You know what would be fucked up? Mike coming to work is what breaks Ralph from the loop and the night 4 phone call is him actually talking with you (night 5's phone call makes that weird sound because he's not there so it's just capturing random noises from the afterlife)
I really love this theory. Another thing I though that could help support it is Ralph's reaction when he listens to his own recordings. It allways takes him a second to realise his listening to his own voice, as if he didn't even remember what he sounds (or sounded) like, and took hik a bit to remember each time
I really like this theory, not only because it fits what we know about ghosts in the fnaf universe (and how they remain in a loop not knowing they're dead), but also suggests the minigames in fnaf are the result of either agony or remnant and so they actually happen on an arcade in the game's world. Either way banger theory, keep it up.
Thank you! I am really proud of this one! This book has a lot to talk about and I think this might have been a big thing but definitely not everything.
This is such a good and unique theory !! It provides an explanation for the rerun being the canon ending other than "well its just meta". Maybe Bronwen possessed her mobile phone since it was a nearby piece of metal (either intentionally to call Ralph or because the suit she was stuffed into was already taken). In the same vein, Ralph possesses the FNAF 1 phone to give us our calls. It would explain why he is present as a literal phone in UCN.
Thank you! I had kind of assumed Bronwen joins the golden freddy hive mind but her possessing the phone makes sense too! I do hope that it at least means that Ralph gets to move on and live with copellia forever
i think the other piece of evidence that cinches this theory for me is how ralph's relationship with the animatronics is described at the end (nights 5 and 6). if ralph leaves, they hunt him down. almost as if to say that he can never escape. which is a very common theme we see with some major spirits/characters in this franchise. plus, ralph knows (and notably feels bad for them) that the animatronics want to escape. this can very easily be read as the spirits within wanting to pass on. in this light, we can see their hunting ralph down as a form of jealousy (which i think he even mentions at some point)
That's also a really good point! It could be why none of the spirits can ever pass on. If one even gets the chance to move on, the others get jealous and stop them somehow. Could possibly give more context to Happiest day and why it didn't work.
I think it’s safe to say that this is the best explanation for The Week Before whereas making a lot of sense in the first place, i really hope rye toast and Matt Patt notice this and take this into consideration. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us I’m convinced that this is right.
phone guy/ralph used to get scared by his dad when he jumped out if spots like closets shouting boo just before pg/ralph found him (page 91) which is really similar to mike bullying cc
I really like this theory! When I first heard that Ralph had memory issues I heard it theorized that it was more like a Help Wanted (the story about the game dev) or sound illusion disk or hallucinatory gas situation. But I think it makes more sense that it’s more like an Alone Together/ghost/FNAF world situation.
It always stood out to me as weird that ralph always starts his VOICE RECORDED MESSAGES with "hello? Hello? Heeelloooo?" And sounding frustrated when doing so? Like dude, its a voice recording, theres nobody there, why are you saying hello, and moreso why are you getting frustrated when you dont get an answer, but him reaching out to the real world via the phone makes a lot of sense, either that or his crappy memory is eluding to... OH MY GOD HE'S THE BITE OF '87 VICTIM! He says "its amazing how the human body can survive without the frontal lobe" so even if he is dead that line still applies because he thinks hes alive! But maybe he isnt and he's just healing from a frontal lobe injury and losing his memories only able to remember that he loves fazbear's and thats why he sounds frustrated in the calls, he thinks hes calling someone, then he remembered its a recording
i never heard any frustration in that. sounds more like he's testing the mic/making sure it's recording. he doesn't say anything along the lines of "are you there" "can you hear me" etc. he starts the message with "hello, hello hello! I wanted to record a message for you..." and then the rest of the line u get it idk maybe take another listen to it. like he knows it's a recording he literally states that
(Idk where my original comment went so I’m gonna restate what I said there) Your theory that Ralph’s story parallels the CC’s story reminded me of an idea I came up with. I also believe the CC is stuck in a memory loop, however I don’t think it’s FNAF WORLD. I believe we are Cassidy in FNAF World setting up the FNAF 3 minigames to help the CC remember their past. I believe the Crying Child is actually stuck in the FNAF 4 minigames. I came to this conclusion as it was the only way I could think of to explain the broken mangle, the tiny toy Chica, the Balloon Boy kid, and the other things that tied the FNAF 4 minigames (and the CC) to the FNAF 3 minigames. Those items weren’t there when these memories originally happened, but now that the CC is broken and his memories are stuck between the other MCI kids he’s seeing stuff from future locations. As I was thinking about it more I realized we can see the loop happen in game! During the last minigame (Night 6 cutscene) we see all the plushies fade into the darkness and eventually also the CC leaving us on a black screen. However something interesting I just realized is that the first minigame cutscene, that appears before the first in game night starts in a black void with our Fredbear plush!
This is a lot to take in at once but wow that sounds like a really solid theory! This does break some of my headcanons but that might be a good thing. Just to be clear, this would mean that th 8 bit minigames in fnaf 4 is CCs time loop and not the night sections correct?
I would really like that but I'd literally die from excitement if any theorist I watch saw my videos. It happened once with stormister, and I've been coasting on that high since lol
@@TerminalError I hope this theory gets all the attention it deserves, it's amazing About Dave, makes sense, and wouldn't be the first time an Afton uses a dead relative's name lol
I think the canon ending must be the browen light ending, not only because it allows us to get the night 4 call, but because if the animatronics kill Ralph in night 4, the should be escaping by night 6, contradicting what we see in fnaf 1, because the animatronics are in the place still by the time of that games.
The night 4 call can't be recorded until Ralph gets the bonus item. The book forces the player to get the item on night 6 and then replay the book with the bonus item in order to leave the message. I do agree that the Canon ending is most likely the one where we get the bonus item from Bronwen, but in order to leave the message, Ralph would have to leave it after he's already died making at least those 2 endings canon.
Y'know I have a theory that I just made today that maybe Henry went on to possess Mr. Hippo because remember the stories he had from Ultimate custom night. Well one of em was talking about dead birds Which I pressume is code for The missing children maybe Orville was a representation of Henry when he figured out William murdered kids because the story Mr. hippo remarks is him explaining that the birds are dead to Orville maybe this could be how Henry found out William's secret....
finally someone's mentioned phone guy's death after all these years... it seemed as tho everyone has forgotten about it and ignored it's potential significance to the lore
I like this interpretation, because otherwise the answer is that the inconsistences are due to poor writing. In other written FNAF material, the idea of writing errors due to miscommunication between the IP originator (Scott) and the actual author of the story makes some sense (people who write for established franchises are not necessarily actual fans of said series and so may not have a full understanding of all the complexities of that world/setting they are writing for), since the books are meant to sort of act as an "expanded universe" or "alternate continuity" from the games. But clearly, from the start, this project was always framed as directly tied to FNAF1 and not a "retelling" or alt-version; so the idea of there being poor writing errors as an explanation didn't sit well with me. I think Scott wants to allow for his writers to have a lot of creative freedom / wiggle room, but for something so closely associated with his own work (the first six games) that just didn't seem likely.
I also dont like the theory that its just bad writing since that argument could be used anywhere to debunk a theory. I have seen 1 theory that made the inconsistent writing just be an error sound compelling (Not saying it's right, just saying i did really like it). They brought up how the reader should never actually get to a specific page in the book since the item the book says to use is never given to us (and it's not the master key thing I talked about in the video). I think the channel was The Withered Truth
I'm just thinking that the phone that we get the call from Ralph every night is actually possessed with his remnant and has you explain with your theory every times the books send Ralph back to the beginning of the book but with something alter every time as if the book is demonstrating us the reader how a trap soul in a object feels like.
Forgive me if what I'm saying is incomprehensible as I am running on no sleep I think there's something there with the cheater ending poem, as we're reading the book from Ralph's PoV but he knows nothing about the MCI, let alone William Afton, but the poem says the "purple man" something we've only ever actually heard in FNaF World, cus Purple Guy was always a fan name and its consistent wirh how children end up remembering their murder in the series, it's not "Bonnie" and always "the yellow rabbit" I may come back to this wirh sleep and try to make more sense
Honestly I think that already makes a lot of sense. If Ralph is in a videogame due to his death, then he'll get a lot of videogame references and one of the bigger in game videogames is fnaf world. It's also interesting that Ralph calls golden freddy "golden freddy" Since that is also a name used in games and by the community.
Banger video, I think you got it. At the end you said you wanted to leave some further work for bigger theorists but frankly your channel is the right size and you are the right host to do that. The cowboy character was fun too, it would be cute to see more side characters like that, but don't get too plot heavy with it.
Lmao I'm glad you liked the cowboy! The call out to other theorists was more of a way to get their eyes and ideas about what they think about it since (in my eyes at least) no one theorist can get it all. Whether it's because they don't get all the details or there's a better solution out there. Plus everyone was talking about the fnaf 1 date again which is not as important imo. Like if we're off by a year or 2, as long as big events remain in the same order, that's all the matters
Another detail that seem to go in the same direction is in the first FANF movie. The initial night guard gets killed in the torture device which might work a bit like a remnant extractor, hinting at the idea of him staying around as a ghost.
1:03 -Except that this may be a mislead. Since it is a choose your own adventure with different endings and conflicting information, I'm going to say some MAY be cannon but not all is. How is this the case? Well, its in world. Yeah. I think it is tied to the games in our world but in that this is a book by Fazbear in the game world about the games they made to revive Freddie's. In the FNAF world a version of the FNAF games were made to cover the true events and rebound from them. I believe all the Fazbear Frights books were compendiums made by Fazbear to do this, including 'Into the pit" which acts as a companion piece to the game of the same name. I think the recently released "into the pit game is a game within the game world and "the week before" is just a book also in the game world. It makes sense to muddle the r ality of what happened by marketing it as an urban legend with a plethora of slightly varying events to the real ones bing offered as well entertainment. One of the paths or pieces of multiples in the book could reveal actual info about the phone guy but I dont feel it's as strait forward as it all being cannon. They never do that in Freddy's and I think it's up to us to realize that while speculating what Fazbear is giving or lying to us about.
this is my new game theory p.s. loved the video, theory makes sense, it was logically and clearly presented, and it kept me entertained rather than becoming convoluted and boring like a lot of channels well done!
So videogames in FNAF are what the ghosts are experiencing? This makes a ton of sense and makes the franchise a million times better. Really smart of you to figure this out! You, sir, just earned a subscriber
Ralph's forgetful memory makes him an untrustworthy narrator, which means most things that this book presents from his recollection can be retconned in an instant, which means theorising on any of it is useless until further, more stable evidence rises. Meanwhile, Ralph being stuck in an endless loop in purgatory means that, technically, nothing the character experiences is real and fake at the same time. Then again, Ralph could simply be forgetting how he really died, meaning the ending where he died after defeating the animatronics' evil scheme could simply be non-canon to the games as well, because Ralph "replayed" his actual death wrongly and didn't get to record the messages before Golden Freddy got to him.
Hats off to the fit, only thing you're missing is a crackle filter and a crisp transatlantic accent Also agreed with all your takes on it, I really can't wait to see what people pick up from the book with time to really pick it over and give it thought, by far the most lore significant drop of the last several years (even moreso than Security Breach, actually(
I think this theory is really compelling but personally when I read the book I interpreted Ralph's memory problems as a disassociative disorder (or something similar)
Hey I'd like your opinion on the plushies seen in fnaf 4 minigames inside the crying child room. Why is foxy headless? I always assumed that it was because Mike was wearing it somehow as a mask, but seeing as the other bullys have their own mask, i dont really think that can be the case, especially since people are connecting the help wanted 2 protag to the bully from a mask that we see is clearly plastic. If Scott wanted us to pay attention to the fact the toy chica toy seen in the game is missing its beak, then im sure theres some deeper meaning into the plush missing its head
I honestly haven't thought of the foxy plush in awhile. But you bring up a good point because I always assumed Mike made his mask from the plush as well. My original assumption was because foxy was the newest character he didn't have all the same merch the others do (he'd obviously have some like the plush but wouldn't yet get a mask for whatever reason) But after thinking about it for a bit, we know from fnaf world that the afterlife has an effect on the real world and vise versa, so what if CC just had a broken foxy for whatever reason, and somehow he is forcing foxy to always be broken. Similar to how all the toy animatronics have the same problems that the actual toys have. No idea why foxy is missing his head though or why the foxy animatronic isn't missing a head.
I don’t think I agree with this theory, but it is very interesting! I think he just has a phone in the canon ending, and the memory issues just mean something else. It seems implied that the building has something that makes you forget, pertaining to the reason the guards keep coming back.
Tbh, while reading, I thought the memory loss was just the way they were going to avoid mentioning specific events during the night since most nights have at least 2 ways to win. But I do think at the beginning of the book, Ralph mentions how other night guards say what they go through during the night implying they remember but Ralph doesn't.
I think that it’s worth mentioning the connection of living/dying in a loop and Golden Freddy. William Afton was the exact same way in UCN (although granted, he was killed by Henry’s fire), where GF was present in that loop of living and dying over and over again, whereas Ralph was directly killed by him. If we take the lore hints from the other books into account, the FazFrights story “The man in room 1280” has a similar premise, where the stand-in for UCN’s Vengeful Spirit has lost their memory, but still latches onto the titular man’s psyche for some reason, before learning the man was the one who killed them. If we were to apply that to The Week Before, it could be one of two things: either A) GF’s spirit (who we’ll call David) learns that Ralph knows about the animatronic’s plans to escape and death loops him to prevent that secret from getting out, or B) GF lost enough memory as a spirit to believe that (much like early FNAF theorists believed) Ralph is the one who killed the animatronics, not William Afton.
That's actually such a good interpretation??? Honestly this is just canon in my mind now, Ralph called Mike from his limbo space (and possibly moved on right after)
Perhaps there is a connection to old man consequences. If we take this video as fact then Ralph is has been falling through variations of his own life/world so much so that a parts of him are too scattered to fully remember.
I can see that, especially since the last line in the "canon" ending where he records the night 4 call is "All your choices have led you here, and now you're out of options. The only thing you can do is wait." the literal definition of consequences.
I could see it happening, especially when the "canon" ending in the book ends with a weird ominous line that says something like "all your choices have led to this" which is pretty much the definition of consequences. I might have just talked myself into thinking this lol
I like how you delved into this weird inconsistency. There are a few things mentioned I find odd or disagree with: * You mentioned how Bronwen calls from beyond the dead. Good! But then you use her knowing Jeremy as evidence... okay, sure... but then Ralph brings up Susie. Well he's already dead right? Well maybe, maybe not. You can get this scene without the bonus item so it doesn't support your theory at all. It doesn't counter it exactly but my point is that you can get this scene before the needed death for the true end. This is unlike the "SAVETHEM" text which you ONLY get after having the bonus item. * You mention Copellia not being brought to Freddy's being contradicted in the book. The Unwithered Truth made a great video [The Week Before Solved FNAF 1's Timeline... And Everyone Missed It (Theory)] that points out that page 44 may be an error in its entirety (or an early draft). The main reason being how that page is accessed being contradicted later (via the ticket) I hope I didn't come out too harsh. I still like this idea in concept and the way you presented it.
I've seen that video, and really liked it; I also agree with the 1989 date (although the Disneyland tagline might be a counterpoint). In the case of this theory, which Perseid Labs also had (along with Ralph possibly being the Bite of '87 victim), I think it's plausible in the case of you having to play New Game + to get the FNaF 1 ending at all.
@@flickyfkosstitcher8547 Oh yes, for sure. I still like this theory and it's still plausible. The fact Ralph HAS to die to recors the canon phone calls speaks volumes really ^_^ I'll have to check out Perseid Labs' video next!
what's funny is that phone guy dies in part one, but he was the security guy in part two which was a prequel. two happened before one. which is weird because the first game check clearly said 1987, and part 2 was years later.
Or the canon explanation on why Ralph's memory is so bad and the possibility of him having to die is that its the Dayshift at Freddy's canon where Fazbear Entertainment manufacturers Phone Guy's for each Freddy's establishment it also explains his loyalty... wait hold up why does this actually work.
@lunabruce1804 Not necessarily according to DSAF lore Phone guys are manufactured out of previously alive spring locked employees, which also explains why he doesn't remember Fredbears or the year the company started.
I'll admit, Im a bit lost by this theory. Is the golden freddy ending where you get the bonus phone meant to be how he canonically dies? feels a bit strange. wouldnt it make more sense and be less convoluted if the real ending was Phone Guy reliving the events that led to his death rather than him leaving post-mortal messages? The Golden Freddy ending where he gets the phone would be part of the loop, with Golden Freddy basically confronting Ralph and forcing him to acknowledge the continuity of his deaths by keeping an item from later in the game and bringing it to the start. Effectively clearing a mental block that's been preventing him from accurately retracing the steps of his final week.
I saw it more like Ralph lives through the ending where he gets the phone and then dies leading to him reliving the books events with the phone until he leaves the phone call but it would also make sense if something was blocking him from using the phone until golden freddy steps in, especially since the other endings are obtainable without the phone.
So the phone guy, is LITERALLY the phone guy? A spirit trapped inside the phone we hear, just as for the spirits trapped in the animatronics until he can find his peace and escape to heaven?
You are undoubtedly,in other embodiment of talent but what if after phone guy died on night 4 of fnaf1 he was stuffed into golden Freddy?after all phone guy did say the animatronics will try to stuff you into a Freddy suit and plus we hear golden Freddy’s scream on the phone before phone guy dies!!!❤️💖💖❤️💖💛
I Like this theory, how is this theory.. Security Breach is Michael Aftons after life, he is Freddy and Gregory. He has more than one POV. It's the only reason for HIS ROOM to exist in the Pizza palace building.. his room being there is un-realistic. Although the distence from this 'room' and to the pizza place is about the same distance as C.C. walking on the day he got bit.. it was right around the corner. I would love to measure that out to see if you have to leave his room go south. East. then north to get to the sinkhole. This building might have been built right on top of the ruins of the old pizza place from the mini-games, then that was remade into pizza simulator then RIGHT ON TOP of that the Pizza Plex.
Like the theory but a little confused. My brain insists that if Ralph has to die stopping the animatronics in night 6, then there must be a week between Ralph and MC working the night shift 😅 but if I'm reading this right, the Bronwyn phone ending happens, MC starts the next week, and Ralph spiritually makes the calls as MC works? How does his night 4 death work then? Is the aftermath of that achieving his happiest day?
"set before" doesn't mean Canon. Only means that the book takes Place before the Canon game, but if the book itself Is Canon it's an entirely different matter
I made it seventeen seconds after it released let’s go this will be interesting (also edit like hours after whatching this I forgot to say I think this theory is nice and I’m sure lots of others would agree
At 5:46 or roughly around that mark, you talk about how to get to the cannon ending, Ralph has to die. Yes, that is nothing special as the same logic applies to every other time that he dies in the interactive novel. It was just the correct path to get the final piece where Ralph now knows the number (the special item I believe was the 4 digits for the phone last I checked) as was the correct series of choices for nights 1-4 to get to the night where he does to unlock said special item. Just want to point that out. Not a great piece of evidence.
Holy crap it just hit me that Ralph’s crappy memory is in line with “The dead do forget”
Fnaf at Freddy’s
@@DrunkenRooferFive Nights at Freddy's... at Freddy's?
@@AlienRino yes
He do be forgetting a lot
LOVE the idea of Ralph being stuck on a loop, it makes so much sense
That's what I thought too! Especially since we know which ending needs to take place, why give us multiple endings unless it means something!
You know what would be fucked up?
Mike coming to work is what breaks Ralph from the loop and the night 4 phone call is him actually talking with you
(night 5's phone call makes that weird sound because he's not there so it's just capturing random noises from the afterlife)
I really love this theory. Another thing I though that could help support it is Ralph's reaction when he listens to his own recordings. It allways takes him a second to realise his listening to his own voice, as if he didn't even remember what he sounds (or sounded) like, and took hik a bit to remember each time
Good point! On a similar note, Ralph also has recordings that nobody should have. Mainly the bite of 83 recording.
I really like this theory, not only because it fits what we know about ghosts in the fnaf universe (and how they remain in a loop not knowing they're dead), but also suggests the minigames in fnaf are the result of either agony or remnant and so they actually happen on an arcade in the game's world.
Either way banger theory, keep it up.
TRUEE, I love this idea
Thank you! I am really proud of this one! This book has a lot to talk about and I think this might have been a big thing but definitely not everything.
This is such a good and unique theory !! It provides an explanation for the rerun being the canon ending other than "well its just meta". Maybe Bronwen possessed her mobile phone since it was a nearby piece of metal (either intentionally to call Ralph or because the suit she was stuffed into was already taken). In the same vein, Ralph possesses the FNAF 1 phone to give us our calls. It would explain why he is present as a literal phone in UCN.
Thank you! I had kind of assumed Bronwen joins the golden freddy hive mind but her possessing the phone makes sense too! I do hope that it at least means that Ralph gets to move on and live with copellia forever
i think the other piece of evidence that cinches this theory for me is how ralph's relationship with the animatronics is described at the end (nights 5 and 6).
if ralph leaves, they hunt him down. almost as if to say that he can never escape. which is a very common theme we see with some major spirits/characters in this franchise.
plus, ralph knows (and notably feels bad for them) that the animatronics want to escape. this can very easily be read as the spirits within wanting to pass on. in this light, we can see their hunting ralph down as a form of jealousy (which i think he even mentions at some point)
That's also a really good point! It could be why none of the spirits can ever pass on. If one even gets the chance to move on, the others get jealous and stop them somehow. Could possibly give more context to Happiest day and why it didn't work.
@@TerminalErrorit’s like crabs in a bucket
I think it’s safe to say that this is the best explanation for The Week Before whereas making a lot of sense in the first place, i really hope rye toast and Matt Patt notice this and take this into consideration. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us I’m convinced that this is right.
Thank you! Honestly if they noticed me I would probably die from excitement/nervousness
Why hello there old sport......
Hello Dave!
an i thought i was the only one making a DSAF reference
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phone guy/ralph used to get scared by his dad when he jumped out if spots like closets shouting boo just before pg/ralph found him (page 91)
which is really similar to mike bullying cc
I completely forgot about that! I knew there would be more connections between those 2!
I really like this theory! When I first heard that Ralph had memory issues I heard it theorized that it was more like a Help Wanted (the story about the game dev) or sound illusion disk or hallucinatory gas situation. But I think it makes more sense that it’s more like an Alone Together/ghost/FNAF world situation.
Thank you! I saw a lot of other theories too, and I'm glad I was the first to say it (I hope lol, dont wanna steal someone elses thunder)
Bro this theory video looks SICK!! Another Banger after all your a pro at this!! Always will still love the theories u make!! 😊
Thanks EnderCraft! Really hope you enjoy this one!
It always stood out to me as weird that ralph always starts his VOICE RECORDED MESSAGES with "hello? Hello? Heeelloooo?" And sounding frustrated when doing so? Like dude, its a voice recording, theres nobody there, why are you saying hello, and moreso why are you getting frustrated when you dont get an answer, but him reaching out to the real world via the phone makes a lot of sense, either that or his crappy memory is eluding to... OH MY GOD HE'S THE BITE OF '87 VICTIM! He says "its amazing how the human body can survive without the frontal lobe" so even if he is dead that line still applies because he thinks hes alive! But maybe he isnt and he's just healing from a frontal lobe injury and losing his memories only able to remember that he loves fazbear's and thats why he sounds frustrated in the calls, he thinks hes calling someone, then he remembered its a recording
i never heard any frustration in that. sounds more like he's testing the mic/making sure it's recording. he doesn't say anything along the lines of "are you there" "can you hear me" etc.
he starts the message with
"hello, hello hello! I wanted to record a message for you..." and then the rest of the line u get it
idk maybe take another listen to it. like he knows it's a recording he literally states that
(Idk where my original comment went so I’m gonna restate what I said there)
Your theory that Ralph’s story parallels the CC’s story reminded me of an idea I came up with. I also believe the CC is stuck in a memory loop, however I don’t think it’s FNAF WORLD. I believe we are Cassidy in FNAF World setting up the FNAF 3 minigames to help the CC remember their past. I believe the Crying Child is actually stuck in the FNAF 4 minigames.
I came to this conclusion as it was the only way I could think of to explain the broken mangle, the tiny toy Chica, the Balloon Boy kid, and the other things that tied the FNAF 4 minigames (and the CC) to the FNAF 3 minigames. Those items weren’t there when these memories originally happened, but now that the CC is broken and his memories are stuck between the other MCI kids he’s seeing stuff from future locations. As I was thinking about it more I realized we can see the loop happen in game! During the last minigame (Night 6 cutscene) we see all the plushies fade into the darkness and eventually also the CC leaving us on a black screen. However something interesting I just realized is that the first minigame cutscene, that appears before the first in game night starts in a black void with our Fredbear plush!
That's fucking good. You should tell this to Gibby from the horror Homestead.
This is a lot to take in at once but wow that sounds like a really solid theory! This does break some of my headcanons but that might be a good thing.
Just to be clear, this would mean that th 8 bit minigames in fnaf 4 is CCs time loop and not the night sections correct?
This is the BEST explanation for the book, the problems in it, the inconsistency, every single detail
I hope rye reacts to it
Could Dave simply be CC?
I would really like that but I'd literally die from excitement if any theorist I watch saw my videos. It happened once with stormister, and I've been coasting on that high since lol
I dont think the Dave in this book is CC but I do think CCs name is Dave. The Dave in this book is most likely William imo
@@TerminalError I hope this theory gets all the attention it deserves, it's amazing
About Dave, makes sense, and wouldn't be the first time an Afton uses a dead relative's name lol
I think the canon ending must be the browen light ending, not only because it allows us to get the night 4 call, but because if the animatronics kill Ralph in night 4, the should be escaping by night 6, contradicting what we see in fnaf 1, because the animatronics are in the place still by the time of that games.
Maybe their plan of overcharging didnt work, and they had to go back to keep charged? Just a thought
The animatronics kill Ralph night 5/6 because in the book it states he didn’t leave a phone call for night 4 for the guy that replaces him
The night 4 call can't be recorded until Ralph gets the bonus item. The book forces the player to get the item on night 6 and then replay the book with the bonus item in order to leave the message. I do agree that the Canon ending is most likely the one where we get the bonus item from Bronwen, but in order to leave the message, Ralph would have to leave it after he's already died making at least those 2 endings canon.
Y'know I have a theory that I just made today that maybe Henry went on to possess Mr. Hippo because remember the stories he had from Ultimate custom night. Well one of em was talking about dead birds Which I pressume is code for The missing children maybe Orville was a representation of Henry when he figured out William murdered kids because the story Mr. hippo remarks is him explaining that the birds are dead to Orville maybe this could be how Henry found out William's secret....
I had a similar revelation in regards the monologuing of Mr hippo. I think for sure is shows a partial dynamic of Henry and William.
That's an interesting theory! I do see a large connection between Mr. Hippo and Henry.
With Phone Guy's real name, I can't help but think of Wreck-It Ralph
finally someone's mentioned phone guy's death after all these years... it seemed as tho everyone has forgotten about it and ignored it's potential significance to the lore
The book gave him a LOT more significance. Especially with how much lore he casually drops
I like this interpretation, because otherwise the answer is that the inconsistences are due to poor writing. In other written FNAF material, the idea of writing errors due to miscommunication between the IP originator (Scott) and the actual author of the story makes some sense (people who write for established franchises are not necessarily actual fans of said series and so may not have a full understanding of all the complexities of that world/setting they are writing for), since the books are meant to sort of act as an "expanded universe" or "alternate continuity" from the games. But clearly, from the start, this project was always framed as directly tied to FNAF1 and not a "retelling" or alt-version; so the idea of there being poor writing errors as an explanation didn't sit well with me. I think Scott wants to allow for his writers to have a lot of creative freedom / wiggle room, but for something so closely associated with his own work (the first six games) that just didn't seem likely.
I also dont like the theory that its just bad writing since that argument could be used anywhere to debunk a theory. I have seen 1 theory that made the inconsistent writing just be an error sound compelling (Not saying it's right, just saying i did really like it). They brought up how the reader should never actually get to a specific page in the book since the item the book says to use is never given to us (and it's not the master key thing I talked about in the video). I think the channel was The Withered Truth
I'm just thinking that the phone that we get the call from Ralph every night is actually possessed with his remnant and has you explain with your theory every times the books send Ralph back to the beginning of the book but with something alter every time as if the book is demonstrating us the reader how a trap soul in a object feels like.
Forgive me if what I'm saying is incomprehensible as I am running on no sleep
I think there's something there with the cheater ending poem, as we're reading the book from Ralph's PoV but he knows nothing about the MCI, let alone William Afton, but the poem says the "purple man" something we've only ever actually heard in FNaF World, cus Purple Guy was always a fan name and its consistent wirh how children end up remembering their murder in the series, it's not "Bonnie" and always "the yellow rabbit"
I may come back to this wirh sleep and try to make more sense
I care
Honestly I think that already makes a lot of sense. If Ralph is in a videogame due to his death, then he'll get a lot of videogame references and one of the bigger in game videogames is fnaf world. It's also interesting that Ralph calls golden freddy "golden freddy" Since that is also a name used in games and by the community.
I also care. Got rid of the other guys comments since he was being rude for no reason
2:46 his crappy memory is probably why he is a fan of Fazbear entertainment considering how much controversy the company is steeped in.
After every matpat therapy session I’m now confused why Henry is now Ralph 🤔😟💀
Banger video, I think you got it. At the end you said you wanted to leave some further work for bigger theorists but frankly your channel is the right size and you are the right host to do that. The cowboy character was fun too, it would be cute to see more side characters like that, but don't get too plot heavy with it.
Lmao I'm glad you liked the cowboy! The call out to other theorists was more of a way to get their eyes and ideas about what they think about it since (in my eyes at least) no one theorist can get it all. Whether it's because they don't get all the details or there's a better solution out there. Plus everyone was talking about the fnaf 1 date again which is not as important imo. Like if we're off by a year or 2, as long as big events remain in the same order, that's all the matters
@@TerminalError Fair enough. I look forward to your future releases.
Another detail that seem to go in the same direction is in the first FANF movie. The initial night guard gets killed in the torture device which might work a bit like a remnant extractor, hinting at the idea of him staying around as a ghost.
When I went on a shady discord server, phone guy turned into..."The Phone Man"
1:03 -Except that this may be a mislead. Since it is a choose your own adventure with different endings and conflicting information, I'm going to say some MAY be cannon but not all is. How is this the case? Well, its in world. Yeah. I think it is tied to the games in our world but in that this is a book by Fazbear in the game world about the games they made to revive Freddie's. In the FNAF world a version of the FNAF games were made to cover the true events and rebound from them. I believe all the Fazbear Frights books were compendiums made by Fazbear to do this, including 'Into the pit" which acts as a companion piece to the game of the same name. I think the recently released "into the pit game is a game within the game world and "the week before" is just a book also in the game world. It makes sense to muddle the r ality of what happened by marketing it as an urban legend with a plethora of slightly varying events to the real ones bing offered as well entertainment. One of the paths or pieces of multiples in the book could reveal actual info about the phone guy but I dont feel it's as strait forward as it all being cannon. They never do that in Freddy's and I think it's up to us to realize that while speculating what Fazbear is giving or lying to us about.
4:40 is that a Techno plush? if so you sir have earned my respect
It is! Technoblade never dies!
Noooooo! Ralph diiiied! Who’s going to tell the Christmas Story noooowwwww?!?!
this is my new game theory
p.s. loved the video, theory makes sense, it was logically and clearly presented, and it kept me entertained rather than becoming convoluted and boring like a lot of channels
well done!
So videogames in FNAF are what the ghosts are experiencing? This makes a ton of sense and makes the franchise a million times better. Really smart of you to figure this out! You, sir, just earned a subscriber
I wouldnt say It's Me got redefined, more it was clarified how it was always used since FNAF 1.
This is an incredible theory tbh
(I love death loops how can you tell)
Thank you!
That isn't Bronwen. That's Cassidy using her voice and he messed up
You think Cassidy called Ralph? That's interesting. What makes you think that?
@@TerminalError I think it's because Bronwen knows Jeremy's name, and her voice is only heard on Night 6 AFTER Golden Freddy attacks Ralph.
@@mariepyre638 pretty sure that's not a name
He dies twice because we reuse phone men after they die.
Ralph's forgetful memory makes him an untrustworthy narrator, which means most things that this book presents from his recollection can be retconned in an instant, which means theorising on any of it is useless until further, more stable evidence rises. Meanwhile, Ralph being stuck in an endless loop in purgatory means that, technically, nothing the character experiences is real and fake at the same time.
Then again, Ralph could simply be forgetting how he really died, meaning the ending where he died after defeating the animatronics' evil scheme could simply be non-canon to the games as well, because Ralph "replayed" his actual death wrongly and didn't get to record the messages before Golden Freddy got to him.
Literally incredible theory. I'm totally sold
Thank you!
Hats off to the fit, only thing you're missing is a crackle filter and a crisp transatlantic accent
Also agreed with all your takes on it, I really can't wait to see what people pick up from the book with time to really pick it over and give it thought, by far the most lore significant drop of the last several years (even moreso than Security Breach, actually(
SUPER underrated! Great video as always
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
This is the first video I've seen that has pronounced Bronwen's name correctly, this is something to be proud of
Thanks lmao. I've seen a few other creators say it wrong and I had to go back and see how it was spelled to see if I was saying it right
I think this theory is really compelling but personally when I read the book I interpreted Ralph's memory problems as a disassociative disorder (or something similar)
That's interesting, what makes you think that?
Honestly this is very compelling
Thank you!
I still call Ralph - Phone Guy
I've always called him Scott personally.
It's out of habit at this point. I had to rerecord some parts because i kept calling him phone guy lol
he will always be pg
goes to show there was a lot more to fnaf world than a lot of us assumed.
Fnaf world is quickly becoming super significant
Poor Ralph was living an infinite Loop without even realizing
It might be better than him realizing and not being able to find a way out
Hey I'd like your opinion on the plushies seen in fnaf 4 minigames inside the crying child room. Why is foxy headless? I always assumed that it was because Mike was wearing it somehow as a mask, but seeing as the other bullys have their own mask, i dont really think that can be the case, especially since people are connecting the help wanted 2 protag to the bully from a mask that we see is clearly plastic. If Scott wanted us to pay attention to the fact the toy chica toy seen in the game is missing its beak, then im sure theres some deeper meaning into the plush missing its head
I honestly haven't thought of the foxy plush in awhile. But you bring up a good point because I always assumed Mike made his mask from the plush as well. My original assumption was because foxy was the newest character he didn't have all the same merch the others do (he'd obviously have some like the plush but wouldn't yet get a mask for whatever reason)
But after thinking about it for a bit, we know from fnaf world that the afterlife has an effect on the real world and vise versa, so what if CC just had a broken foxy for whatever reason, and somehow he is forcing foxy to always be broken. Similar to how all the toy animatronics have the same problems that the actual toys have. No idea why foxy is missing his head though or why the foxy animatronic isn't missing a head.
I don’t think I agree with this theory, but it is very interesting! I think he just has a phone in the canon ending, and the memory issues just mean something else. It seems implied that the building has something that makes you forget, pertaining to the reason the guards keep coming back.
Tbh, while reading, I thought the memory loss was just the way they were going to avoid mentioning specific events during the night since most nights have at least 2 ways to win. But I do think at the beginning of the book, Ralph mentions how other night guards say what they go through during the night implying they remember but Ralph doesn't.
Lud & Schlatt's music emporium is always a win
The loop idea is so interesting!
YESSS! Been so excited for this one!!
I've been excited to post this!
I think that it’s worth mentioning the connection of living/dying in a loop and Golden Freddy. William Afton was the exact same way in UCN (although granted, he was killed by Henry’s fire), where GF was present in that loop of living and dying over and over again, whereas Ralph was directly killed by him. If we take the lore hints from the other books into account, the FazFrights story “The man in room 1280” has a similar premise, where the stand-in for UCN’s Vengeful Spirit has lost their memory, but still latches onto the titular man’s psyche for some reason, before learning the man was the one who killed them. If we were to apply that to The Week Before, it could be one of two things: either A) GF’s spirit (who we’ll call David) learns that Ralph knows about the animatronic’s plans to escape and death loops him to prevent that secret from getting out, or B) GF lost enough memory as a spirit to believe that (much like early FNAF theorists believed) Ralph is the one who killed the animatronics, not William Afton.
This makes so much more sense now! Thanks!
That's actually such a good interpretation???
Honestly this is just canon in my mind now, Ralph called Mike from his limbo space (and possibly moved on right after)
I had no idea this book was actually part of the Game continuity. Like damn I didn’t know Scott would ever 💀
Perhaps there is a connection to old man consequences. If we take this video as fact then Ralph is has been falling through variations of his own life/world so much so that a parts of him are too scattered to fully remember.
I can see that, especially since the last line in the "canon" ending where he records the night 4 call is "All your choices have led you here, and now you're out of options. The only thing you can do is wait." the literal definition of consequences.
Imagine if phone guy was old man consequences that would totally break the lore lol😂
I could see it happening, especially when the "canon" ending in the book ends with a weird ominous line that says something like "all your choices have led to this" which is pretty much the definition of consequences.
I might have just talked myself into thinking this lol
I think the part where you have to replay the book with a new item to get the canon ending is more of a mechanic than a story point, is new game plus.
I like how you delved into this weird inconsistency.
There are a few things mentioned I find odd or disagree with:
* You mentioned how Bronwen calls from beyond the dead. Good! But then you use her knowing Jeremy as evidence... okay, sure... but then Ralph brings up Susie. Well he's already dead right? Well maybe, maybe not. You can get this scene without the bonus item so it doesn't support your theory at all. It doesn't counter it exactly but my point is that you can get this scene before the needed death for the true end. This is unlike the "SAVETHEM" text which you ONLY get after having the bonus item.
* You mention Copellia not being brought to Freddy's being contradicted in the book. The Unwithered Truth made a great video [The Week Before Solved FNAF 1's Timeline... And Everyone Missed It (Theory)] that points out that page 44 may be an error in its entirety (or an early draft). The main reason being how that page is accessed being contradicted later (via the ticket)
I hope I didn't come out too harsh. I still like this idea in concept and the way you presented it.
I've seen that video, and really liked it; I also agree with the 1989 date (although the Disneyland tagline might be a counterpoint).
In the case of this theory, which Perseid Labs also had (along with Ralph possibly being the Bite of '87 victim), I think it's plausible in the case of you having to play New Game + to get the FNaF 1 ending at all.
@@flickyfkosstitcher8547 Oh yes, for sure. I still like this theory and it's still plausible. The fact Ralph HAS to die to recors the canon phone calls speaks volumes really ^_^
I'll have to check out Perseid Labs' video next!
We got Signalis Time-Loop fuckery in FNAF before GTA six..
The phone calls in fnaf 4!!
I forgot about those! They're in reverse too! Just like what happens when we type 1983 for the voicmail!
such a good theory!
Thank you!
what's funny is that phone guy dies in part one, but he was the security guy in part two which was a prequel. two happened before one. which is weird because the first game check clearly said 1987, and part 2 was years later.
close enough thanks for the amazing theory Gomez Addams
Thank you!
Or the canon explanation on why Ralph's memory is so bad and the possibility of him having to die is that its the Dayshift at Freddy's canon where Fazbear Entertainment manufacturers Phone Guy's for each Freddy's establishment it also explains his loyalty... wait hold up why does this actually work.
That would mean his daughter is a one of a kind animatronic, they ran out of Mikes and Mike Jr's at the factory XD/silly
@lunabruce1804 Not necessarily according to DSAF lore Phone guys are manufactured out of previously alive spring locked employees, which also explains why he doesn't remember Fredbears or the year the company started.
I think we should call him Ralph Guy
I'll admit, Im a bit lost by this theory. Is the golden freddy ending where you get the bonus phone meant to be how he canonically dies? feels a bit strange. wouldnt it make more sense and be less convoluted if the real ending was Phone Guy reliving the events that led to his death rather than him leaving post-mortal messages? The Golden Freddy ending where he gets the phone would be part of the loop, with Golden Freddy basically confronting Ralph and forcing him to acknowledge the continuity of his deaths by keeping an item from later in the game and bringing it to the start. Effectively clearing a mental block that's been preventing him from accurately retracing the steps of his final week.
I saw it more like Ralph lives through the ending where he gets the phone and then dies leading to him reliving the books events with the phone until he leaves the phone call but it would also make sense if something was blocking him from using the phone until golden freddy steps in, especially since the other endings are obtainable without the phone.
I like that every ending is canon, but rather than a spirit it’s the same as the ballpit. It’s actual time travel
I still don't believe the ball pit is causing actual time travel especially since the game came out
You’re a goddamn genius.
Nah, just a bit obsessed with this franchise
why does this make sense??
Gotta come clean. It makes sense because I know Scott and he just told me what it all means.
@@TerminalError lol.
This makes a lot of sense, nice
So the phone guy, is LITERALLY the phone guy? A spirit trapped inside the phone we hear, just as for the spirits trapped in the animatronics until he can find his peace and escape to heaven?
You are undoubtedly,in other embodiment of talent but what if after phone guy died on night 4 of fnaf1 he was stuffed into golden Freddy?after all phone guy did say the animatronics will try to stuff you into a Freddy suit and plus we hear golden Freddy’s scream on the phone before phone guy dies!!!❤️💖💖❤️💖💛
Exept the survival logbook
I personally think the master key did work but what was behind that door wasnt safety but william afton
Good video good theory I was not super into believing it at first but there was a lot of evidence to it I believe it now
I can hardly take this seriously with the fucking kaub ending music from guts & blackpowder in the background
So does this mean ralph is the 1987 victim and the crying child is the 1983 bite victim based on the parallels?
Before I whatch… I just want to say, like the thumbnail.
Thank you!
@@TerminalError
You’re welcome
I Like this theory, how is this theory.. Security Breach is Michael Aftons after life, he is Freddy and Gregory. He has more than one POV. It's the only reason for HIS ROOM
to exist in the Pizza palace building.. his room being there is un-realistic. Although the distence from this 'room' and to the pizza place is about the same distance as C.C. walking on the day he got bit.. it was right around the corner. I would love to measure that out to see if you have to leave his room go south. East. then north to get to the sinkhole. This building
might have been built right on top of the ruins of the old pizza place from the mini-games, then that was remade into pizza simulator then RIGHT ON TOP of that the Pizza Plex.
Like the theory but a little confused. My brain insists that if Ralph has to die stopping the animatronics in night 6, then there must be a week between Ralph and MC working the night shift 😅 but if I'm reading this right, the Bronwyn phone ending happens, MC starts the next week, and Ralph spiritually makes the calls as MC works? How does his night 4 death work then? Is the aftermath of that achieving his happiest day?
Another banger
Thanks Bacon Ducky!
9:40 Ow sportsy, I miss one livestream and you forget about me =(
Don't worry Dave I did NOT forget about you. I was originally gonna make a video about Dave in the book
@@TerminalError Thanks sportsy
Damn bro how many comments did you reply to?
Just a couple
"set before" doesn't mean Canon. Only means that the book takes Place before the Canon game, but if the book itself Is Canon it's an entirely different matter
AMAZING THEORY! This deserves more popularity get fuhnaff here🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
This is the third time someone has tried summoning someone! You people are going to actually do it, and I'm going to die from excitement!
@@TerminalError HELL YEAH WE WILL
You have a very similar cadence to Michael from vsauce
That's a first. Thanks!
@@TerminalError I was watching Michael's interview on Anthony Padilla's channel yesterday, so his voice was fresh in my mind lol
I haven't seen that interview. I'll have to give it a watch tomorrow
You have a really nice mustache
Michael Afton is able to connect to the un-dead world because of Sister Location... 🤔 BUT we know Mike is 'Undead'
Did Ralph get Scooped?
That intro was so creepy lol
Especially because my name is Susie 🌚😂
I made it seventeen seconds after it released let’s go this will be interesting (also edit like hours after whatching this I forgot to say I think this theory is nice and I’m sure lots of others would agree
I'm really glad you liked it! Thanks for getting here so quickly!
really interesting...
Longlegs vibes in that intro
You should collab with ShadowFreddyGamerYT!!
I don't think I've heard of them. I'll look them up now!
you have 14 minutes
@@ShadowFreddyGamerYT OMG THE REAL SHADOWFREDDYGAMER😱😱😱
the whole point of the book was to give us clues to solve where fnaf 1 is in the timeline no? I thought ryetoast solved it
That's not the whole point of the book. The book has a lot of Lore thrown in it, big and small. That's just one thing it tries giving us an answer to.
Was that Ted Gunderson?
It's LoopTheory all over again
This is so cool
At 5:46 or roughly around that mark, you talk about how to get to the cannon ending, Ralph has to die. Yes, that is nothing special as the same logic applies to every other time that he dies in the interactive novel. It was just the correct path to get the final piece where Ralph now knows the number (the special item I believe was the 4 digits for the phone last I checked) as was the correct series of choices for nights 1-4 to get to the night where he does to unlock said special item. Just want to point that out. Not a great piece of evidence.
but like what if they did that just to like, pad out the run time of the book like
peter died twice (or three times to be accurate)