China - Surveillance state or way of the future? | DW Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2021
- China is building a huge digital surveillance system. The state collects massive amounts of data from willing citizens: the benefits are practical, and people who play by the rules are rewarded.
Critics call it "the most ambitious Orwellian project in human history." China's digital surveillance system involves massive amounts of data being gathered by the state. In the so-called "brain" of Shanghai, for example, authorities have an eye on everything. On huge screens, they can switch to any of the approximately one million cameras, to find out who’s falling asleep behind the wheel, or littering, or not following Coronavirus regulations. "We want people to feel good here, to feel that the city is very safe," says Sheng Dandan, who helped design the "brain." Surveys suggest that most Chinese citizens are inclined to see benefits as opposed to risks: if algorithms can identify every citizen by their face, speech and even the way they walk, those breaking the law or behaving badly will have no chance. It’s incredibly convenient: a smartphone can be used to accomplish just about any task, and playing by the rules leads to online discounts thanks to a social rating system.
That's what makes Big Data so attractive, and not just in China. But where does the required data come from? Who owns it, and who is allowed to use it? The choice facing the Western world is whether to engage with such technology at the expense of social values, or ignore it, allowing others around the world to set the rules.
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They watch us, but who is watching them. " government officials ". We live in a hypocrisy
But besides those anti government or regular criminals the ones that hate it the most are other lower level government officials (not involved in monitoring) who is afraid of being watched now doing naughty things (like visiting mistress/prostitution….).
Umm.. I donno, the voter base? The inspectors and D.A.'s? The court?
Grow up what did you expect, impenetrable decentralized AI surveillance from the start?
RUclips's algorithm has noted your objection.
That's why there's a social credit system, self oppression and censorship is far more powerful than anything the government can do.
The last thing I want is my phone or my refrigerator telling me an onion is going to go bad in a week.
A cabin in the woods is sounding better and better.
How would it know? It looked like he was entering info onto the front of the fridge. Jesus, what a waste of time
Man made things will fail eventually so there is a risk of the damn thing telling you all the food is bad and you're now on a diet. 😆
Predator Drones to Kill
those Not Glowing from Luciferase
or you can't open the fridge because of the comments you made that were not so pro biden online and they reference them on the built in display.
@@uncovidvaxxforthestrongand3582 In time. Count on it.
This is indeed concerning. What's even more concerning is that China is definitely not the only country that imposes this level of surveillance.
Research by Clarion Security Systems estimates that there are over 7,371,903 CCTV cameras in the UK, meaning there is 1 CCTV camera for every 11 people in the UK. You are likely to be captured on UK CCTV up to 70 times per day. Worrying as a UK citizen.
I think it's only concerning if you do something wrong. Knowing that the police are always watching actually makes you feel quite safe sometimes. Speaking as someone who has lived there.
What is concerning also is that the main stream medias don’t seems to care or worst even not beleive it exist...
EEUU ya lo viene haciendo desde hace años. Por un mundo multipolar.
@@BPBrick111 keep licking that boot...
There is no way I want to live in a society like this.
Dont lie to yourself. You are not welcom to China either.
Bro, you're on your phone ......
no one beg u to live there genius🤣
US has over 600 mass shootings per year. China had 5 since 1910. US has over 1000 deaths from police guns per year. China has a little over 1. US voilent crime rate is 485x higher than China's. US homeless population has increased by at least 7% annually since 2017. China has none. I would love to live in China.
@@bohrsmodel81659 😇
Just the fact that criticism is classed as resistance, says it all ..
It's not until you start pushing your views on others
@Sasquatch94 1984
Not really
Fascism in the form of the deep state new world order now encompasses the whole world.
Thank God for the ability to live with one's ideas and to know that democracy cares.
Technology isn't scary but when it falls in the wrong hands it's deadly.
Notice the light saber
True, it can be used for good but also for evil. Human history has taught of man's hunger for absolute power and control. And one thing I have noticed is that movies tend to reveal true agenda of those in power. The question is will technology be used against the human population? That is the question.
IT already is
yes, like CIA
You are on this thing called RUclips which places Ads based on Everywhere you browsed on the interwebs, and your phone knows everyone you know, listens to everything you say, keeps track of everywhere you've been, and counting on every buck in your bank account...
Thank you for spending the time to create and share this content/awareness
What incredible documentaries. And the best of all, free. Thanks for this quality content DW Documentary.
Free? The end goal is to bad mouth China any which way the white dudes can. White dudes are so insecure when it comes to China.
Haha, I want to die laughing, I secretly downloaded a pirated movie in Germany, the police found me immediately and fined me 1,000 euros. I said an anti-government statement on the Chinese Internet, but no police came to find me? ? ? Why? ? ? The double standards of the Western media, fooling their own people, Westerners are still in the middle of the fake news created by the media, I really laughed to death.
The start with the entire family at the dinner table distantly staring at their phones is all you need to know about how ‘good’ this way of the future is
It's increasingly common throughout the world and in China they were the earliest to adopt this pattern.
To be fair, Asian families don't typically eat at dinner table together and talk about there life, that's a western thing
@@haruyanto8085 I think you're wrong. In Asian culture, family unite is very important so it's a common thing to all of the family members sit together and eat at dinner.
Everyone is staring at their phones
@@traaotuong6107 you're right. He was wrong to generalise that all Asian cultures are the same which they most definitely are not! It is becoming increasingly common China though.
That dystopic future we were scared of is already here!
And this younger generation has no clue what's about to happen. I could go on and on. Biden, makes me sick. I can't think about politics it will ruin my day. God Bless you and have a great day sir!
Yes, like cyberpunk 2077
keeping eye --open of technological, it depends on how people use it.
It’ll cause another world war for sure
@@fingerpressgaming1956 World War III started when Bush 41 was POTUS, when he made his “New World Order 1000 Points of Light” speech. It’s just been a relatively quiet (and long) war so far.
thanks Dw for broadcasting these type of documentaries that too free.i have watched couple of other documentaries also by DW and I must say..it's awesome.
Tremendous, informative and an extraordinary documentary👍.
Thank you DW team.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
High technology is fascinating but meanwhile what it is capable of is terrifying
Hitler, Stalin, these dictators, get high-tech, the result is devastating.
new , is It is now two fat pigs, China Xi , and North Korea King
Technology is the tool in which the tyranny is being taken out, humans capabilities, with tools are terrifying
This is Eden Restored
@@STING7 Hope you don't get arrested for saying this.
@@popsicleice8782 the fact u think he’s in mainland China is funny
This is pure orwellian horror..
Lol you wish
It only gets worse.
People are behaving properly when times are good but authorianism will arise as world reaches state of decline.
When there isn't enough resources to everyone then most resources are given the groups who eliminate population.
This is merely a first chapter of such Orwellin horror. We haven't seen anything yet...
@@9axel5 as long as they aren't shooting
@Ron P as long as they aren't shooting
You mean Kingsian ? like Stephen Kind stuff ? Storm of the Century ?
Don't worry, American companies are doing the same 👍
The comment I'm looking for haha...And they have laws to support their shadow banning or whatever they call it too so they can defend it.
I live in china, you won’t think you lost your privacy with so many cameras, on the contrary, you feel safe,you can even went out to eat anywhere ,anytime. Because it’s controlled by the government, the information is safer to be managed by it than other companies. As for tiktok,i think many apps collect data from users,even RUclips,for your preference
Fortunately, the Chinese government is incapable of doing any harm to its citizens... cough *great leap forward* cough *cultural revolution* cough *Tibet's invasion* cough.
@@carlosbeneytocheca1148 As I know,the crime rate of the US is much higher than that in China … shoot,drug ,robbery…
do you know about tiananmen square?
@@haris6424 have you ever heard gunshots and smoked hemp? That’s what your government thinks are really good for you …
@@user-mi9zc7rb3t neither, we have the freedom to not do or to do as much as we please of each
Wow! The fridge tells him when the onion will expire, I wonder will he get penalized if he lets it expire?
The time is now why skimp when you deserve more . Consume sleep the time is now why skimp when you deserve more
Ofc not...
It's a non-serious crime but he'll probably shed a tear
@Unknown Label yes 😂
@Unknown Label Yes. They'll stay fresh longer.
God bless DW for producing these outstanding documentaries and making them available for free. They are better than BBC, CNN, NBC, etc put together.
Left out Fox
@@jimodermann6445 I don't consider Fox a news organisation.
@@jimodermann6445 S by
Indeed, the corrupt propaganda machine, BBC, would never touch a subject as important and terrifying as this. We salute you, DW.
For free?
只有強盜和盜賊才會擔憂這種監視，因為作案難度大了。普通老百姓對此是歡迎的，因為安全提升了。
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As a Chinese, or more precisely as a human being, I don't want to live in an electronic prison. While egregious crimes would be greatly reduced by this e-prison, it becomes much easier for the government to commit crimes, not to mention a communist dictatorship. This is much more horrific than individual crime.
Haha, I want to die laughing, I secretly downloaded a pirated movie in Germany, the police found me immediately and fined me 1,000 euros. I said an anti-government statement on the Chinese Internet, but no police came to find me? ? ? Why? ? ? The double standards of the Western media, fooling their own people, Westerners are still in the middle of the fake news created by the media, I really laughed to death.
口口声声中共独裁，看不到西方独裁？看不到西方Propaganda独裁？
lol "chinese"
yes， he is chinese， but from Taiwan province. He has never been to mainland china.
There is NOTHING good about this. Orwell told us exactly how this ends.
Where can I find the Orwell story please
Find it in the same web.
@@sedrickhamani7843 the book is 1984. It’s an important book. So probably most good book store has it. You could also probably find it online.
@@sedrickhamani7843 1984 is very easy to find online. You can read it either digitally or buy a hard cover.
@Iron Kanabo Like all things in life you must strike a balance. Too much freedom we have anarchy. Too little we have the tragedy of the Soviet Union or North Korea.
Orwell was showing a world in which the balance scale has tipped too far in a direction. Those things you said are just straw manning the points. I believe there are some who genuinely believe like you said, however the significant sum doesn’t.
I feel violated when something or someone is always non-stop staring/watching me.
Funny if you using smartphones right now than makes no difference from your concerns
Lol and you are using a smart phone you are using RUclips which is even worse
God is.
The same happens when you are in a religious cult: you feel the ''all seeing Eye'' is looking you all the time...every move you make, every breath you take. Oh, Sting maybe was talking about feeling like a god in that song (I'll be watching you).
Religions and cults use the same psychological principle of ''I'm watching you'', creating paranoid schizophrenic citizens that allows and love to be mentally ''watched and ausculted'' by a Daddy from the Sky.
This new tech is pragmatically the same, but with different methodology.
*So 🤔🤔🤔*
*If google facebook does it behind your back it's ok and china does it forcefully but openly then it's not*
*there are litigations,anti trust probes against facebook, google, microsoft in multiple countries including european union*
*So much drama what have world come to 🧐🧐😌*
Makes you not want technology anymore.
I really liked how transparent the documentary is!!
It sure seems like we’re creating a future that no one would want to live in.
I want to live in that future, a future safe for my children. The more facial recognition camera's and more surveillance there are everywhere the less criminals can get away with disgusting crimes like rape, murder, kidnapping of children.
@@adamjames5077 It's all fun and games, until the tiny handful of people who have ascended to total control of society use your data evaluate whether you and your family are dissenting their rule. Even the smallest amount of disloyalty might well put a hit on you and your family in this scenario.
@@adamjames5077 what about the people running those cameras and setting those rules? Your assumption of this dystopia is that the people that control it are angels. I’d rather have the freedom to protect my own self interests. This insane idea of we can have better people protect us. There are no better people. The 300 people deciding your future and would be monitoring you aren’t good people. There’s no perfect answer but I would still like to believe democracy and the constitution stand their own. I like my freedom and all that comes with it. I pay my taxes for public schooling, no kids, because I believe a better educated society and helping families is a good thing. Maybe if we all believed in a social responsibility and the freedoms we’ve been given as opposed to this! There’s a lot to pay for freedom. A lot pay for it. Some more than others. Good luck with your V for Vendetta future. But for me, I’d rather have the freedoms I’m afforded even with the odd chance I can’t protect my own and don’t trust the judicial system after.
Have you read some of the comments?
Many people are happy to welcome their own enslavement to the state.
I've come to realise some people are like robots and love making rules and following rules. And not only that but forcing others to follow their rules.
You can never come to China，no one will object. As a Chinese, I am very happy to be born here😜
When a system is in place which has ultimate authority and knowledge of everyone's life it creates a position of power which can be abused to an even higher degree than previously available. Over-reliance of systems, governments, or certain people just gives them more power and opportunity to abuse.
Well said.
Provenance
Relax, nobody will know your life.
nope your just paranoid and pessimistic
@@MargaritaMagdalena ikr lmao this people probs isolate themselves to the point they have trust issues
A real dystopia.
The surveillance effectively reduced the crime rate drastically.
I can see a future where going off grid will be a luxury. People will be so desperate to reconquer their privacy that travelling or migrating to desert places will be a thing. We seriously underestimate what we're getting into.
21:42
Today it is "The better you score..."
Tomorrow it will be "The more you are obedient, the less likely you are to die".
CERTEZA MANO !
GRACAS A DEUS ISSO E SO LA NA CHINA.....
its already like that
@@derekgold7011 I don't know what oyu are talking about having good finanical standing is completely different to social credit standing, its better in every way!
Yeah, you are not being hysterical at all.
I don't know what DW asked the Yu family to do, but his phone showed the screen for Sesame score, by Alibaba, only your activity within their apps are assigned a score for rewards, 550 sesame reward points and up.
24:23 what the docu said about how high score people can skip security is physically impossible.
In China xray machines are all placed at the entrance of the station, which means no one knows who you are, Metro cards are also not tied to your ID, any tourist can buy one and put money in it to use it.
So this documentary is being deliberately dishonest, which is a truly scary thought, considering you and many others have trust in media like DW that manipulates your views and some times outright lies.
I watched a documentary about the problems and benefits of to many cameras, Like in the supermarket if you buy junk food your credit rating goes down, buy healthy goes up, alcohol, cigarettes your credit rating goes down. Going to the gym and exercising in any capacity gets your credit rating higher.. that’s scary stuff
bruh,fake news,only dont pay for bills will decrease the social credit.
This is very unfortunate
I’d rather have troubled freedom over peaceful slavery.
Your living under slavery right now, the only time you experienced freedom is when you weren’t born
With freedom comes death, crime and rape. Would you want a safe society with law and order, or a dangerous society without law and order. Freedom gave birth to slavery, the action to do everything can birth the action to not do everything, but the action to not do everything can’t birth the action to do everything
its never a black and white answer, theres no absolute freedom or absolute lack of it. its all degrees in between.
@@hughmungus2760 That's true, and for some people the current human scale of freedom can be quite narrow. For instance, if the ideal freedom is 100, one person may say the U.S. is a 70 and China a 30. Another person may say that the U.S. is a 30 and China a 15. In the latter case both the American and Chinese systems for freedom are kind of bad, and the person feels much less strongly about their comparison.
It's pretty crazy that there's people walking around the U.S. that still have zero idea that this going on right now.
Yeah lmao. Why do we never hear about how the NSA is literally tracking our every move? The US isn't some "angel" or "good model" here. It's just as insidious, if not worse, than China.
EXACTLY! The U.S. has been doing all this for years! Just no Social Score with it!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mariaawarrior2643 The US is just mad because China is beating us at our own game. Not only spying, but consumerism too. 😎
And there are some things going that you have zero idea that is going on far more damaging then these cameras. Lol.
It is videos of your kind that make me realize that there are so many surveillance videos in my neighborhood. I live at Texas USA.
I feel like it kinda will in someone in different states and great video DW Documentary :]
Don't forget that every software system has an error rate. When they're boasting that the system automatically forwards photos to the right department or can recognize everyone on a street, some fraction of those will be wrong and need human intervention to clean up. It's not magic, it's just software lacking any ethical limitations.
It literally has humans in the these departments checking up?
@Hebaru: Even people with ethical limitations make mistakes. If & when machines ever have ethical limitations it will not make them perfect. How could it?!
Just like the gps showing us to drive out cars into the river, nope I run my own life, as much as possible.
@@divinekatta8370 what a moronic take, imagine if we all fear mongered like you over a one off, as if it's common.
@@divinekatta8370 maybe not the best example but agree. GPS has told to to turn the wrong way on 1 way streets countless times. Stupid or not, in an unfamiliar area it can be very uncool.
"We've created tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works." Chamath Palihapitiya, Former Facebook VP.
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Jeremiah 4:7
“The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way; he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate; and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant.”
We changed the concepts of society when the Internet became available to the public.
I think that the fabric is and will be updated cosistently...but to say its doomsday probably not the case...."I BELIEVE..I" that mankind will adapt and evolve to create a stronger fabric of society as we have done since the first twinkle of man...I think this is just another milestone hurtle that we will overcome and come out the other side more efficient and proficient of a society...just my opinion that all the doomsday talk is just that!
23:16 in video duration. Is that termination or determination?
Thanks so much for posting.
Dude needs a smart fridge, a smart phone, and an app to check an onion. Slave and clueless in his own house.
Thanks man, i needed that laugh after learning how deprived Chinese citizens are becoming.
@@liquidignition sorry , but I think you will never have any chance to laugh at this, because as Chinese our life is very happy
@Google Lies About Privacy bro you're also using it too?
@Google Lies About Privacy sorry to say this to you but my android is modded, and i don't have any google product in my home beside android. and all of my google mail nothing but fake account and for private mail i use proton instead.
@Google Lies About Privacy uhmm, i'm not that mad scientist who would get tracked down by cern because of his microwave, so... it does not concern me in anyway if it was founded by evil cern.
It looks like a big big jail on earth, its scary.
So from that statement you know nothing about China or the real truth about Xinjiang. I guess it's easier to believe all the false shite pumped out by Western media who are very slowly being proved wrong about GENOSIDE in Xinjiang.
@@anthonyroche1848 Chinese account
@@anthonyroche1848 China troll alert
Prison planet.
@@anthonyroche1848 Funny that the original comment did not even mentioned anything about Xin Jiang and you automatically assumed the original comment is everything about Xin Jiang. Really wonder if your response a confession lol
What a world to live in.
Devastating and horrifying.
What a nightmare we're living in
What a nightmare THEY are living in we chilling over here and until i see it with my own two eyes its all talk and intimidation. I don’t believe this will happen in the US but its whatever if it do.
...... too Right! - & Nature will Complete the Job; WITH A VENGEANCE
Phil Liverpool UK 🇬🇧
DW's social score took a serious hit just to present us with this fantastic documentary! Thank you!
...the video did mentioned about being censured by a social network by having partiucular things not being shown to people.. I feel there's some irony somewhere ahahahah lmao
I'm sure China approved of the video. This has been going on for a while now and there's a journalist who is banned from travel and other consequences for true journalism. This is a soft core version of what's going on, and they've had the score system before the pandemic.
It's interesting that DW allows to show it intacted 😅, whilst CIA hunting down Snowden to present the worst spying business & gigentic surveillance program by NSA that affect whole world... Very interesting. Lastly free Assange 💪💪💪
@@chenren6977 Greetings my wu mao friend. Just wanted to inform you that attempt to change the subject wasn't very affective. I hope Winnie still shares part of his honey with you tho
@@RDLFsama no greeting appreciated & surely not your friend... Lots of honey, hope your dad give you some wherever u r. Can't you read, not changing subject, that's a ugly subject you don't like to hear: China is doing the same just domestically than that your CIA daddy did Lol 😂
Would you tell me what language is used in dubbing?
Great work as always, though feel like we need an update of this documentary!
Life should INCLUDE some privacy!
@Michael A Chinese account
@Michael A yeah they banned you 20 times for being a paid Chinese troll
@Michael A lmfao chinese troll bot
Private life, should always remain private.
O. der. ?? You people have no idea. What is comming.
Excellent documentary as always. Makes me miss the analog age of my youth.
Thank you.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the topic!
@Johannes Cailles Guttenburg wtf are you talking about?
Scary stuff indeed.......all planned a long time ago
@Johannes 黄皇唱 I think the worry is that this will spread and influence other countries. China is set to be a world leader by 2050 and with that comes great power and influence. What worries me is that this is just the beginning and it will spread to other countries. First it starts as camera in the street then its cameras in your house and finally just complete thought control with brain chips but thats just me.
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Heavy.
Ps Much Gratitude for sharing.
THANKS FOR THIS WORLD CLASS QUALITY DOCUMENTARIES
This is truly eye-opening. Not that we didn't have hints before but it's bone-chilling to see it presented in such an easy to understand way.
Good point
yeah this is crazy. something like this will come here to America i think. if this is going to come here it should be optional and the companies selling our data should split the profits with us
@@killasomz2771 lol. in communism you don't have options, and ''the companies selling your data'' in the future are the same people acting as a strong arm for the government and using it against you today. that's quite dangerous
@@killasomz2771 6 weeks to flatten the curve turned into mandatory injections with an experimental toxic substance that’s not FDA approved . Despite what you saw on TV. Can only be used under emergency order . Which they will not lift . Your software will be integrated into your biome if you’ve got the shot. Won’t be a problem implementing this anywhere now.
@@chrisdoe6890 damn yo that’s crazy
No thanks that is like one big prison.
It is nothing like prison, don’t be ridiculous
@@cmo5150 would you live there?
@@franz3810 he would sacrifice his remaining brain cells to be a naturally born Chinese citizen
don't be narrow brain. ask youself nobody care about who you are if you don't do.something wrong. 1.4B people live in china, nobody want to waste time to watch you if you are a good persin
@@jasonwang1572 And this way of thinking is how communism takes over a country. Such good little boys and girls.
Thanks for the video
He trusts them lmfao , I guess he has to say it.
Everyone reading this post is currently plugged into at least one AI data surveillance and algorithm system.
@Johnson Li p
Uncle Sam is watching YourAssAye that's why it's called USA. aye aye.
C H I N A I S A S S H O
dystopic world government tyranny at it's finest!- real horror show - welcome to the machine - line up for your 30 daily shots in 30 minutes - total population control techno holocaust 2.0
It does not have to be connected to China in any way. The surveillance technology began in the West. Why would the good west be developing such technology before Russia and China?
I prefer the real world... rather than, a simulation.
What if the real world was a simulation? Maybe it's about the quality of the simulation.. Or.. Is it about being in the highest simulation you can understand? 😴
@@AbdulBido I like to think our higher selves are playing “Earth Human VR” where we fully believe in our roles and egos but once we awaken, the headset is removed and you realize we are all the same player just different avatars.
Belive or not we faced in.
Wow, an excellent documentary, thank you.
What's scary is how many people don't seem to care
They don't understand why data is desirable.
Absolutely mesmerising DW documentary. Much appreciated. This is a living nightmare for the people of the world. Long ago predicted by the likes of George Orwell and 1960s drama 'The Prisoner': this is a thousand times more terrifying. Is it worth being alive anymore?
If Germans are amazed by technology then we have a problem.
Very well,it I will be must better if West Country stop developing those technology,then other countries will over exceed them,hhhhh
Whites are overly dramatic.
God is in control, give your life to Jesus. This world will soon face Jesus Christ in Judgement
The MAIN reason why the USA western media falsely accuses CHINA of mistreating Uyghur Muslims is because they want to prevent the 1.6 Billion Chinese worldwide and 2.0 Billion Muslims from working together. Both these groups have been discriminated by USA and the WEST for decades and are more likely to work together. Chinese & Muslim nations working together will lead to US losing its dominance of the world. Plus this will gain Asia, Russia, Eastern Europe and African support too including the rest of the world such as Latin America. ,
This is exactly the stuff dystopian nightmares are made off. I’m really glad I’m old, I’ll be dead when this kind of sheite will be implemented in the EU.
Umm it's happening right now
The only thing I look forward to is a good death brother.
Mass surveillance already happens in the EU
the Chinese surveillance system is complex but it is childs play compared to what the boys in the NSA have cooking
It's already there, ma'am. They can see you, you can't see them. They can watch you with a satellite technology where there is not even a camera in sight. The cameras are in space. Honestly.
Interesting! Thanks DW🙏🙏
As vulnerable human beings it's no wonder people want nothing more than to have advanced security like this...but at what cost?
This system is not meant to provide security, but to ensure strict control and manipulation of the masses. There is nothing safe about it, and there are not long lasting benefits of it, other than lack of freedom on every level
Let's list the costs shall we? US has over 600 mass shootings per year, China has had 5 since 1910. US has over 1000 deaths by police guns per year. China averages over 1. US has about 380 violent crimes per 100,000. China has less than 1 per 100,000.
I'd say it's costing Americans too much.
Black mirror literally did an episode of this, this is insane. :0
And there is the problem. People watched the Black Mirror episode and thought wow, how bad would that be if it happened. Its already happened!! The reality of this situation is terrifying but the West ignores it until it shows up in a tv show. We deserve everything that's coming
London has the highest number of camera surveillance. You fools don’t know you are already being monitored until they made anti China propaganda on your own situations.
What episode?
@@tunissaadia8064 China is reversing time to 1984. LoL. This is terrifying.
@@johnbui6530 Mike Pompeo openly asked US high tech companies to leave backdoor for CIA.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Edward R. Murrow
The bible is a good example of the wolf and sheep... Great way to bring in fascism and chinaism; considering the USA was a head of its time with credit scores, cameras in high wealth areas; china still has a long way to go.
The Western media demonizes us every day
@@user-cz5qp8yt8g Are you a member of the Chinese Communist Party? Because that is the only thing that the Western media demonizes.
You must be referring to the USA… they are heavily propagandized. They can’t even tell what’s reality and what’s fake anymore, therefore they blame everything on “fake news” lol it’s hilarious that people think Chinese people are brainwashed when I see blind ignorance everyday here in the US
@@user-cz5qp8yt8g they actually only demonize the ccp, chinese people as a whole arent bad at all
I used to live in China, both online payment and surveillance cameras are very convenient, you only need to carry a mobile phone, you can do anything, buy anything, go anywhere, reduce the risk of cash and card loss, as for the camera, there may be criminals and thieves in any country, the camera can quickly find the criminal suspects, speed up the time to solve the case. And some elderly people are easy to get lost, the camera can quickly find them, even for their own home, people are also willing to install a camera, because if you work in a far place, you can see the situation at home at any time, see the family, are very convenient.
they use that system to find people who protest . nothing more . social credit score
Government got alert!
@@mayakahahe3723 Why are you afraid of the government? As long as you are not a criminal! These cameras are a form of protection for you, of course, if you are committing a crime, it will be your nightmare
This is absolutely one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
Perfect for enforcing hundreds of new rules to ensure that no person is individual or free
True.
Don't listen to this propaganda, do your own research on it. But let's face it. People won't.
@@MrRemakes That sounds like Nazi.
@Kevin Umiten Really you need to rephrase your belief to the more tangible and truthful: I agree to fully submit and comply with all government orders regardless of how I feel about them or whether they are morally wrong because I have submitted all my freedoms and choices to a power I deem higher than myself. In reality mate the loss of your freedom is never replaced with higher security. The threat is still there, you just have less freedom and become more powerless.
It's absolute morons like you that put Hitler into power.
The idea of the individual only existed after the industrial revolution, it was created by classical liberals that were mostly bourgeois elites. All that talk of liberty you here about in the west is only for the capital-owning class, the average citizen has basically no liberties in practice.
The programming and algorithms are no that impossible to do nowadays. Any government can do this now. The challenge should have been whether all of these control systems are even truly beneficial let alone ethical. Technology should augment and enrich human lives and not control it.
But the problem is that software is programmed by biased people always.
Humans augment technology to control other humans.
The people who develop it and control it are psychopaths. They're not doing this to make us happier or to enrich our lives.
China's government are thinking of maximizing the productivity of its population, which translate to more power as a whole for China. They're a highly competitive society. This is achieved via a system of reward and penalty.
@@lrn_news9171 dystopia
Literally got a ad for TikTok then a TikTok notification literally at the 13:44 Mark
~ my goodness.!!?
~ catch up Adz...
Very interesting documentary .
Thoroughly recommended...
"but at what cost?" Literally every video about China has this line lol
China bad, western nation who's commit countless genocide and invasions good
What is this West y'all refer to? From China India, Georgia, Romania, Kenya, Angola, Brazil, Canada and many more countries lay to the West. So what are you talking about?
Not to mention CCP does mime the "Wests" practices by doing almost the same in/with countries that actually let China in. So much for who is the greedy terrorist or believes has privileges over the world: CCP learned the lesson well.
@@joecater894 no, because you can judge history
@@annakalakatroni4708 west means first world country who had participated in world wars and we call them westerner like americans europians
The "but at what cost?" is more like "im gonna tell you "bad things" about this topic so keep with your china biases".
When he says he trusts the chinese government with the data... I wonder if that's what he actually believes or if he just says that to avoid having his life destroyed...
It’s what Chinese people really believe. But people from other countries may not believe what he believes.
Well what has the Chinese ever done with his data? Did it cause the people to storm their capital buildings? Did it accelerate a virus that is still spreading within the country? Does it cause an increase in teenagers with mental health disorders?
@@julioduan7130 the Chinese government took them from being one of the poorest and underdeveloped countries in the world to the 2nd biggest economy in the world
@@haruyanto8085 I guess as long as he never says the words "tiananmen square massacre" out loud he should be fine.
Also all the stuff you said like Jan 6th and anti-vaxxers are due to older out of touch white people falling victim to con artists like Donald Trump, Fox News and far right content on Facebook... which yeah is destroying the US from the inside, but you can't really equate it with how if you say a fact or bring up something that upsets the CCP in China you're highly likely to be imprisoned and show up on TV a few month's later reading an apology letter to the Chinese people. The main issue is the combination of a surveillance state + a government that is likely to arrest you for stating facts, or wearing a shirt with Winnie-the-Pooh on it.
I live in a surveilance nightmare in brazil, neighbors gang stalk me sometimes with strangers and i hear commentary over things i am watching on tv and sometimes even phone its pretty much like there is no privacy, only thing missing is a camera pointed to my face to watch my every move, heard that there are signals that can be used to see trough walls considering that phones are always with us they could be constantly used to improve such systems if true.
Guess China is off the travel list
it makes no difference to the current generation addicted to putting their entire lives online. They can't live for a SINGLE moment without that lurking online audience.
You should put that on facebook.
the differnce is that you can delete social media and not participate while the chinese have no choice but to participate
@@kae2678 Agreed but Facebook is still the government. It's a DARPA/CIA program originally called LifeLog. It was "discontinued" by the government on February 4, 2004, after civil liberty concerns. Facebook was founded on February 4, 2004. They just registered it as a private company
Link please?
@@kae2678, maybe. I don't think that anything is ever deleted. You may not be able to see it anymore. But it is still out there.
That credit system seems straight out of a Black Mirror episode.
anyone who knows what love is...
its coming to you soon
How are the credit systems in other countries different? In fact, it's the Western capitalist system that first invented the Credit System.
@@yongy2000 the credit system was set up for loans not controlling the population. On the other hand the boys in the NSA have an even more complex system of monitoring.
@@eyasulegesse6208 I think you may be under-estimating the power of the credit system in a capitalist society. Fundamentally it is a social control tool. What credit score you have determines what economic resources you can access and at what cost which in turn determines what kind of neighborhood you get to live in (buy or rent), where your kids may enroll in schools and even what kind of car you get to drive and the type of people you get to come in contact with on a daily basis. Your point on the NSA is well taken.
Thank you for this video 🎉❤
Watching that family, all together in one room but all apart, separated by their phones, and devices was scary and very sad. This is how it goes now? I live alone so, I don't really see how things are. Even in their car, they were interacting more with the internet than between them. I bet they do it in bed together, and then go to sleep without really talking to each other. If i had a companion and kids around, you bet that i'd try to make things differently. When we go visit my parents, nobody is allowed to carry their mobile phones at the table or in the living room. There's a small basket at the entrance, we leave it there. My parents refuse to be ignored while we scroll. And i couldn't agree more with them.
family: "use their phone for 5 seconds on camera to show what they can do with their phone"
simple mind people: "Watching that family, all together in one room but all apart, separated by their phones, and devices was scary and very sad. blah blah blah"
Your are either blind or a state operative - either way your a fool
I mean... I can answer for you. Being completely alone yet online is not the same as having family and friends around and being online. I still engage in social interaction, I still play with my brother irl. Oftentimes actually the stuff I find when I'm scrolling online (like memes), I do so to show to my brother, otherwise it's not as fun or interesting (the funniest stuff are when they're shared with others). It's not like my family's "fallen apart" just because me and my brother scroll on tik tok or because my brother plays roblox and my parents talk to family friends on facebook. Like, we still all speak to each other and go on trips like this summer we went to Alton Towers (theme park in the UK)
I feel like people who act as if technology is some social ill or act as if human interaction has died because they think people somehow can't meter their own use of technology are the exact types of people who would become internet addicts or can't meter their internet use. Normal, well-adjusted people can. It's not the end of the world bud
@@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 exactly people act like it’s impossible to use a phone and talk to someone I swear
@@chimkitendi9709 it's not impossible but if someone is speaking to you but you're staying at your phone or tablet or whatever... Are you really paying attention and connecting? No, you're not. Other than that example, it's just really rude to be inattentive to those trying to speak with you.
As individuals, we should understand that China is the model for all of our future dystopian lives.
Maybe in a restless mind! Like those who dream of Hollywood life styles? Like those demonstrators in the US? It seems they have nothing else to contribute except organizing demonstrations! This is life!
Explain your tunnel vision because the future is not now and there are still possiblities
@@starlitesunil5701, that's what he means by "dystopian"
@@NurdRage777 Unfortunately, it's not my tunnel vision. I wish it was. You should watch Professor Micheo Kaku's RUclips video on the future of humanity and the Kardashev technologically advanced future.
I can't wait
This is crazy I understand a financial credit score but a social credit score….this is beyond terror
my friend worked at a pool, without the company's knowledge, he got paid directly by customers and kept them money for himself; after almost half a year he quit his job as a swimming instructor and left the pool establishment. a few people have had their subscriptions canceled as they never got them registered and this guy actually skimmed the money. NOW a few months later, a policeman called him and told him that he's been waited for at his house etc etc, in fact that policemen was a customer and he illegally accessed the government citizen database to find out about this guy, his address, etc, to extort him on the money he paid for the courses at the pool. so again what my friend did is not ok, but the pool management is the subject that is affected, the customers have to go the the pool to get their money back and the pool management must address police on my friend. in this case a policemen privately and illegally accessed the database and went privately,called stalked my friend and extort him on his money. that what citizen databases are subjected to.
I like how they even added a holographic brain in their UI for the extra Black Mirror razzle dazzle ✨😂
Thats DW propaganda for you
Or ✨black mirror was based on this✨
Hats off to DW to broadcasting valuable documentaries
Thanks for watching and for the support! :-)
Its called propaganda....
The video has subtly biased, typical western media - demonizing China from all aspects. Advanced technology was described as creepy thing in the video.
@@karlmarx9458 You literally support a one party state L
Haha, I want to die laughing, I secretly downloaded a pirated movie in Germany, the police found me immediately and fined me 1,000 euros. I said an anti-government statement on the Chinese Internet, but no police came to find me? ? ? Why? ? ? The double standards of the Western media, fooling their own people, Westerners are still in the middle of the fake news created by the media, I really laughed to death.
As someone living in China,these cameras have made the society really safe .
Yeah, as long as you follow Xi‘s orders, and as he tells you that us westerners are dangerous yet he ripped off and came here to study, and would know nothing if it wasn’t for all he stole from us Westerners yet you continue to believe his manipulative lies because if you don’t, he will hurt your family, you are literally the personification of George Orwell’s 1984 and one day before hopefully before it’s too late, you will realize you were wrong all along for giving up your freedom for what you think is “safety”. your brainwashed beyond belief but your government says the rest of the world is brainwashed and you guys are correct to keep all 1.4 billion of you truly brainwashed and as puppets and slaves of the state.
Have a good time with it. Im not interested in being surveilled everywhere all the time and social credit slave being told what I can do or say.
Bro everyone is surveiled in the world in any country there is no privacy...@darrenwebb5334
@@darrenwebb5334 I also dont want to get robbed or stabbed in an alley somewhere without witnesses. Pick you poison.
Yes and It's important for security too
It's much more complex than what is described in this video but data is being collected on everyone. They want to know your faith, your politics, your activism, your sexual identity, your habits, your posts, your pictures, your behavior (do you pray?). Data collection will be the way of the future.
Eventually as things progress towards the Book of Revelation things will get worse; and they'll desperately want to know if you own a Bible or go to Bible-believing churches.
I'm seeing a lot of references to Orwell here. Did you catch the next-to-last line? "In this brave new world..." Give Aldous some credit, too.
the continuation of the coiv lockdowns . agenda of enslavement.
Imagine the situation that the people always watch their devices anytime even while eating their meal without any conversation would be normal for us.
Getting points deducted for not chewing your food well enough.
Too late. That’s how it is everywhere on Earth now, I’m afraid.
Imagine it? Go to any restaurant, any day, anywhere, and you will see it. 😎
Phones and watches makes us go cross eyed
I wouldn't call "cashless payments" an advantage.
I'd say the public is going further out to lunch.
Freedom is critically essential for human mental health. Freedom's purpose goes very deep in our life and you can't ever take it away unless you trade it for another critical part of our life.
Freedom to walk safely without getting robbed or raped. Freedom to walk in a clean space without graffiti, without garbage. Participate in traffic without being killed by mad and/or drunk drivers.
Totally agree, freedom of not being caught speeding is very important. Lol
There're more mentally unstable ppl, sex crimes, drug addicts, and higher incarceration in the u.s. by far.
It's the Freedom that takes the credit of...
They free.. just not free to be a criminal. But most people can’t handle being a law abiding decent person so I understand why it could be a problem
Freedom as an abstract idea is overrated.
20 minutes in and the crew still hasn't managed to find someone willing to truly speak out against their government. These people are afraid.
I wouldn’t want my credit rating to take a hit either. It’s the ultimate form of coercion. You don’t even have to throw the disloyal troublemaker into the gulag - you can achieve much more effective compliance by tightening the noose more slowly and gently.
With that many cameras, what do you think.
Hahaha, afraid of what?
@@junzheyang9743 china ez sheeps
Or may be they are more satisfied with their government than their western counterparts. You people have to understand China was in abject poverty 30 years ago. From there they are now on the threshold of becoming the largest economy of the world. Why should then they be cross with their government? They are living a better life now than their predecessors.
Just to progress my character arc, I will not rip into how reliable the technology and the state is, I will rather ask, with this big of a network how would they provide cyber security?
this is what happens when you don't have proper scifi getting through the censors
I don't want to be frightened by dystopian fearmongering that puts a certain ideology over developmental interest.
And this is the kind of comment you make when you're fed repeatedly with extravagantly dystopian scifi stories that prevents your country's technological development to grow.
And those two comments above are what you get when you pay people to protect your country’s interest online. But I mean yea, it’s not fearmongering, and we should never fully trust our governments or corporations because their goals and interests don’t always align with morality or the best interests of the people or individual. It’s just common sense.
Emmm, China doesn’t censor sci-fi movies. It care about violence and nudity due to the lack of a rating system
@@ruekurei88 Good luck with your ideology. And another thing, supporting a certain policy of a certain gov. doesn't always mean getting paid for it. Accusations without evidence don't support your cause/ideology/bias/whatever. I wish I had this protection but in my country, police can't even get cellphone thieves because of lack of evidence and women can't get out in the public after 9 PM due to lack of public safety/criminal surveillance. I think a good thing in liberal democracy if it's practiced is, hearing out diverse perspectives. There is an individualistic perspective in the west and a collectivist perspective in China. The Chinese society is like a strict family of more than 1.4 billion people with its leaders as parents. Both systems have their pros and cons. No system is perfect or superior to another.
Great documentary on a very disturbing issue.
A bit like your haircut...
@@doubleuponbob3397
a bit like your ignorance
and ad hominem fallacy.
@26:00: A refrigerator texting a reminder to eat an onion might be the most inane use of technology I've ever heard
Scale problems are mostly handled by actuarial consultancies within medium size metropolitan statistical areas
What’s true about TikTok is true about Facebook, RUclips and others
Yes, but none of those platforms have police powers in the West. The government can’t prosecute you here for having the wrong religion like the Chinese communists prosecute the Uighers.
@@lashlarue7924 i wonder what make you so stupid and arrogant, Biden even knows your bank account pin number
@@luyaoli3239 Rubbish…
@@lashlarue7924 Most certainly that's how it is now in the west... But who knows 20 or 50 years from now. It seems to be working just fine for the Chinese government and surely others have been taking notes all this time, so it's just a matter of time until it starts spreading all over the world.
@@jordel2010 Oh, it's working wonderfully for the Chinese government. And the Chinese people love it too, there is little doubt about that. The problem is that the people trust the government... but their government most certainly does NOT trust them. It's like a frog being boiled alive slowly in a pot of water, who does not realize they are being cooked until it's too late. It's already too late for the Chinese, but the rest of us can still hope that constitutional order and the rule of law will prevent the executive branch from sending us all to "re-education camps" like the CCP did to the Uighers.
This is extremely scary, and what scares me more is that my government does the same thing(U.S) despite having laws to protect privacy.
They do but more covertly. It will be brazen very soon though
Dunno, China's cross-referenced databases, facial recognition, AI, and even personality-detection algorithms, censorship and 'ratings' etc. still seem wa-ay ahead of us. And yeah, the West might be headed there (covertly or otherwise). But they've still got a long way to go, so we still have opportunities to push back and impose 'limits' (if we can just get offa our lazy azzes).
It’s literally not even covertly, it tells you in the terms of use whenever you’re downloading apps, accessing webpages and etc…
And if that wasn’t enough Edward Snowden put his ass on the line by drawing more attention to it and people still didn’t and still don’t care…lol
@@LowenKM The US is a decade ahead in mass surveillance as Snowden has revealed. US govt spying over its own people is so advanced now that the CIA can track the movement of people by using routers and wifi signals as radar, even if the devices you use don't have a GPS/location system.
It's the big reason why Snowden is still a top target for the US govt.
@@yaz2928 Hard to say how 'relevant' Snowden is anymore, considering he left the NSA in 2013, nearly 8 years ago, which is decades to AI developments and Info Tech. So if the Gubmint also has a social 'rating' system like China's, I prolly wouldn't be among his 'Followers'. ;-p