Knoebels deserves a lot of credit for reviving wonderful old rides. May not be the fastest,highest, or most intense, but there is nothing else like it.
Couldn't agree more. With this generation it's all about insanity when it comes to roller coasters. The bigger and faster it is, the better. That's not necessarily true. A lot of times the older rides are the best, especially wooden coasters if they're well maintained. Phoenix and Twister are two of the best woodies I've ever ridden and I've ridden a lot and Knoebels has some of the best flat rides of any park out there. Not to mention they give you much longer rides for a lower price.
mhtube01 Well said. couldn't agree more. I love Knoebles. I live a little more than 50 miles from the park and try to visit every year. My home park though is Hersheypark.
CoasterForce, can I just say your POVs are by far the best to watch on RUclips. There's no annoying grunts, "weeeeees" and unfunny commentary. Keep up the great work!
Flying Turns was still being built the last time I was at Knoebels. I went off to college and later moved out of the area so I never got to ride it! Glad to see the pov! 😊
So that's why it's called Flying Turns. The cars went higher up then I anticipated. If I ever get the chance to go to Knoebels I shall check out this ride. (and the rest of the rides I keep hearing great things about)
"Flying Turns" is actually the generic word for several wooden bobsled coasters removed decades ago. The ride is basically a recreation of an extinct coaster model.
tbh when you first get on it and come off the tracks for the first time, you think "eh this ride isn't too fast or really thrilling" but when you get to the second part and you go off the tracks from higher up it goes a lot faster and it's much more thrilling!! amazing ride, would definitely recommend it!
You have to keep in mind, the original flying turns were built when H&S laws were much less strict. New laws are way too strict so making these nowadays is almost impossible, so the fact that they even tried let alone succeeded is amazing.
This is for everybody on here saying that this isn't a very intense ride. I've ridden this a few times already and it may not be as fast or as big as other roller coasters being built, but once you get going, this ride is probably more fun than any other new coasters opening. I think it is going to be the best new roller coaster of 2014!!!
Most of the time it took to make the ride was spent on developing cars that were safe and reliable and that was largely out of the park's control. They also had to battle with flood damage while waiting for car prototypes that worked they way they wanted.
If I understood correctly the cars once used on Flying Turns models would not pass inspection today. So they had to create a new type of car from scrach.
I wish Holiday World in Santa Clause, Indiana would do something like this. This seems to be right up their alley. They are very much into wooden thrill rides.
I am from Chicago, and when I was growing up as a family we went to an amusement park called Riverview. The park also had a bobsled ride called the Flying Turns. The park was torn down in 1967.
great ride! was lucky enough to ride the first weekend it opened last Oct. Hope the lines arent too long this Aug. cant wait Knoebels is the best park ever!!
The 3-car train zigzags back and forth wildly along the sides of the constricted wooden trough, creating a unique uncontrolled, claustrophobic sense to the action, but the main part is a very short ride, barely over 30 seconds. Still, it's worth riding once for the experience since there is nothing else like it in the US. Note that the lines are usually slow because they typically only put one adult in a car, or two if kids are along. This is because there are weight limits and weight distribution issues that require careful loading; overweight riders are not allowed.
7 years in the making! Kudos for Knoebels for getting it done though. Looks like a fun lil ride, is the swinging as intense as it looks on video?? Usually rides are understated in POV, so I'm excited to ride this...will be going in a couple of weeks. Is it a fun ride?
This is probably as close as I'll ever get to riding a bobsled. When I was a youngster the Flying Turns was one of my favorite rides at Riverview Park. I am happy to see that Knoebels rebuilt it.
Alpine coaster = Narrow-gauge roller coaster that can be ridden in the winter. Bobsled coaster = Roller coaster with u-shaped track similar to a bobsled run or water slide. Alpine slide = Roller coaster similar to a bobsled coaster, but with single-person cars like an alpine coaster. Track usually made of concrete, and is much narrower because of the tiny cars.
This ride is so similar to the Flying Turns ride at Euclid Beach Park in Cleveland, Ohio.....the park closed in 1969. I rode the Flying Turns there from 1959 - 1969. I'm not sure of the build date for that ride, but I think it was built in the 30's. I think the Euclid Beach version was a little faster and longer, but I'm looking forward to riding the new one this year. Thanks to Knoebels for not giving up on their beautiful new Flying Turns!
Tom Green It's not the same coaster. This one had to be built completely from scratch because all of the previous ones were either destroyed by fire or scrapped, including the one at Euclid Beach. However a copy of the blueprints from the one in Cleveland were used in helping design this one.
From 0:00 to 1:06 it's all lifthill, then 29 seconds later, from 1:35 to 2:39 the thing is only busy with coming back to the station. That's more than 75% of the ride time busy with non-ride movements!
Yup, it goes into a wooden half pipe! That was common starting in the 1920s, but disappeared in the 1970s. Knoebels reproduced the ride from photos, as no blueprints survived.
Guys it's not supposed to be thrilling! It's a really cool ride. Nobody cares if it's a poor imitation of another ride. It's very fun, and you haters just can't except that it's not a thrilling ride. Go on other rides for gods sake
Especially considering it's not hiding the fact that it's an imitation. It was made to preserve the history of the original. Some people just want to complain instead of be amazed that this ride even exists.
Certainly not the Flying Turns the Forest Park Highlands in St. Louis had. It only had one chain lifted hill and the rest was all the wooden trough shapes to the bottom. Probably is a good idea since it takes a rather extended route which gives you more for the money.
OK thanks but can you ask EastCoasterGeneral to return to the park one day to film this coaster with his handheld camera and an HD POV of the Twister and the Black Diamond? Please respond.
Is it fun and worth waiting for? I went to knobels on Saturday and I wanted to try it but the line was of course longggg is it worth the wait for I know for next time I go? 😊
I'd say it's worth the wait. It's a one of a kind ride, nothing like anything else out there so you have nothing to compare it to basically. It doesn't go very fast but it doesn't have to, it really throws you around some of the turns but it's very smooth and has it's own kind of thrill. Next time you go, try and go during the week and get there when the parks opens and go straight for Flying Turns. You won't have much of a wait then.
Hey Coasterforce, two questions i need to ask you. First, did EastCoasterGeneral film an on-ride video of this coaster with his handheld camera? If he did, can you ask him to post it to this channel? Second, I would like it if you make a playlist for Toverland, but you don't have to. Please respond to both questions.
have you gone on impulse at knoebels yet I went on it yesterday (when it opened) it is sooooo fun omg it's amazing please make a video of it 💫 thanks bye✌️
think you for your movie , i have a question. if think the speed is to high is it confortable ? because in france in parc asterix trace du hourra its not very confortable and shaky :) think you man
This is a poor imitation of the former Riverview Park, Chicago, Flying Turns which was alongside the Bobs roller coaster, one of the best ever. Does anyone know why Riverview Park was demolished?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverview_Park_(Chicago).The former grounds are now home to Riverview Plaza shopping center, the Belmont District Police Station, DeVry University, a manufacturing company and Richard Clark Park, part of the Chicago Park District. The south end of Clark Park has a wooded area where many of the Riverview Park foundations are still visible and is currently used as a bicycle dirt jump and pump track park maintained by the Chicago Area Mountain Bikers. A sculpture entitled Riverview by local artist Jerry Peart stands in front of the police station.
It is short but that's due to limited space. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Knoebels but they used to have a steel coaster in this spot called the Whirlwind which they tore down in 2004. Believe it or not, the Whirlwind was probably 2/3 the length of Flying Turns! It was a smaller coaster with a curved drop, two corkscrews and two banked curves and that was it. lol. They built a flat ride called the Looper in part of the area where the Whirlwind stood which made space more limited for Flying Turns. It's a good ride though, definitely one of a kind. Just ride it more than once if the line isn't too long!
Whirlwind was just a boring Vekoma Mk-1200 that they sold to a park in Costa Rica. Flying Turns is a much better fit for the park even if it's not the most exciting ride in the world. I don't think the Looper's location was an issue really, it's a carnival flat ride that's easy to relocate.
Yeah the lines have definitely came down for the newer rides. Like impulse basically has no lines ever and this ones lines are probably about 30 ish minutes
Euclid Beach original hit a whopping 16 mph, but seemed like 80 when you're a kid- This one looks slower than that in this video- I guess going from 0 to 122 mph in a quarter mile would do that to ya'...
It's open! I rode it and it's a lot of fun! Very different from anything else out there so you really can't compare it to anything. If you haven't gotten to Knoebels yet this year you should go and ride it. Go on a week day though so it isn't as crowded and you won't have to wait nearly as long. My suggestion is get there when the park opens and go straight to the line until they finish testing it. That way you'll have almost no wait.
mhtube01 I really hope to ride it someday.I was at the park in Sept of 2011.My hubby isn't really interested in going back.He did enjoy riding the Phoenix.
I Go To This Park But I Havent Went On This Ride Quite Yet. although From My House In Delawhere It Takes A Shorter Time To Get To Dutch Wonderland. Unfortunatly My Brother Wants To Go To Knoebles Instead of Dutch Wonderland. Also Dutch Wonderland Copied Most Rides At Knoebles Which Makes Me A Bit Anxious.
Knoebels deserves a lot of credit for reviving wonderful old rides. May not be the fastest,highest, or most intense, but there is nothing else like it.
Couldn't agree more. With this generation it's all about insanity when it comes to roller coasters. The bigger and faster it is, the better. That's not necessarily true. A lot of times the older rides are the best, especially wooden coasters if they're well maintained. Phoenix and Twister are two of the best woodies I've ever ridden and I've ridden a lot and Knoebels has some of the best flat rides of any park out there. Not to mention they give you much longer rides for a lower price.
mhtube01 Well said. couldn't agree more. I love Knoebles. I live a little more than 50 miles from the park and try to visit every year. My home park though is Hersheypark.
A.R Coaster Guy are there others?...whats bad about it. You post just seems ignorant and arrogant. Just saying....
Richard Keyser I think it’s a great ride but also there’s La Vibora at my home park Six Flags Over Texas
I love the total feel and atmosphere of Knoebel's. One of the few truly family friendly parks left.
Yeah
CoasterForce, can I just say your POVs are by far the best to watch on RUclips. There's no annoying grunts, "weeeeees" and unfunny commentary.
Keep up the great work!
Flying Turns was still being built the last time I was at Knoebels. I went off to college and later moved out of the area so I never got to ride it! Glad to see the pov! 😊
Looks lovely, nice to see a 1920's style wooden coaster rebuilt & the only one of it's type.
So that's why it's called Flying Turns. The cars went higher up then I anticipated. If I ever get the chance to go to Knoebels I shall check out this ride. (and the rest of the rides I keep hearing great things about)
"Flying Turns" is actually the generic word for several wooden bobsled coasters removed decades ago. The ride is basically a recreation of an extinct coaster model.
tbh when you first get on it and come off the tracks for the first time, you think "eh this ride isn't too fast or really thrilling" but when you get to the second part and you go off the tracks from higher up it goes a lot faster and it's much more thrilling!! amazing ride, would definitely recommend it!
KNOEBELS is literally the best!! Their cabins are pretty and the rides are amazing.
Love this ride! Kudos to Knoebels for having the foresight to try it and the determination to finish it!
+Thunderheadfan5 I think they should try and do a Virginia Reel next!
+Sambo0909 or even better - a wooden mouse! 😃
Launched woodie?
+Sambo0909 I like the way you think, though that kind of coaster is probably a bit too ambitious for a family park like Knoebels. 😀
+Thunderheadfan5 Yeah, you're right. I'm still surprised they built Impulse to be honest.
I can't believe it took so long, but at least it finally opened, after 7 years.
8!
You have to keep in mind, the original flying turns were built when H&S laws were much less strict. New laws are way too strict so making these nowadays is almost impossible, so the fact that they even tried let alone succeeded is amazing.
As an enthusiast I waited the hour to go on this and it was worth it!
At hallo fun during halloween i waited 1 1/2 hours to get on
This is for everybody on here saying that this isn't a very intense ride. I've ridden this a few times already and it may not be as fast or as big as other roller coasters being built, but once you get going, this ride is probably more fun than any other new coasters opening. I think it is going to be the best new roller coaster of 2014!!!
This ride is cool it takes back to the roots of the roller coaster
Most of the time it took to make the ride was spent on developing cars that were safe and reliable and that was largely out of the park's control. They also had to battle with flood damage while waiting for car prototypes that worked they way they wanted.
If I understood correctly the cars once used on Flying Turns models would not pass inspection today. So they had to create a new type of car from scrach.
I wish Holiday World in Santa Clause, Indiana would do something like this. This seems to be right up their alley. They are very much into wooden thrill rides.
I am from Chicago, and when I was growing up as a family we went to an amusement park called Riverview. The park also had a bobsled ride called the Flying Turns. The park was torn down in 1967.
this is incredibly creative
great ride! was lucky enough to ride the first weekend it opened last Oct.
Hope the lines arent too long this Aug. cant wait
Knoebels is the best park ever!!
Edward Staniszewski currently they are normally out of the door so the wait is about 35 minutes
I am from Chicago, and when I was growing up as a family we went to an amusement park called Riverview.
The 3-car train zigzags back and forth wildly along the sides of the constricted wooden trough, creating a unique uncontrolled, claustrophobic sense to the action, but the main part is a very short ride, barely over 30 seconds. Still, it's worth riding once for the experience since there is nothing else like it in the US.
Note that the lines are usually slow because they typically only put one adult in a car, or two if kids are along. This is because there are weight limits and weight distribution issues that require careful loading; overweight riders are not allowed.
7 years in the making! Kudos for Knoebels for getting it done though. Looks like a fun lil ride, is the swinging as intense as it looks on video?? Usually rides are understated in POV, so I'm excited to ride this...will be going in a couple of weeks.
Is it a fun ride?
Yeah, the swinging is actually pretty intense! (Just rode today)
It's a little scary if it's ur first time and the line is kind of long but the wait is worth it the turns are also pretty intense
tiki2188 now it is DEFINITELY more intense. they have improved it a lot
This is probably as close as I'll ever get to riding a bobsled. When I was a youngster the Flying Turns was one of my favorite rides at Riverview Park. I am happy to see that Knoebels rebuilt it.
I love this ride
I’m going there tomorrow!! Thanks for the video
What a unique coaster :O
I go to Knoebels every year! :) yay, this finally opened! Hahs
I went to knobles today and I was LIGIT standing in line for 2 hours
Alpine coaster = Narrow-gauge roller coaster that can be ridden in the winter.
Bobsled coaster = Roller coaster with u-shaped track similar to a bobsled run or water slide.
Alpine slide = Roller coaster similar to a bobsled coaster, but with single-person cars like an alpine coaster. Track usually made of concrete, and is much narrower because of the tiny cars.
This ride is so similar to the Flying Turns ride at Euclid Beach Park in Cleveland, Ohio.....the park closed in 1969. I rode the Flying Turns there from 1959 - 1969. I'm not sure of the build date for that ride, but I think it was built in the 30's. I think the Euclid Beach version was a little faster and longer, but I'm looking forward to riding the new one this year. Thanks to Knoebels for not giving up on their beautiful new Flying Turns!
I could be wrong but i think this is the same ride...I thought they bought the ride and fixed it up...someone may know more about this than i do
Tom Green It's not the same coaster. This one had to be built completely from scratch because all of the previous ones were either destroyed by fire or scrapped, including the one at Euclid Beach. However a copy of the blueprints from the one in Cleveland were used in helping design this one.
***** ahh thanks so much for the info....look forward to my first ride!
That was awsome, would love to try this one
Now this ride looks like a lot of fun!!!
From 0:00 to 1:06 it's all lifthill, then 29 seconds later, from 1:35 to 2:39 the thing is only busy with coming back to the station. That's more than 75% of the ride time busy with non-ride movements!
Can't wait to ride it this year!
awesome,been waiting for this POV,looks great!
So wait does this go off the track? That's beast!!!!!!
Yup, it goes into a wooden half pipe! That was common starting in the 1920s, but disappeared in the 1970s. Knoebels reproduced the ride from photos, as no blueprints survived.
Guys it's not supposed to be thrilling! It's a really cool ride. Nobody cares if it's a poor imitation of another ride. It's very fun, and you haters just can't except that it's not a thrilling ride. Go on other rides for gods sake
Especially considering it's not hiding the fact that it's an imitation. It was made to preserve the history of the original. Some people just want to complain instead of be amazed that this ride even exists.
Nice ride to remind us of the upcoming olympic winter games--bobsled runs. Go Jamaica!
Looks so fun!
My family will be going to Knoebel's this July and I will be riding this!
Fantastic family ride, looks like a wooden version of bpb avalanche
Certainly not the Flying Turns the Forest Park Highlands in St. Louis had. It only had one chain lifted hill and the rest was all the wooden trough shapes to the bottom. Probably is a good idea since it takes a rather extended route which gives you more for the money.
Historical and fun.
It took seven years to build this???!!!!! Damn.
When I went on with my mom and we got on the wood part with no trail I screamed "THIS IS SO SATISFYING" and then it became quiet >:3
Riding this in July
Was Just on it yesterday. awesome
It finally opened! :D
Just rode this this yesterday! Lol 😂
I even went on this xD I can't even explain how fun this was
I know
OK thanks but can you ask EastCoasterGeneral to return to the park one day to film this coaster with his handheld camera and an HD POV of the Twister and the Black Diamond? Please respond.
I went on this yesterday its definitely awesome!!!! The hour wait though lol its kinda worth it....
Is it fun and worth waiting for? I went to knobels on Saturday and I wanted to try it but the line was of course longggg is it worth the wait for I know for next time I go? 😊
I'd say it's worth the wait. It's a one of a kind ride, nothing like anything else out there so you have nothing to compare it to basically. It doesn't go very fast but it doesn't have to, it really throws you around some of the turns but it's very smooth and has it's own kind of thrill. Next time you go, try and go during the week and get there when the parks opens and go straight for Flying Turns. You won't have much of a wait then.
I really wanna try this ride.
Hey Coasterforce, two questions i need to ask you. First, did EastCoasterGeneral film an on-ride video of this coaster with his handheld camera? If he did, can you ask him to post it to this channel? Second, I would like it if you make a playlist for Toverland, but you don't have to.
Please respond to both questions.
On 1:10 it looks like there could hardly fit a hand between the car and the railing :O
ok thats freaking cool i would ride this just to see wat the bloomin hell it was
this is one of the oddest roller coasters Ive ever seen
I have senn both "Flying turns" and "Bobsled rollercoaster" use on this type of ride. Are they the same thing or is there a difference?
This may be a hard question to answer but what roller coasters do you guys think is your favorite
have you gone on impulse at knoebels yet I went on it yesterday (when it opened) it is sooooo fun omg it's amazing please make a video of it 💫 thanks bye✌️
An off track coaster. Cool
That's sick
think you for your movie , i have a question. if think the speed is to high is it confortable ? because in france in parc asterix trace du hourra its not very confortable and shaky :) think you man
That is cool.
But Mike Boodley, a former GCI employee, did help with the construction.
This does get going nicely after Lift Hill #2; however, I've ridden La Vibora @ SFOT and that is a more intense ride.
Going in July 😃😃😃
making these in RCT freaks me out.
I remember the bobled coaster from Six Flags Great Adventure.
Hey CF, you guys have a POV of Phoenix, right?
wow
I always hated the line on this... hopefully when I go tomorrow I'll be the first one in line!
It is really fun and the line moves very quick
yeah the line took like 45 minutes to get through
Not worth the wait, this ride sucks, it's a joke.
Quick Q; what do the gauges say on the car?
I went on this ride, the wait was over an hour long v.v
THIS RIDE COULD GO WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS HELL NO I AINT GETING ON THAT!!!
This is a poor imitation of the former Riverview Park, Chicago, Flying Turns which was alongside the Bobs roller coaster, one of the best ever. Does anyone know why Riverview Park was demolished?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverview_Park_(Chicago).The former grounds are now home to Riverview Plaza shopping center, the Belmont District Police Station, DeVry University, a manufacturing company and Richard Clark Park, part of the Chicago Park District. The south end of Clark Park has a wooded area where many of the Riverview Park foundations are still visible and is currently used as a bicycle dirt jump and pump track park maintained by the Chicago Area Mountain Bikers. A sculpture entitled Riverview by local artist Jerry Peart stands in front of the police station.
D J W you suck
I love this ride but it is very short and the line for it is always really long
It’s literally a wooden version of avalanche at Blackpool pleasure beach
It is the first rollercoaster 2 not use tracks during the ride.
Nice
Seems like it's very short...
It is short but that's due to limited space. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Knoebels but they used to have a steel coaster in this spot called the Whirlwind which they tore down in 2004. Believe it or not, the Whirlwind was probably 2/3 the length of Flying Turns! It was a smaller coaster with a curved drop, two corkscrews and two banked curves and that was it. lol. They built a flat ride called the Looper in part of the area where the Whirlwind stood which made space more limited for Flying Turns. It's a good ride though, definitely one of a kind. Just ride it more than once if the line isn't too long!
Whirlwind was just a boring Vekoma Mk-1200 that they sold to a park in Costa Rica. Flying Turns is a much better fit for the park even if it's not the most exciting ride in the world. I don't think the Looper's location was an issue really, it's a carnival flat ride that's easy to relocate.
I thought you were going to flip over at some parts
Everytime I go to knoebels I never ride this other then the one time I did......the wait is usually around 2 to 3 hours long
Yeah the lines have definitely came down for the newer rides. Like impulse basically has no lines ever and this ones lines are probably about 30 ish minutes
Euclid Beach original hit a whopping 16 mph, but seemed like 80 when you're a kid- This one looks slower than that in this video- I guess going from 0 to 122 mph in a quarter mile would do that to ya'...
Every year I look to see if itnis open and they are still working on it
Its been open for a few months.Check out their page on FB.
It's open! I rode it and it's a lot of fun! Very different from anything else out there so you really can't compare it to anything. If you haven't gotten to Knoebels yet this year you should go and ride it. Go on a week day though so it isn't as crowded and you won't have to wait nearly as long. My suggestion is get there when the park opens and go straight to the line until they finish testing it. That way you'll have almost no wait.
mhtube01 I really hope to ride it someday.I was at the park in Sept of 2011.My hubby isn't really interested in going back.He did enjoy riding the Phoenix.
On this ride there are many things that could go wrong and on top of that it looks beat down but l would so ride it!
Beat down? It will turn 6 years old at the end of the 2019 season.
Weired question but is this build by gci?
Homemade.
I know they love authenticity ,but 7 years for a slow unexciting ride ????
Timothy Toos bc they need to make it so they follow the rules and they need to make it safe, trust me it’s worth it lol
Lot for not much.Well, it's pretty.
Why am I here? I was just looking for butterfly turns
Don't go skiing, snowboarding, surfing, in the ocean, skateboarding, or driving either.
Didn't they close this?
What the hell, no it's safe no accident has happened on it I bet you there will be none on this ride
loool, i always tought this coastertype is fictional , only know it from rct3 :D
whoa
It opened?
October 2013. It won the Golden Ticket Award for Best New Ride 2014.
Do you guys use a helmet cam?
No
Oh wow! how do you hold on to the Camera?
chrissy12341 They used a mounted GoPro, I believe.
xRGTMx That makes sense i didn't think of that!
Its safe...just thank god they got there own wood or would of never got finished
With all due respect, 8 years for this is just utterly absurd!
But it is significant. It's the only one of its kind in the world.
Thank you
Tommy Carr That is true, but as good and unique as this is, 8 years is still ridiculous!
7 of them were getting good cars.
XxRavenwing19xX So that equals to less than 1 car a year, wow, incredible...
I Go To This Park But I Havent Went On This Ride Quite Yet. although From My House In Delawhere It Takes A Shorter Time To Get To Dutch Wonderland. Unfortunatly My Brother Wants To Go To Knoebles Instead of Dutch Wonderland. Also Dutch Wonderland Copied Most Rides At Knoebles Which Makes Me A Bit Anxious.
Please do not capitalize the first letter of every word; it makes you look like a rube.
im sorry but this ride just doesn't look ride
Looks like a wooden version of avalanche