair of collaborators! Queen of course had all 4 guys write songs, all of which write singles, with John Deacon witting a handful of some of the biggest songs of all time!
Yes, this is one a kind album, it is one of my Desert Island records! I have to say Warren has a amazing way of doing technical diagnosis while still making the story so interesting and engaging- he is a great interviewer! I had seen a Fleetwood Mac Rumors documentary years ago and learning about the turmoil going on their relationship makes the music so much more important and relevant especially in times like today. Every single track is golden- I wept when I heard Christine had passed this year, Song bird hits me so hard every time I hear it now. I am so lucky to have grown up in that era hearing this music on the radio. Amazing video, thank you Warren
Queen had each member of the band pen a number 1. But your point is well taken.
There are many reasons why this is considered one of the greatest records of all time. The Songwriting, the performances etc. However the actual recording and mixing/mastering of this album is sublime. Crisp, clear, dynamic and a joy to listen to. TIMELESS!
It’s kind of weird. As an old man today, I can trace my taste/love of music directly back to this album. I was 13 in 1977. Rumors ruled the airwaves.
Even now..the brilliance is clear to me. What a ride it’s been. What a great time it was! 😊
Warren, I can't fully express nor articulate the significance of this album and how it shaped my adolescent musical schema. I played it concurrently with Pink Floyd's 'Wish You Were Here' during the summer of 77 and introduced it to some similarly aged family friends during that time. To this day it calls to mind a time in my life where my youthful and hormonally addled mind was immersed in a torrent of emotion never before experienced by such sonic and lyrical brilliance. I was 10+ years late to the Beatles and 60s music experience but man, the mid~late 70s were a watershed era of music across many genres. Thanks again mate for sharing this. Peace..
Wild hair Warren! When we made a 14 day road trip through the UK, we decided to listen only to the most iconic albums from the Rolling Stone list.....Rumours was the only one we put on repeat! Its on constant rotation in my house and studio ever since! Somehow it still sounds fresh!
Fleetwood Mac demonstrated why musicians need to ‘support’ a lyrical song. Listeners want an emotional connection.
Very well said
I first heard this Rumours album on the radio in 1977. I was a junior high school teen. It was the song ‘you make loving fun’ and then rock station played ‘dreams’. I was like wow! I already liked the 1975 Mac album and this one seemed another hit. I would raise the volume on the radio every time those songs were played. My father who likes 40s and 50s music also started liking Fleetwood Mac. We will miss you Christine Mcvie very much. My father also since passed away. Thank you for the memories of music.
Perfect Album, sublime coming together of three great songwriters at their artistic peak, musically brilliant and expertly produced
Thanks for sharing!
I really love this album. The sheer number of hits on this album is remarkable. Definitely their best effort!
Agreed! Masterpiece
Tango In The Night is right up there with it.
The Chain. Thank you BBC for using this as the Formula 1 theme tune. It is irreplacable! Play that and I think of Sunday afternoons listening to Murray Walker and James Hunt. Happy, happy days, with a Fleetwood Mac soundtrack. I and many others will never forget.
High school, I bought this album. I loved it. The older I get, the more I love and appreciate it. I never heard about the tensions or paid enough attention to the lyrics to understand the sacrifices and struggles the band members made to create this amazing art. I guess it was like when the Sting, Andy and Stuart of the Police used the hate, tension and oneupmanship to drive the creative forces to another level. I'm sorry you guys had to endure, but I'm grateful for the outcome.
This is another one of those albums EVERY musician has at home. Every time you listen to it you discover another clever thing and it never gets old.
Agreed 100%! Thanks for sharing!
This is the best doc I've ever seen on this LP. Thanks Warren!
Wow!! Glad you enjoyed it!
Just an unbelievably good album. The production is sterling. It’s one the greatest albums to come out during my high school days. For some reason, it took me a bit to warm up to it, but it is just genius….
Thanks ever so much Tom!
I LOVE THAT RECORD ....also what stevies accountant said is pretty great story ...thanks guys
Thanks ever so much!!
This is an outstanding piece of work about an important album. Good job, Warren and crew!
Thanks ever so much Rylie!
One of the all time great albums.
Well said!
I remember coming back with the album from the record store. I wasn't really impressed with "Second Hand News" (don't hate me, I was 15), but starting with Mick's "intro", Dreams had me hooked. It is a really incredible album.
Insane, I was just talking to. My wife today about the personal dynamics of this wonderful group of people, how they met, and then this record being produced on the way to the city today. Then right now, behold your video was released an hour after we were talking. Great work once again!
Amazing! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Thanks Warren for another informative video. Bought this album on vinyl in 1977 (I was 17 at the time) and still have it. I can't count how many times I must have listened to both it and its predecessor. Both brilliant. It was great learning a bunch of things that I didn't already know. And you are a great interviewer. Letting your subject talk without interruption is rare these days. Keep up the great work! You always bring such enthusiasm and positive vibes to your presentations.
Wow what can be said that hasn't already about this once in a lifetime LP. They truly captured something that will never be repeated. 100 or 1,000 years from now people will still love this record. Thanks PLAP, and btw, nice Mutton Chops Warren. Sherlock Holmes would be proud.
To (genuine) artists, all of life is material.
This is a great addendum to the Classic Albums documentary.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
Song Bird is an incredible piece of music. The way Christine sang it.
When I was a kid growing up in the San Fernando valley in the 70s I used to work for my Dad on weekends at his equipment facility in Van Nuys. It turns out that some EPIC recordings were being made literally a stonesthrow from his office at Sound City. Google maps shows that I was toiling away at a menial high school job about 200 yards from where some of the most amazing music of my childhood was being layed down. (including Fleetwood Mac)
Easily my favorite album of all time. And love the Electrophonic guitar in the background! 🙂
Hearing Ken Caillat talking about the production of Rumours really wakes me up to how incredible the production of albums like this and others of the time is. Everything was done, for lack of a better term, “by hand”, you had to have your ear to the ground and be on your toes all at once. There is never a case of judging music by the technology of the time it was recorded.
Totally agree that this album is beyond perfect. To channel such angst into music is one thing, but to do it with all the personal conflict ongoing and being dealt with is insane. Diamonds.
Well said! Thanks for sharing!
I remember when this LP came out. My dad had it, all of his friends had it, all of their friends had it, etc. I've listened to it a bunch of times front-to-back over the years, and I have always ONLY heard a competent late-'70s pop rock record, a solid B+.
B PLUS? This record is A plus if there ever was one.
Finally a Fleetwood Mac video! Great to see this feature on the channel!
More to come! Thanks
This might have been the record I listened to more than any other record I’ve ever had and/or heard. I think I first got it on a cassette tape. Yeah, that’s right, because I remember it felt really weird when I bought the album and side a and b were switched around (off course they weren’t, but I didn’t know that!). And for a long time, whenever I played the album I started with side b. Seemed more natural to me.
I bought the album twice. I think I bought the cd twice as well. And when I finally learned how to use a computer and what you could do with it, I downloaded the whole album as an mp3 file as well.
It doesn’t matter how many times I listen to it, it still sounds fresh, it still sounds exciting and it never bored me for even a second.
Brillant album!!! ❤️
Songwriters, musicians and producers at the very top of their game. Great episode Warren. Thank you. Keep 'em coming.
Loved Rumours. I remember studying for my final exams of high school with Rumours playing on an LP player that I repeated over and over.
Enjoyed the story, especially the conversation with Caillat. Got Rumors queued up for my nightly dog walk. Afterwards, I'll watch your interview with him. Thanks to all at PLaP.
Thanks ever so much Craig!
I don't know how many times I listend to this album when I bought it. So much that I could not listen to it for a few years. Incredible songs. You can play it from start to finish on repeat ;-) ...... Masterpiece !!! It's one of those albums that makes you want to be a musician.
Another great chapter in your outstanding documentary series. Always worth the time!
May you rest in peace Christine McVie..
Yes, Rest In Peace Christine McVie
Rumours is a cornerstone album for me. It's one of THE first albums I remember from my childhood and at 48 I still play it regularly. Songbird specifically I play weekly. I've read and heard all the album breakdowns over the years and this was really great to hear some genuine love for the material. As opposed to just someone rehashing stories, comments and rumours (see what I did there!) just for click bait and channel views. That producer insight coupled to the genuine fan made this and I really appreciate the effort put into something so genuinely special to me.
Thanks Warren, been waiting for this one. Total classic.
Glad you enjoyed it
Another sensational, brilliant video essay. So so fantastic!
Thanks ever so much. I really appreciate it
Am on such a Fleetwood Mac dive at the moment. Micks drum sounds and fills are awesome. So sad to lose Christine. Such magical timeless music. Still sounds fresh.
Thank you for this video
Thanks ever so much
This is may be the best album to listen to on vinyl
You have to recall how crowded the airwaves were when this was released.
A year after Frampton , Hotel CA, TITA, Thin Lizzy, Boston, ...
The list was huge for my senior year of HS.
Anf The Mac topped them all.
The Chain!?
My lord.
This is best yet Warren
You asked for suggestions, I think the journey of David Silvian would be a fantastic video, from early Bowiesque post punk glam, through New Romanticism and on to his solo work and collaborations with Fripp and Sakamoto and beyond. David Silvian, there is an artist who truly went his own way and influenced so many.
Fantastic! Thank you for doing this one, Warren! Such a great record.
Thanks ever so much for sharing Aaron!
Another album that shaped my musical tastes, which I left off my list. Thank you for highlighting this amazing album and group lineup.
And the middle of "The Chain" was used by the BBC as an opener for their F1 coverage
I remember it very well!
Sonically perfect and every song is sequenced perfectly.. I don't need to say much more ❤
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
What got across to the buying Public? The SOUND, and even more, the emotional truth. In reference to the first - a blow by blow engineering account would never be dull. And for the second - gain comes from pain, and all five were growing as people and as performers.
Absolutely! A great album in every way
Spirit-12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus, 1970, is a blast from the past! Very Experimental and interesting recording!
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
I think the quote near the end is prescient. Masterpiece albums just don’t happen like this anymore because of how formulaic the production process has become. The next great album will likely be made in a bedroom, or a bathroom, or a garage; somewhere where creatives can still afford to experiment.
This is my favorite record of all time, it's the one I always reach for over others.
A great doco on a great album - fascinating.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
Just finished reading Ken Caillat's book about the production of Rumours. It is well worth the read for anyone interested in the subject.
Excellent Warren. Btw, Buddy Holly played through a Lesley speaker on a track Norman Petty had him record during his session work on other artists tracks in Petty's studio in Clovis. That was in 1958. Song was "Look To The Future" by Gary Tollett (Dale).
My first concert with Bob Welch and Steve Miller Little river band.
That’s wonderful
One of the few albums that deserves all of the accolades it has received. - Other people's pain is our pleasure! 😂
Haha thanks!
An album to hold up as an example of excellence in all aspects.
I still have my 1977 copy.
Thanks ever so much for sharing! Yes, wonderful album
🎵"Don't, stop, making these awesome segments!"🎵 Seriously, great vid. I could watch these pieces forever, my friend. Cheers!
I've been waiting a long time for you to.make this video, I wasn't disappointed!
Listening to a first year vinyl pressing of this album blows away any digital, streaming or more recent vinyl pressing.
Obviously the music comes through no matter what format but if you love the album and want to be blown away either get an early copy or find a friend who has one.
Enjoy.
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Rumours - the only album about divorce that doesn’t just dwell on the “f you” side of splitting up.
My favorite snare is the dreams intro 😊
Beautiful
I'd love to see an episode on big star's #1 record!
Luckily I grew up in a musical family and I remember when this record came out. I was only 9 years old but even then I knew it was something special.
Lindsey Buckingham was the sole producer of this album according to Richard Dashut, he said Ken C and him engineered the album but it was Lindsey who did all the arrangements and production. What a shame he didn't fight to get that recognition, he is underrated as it is.
great video, thanks Warren! I was a massive Peter Green fan and it took me a while to accept this line-up with its very different style but Rumours was so undeniably strong it won me over. Fantastic songs, singing and production. And that fantastic rhythm section . . . I've loved Fleetwood & McVie's playing since they were in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, before Peter Green started the band, and their rock-sold foundation has held the band together throughout their long career. How about a video on Born to Run?
As always, great overview of a great record. You asked for suggestions: Who's Next by The Who... that album is an amazing accomplishment.
Yes! Masterpiece
Sometime in 2023 a deluxe version of ‘Who’s Next’ remixed by Steven Wilson is supposed to be released. Various surround versions, should be epic.
You're looking more like Alvin Stardust, Mate. Coal black hair and sideburns, nice.
Haha just growing my hair! And I’m just lowly producer and engineer not a professional RUclipsr! Ha
EXCELLENT BRIEF DOC! even sans music the absence of fluff & backhistory ALREADY known is very welcome! SUBSCRIBED and 👍!
Love the hairstyle Warren. You're taking 1976 method acting to a new level ❤
I really enjoyed that and very eloquently put. Thank you very much
You're very welcome
Great video! Please more album analytical reviews.
What an absolutely wonderful video.
Love these! Thanks, Warren.
What about Mezzoforte. In my opinion one of the most innovative fusion bands in late 70ths. I had the privilege to meet them live in Belgium in 2014. Wow what a great musical experience with a small audience. I remember the bass player starting with the words: "Good evening Belgium, this is the first time we play here and its probebly the last time." There were only 150 people in the aula of 500 places. The publicity of the concert was not as it should have been. Stil al great concert. Cheers Jan
Great stuff as always Warren! Such an epic story for anyone who loves music and has been through a breakup themselves (so pretty much all of us I suppose...) Kudos on the interview with Ken C. I'm glad to hear he bought the studio (If I understood correctly.)
I only just discovered this album recently, despite knowing about its existence my whole life. The Chain is so incredibly well written and produced that you cannot help be moved and inspired by it.
The background story with all of the personal drama going on makes it that much more captivating, though this is often the case with the best songs in rock music. Nobody ever made powerful music whilst they were just coasting through life with no worries.
What’s most interesting though, is that Rick Turner custom guitar that Lindsey Buckingham played on that album and the tour. Weird and ugly looking thing, but it sounded amazing and he still to this day prefers it over any other guitar.
Hello Warren,good evening,i wish you make a interview with a singer/musician and songwriter Rachel Fannan,ex- Sleepy Sun,Black mountain and Anywhere,cheers and have a nice sunday,good night for you,greetings from São Paulo,Brazil!!!!!!!
Warren, your hair looks awesome. Many cheers, sir.
Hahaha thanks ever so much
So much I could say here, but I won't. It's been a very wild ride. Life really is, stranger than fiction. :) ...and it keeps on being that way. ❤
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Here's a tricky suggestion: At the Drive-In's Relationship of Command. Produced by Ross Robinson. So much to say about that album, arguably ATDI at their best, such a massive sounding album that made everyone stop and listen. No band could match that raw power.
A guitar sounds phenomenal through a Leslie!
Edit: If you haven't already, have you considered interviewing Alan Parsons?
Yes! I’ve done it many times! Wonderful effect!
Read Ken's book making rumors, is brilliant. I was blown away by the lengths they went to to get the perfect take.
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
looking shaggy, Woz. Dare you to grow the sideys out to Trevor Bolder length ;)
Great video. As a lifelong-time Fleetwood Mac fan, I think "Rumours" is one of the greatest albums they ever made. However I don't think it is especially ground-breaking in terms of musical and sonic excellence. For anyone who knows the history of the band from their very first records, and their outstanding creativity in albums like "Kiln House" and "Then Play On" and many more---- the production qualities have always been first-rate. Since Day One, the foundation of Fleetwood Mac has always been the fantastic rhythm section of Mick and John. Those two guys are so locked in to each other it's amazing, and they create the bedrock of every song the band has ever recorded. (In my humble opinion)
Great record and tutorial!
First time i heard this record was at my school when it came out. One of my teachers brought it in to play on our fold out record player.....i went to a real hippy school, so playing records was very normal. I can't remember if I liked it or not?, but they played it all the time.
Years later in my late teens i recognized they were great songwriters, and that it was a great record.
Years ago i did cartage for Mick. He was a pretty nice guy..........it's hands down one of the greatest records of the last 50yrs.
IMO, it's rare to find an album where you actually like all the tracks. The Beatles are the only band I like where I enjoy every track (or the majority) on all their albums. Rumors is one of those albums. Christine McVie doesn't get enough love for her writing and singing. To me, she was the best. Hard to see Fleetwood Mac having as much success without her contributions. Plus, I think she was absolutely beautiful. Excellent video.
Warren: you asked us viewers what classic album that you should look at and do analysis of. There is one album by one band you should examine and it’s “Steve McQueen” by Prefab Sprout which is arguably the Greatest Pop Album of the Eighties.
Marvellous idea! I’ll add to the list!
Your voice and story telling is always missed ….and your program I can’t forget.
Thanks for sharing! I really appreciate that!
Fantastic video!!🎉👏👏
Thank you! Cheers!
The engineer, Ken Caillat, wrote an EXCELLENT book about the creation of the album.
For example, he tells the story about my favorite Fleetwood song, Secondhand News. It caused quite a bit of trouble during the recording.
“Add 12db at 16k”
I’m actually gonna start doing this more often now that I tried it out lol
Haha he does like his aggressive EQ!
Some of the first rock/pop music I was exposed to was Rumours. My father and his best friend were into Hi-fi stereo equipment and I'll never forget the moment they compared the first CD release of the album to an original pressing they had of the LP. They played it through my fathers system with Klipsch Cornwall speakers and the difference was night and day the LP was a million times better!!. I would sit in the chair in the living room with my RadioShack cassette recorder and record the music my dad would play through those massive speakers. You could say that was the pivotal moment in my childhood that I became immensely interested in Hi-fi and audio which years later would spark my interest in recording my own music. Rumours was not only influential musically, but sonically.
Love the hair