BDK is for experienced players. They have to control the rollercoaster of their health pool. The starting out is the roughest part, but once you get going its bar far the best tank. Build up that blood shield. (also saw that your bones went to zero - thats a no no); also please for the love dont take bonestorm unless people know what they are doing - it takes ALL your bones and people wonder why they die. Healers now will watch the runic power even more - used to be 35, now its more of a half bar as it takes 2 DS to heal to full. DK has the same problem as it does live - it cant heal the damage. Guardian is easy and a safe pick for beginners. Ursoc is absorbing a bit much (like S2 DF) if it stays this way then it will be Meta as the heals, rez, mark of wild, utility is really good. Brew has always been this way with stagger, dont know why its all the sudden top tank. I play it the same as Ive done for years. The double Celestial Brew is a great welcome. The top complaint is healers wanted to dps, as a brew tank healers have to pay attention as rot damage takes some health away constantly. Honorable mention should be VDH. it offers more than warrior and I love warrior.
Agreed with almost all of this, VDH after the buffs definitely an honorable mention especially with Chaos brand. Ursocs actually feels really bad right now in the beta, 25% damage becomes a shield and we dont do enough damage to make that shield valuable since we got 60% more health. If i raze on a pack in a +4 key i dont even see a shield generate. And that's only a 4. I'm gonna try out more Druid of the claw next stream but it hasn't felt great. Difference in brew on the beta, not live because live doesnt have the tank nerfs, Is theres a lot more spiky incoming damage, opposite of what they were intending, and brew feels like what they were actually intending to do. High sustained incoming damage. Everything can change in an instant, but arcane bear feels like the best currently with the changes getting reverted
@@Susanoo_WoW I like how as explorer's they probably had an edge in ending in Pandaria and learning the way of the monks. Also, sailing and sailors go so well with wind and brew themes.
I think these top three can be interchangable in 99% of content, but in that 1% I heard a decent amount of people put bear first. I've also always said if VDH gets a lil buff we could see it again simply for chaos brand and the fact they still have the most stops
Great video, man. Looking forward to watching more of your stuff. I don't find Brew nearly as fun to play as other tanks and was hoping to main one of the other 3 options - but honestly could just be playing it wrong - so will definitely also be hopping into some streams.
I've seen a lot of people talking about Arcane bear being a meta pick. Most videos/streamers I've watched since I posted this have a very similar tier list to me (usually rotating the position of these 3) but I think Bear has been edging out monk on some. So try Arcane bear as well. I thought it was really fun to play too so I'm happy that we've got options
Brew does feel good on beta. How do you feel it fits into a possible meta? I'm thinking we're more likely looking at bear the way it's looking right now. Plenty of time for changes though.
Bear feels really good, I wouldnt be surprised to see it in meta comps. Lunar beam scaling with big pulls would probably help it fit. Honestly it looks like the meta is still Aug, Mage, Spriest/Lock so VDH's Chaos Brand has so much value that even though theyre not in a good spot we might see people push it
I'll play bDK no matter what. I cant wait to test the nerf, i didn't like them at all tbh, but at the end of the day, bDK is just what i love in a game.
From what i've seen, bDk is on the top when it comes to what it can do. But its on top of how skill cap it is as well. So its a high risk, high reward class. And i like it.
@@piofernandes6498 Yeah agreed I think i mentioned in the video that if your really good with it you can rank it higher but average players or new tank players might suffer a bit on it. Definitely a high risk high reward class and can be really strong.
Brew felt better on prepatch than blood with 30 item level less .. ill have to see. Im still really pissed about vengeance being 6 foot under the groud, they ruined the funniest spec ive ever played by reworking it instead of balancing it
No knock on your video, but I am so confused because every youtube ranking tanks seems to rank Guardian different, some say its top 3 (like you) while some rank it in the bottom two and highlight a lot of the issues. I am trying to decide which tank I want to main in TWW and its difficult to tell which is good and which your going to struggle on.
I've seen more people rank bear high than rank it low. I think the 3 i talked about are all safe picks, VDH will prob get play because the meta for dps isnt changing and chaos brand is big for that, prot warrior is solid but healer reliant so if you have a good healer they're not a bad pick, great pick when spell reflect can be utilized. Only tank i think people will really struggle to play is Prot pally. But anything else can probably do 10s
Good video, BUT that fact that you didnt used Dance Runic Weapon once while saying you can use it non stop mad me cry xD Literally the first packs of the video x) CLICK IT HOMIE
It was probably something like this CgGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmxMzYYmZZMzYmBmZYWsAYGjxMzMRzMzMzMjZB2AAAAAAAAzMgltZ2wY2GATBAAA2wMD But I have some questions about how good moonless night is with thrash being arcane so you can probably run incarn instead. Not having the CD reduction kinda sucks but it's whatever. I've even seen people drop Rage of the sleeper and run blood frenzy but I like rage even after the nerfs. Still a lot to be tested
Im a bit confused about the arcane bear lumar beam statement, as all guides that were released today suggest playing raze instead of lunar beam. Is that something that will rather change with hero talents being released in a month?
Most likely. Raze is really bad on the beta. It was bad at 45% damage deal generated the shield and they nerfed it to 25% of the damage you deal. You don't do enough damage with raze in comparison to how much health you have to generate a valuable shield. Kinda the same issue prot pally has with word of glory. Elunes choose suffers a bit from it, but you have much more going into it that jus raze damage
@@Susanoo_WoW I see. Thanks for the response. Im definitely gonna try it. Didnt plays beta much so far. Sadly we are pretty out of content now for a month
Short answer is yes, unfortunately. I loved prot pally in Dragonflight. I've played it in dungeons and if you rotate every cd consistently you can survive, but WoG feels like it doesnt do much at all unless your about to die then it gets its 250% increase. Its been at the bottom since beta launched and they nerfed it with all the other tanks
ehh. i quit my blood dk today when the pre-patch hit. i am not a fan of being weak and being nerfed. i did the same in diablo 4. they nerfed barbarians and all classes after the original launch of the game, and I uninstalled when they took away 8% of my cooldown reduction f*ck blizzard for being scumbags and nerfing tanks when they did NOT need nerfed RIP my 528ilvl Blood DK with 3.1k M+ score, I loved playing you, but our time together is over. blizzard are scumbags
I respect that. I think the nerf wasn't really needed for tanks, Their goal is good their game design to reach that goal is bad. I'm hoping they balance dungeons a bit more to compensate for those nerfs
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BDK is for experienced players. They have to control the rollercoaster of their health pool. The starting out is the roughest part, but once you get going its bar far the best tank. Build up that blood shield. (also saw that your bones went to zero - thats a no no); also please for the love dont take bonestorm unless people know what they are doing - it takes ALL your bones and people wonder why they die. Healers now will watch the runic power even more - used to be 35, now its more of a half bar as it takes 2 DS to heal to full. DK has the same problem as it does live - it cant heal the damage.
Guardian is easy and a safe pick for beginners. Ursoc is absorbing a bit much (like S2 DF) if it stays this way then it will be Meta as the heals, rez, mark of wild, utility is really good.
Brew has always been this way with stagger, dont know why its all the sudden top tank. I play it the same as Ive done for years. The double Celestial Brew is a great welcome. The top complaint is healers wanted to dps, as a brew tank healers have to pay attention as rot damage takes some health away constantly.
Honorable mention should be VDH. it offers more than warrior and I love warrior.
Agreed with almost all of this, VDH after the buffs definitely an honorable mention especially with Chaos brand.
Ursocs actually feels really bad right now in the beta, 25% damage becomes a shield and we dont do enough damage to make that shield valuable since we got 60% more health. If i raze on a pack in a +4 key i dont even see a shield generate. And that's only a 4. I'm gonna try out more Druid of the claw next stream but it hasn't felt great.
Difference in brew on the beta, not live because live doesnt have the tank nerfs, Is theres a lot more spiky incoming damage, opposite of what they were intending, and brew feels like what they were actually intending to do. High sustained incoming damage.
Everything can change in an instant, but arcane bear feels like the best currently with the changes getting reverted
All that being said. Every tank can do 10s on the beta.
i dont like BDK because he gets like instant down in the high keys, its good for mid keys and pubs
@@DubElementMusic Yeah man, F*** BDK in this exp. Blizz killed it for me.
Kul Tiran Monk? Based!! You've earned a sub and upvote.
Hell yeah! I think he looks like me so I had to rock the kul tiran lol
@@Susanoo_WoW I like how as explorer's they probably had an edge in ending in Pandaria and learning the way of the monks. Also, sailing and sailors go so well with wind and brew themes.
I wanna see a proper tier list next!
Great vid, maybe bump up the audio a little bit though
Appreciate that! I’ll make sure it’s a little higher next video 👍
Hey man, great content! Makes sense, although the meta choice can be different. What are your predictions as far as the meta tank?
I think these top three can be interchangable in 99% of content, but in that 1% I heard a decent amount of people put bear first. I've also always said if VDH gets a lil buff we could see it again simply for chaos brand and the fact they still have the most stops
Great video, man. Looking forward to watching more of your stuff.
I don't find Brew nearly as fun to play as other tanks and was hoping to main one of the other 3 options - but honestly could just be playing it wrong - so will definitely also be hopping into some streams.
I've seen a lot of people talking about Arcane bear being a meta pick. Most videos/streamers I've watched since I posted this have a very similar tier list to me (usually rotating the position of these 3) but I think Bear has been edging out monk on some. So try Arcane bear as well. I thought it was really fun to play too so I'm happy that we've got options
Brew does feel good on beta.
How do you feel it fits into a possible meta? I'm thinking we're more likely looking at bear the way it's looking right now. Plenty of time for changes though.
Bear feels really good, I wouldnt be surprised to see it in meta comps. Lunar beam scaling with big pulls would probably help it fit. Honestly it looks like the meta is still Aug, Mage, Spriest/Lock so VDH's Chaos Brand has so much value that even though theyre not in a good spot we might see people push it
great video lad.
I'll play bDK no matter what. I cant wait to test the nerf, i didn't like them at all tbh, but at the end of the day, bDK is just what i love in a game.
From what i've seen, bDk is on the top when it comes to what it can do. But its on top of how skill cap it is as well. So its a high risk, high reward class. And i like it.
Amen brother and that's 100% what you should be playing. If you play something you hate you'll play it worse than one you love.
@@piofernandes6498 Yeah agreed I think i mentioned in the video that if your really good with it you can rank it higher but average players or new tank players might suffer a bit on it. Definitely a high risk high reward class and can be really strong.
Brew felt better on prepatch than blood with 30 item level less .. ill have to see.
Im still really pissed about vengeance being 6 foot under the groud, they ruined the funniest spec ive ever played by reworking it instead of balancing it
Brewmaster looks like the new Blood Dk hp ping pong😅😂😂😂😂😂
And thats with like 50% being staggered lol I think Dorki or Dratnos said Brew is like the old blood in one of their podcast too lol
No knock on your video, but I am so confused because every youtube ranking tanks seems to rank Guardian different, some say its top 3 (like you) while some rank it in the bottom two and highlight a lot of the issues. I am trying to decide which tank I want to main in TWW and its difficult to tell which is good and which your going to struggle on.
I've seen more people rank bear high than rank it low. I think the 3 i talked about are all safe picks, VDH will prob get play because the meta for dps isnt changing and chaos brand is big for that, prot warrior is solid but healer reliant so if you have a good healer they're not a bad pick, great pick when spell reflect can be utilized. Only tank i think people will really struggle to play is Prot pally. But anything else can probably do 10s
Good video!
Good video, BUT that fact that you didnt used Dance Runic Weapon once while saying you can use it non stop mad me cry xD Literally the first packs of the video x) CLICK IT HOMIE
lmao yeah that was like 10 min after patch went live. I didn't even have bonestorm at the time. Fully expected that first pack to be chill lol
Whats that bonesheilds weak aura ?
It's this one, wago.io/KjXWZnYTc
Well M8 the pre patch don't bring new nerf soon this list isn't walid
What do you mean "the pre patch dont bring new nerf soon"??
Whats the build up were running for bear with no incarn
It was probably something like this CgGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmxMzYYmZZMzYmBmZYWsAYGjxMzMRzMzMzMjZB2AAAAAAAAzMgltZ2wY2GATBAAA2wMD
But I have some questions about how good moonless night is with thrash being arcane so you can probably run incarn instead. Not having the CD reduction kinda sucks but it's whatever. I've even seen people drop Rage of the sleeper and run blood frenzy but I like rage even after the nerfs. Still a lot to be tested
Im a bit confused about the arcane bear lumar beam statement, as all guides that were released today suggest playing raze instead of lunar beam. Is that something that will rather change with hero talents being released in a month?
Most likely. Raze is really bad on the beta. It was bad at 45% damage deal generated the shield and they nerfed it to 25% of the damage you deal. You don't do enough damage with raze in comparison to how much health you have to generate a valuable shield. Kinda the same issue prot pally has with word of glory. Elunes choose suffers a bit from it, but you have much more going into it that jus raze damage
@@Susanoo_WoW I see. Thanks for the response. Im definitely gonna try it. Didnt plays beta much so far. Sadly we are pretty out of content now for a month
@@jacko646697 Yeah I'll still be playing around on the beta until launch, then we got like a week or 2 weeks until M+ which I don't mind really
brew 1 ye good joke. :)
is pala that bad?
Short answer is yes, unfortunately. I loved prot pally in Dragonflight. I've played it in dungeons and if you rotate every cd consistently you can survive, but WoG feels like it doesnt do much at all unless your about to die then it gets its 250% increase. Its been at the bottom since beta launched and they nerfed it with all the other tanks
@@Susanoo_WoW hopeing to fix then..i would like to play as main tank for raid purpose mainly
bump
ehh. i quit my blood dk today when the pre-patch hit. i am not a fan of being weak and being nerfed.
i did the same in diablo 4. they nerfed barbarians and all classes after the original launch of the game, and I uninstalled when they took away 8% of my cooldown reduction
f*ck blizzard for being scumbags and nerfing tanks when they did NOT need nerfed
RIP my 528ilvl Blood DK with 3.1k M+ score, I loved playing you, but our time together is over. blizzard are scumbags
I respect that. I think the nerf wasn't really needed for tanks, Their goal is good their game design to reach that goal is bad. I'm hoping they balance dungeons a bit more to compensate for those nerfs
Played BDK today and honestly thought they still felt pretty good.
Bro what you smoking maybe actually look at some tgp guys list. Monk in high keys lul
What tank has felt the best for you on beta?
Vdh 100%@@Susanoo_WoW
🫡 If the meta stays the way it looks with aug, mage, and some other caster they'll prob get play regardless of how good they are so not a bad pick
best race for brewmaster ? :)
I think the best race in general for TWW is going to be dwarves for stoneform