the brown stains tell the story, that's overheated + seized, towed back to a garage, coolant sorted + new oil + filter, towed back into life, then part-exed into your mates garage hard to bleed, yeah, that's a hint to what happened last time...
Had one (in a Panda) and it blew the head gasket at 60K. That seems to be their weakness - too much pressure in the cooling system and one day it goes bang. Mechanically will go on for ever...so I know that's only a test case of one, but overheating due to loss of coolant is a good way to seize an engine!
Thanks for sharing Alan , many years ago we had a Panda with similar issues to this. The coolant level dropped a couple of times & the following morning it was dragging like this . like you we went for a lower miles replacement. Out of idle curiosity I kept stipping it until the problem revealed itself. As soon as I unbolted the oil pump the engine reovolved smoothly again. I stripped the oil pump & it was full of metal fragmemts & looking down into the sump it was obvious that water was present in the oil ; not much but enough to kill off the oil pump 🙄
@@marinusapeldoorn6631 I assumed it was either a cracked cylinder head or leaking head gasket ; the milage was reasonably high around 180k . If anyone on here is from the south, I`ve recently heard my favourite breaker GR Harris in southbourne is ceasing trading
Nice job Alan 👍 I had one of those Ka's.. I had to take front bumper off to replace suspension arm, to get to the bolt. Brilliant little cars they are. Would be interesting tonknow what's gone wrong with it 🤔
I brought a saxo years ago with the same problem been sat took the fan belt off and it was a seized alternator with the fan belt off it turned over fine
There is nothing wrong with the 1.2VVT Fiat Fire engine they are just lacking of owner maintenance they can clear if looked after properly as they are very simple 250,000 miles. if you should require a more simple engine get a 1.1 Panda with the none interference engine 👍
These engine are actually surprisingly rebost. Coolant system is exactly the same on the mk2 punto, utter nightmare to bleed. By the time the Grande Punto was launched bleeding was much easier, but the 500 and Ka took a step backwards to the mk2 punto coolant system design. Top tip is to raise the front of the car which helps the bleeding process a lot. Give the car a few long runs with heater on full, bleed again and keep topping up coolant as there will be more air pockets trapped.
I had to use a four pint milk bottle with the bottom cut off, some a electric tape to make it fit to the top of the coolant tank. To give me enough height in the water to bleed it on an audi A6 after i did a cambelt.
Had similar issue with a Fiat Idea . Fully charged battery with jump pack would not turn over . Turned out alternator was seized solid been laid up for few months.
Slow cranking - Fiats in this era are notorious for bad earth straps/negatively battery cables, it goes from negative terminal to chassis and towards the gearbox, and just break. Not the case here of course, just reminded me of this. Oh and it's easy to test it - jumper cable from negative terminal to engine... Cheaper than a new battery or starter
Bad engine grounds causing electrical problems can easily be identified with the same trick, some old school ingenuity trumps a scan tool every so often.
That engine had been overheated and seized, rusty water stains tell the tale. With the problems you were getting with the bleeding did you check the radiator flow which may have been the cause of the original overheating and might cause reoccurrence.
i would check all your vacuum and turbo hoses are secure and not leaking, could also be a weak solenoid next to your fuel filter where all the vacuum hoses are connected
The only good thing about these fire engines is they are a Non-interference engine if the belt ever snaps,replaced loads on the side of the road over the years lol ,nice one fella 👍
hi ya mate can i ask if you had to do anything for the correct mileage of the replacement engine to show?. going down the same road bought one with a shagged motor picked one up complete with box and everything ecu etc question is will it need coding ? and you have gained a new subscriber.
thanks mate i will look forward to your new uploads I'm always buying and selling old motors myself some thing that stuck from been a 15 year old lad now nearly 50 and still at it kerbside motors lol @@alan4x
Im really surprised you didnt cut the alternator belt... and try turning the engine...I've had so many of these on my pitch with exactly the same symptoms... when they stand especially in the cold damp weather the alternators seize solid...and the fact the engine turns easier one way that the other also suggests this fault as the alternaters have a clutch on them.....
Friend of mine has a 14 plate , coolant pipe went dumped it all out , stopped right away , rac put a metal pipe on aparantky and it ok at mo. Why is it so many emgines now are nit as good , is like those eco booms terrible keep failing.
I had a customer have one with failed engine on 70thousand miles. It was knocking first. It was due mot and told her it was not worth repairing so she traded it in for Renault.
Slightly concerning as I’ve got a Fiat 500, someone I work with had similar though put a new starter on and same problem in the end it turned out the camshaft had snapped.
Looks very espensive . My brother bought a 2014 KA - one owner full history from a dealer for £3500. Not Titanium but that is pointless on a car like that. Worth £1500 at best.
Mini's are known to be trouble and this one is getting on in years.. I predict (especially with it being winter) that there will be issues with it shortly. Let's see how it goes. The Parts are BMW Expensive too. PS: Is the young lady from Ukraine?
i think these fiat fire engines are non interference so if belt brakes no problems at leat the older ones were. good old engine just bit head trouble .
It’s not the cars fault it’s been badly maintained is it ? You could say that about any car if a coolant pipe bursts on your car and you fire down the motorway for long enough yours will cook and seize also
aint you gone yet..??.. theres a room here in aus waiting for you..thing is,,were going the same way as u.k.. & people cant see it,, too blazzy about everything..
@@harrywalker968 um, if you had WATCHED. And LISTENED To the video you will know that the engine was swapped AND Alan commented that it took a LONG TIME to bleed the cooling system, you may not be aware, but when bleeding the " bleedin system" coolant very often overflows from the expansion tank...🤪🤪🤪
we got ''ford'', ka,s in aus.. bit like mini,s chevy,holden cruises,, ka ka,, . our ''holden cruise, is a korean flat pack, re bagded.. 1.4 turbo,, gutless piece of ka ka ..
why is there a mini cooper S front bumper, standard cooper front wings (NO S) and john cooper works back bumper with no S Badge and a single tailpipe instead of a JWC centre twin exhaust???? Seems like a Stinker To Me
The latest minis literally have virtually unclipping engines gearboxes clutches etc. with almost self lowering hydraulic chassis legs. I’ve seen how easily a mobile clutch technician changed a clutch on one. Surely a 1985 engine design will have terrible emissions?
By all the water staining all over the engine looks like it was cooked multiple times and run with no coolant for years the last service was probably too little too late
The EU Commission is working on new regulations according to which a car that had an engine swapped will be treated as scrap and it won't be allowed to use such car. Too bad, especially seeing that there is still so much life in a car after an engine swap.
Just fill the radiator to the top of the cap , run and bleed the engine from the vent in the hose, when no air comes out suck the excess out from the expansion part of the radiator to the correct level, Easy no big issue. Those engines are solid and easy to work on.
Alan it’s crap car made by Fiat even lights got the Fiat logo so Ford Company give up with the Fiat 500 corporation, I had Ka in 2010, 15k mls and suspension gone bow wishbones gone, you need take the bumper to change! Crazy it was big mistake by Ford ! 7:53 sign the contract with Fiat ! I glad is finish !
The FIRE engines have a small oil capacity, and some oil consumption tendencies... Once the oil level is low enough it's a steep curve towards engine failure. Check the oil level and it's a great, robust engine otherwise.
IM SORRY I STILL LOVE THE OLD MINI SORRY MONICA JUST SOME THING THAT SAYS NOT BRITISH AND I DONT LIKE THE STYLE OF IT MY NIECE HAS ONE ITS AN 08 AND NO I STILL LIKE THE OLD ONE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS NOT MINE ITS MONI CAR SORRY AND I KNOW THERE BE SOME MORONS OUT THERE BUT WHEN YOU GREW UP ROUND THOSE SORT OF CARS AND DROVE THOSE SORT OF CARS THEN YOU WOULD UNDER STAND
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the brown stains tell the story, that's overheated + seized, towed back to a garage, coolant sorted + new oil + filter, towed back into life, then part-exed into your mates garage
hard to bleed, yeah, that's a hint to what happened last time...
That's what they need - a good cynic to see through the crap. I'm sure you are correct .
my sentiments exactly,, exactly what i said.. you think, the buyer, would of seen the stains, then abstained from buying it.. ausie..
yeah, 44yrs in the trade does this to you...@@Finglesham
10/10 at last someone seen it
Absolutely agree it overheated. Did anyone cop the nearly new thermostat? 🤔😉 It was the cleanest part of the whole lot
That engine is pretty good to be honest usually reliable and started right up very good engine they were a bit low on power but easy to work on
Had one (in a Panda) and it blew the head gasket at 60K. That seems to be their weakness - too much pressure in the cooling system and one day it goes bang. Mechanically will go on for ever...so I know that's only a test case of one, but overheating due to loss of coolant is a good way to seize an engine!
Great job Allan.A pity you can't carry out your usual post mortem to the damaged engine lol.
Great job Monika and Alan, funky little car👌👍🙏🙂
Another great video and I like the way Monika says “I love it!”……she was referring to her car of course!!
Im glad you tried to turn it over at the end, I was thinking one of the auxiliary's were seized 🤔 brilliant video Alan I'm going to miss them 😢😢
Great content, great result 👍
Another great job from Mr mondingo Man 👍🏻
Verry nice repair Alan!! love to work on such cars, no EGR,DPF,Dualclutch 😂😂
Great video Alan.
Hi Alan I’ve been following you for ages it looks weird in that yard without any Red mondeos 🤣🤣🔧🔧🚗🚗 I’m also a fellow mechanic love the channel 🔧🔧🚗🚗👍
Thanks for sharing Alan , many years ago we had a Panda with similar issues to this.
The coolant level dropped a couple of times & the following morning it was dragging like this . like you we went for a lower miles replacement.
Out of idle curiosity I kept stipping it until the problem revealed itself.
As soon as I unbolted the oil pump the engine reovolved smoothly again. I stripped the oil pump & it was full of metal fragmemts & looking down into the sump it was obvious that water was present in the oil ; not much but enough to kill off the oil pump 🙄
Ever found out where the water came from?
@@marinusapeldoorn6631 I assumed it was either a cracked cylinder head or leaking head gasket ; the milage was reasonably high around 180k .
If anyone on here is from the south, I`ve recently heard my favourite breaker GR Harris in southbourne is ceasing trading
nice one alan great job
good upload love them mini's
I didn't think we was getting anymore videos
I thought you had gone.
Hi Alan good to see you! Old Noah was well ahead of the game hehe. Cheers Nigel
We had one that the apprentice had put the head gasket on the wrong way round and it covered the main feed up to the camshaft .
Nice job Alan 👍 I had one of those Ka's.. I had to take front bumper off to replace suspension arm, to get to the bolt. Brilliant little cars they are. Would be interesting tonknow what's gone wrong with it 🤔
It would be interesting to find out what caused the problem can you not just take the sump off to see if they are going to scrap it
Sump off! Sump off! Sump off!
He mentioned the company that supplied the new engine wanted the old as an exchange so couldn’t strip it down.
Monnie in a Mini...looks sweet!
I brought a saxo years ago with the same problem been sat took the fan belt off and it was a seized alternator with the fan belt off it turned over fine
My brothers Panda with the 1.2 is heading to 150k without a head gasket failure used every day, still drives ok, better than you may think.
have you not got a vacuum filler for the coolant? could be a good thing to invest in to make bleeding the coolant easier great video btw!
I think, Alan, that the idea was to pronounce the name Ka as 'Car'. At least I read that somewhere sometime long ago. 😊
Waiting for old engine teardown 😉
We never had heated seats in milk vans when it was minus 13 in 82/83😂😂
There is nothing wrong with the 1.2VVT Fiat Fire engine they are just lacking of owner maintenance they can clear if looked after properly as they are very simple 250,000 miles. if you should require a more simple engine get a 1.1 Panda with the none interference engine 👍
Yes it is a good motor. Easy to work on and fix. Lack of maintenance probably.
There is a bleed screw in rad as well Alan Hope you fitted a new serpentine belt as well?
I prefer driving this over my Kuga! So much fun, reminds me of my first mini but safer and more luxurious 😎
they drive very well, the handling is also absolutely nuts.
How much for an engine swap these days? My diesel may have some rod knock sadly
Alan. Do tell us why the MK2 still looks new 13 year old KA took a dump. I deal with this 1242cc engine loads in 500’s and KA’a and the like.
Had oil change then stood for a while ? New oil reacted with old oil ? I would drop the sump and check it out.
These engine are actually surprisingly rebost. Coolant system is exactly the same on the mk2 punto, utter nightmare to bleed. By the time the Grande Punto was launched bleeding was much easier, but the 500 and Ka took a step backwards to the mk2 punto coolant system design.
Top tip is to raise the front of the car which helps the bleeding process a lot.
Give the car a few long runs with heater on full, bleed again and keep topping up coolant as there will be more air pockets trapped.
Loads of cars benefit from a rise of the business end during cooling bleeding. Good tip
I had to use a four pint milk bottle with the bottom cut off, some a electric tape to make it fit to the top of the coolant tank. To give me enough height in the water to bleed it on an audi A6 after i did a cambelt.
You must have had to disconnect the air con condenser did you not?
Alan it sounds simple but your turning the engine over with the aux belt still on! Alternator/A/C compressor?
Had similar issue with a Fiat Idea . Fully charged battery with jump pack would not turn over . Turned out alternator was seized solid been laid up for few months.
That Duratec label on the airbox 😅
I had a punto with a seized engine took it out to discover the alternator had seized ....engine was fine!!!!
Slow cranking - Fiats in this era are notorious for bad earth straps/negatively battery cables, it goes from negative terminal to chassis and towards the gearbox, and just break. Not the case here of course, just reminded me of this. Oh and it's easy to test it - jumper cable from negative terminal to engine... Cheaper than a new battery or starter
Bad engine grounds causing electrical problems can easily be identified with the same trick, some old school ingenuity trumps a scan tool every so often.
The reason why the MK2 Ka has a Fiat engine in it is purely because the KA is just a Fiat 500 in a different dress.
That engine had been overheated and seized, rusty water stains tell the tale. With the problems you were getting with the bleeding did you check the radiator flow which may have been the cause of the original overheating and might cause reoccurrence.
10/10 at last someone seen it
Mine did this was a seized alternator?
I had a fiat panda and it was a reel pain to bleed the coolant
Have you checked the alternator isn’t seized ? I’ve seen this a few times?
theres coolant stains on the ex cover,, its been cooked..
Did you try turning it over with the serpentine belt removed, could be a sized alternator or such like...
It was still FT at the end of the video, with no aux belt in place. Look at 18:31.
Seen it, commented while watching
Any chance you can point me in the right direction for a P02FA fault on a MK5 mondo please? 😊
i would check all your vacuum and turbo hoses are secure and not leaking, could also be a weak solenoid next to your fuel filter where all the vacuum hoses are connected
The only good thing about these fire engines is they are a Non-interference engine if the belt ever snaps,replaced loads on the side of the road over the years lol ,nice one fella 👍
Not all of them, depends on the emissions standard, newer ones are interference to my knowledge
hi ya mate can i ask if you had to do anything for the correct mileage of the replacement engine to show?. going down the same road bought one with a shagged motor picked one up complete with box and everything ecu etc question is will it need coding ? and you have gained a new subscriber.
hi, you can just fit the new engine and it should all work but you will need to use your original ecu which is coded to your car
thanks mate i will look forward to your new uploads I'm always buying and selling old motors myself some thing that stuck from been a 15 year old lad now nearly 50 and still at it kerbside motors lol @@alan4x
You could do the same with a city bug if the bonnet slam panel was removable!
4 grand for a 2010 ford ka with 100k miles.. Crazy!!
I tried to make my Austin mini bonnet slam removable but the bonnet popped open at about 60 mph and broke the windscreen - you live and 😂😂😂
Definitely alternater. Had it a few times on Puntos
Monica should be careful when using zebra crossings in that outfit 😂
Im really surprised you didnt cut the alternator belt... and try turning the engine...I've had so many of these on my pitch with exactly the same symptoms... when they stand especially in the cold damp weather the alternators seize solid...and the fact the engine turns easier one way that the other also suggests this fault as the alternaters have a clutch on them.....
Sure the early ka ones had the Kent engine from the mk2
The twin air Fiat 500 has a conventional coolant header tank bottle.
Friend of mine has a 14 plate , coolant pipe went dumped it all out , stopped right away , rac put a metal pipe on aparantky and it ok at mo. Why is it so many emgines now are nit as good , is like those eco booms terrible keep failing.
Older Fix It Again Tony FIRE engines were bulletproof.
My 1.2 Pandas engine is different to that , same year though .
We don't care about cam belts and broken engines, were here for Moni
I had a customer have one with failed engine on 70thousand miles. It was knocking first. It was due mot and told her it was not worth repairing so she traded it in for Renault.
Looks like its boiled over??
the engine is abled Duratec. I never thought it was a FIRE engine!🤔🤔
Is that rusty shitwater on the engine the coolant? If so, might the water pump be locked up?
Coolant never changed… rust inside engine… blew its top eventually…
theres a no spill rad filler kit you can get. the coolant is the same color as the crap on the old engine,, wander why,,,?...
Slightly concerning as I’ve got a Fiat 500, someone I work with had similar though put a new starter on and same problem in the end it turned out the camshaft had snapped.
Is it petrol or diesel?
Petrol
fiat Uno engine ?
Wouldn’t it been easier to remove the aux belt 1st before removing the engine just in case it was a seized alternator etc
Should have cleaned and sprayed the rusty rear subframe !
Those jpw minis sound like a bag of nails when you are in them. As if the exhaust is blown.
Looks very espensive . My brother bought a 2014 KA - one owner full history from a dealer for £3500. Not Titanium but that is pointless on a car like that. Worth £1500 at best.
£1500 would get you an absolute dog to be honest.
PCSO's love Ford Ka's as they can overtake them on their pedal bikes and force them to stop
if tKA got the twin air agines, it would be such a better car
Twin air engines are absolutely wank I’ve changed both pistons on one of them engines at 10k miles and yes it was regular serviced
Mini's are known to be trouble and this one is getting on in years.. I predict (especially with it being winter) that there will be issues with it shortly.
Let's see how it goes. The Parts are BMW Expensive too.
PS: Is the young lady from Ukraine?
yesum.. watch more shows.. mini,s , cruises, land rover, voxhall,, stay well away.. ausie..
Poland I think
i think these fiat fire engines are non interference so if belt brakes no problems at leat the older ones were. good old engine just bit head trouble .
almost talking the daughter into buying one of these,, feel ,I dodged a bullet
It’s not the cars fault it’s been badly maintained is it ? You could say that about any car if a coolant pipe bursts on your car and you fire down the motorway for long enough yours will cook and seize also
aint you gone yet..??.. theres a room here in aus waiting for you..thing is,,were going the same way as u.k.. & people cant see it,, too blazzy about everything..
The VALETERS didn't pressure wash under the bonnet and hydrolock it did they Alan and pushed it back when no one was about ????
didnt pressure wash it,, still has coolant over heat stains..
@@harrywalker968 um, if you had WATCHED. And LISTENED To the video you will know that the engine was swapped AND Alan commented that it took a LONG TIME to bleed the cooling system, you may not be aware, but when bleeding the " bleedin system" coolant very often overflows from the expansion tank...🤪🤪🤪
we got ''ford'', ka,s in aus.. bit like mini,s chevy,holden cruises,, ka ka,, . our ''holden cruise, is a korean flat pack, re bagded.. 1.4 turbo,, gutless piece of ka ka ..
it hasn't got water in the bores has it .
why is there a mini cooper S front bumper, standard cooper front wings (NO S) and john cooper works back bumper with no S Badge and a single tailpipe instead of a JWC centre twin exhaust???? Seems like a Stinker To Me
also no JWC steering wheel 🙃
Looks like the engine has been cooked at some point, judging by the rusty water stains.
The latest minis literally have virtually unclipping engines gearboxes clutches etc. with almost self lowering hydraulic chassis legs. I’ve seen how easily a mobile clutch technician changed a clutch on one. Surely a 1985 engine design will have terrible emissions?
Good engines tho from fiat
By all the water staining all over the engine looks like it was cooked multiple times and run with no coolant for years the last service was probably too little too late
Think the engine has been roasted by over heating probably no water
The EU Commission is working on new regulations according to which a car that had an engine swapped will be treated as scrap and it won't be allowed to use such car. Too bad, especially seeing that there is still so much life in a car after an engine swap.
Can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear…
Wasn’t that the engine that was fitted to The UNO? If so it’s shite
Yep just modernised,goes back to early 80s I think if my memory serves me correctly.
Just fill the radiator to the top of the cap , run and bleed the engine from the vent in the hose, when no air comes out suck the excess out from the expansion part of the radiator to the correct level, Easy no big issue. Those engines are solid and easy to work on.
So shite it’s still going… yeah right.
Fiat “fix it again tomorrow”
Alan it’s crap car made by Fiat even lights got the Fiat logo so Ford Company give up with the Fiat 500 corporation,
I had Ka in 2010, 15k mls and suspension gone bow wishbones gone, you need take the bumper to change! Crazy it was big mistake by Ford ! 7:53 sign the contract with Fiat ! I glad is finish !
buy mazda, ford tought them how to build cars, now there better than ford..
Think I pdi that car
The FIRE engines have a small oil capacity, and some oil consumption tendencies... Once the oil level is low enough it's a steep curve towards engine failure. Check the oil level and it's a great, robust engine otherwise.
IM SORRY I STILL LOVE THE OLD MINI SORRY MONICA JUST SOME THING THAT SAYS NOT BRITISH AND I DONT LIKE THE STYLE OF IT MY NIECE HAS ONE ITS AN 08 AND NO I STILL LIKE THE OLD ONE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS NOT MINE ITS MONI CAR SORRY AND I KNOW THERE BE SOME MORONS OUT THERE BUT WHEN YOU GREW UP ROUND THOSE SORT OF CARS AND DROVE THOSE SORT OF CARS THEN YOU WOULD UNDER STAND
ARE YOU 8 YEARS OLD? IT CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE IT
KA is a Fiat 500 well i never.
????... 15k, ausie dollar,, got to be fkn mad.. buy a damn good commodore for that. v8..
And who owns Ferrari?
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