It is👌😍 my former bikes is - trek emonda, scott foil 10, winspaace t1500 and bianchi oltre xr4. This Tavelo feels better and it is soo fast.@@PatrickLino
Great question! Feels as fast as the T1500. However, the riding dynamics are far more composed and balanced than the T1500. Both frames are bulletproof but the Tavelo Arow is far more refined. Similar to a premium brand.
Wait what, are you saying the handlebar is longer than the usual way of measurring it? So from mid point stem to front? Seems like a very crucial detail, thanks for pointing out!
@@andreasbengaard3066 I wouldn't say unfortunate. Every single integrated cockpit I've ever measured was under-measured by at least 10-15mm. Just order a smaller size.
I was thinking about buying an aero bike like this or a Winspace. For me the Winspace ranks higher as it can be a bit lower in price AND has a glued in threaded bb. I decided to buy an Allez sprint instead because I think with that frame I will be less likely to have annoyances related to the frameset, bottom bracket, etc.
@@PatrickLino I have just checked, size XS and small are more aggressive on the Attack. Size medium is the same and a large is more aggressive in the Arrow. lol
Frame sizing across all brands is pretty arbitrary now. It's best to use a site like Geometry Geeks to compare a future frame geometry to your current bike. That's what I did.
They made too many bad design decisions. The bottom bracket being BB86 and the D shaped steerers are bad / limiting ideas. These days persons are going threaded as far as BB. Recall an aynasis by Hambini where he esentially warned persons away from D shaped steerers. Would consider a BB86 for a franneset of 1K or less, not one that's close to 2K
Pressfit BB86/BB386 EVO paired with Shimano Hollow-Tech 24 spindle are my two favorite setups. Super straight forward to install/remove too. No creaks. BSA is also a solid choice. But T-47 is my least favorite BB standard.
@@PatrickLino That dude doesnt know what he's talkng about, BB86 with shimano crank spindles are perfectly reliable, concerns arise when coupling BB86 with sram crank spindles because of smaller ball bearing specifications. I currently use SRAM crank spindles with BB86 with zero problems.
@@lee1210mk2 This is another prime example of internet sensationalization versus real world practicality. I know that sounds ironic to say as a RUclipsr. BB86 is fantastic. I prefer it to all other standards besides maybe BSA. I dislike T47. DUB bottom brackets with BB68 run just fine with no creaking, and I can typically get around 4-5000mi before servicing.
My man!
@@valiantabello Thank you for your continued valued support!
The black and white Tavelo looks awesome. Thanks for your time and the videos. Sending all my best wishes and keep pushing.
That means so much Jordi, thank you! Have a great weekend.
Have had mine for 3 months now. Very happy with it. The build wasn’t to bad, but that expander plug has to be updated I swear 😂😂😂
The only upside to that design is the plug doesn't slip even with only 4-5nm of torque. But removing it is a nightmare. 😭
Looks nice.
Nice one Patrick looks good, always like your album reviews too
Thank you! I really should make a separate video on my vinyl collection.
Great video and review, especially of details on assembly. Well done!
Thanks Matthew!
Thanks, as always
Thanks for watching!
When it comes to modern day bikes it makes me happy that I still have a standard seat clamp...
Nice!
Will be nice to see Time frame on your channel
Would love to test all brands currently on the market. Sadly Time Bikes aren't popular around these parts. Perhaps they can send me a demo next year.
I have also the tavelo arow. But with Sram red and dub bb. With drive 65D wheels. It is a fantastic bike. Best bike i have own.
Sounds like a freakin fast setup
It is👌😍 my former bikes is - trek emonda, scott foil 10, winspaace t1500 and bianchi oltre xr4. This Tavelo feels better and it is soo fast.@@PatrickLino
Tarmac SL8 has the DI2 rear mech cable in the same place... Under the drive side chainstay.
@@Jdjjjfje-c2n correct. I also have an SL8 😂
Great choice of rug
I'll inform the wife.
I was waiting and ending up with Winspace C5. Glad I got the Winspace there's been a few reports of Tavelo having not so good quality.
Thanks for watching!
China Cycling dropped a review today on this Quick Pro frameset. Dumb light. I need you to get one n review asap cuz!!!
Budget is TAPPED until probably 2026 😭
@PatrickLino Talk to your connect. Make it happen! I have faith in you.
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on this how this frame performs! You have any thoughts on how this compares to the winspace t1550?
Great question! Feels as fast as the T1500. However, the riding dynamics are far more composed and balanced than the T1500. Both frames are bulletproof but the Tavelo Arow is far more refined. Similar to a premium brand.
@PatrickLino great notes! I love the styling of winspace and eyeing the t1550 Version2. But you've got me looking at tavelo now too
When the try on road of this frame will be ready ?
The big pulley back derailleur what brand is it ?? Thanks in advance...
The first ride video is on my channel. Subscribe ❤
@PatrickLino thsnks...found it !!
About my second question please ??
@@PatrickLino can you let me know how tall are you and the inseam...to have a xlearer idea about frames you riding ! Thanks again
Hi! Are the seat posts from Tavelo Arow and Attack interchangeable? On the site they do not sell one with set back for the arow.
@@CyclingMD-pw5ok yup 👍🏾
Nice, how much does it weight fully built?
Not heavy. Not light.
Wait what, are you saying the handlebar is longer than the usual way of measurring it? So from mid point stem to front? Seems like a very crucial detail, thanks for pointing out!
Yup! From the stem top cap bolt to the center point on the tops is about 145mm. 15mm more than the advertised 130 😭
@@PatrickLino just wanna confirm that it is indeed 15mm longer than advertised, a bit unfortunate.
@@andreasbengaard3066 I wouldn't say unfortunate. Every single integrated cockpit I've ever measured was under-measured by at least 10-15mm. Just order a smaller size.
Does the Arow frame come without a seat post dust cap? Or did you forget to put it on when comparing bikes?
Didn’t come with one. Maybe they forgot
I was thinking about buying an aero bike like this or a Winspace. For me the Winspace ranks higher as it can be a bit lower in price AND has a glued in threaded bb. I decided to buy an Allez sprint instead because I think with that frame I will be less likely to have annoyances related to the frameset, bottom bracket, etc.
I love my Allez Sprint. Plenty of videos on it here on my channel
Off memory, the smaller size in the Attack has a more aggressive geometry than the Arrow.
Let me investigate…
@@PatrickLino I have just checked, size XS and small are more aggressive on the Attack. Size medium is the same and a large is more aggressive in the Arrow. lol
@@ResearchFirst-z7j "Well there it is." - Jeff Goldblum
looks like a tarmac sl7 had a baby with a canyon aeroroad
more like with a Giant Propel haha
@@PatrickLinoyup. This looks like a Propel. Similar to the previous Seka Exceed looking like the previous Factor Ostro.
@@ariffau The side by side frame comparisons are really telling...
@@PatrickLinoyup!!
It has got a bud sniffer
I'm curious how you measure the length of the stem.
Stem cap bolt to the center of the tops.
still 170mm crank sir?
Fully converted all my road bikes to 170. Filming the next Tavelo video as I type this.
Do you find that the 54 is similar fit/feel to your 56 bikes?
Frame sizing across all brands is pretty arbitrary now. It's best to use a site like Geometry Geeks to compare a future frame geometry to your current bike. That's what I did.
how are your impressions of winspace t1500?
www.youtube.com/@PatrickLino/search?query=T1500
Solid review. Saw you a couple times now on the LSD trail. I’ll say hi next time. No diddy 😏
@@JoeyCarbone_1 NO DIDDY 😂😂
360/130!! Thats all out aero bro!
Low is pro. Narrow is aerooo!
how is the one piece handlebar
Flippin fantastic
@ daaaaamn
Tavelo head tube similar with giant propel,may i know giant propel weight with farsports evo wheelset
Probably around 7.3kg
@ what size?hope next for your tavelo arrow video
@@nizamzainalabidin9962 What is it you are trying to understand?
@14:54 Q: How many bikes do you currently own?
A: Not enough?
Now, where's my lotion💦
AYE YO hahahaha
Wait till the tariffs hit if you think $2000 is expensive for this frame..
More reason to purchase sooner than later. ❤️
They made too many bad design decisions. The bottom bracket being BB86 and the D shaped steerers are bad / limiting ideas. These days persons are going threaded as far as BB. Recall an aynasis by Hambini where he esentially warned persons away from D shaped steerers. Would consider a BB86 for a franneset of 1K or less, not one that's close to 2K
Pressfit BB86/BB386 EVO paired with Shimano Hollow-Tech 24 spindle are my two favorite setups. Super straight forward to install/remove too. No creaks. BSA is also a solid choice. But T-47 is my least favorite BB standard.
@@PatrickLino That dude doesnt know what he's talkng about, BB86 with shimano crank spindles are perfectly reliable, concerns arise when coupling BB86 with sram crank spindles because of smaller ball bearing specifications. I currently use SRAM crank spindles with BB86 with zero problems.
@@lee1210mk2 This is another prime example of internet sensationalization versus real world practicality. I know that sounds ironic to say as a RUclipsr. BB86 is fantastic. I prefer it to all other standards besides maybe BSA. I dislike T47. DUB bottom brackets with BB68 run just fine with no creaking, and I can typically get around 4-5000mi before servicing.
@@PatrickLino Indeed my bro, I also prefer press fit over threaded all day. Great video btw 💪🏼💪🏼
@@lee1210mk2 Yep 29,800km so far on my BB86 with 24mm spindle and still spins fine. Never a creak, never an issue :)