Also, that’s pretty much what I do on my computer but my HHD is external and I store that separately. It gives me more pice of mind just in case something happened to my computer but I don’t do nigth backups so I don’t think it’s better 😂
You should follow the 3-2-1 back up strategy. Also, if you have all your photos in one computer and have a power surge, it could fry electronics. And last but not least, hard drives can become corrupted or have bad sectors that can increase over time. That hard drive will need to be replaced. Having a NAS helps but it’s not a fool proof solution. I’ve experienced these scenarios which is why I hope this helps someone 🤙
Ssd doesnt have sectored storage, its not as susceptibility to failures as hard drives were. He should still backup somehow, but its not the same tech as hard drives where you kinda needed multi-level raid to make sure you were safe.
Can already tell why you had syncing issues. Those are WD Red NAS drives using SMR tech as opposed to traditional CMR. They were prone to dropping out of raids, syncing issues and generally bad behaviour in NAS environment. They got sued for that.
That feeling when you wrote your own NAS server with a complete web interface and client that can also make backups synced between different instances all of which could exist anywhere in the world... Couldn't be me for sure...
Raid is not a backup anyway, it’s for situations when when you need the system by be accessible 24/7 under any circumstances. An off-site backup is what will save the day. Backing up to an external drive regularly and keeping the drive disconnected is one of the options I’ve been using
That doesn't solve the bit rot problem. You WILL encounter corrupted files over time from flipping bits. You NEED to use a data reconstructing file system like ZFS with RAID-Z if these files are important to you. And you still need an offsite backup. And also, if your SSD fails in the time between ingest and backup, you will lose data.
Is data corruption on an SSD this frequent? If it was the probability to get even a single bit change in an executable file is real, and since most of the modern software is signed the system would not even boot (if affecting system files) or refuse to start applications. Something is never happened to me in reality. Flash memory doesn't get corrupted so easily, and mechanical hard drives have built in error correction schemas. Of course there is the case of the drive that is failing and starts corrupting data, but again you will notice it, checksums on the filesystem will start to fail. To me RAID is worth it but not for data backup, for that you need to have 3 copies of your data anyway, and the RAID will give you only a useless level of redundancy, and in some situations a false sense of security. RAID is useful tough for continuity of service, I have a server, a drive fails, I replace the faulty drive but meanwhile the system stays online, while with a backup (that I have to have anyway) I will get some downtime till I restore the backup. Another thing RAID is useful is to increase performance. But as a backup tool, RAID doesn't make too much sense. I've seen a lot of people that thought that RAID was safe since a drive can fail and then loose everything because they didn't make another backup. The probability of 2 drive failing at the same time is normally low, but if you buy 3 drives of the same production batch and they stay on the same amount of time to put in your new NAS the chances that more than one of them will fail at the same time is not low. That is a drive fails, you replace it, the NAS start reconstructing the RAID (and thus put a lot of stress on the remaining 2 drives) and then another drive fails. Unfortunately seen that happen more than 1 time.
please make an entire video about this, I'm currently dealing with a lack of storage and I've heard so many opinions and seen so many options.. I need more xD
So, the thing with RAID is that there's different types. If you get yourself a hardware RAID controller like they use in servers, some actually have a function that handles all the RAID on the card, so your operating system sees only one drive, even though it's mirrored. Also, RAID IS NOT A BACKUP! Remember the 3-2-1 rule for backups: At least three separate copies of your data, at least two different media types, and at least one off-site backup.
I'm freaking out too, just like you said the comment section would lol. But not for the reason you might think... That 870 EVO is Samsung's most unreliable SSD to date. I bought 3 of them (the 4TB model) and they all died after 2-3 months of very light usage.
I agree with you. The big advantage of RAID in the past was speed ... everything else was a downside. Now you can get the speed with SSD/NVME you don't need RAID. Should put backup disks in a buried metal box to try and keep safe from radiation damage. Should probably put PC/laptop in one too! ... probably pointless as if we get an "event" then you will be on your own and have worse problems than to get at your data! I also do not like encrypted/compressed backups as a tiny bit error can corrupt everthing "downstream"
I started out with a Raid 5. Something in that Raid or the power delivery was wonky. So nearly everytime I restarted my media server the raid had to be rebuilt. Which took about 2-3 days. If one drive failed during the rebuilding i wouldve lost everything. When I got more financially stable I switched to just plain old drives and syncing them once a day. 6+6 drives. For some time now I added a "NAS" which i keep in a fireproof and waterproof case in my bunker in the cellar which I sync once a month. I really like the setup. Upside I don't fear data loss due to malfunction. But the only downside is if i unkintentionally delete stuff and dont realize it for a month. Backups instead of syncing would solve that but that would generate a lot of data.
Backups can be seen as a solution to get rid of a mirrored RAID in a PC. But you need to make sure you know and can restore in case of your SSD failure. If your software is good enough, you can probably set retention policies and save some space. Also it might help you recovering in case of a ransomware. Also depends of your data. If it's something that you can redownload (games, movies...) You probably don't need a huge protection. If however you need to secure those data, it's not the same and many comments already explain what should be in place.
if you have sync errors that points to possible data loss on a single drive. Versioned Backups are a better solution anyway in that scenario. (I'm currently running multiple ZFS "raid" setups that backup to each other. The smallest one I'm responsible for currently is at 48 TB)
Raid is not a backup. What I personally do is having data like Images, some .pdf etc. in my PC, NAS and at my parents place in a "NAS". I have them in Cloud Storage and in Telegram, since for now you can ham on all the data you want there. That's my 3-2-1 solution I learned after failure of 2 drives failed on me within couple of weeks
Raid arrays offer no protection against data corruption. Corrupted data just gets written across multiple drives. If you have a raid, you still need a backup. I don’t think daily backups to a single 16tb drive is a bad solution, but I think a better solution would be to install two 8tb drives and schedule backups to alternate between the two drives each day. The cost of two 8tb drives is close to the price of a single 16tb drive and the power cost difference would be negligible because the drives would be sleeping most the time. I think they draw half a watt each in sleep mode.
3 tiers: 1 working copy, 1 backup ideally cold onsite, 1 backup cold offsite. Raid is for instant availability and has nothing to do with backup. Highest risk today is ransomeware. These will encrypt all hot copies and make them worthless.
I have mine set up in jbod, and I just do a proper backups. I guess you popped up because I'm upgrading to a heftier server, rather than a simple file server.
i just use an offline nas for longevity. bulk data and old backups are stored on it. i just turn it on when i need to move something to it or from it, which hasn't been very often recently, maybe once a week. it's not ideal cz there's no redundancy or anything to protect against bitrot, but it's a great option if ur broke. ill consider revamping it in the summer.
@@jordanwardle11 True, but the thing i want to point out is that they don't wear and tear like hdds (dust) but just using them degrades their components
this is completely fine. error correction got so good lately. I have the same setup (just with slightly smaller drives.) my suggestion is to not forget the 3rd backup at a different location :)
I‘m also using a normal HDD as backup, an additional external HDD als second backup and ALSO a cloud based backup. So will never be worried about losing my data (AGAIN).
I should note that it's very important that you do have a backup of what's on that SSD. I help out with a server hosting company with ~50 servers. In the past month, 3 Samsung 870 evo 1TB drives have failed. We've never had any other drive failures aside from those drives. Only one drive reported SMART errors. SSD drives can die without any warnings. Be careful.
I used mirrored ssd's after our raid fell and this is literally how i setup our R&d depts' network drive, on our in house server, i then use synctoy for nightly backups to our main company server in another building....
Make sure you create an iso as protection while your adjusting your persistance measures . I reload my own pc ten times a day trying everything i can run on it ...Never forget your force field . . have fun pc ing .iso
sync issues? sounds like raid without bitmapping. (check out mdadm's default settings and what they do) sync every night to the other drive? use xfs or btrfs so you can dedublicate your backup history.
Personally I use a m.2 SSD for my images and video, then a 12TB HDD for a on PC backup, finally I have Amazon photos constantly syncing on my PC and a Backblaze version history in the cloud that's constantly running so I can always get my files no matter what happens 😁
Mirrored raid is kinda useless ngl u need to go higher up in the raid hierarchy to get any real benefits, and honestly as long as you using a reliable drive you realistically should be fine
The sync issues were because you did software raid, on a consumer grade mainboard. Online backups are not going to save you from a crypto for example… So please think again (Raid isn’t backup either)
RMA'd 2x 2TB 870 EVO after 1,5y to amzn because of that problem, the CRC kept going up... Noticed the 860EVO with 500Gig is more than enough for gaming stuff. Hope the 970 Pro doesn't fail, it was expensive AF^^
You can also bigger baller and raid a few ssd together for redundancy and storage speed. Will prob cost you a couple hundred but imo ssd speed are worth it.
That's *NOT* a backup but a single copy of the data. 2 copies of data not including the original data = a single backup. Your data is not important or you would have a backup.
Personally would put that 16TB drive in a NAS on a separate power breaker. This removes risk of one PSU taking out everything. As Linus says always off site backup when you can.
An SSD with nightly backups to a hard drive isn’t the worst way to do it, but your computer needs to be powered on a lot of the time if you want to set it automatically and I can guarantee that you’ll forget if you’re doing it manually. RAID is one of the simplest ways to get around this but software RAID (which is what I presume you were using before) is not good for this because as you say it can introduce syncing (amongst other) issues. Hardware RAID is significantly more reliable and is achieved with a HBA (or similar) that plugs into a PCIe slot on your motherboard, it then gives you multiple SATA, SAS or NVME connections to connect your drives.
I had a Samsung 870 EVO 4TB that was from a batch with bad firmware which caused the data to corrupt after only 28TBW, others online had the same issue, got the money refunded as it couldn’t be repaired.
I highly recommend to never have the backup drive on the same computer that are the working drive. You could have a NAS or use Cloud. If an electric short circuit occurs on the hardware of the working PC, the NAS would still be safe.
@@vandanasah8367 he's editing videos so might not be an overkill, depending on what resolution his videos are, they can become even more useful. No reason to not do this change if he has PCIe lanes to spare on these.
@@jontychatterjee713lly depends on his workcase. I normally have 4K 30 or 4K 60 Raw videos on my timeline , I have a 2TB NVME as my main C drive and then 1 8TB SSD and 1 16 TB HHD. Works really well. And I don’t feel like I need another NVME , maybe in the future when I get 6k or 8k videos to edit. Well for 4K , I think SSDs do the job really well.
I dunno if that’s really gonna upset anyone. How you choose to set up your computer is your own business to tend to. Just a heads up though if you’re experiencing sync problems on your current raid setup, that’s a disk failure. If you’re running a two disk raid, you should probably check out the controller asap for which disk is failing and change that .
If it was me, i would just use the 16 TB drive and use the SSD as a cache using primo cache or etc. It will basically write the data to ssd first and then write the data to the hdd after a period of time. But the data read from the hdd will always come from the ssd first, as to enhance the performance. Plus, 4 TB ssd means access from hdd will never happen, almost. Also, no disk fragmentation 🎉
Raid is great and all till you have sync issues with morris, bad xor data, junk data or a failed rebuild on a parity raid. Even more fun is when multiple drives fail, you have a raid but it has been running in degraded mode for months. Annnnnd it fails all together. Now you gotta figure out which are bad, good etc otherwise you got corrupted data. I work in data recovery and have seen it all. Rather have a single large fast disk with data copied using software than a raid.
Shaking them when they were powered off properly isn't a huge deal. The drives he has are WD Reds, which are made for servers and NAS use cases, and they can deal with the vibration caused by 59 other drives sitting in a chassis, so I think he'll be fine. And even normal drives easily survive that. Think back to when laptops had hard drives. How often did those fail?
No, it's not "extremely dangerous". Stop exaggerating. Shaking a drive while it's turned off and unplugged is virtually harmless. On modern harddrives the heads are automatically parked and the platters are locked. Do you have any idea how much shaking and vibration a drive will receive just by shipping it from the factory to a store or to your home? Think hard about it.
@@MrRobarino you could argue that they're properly packed then, but drives have survived beign thrown into a backpack with the laptop they're built into for decades. I'd have to be standing on a mountain of dead drives if his statement was true
As somebody who HAS had hard drive failures, I'd rather keep the RAID. Even better if your controller can use an active spare, or just make a RAID 1E array.
people if you care about your data don't do what he did. if you have 2 other backup sources you don't need raid but you should research data rot. if you use zfs it will protect data and data parity. you can lose data due to corruption that can be caused by gamma rays dust restarts power glitches
Isn't this like saying "I've paid car insurance for years and never needed it, but my car still goes wrong from time to time. So, I've changed my car and got rid of my insurance ".? 321 rule.
Ok so you should probably call Linus Tech Tips… that or double it and give it to the next person…
Also, that’s pretty much what I do on my computer but my HHD is external and I store that separately. It gives me more pice of mind just in case something happened to my computer but I don’t do nigth backups so I don’t think it’s better 😂
Double it and give it to the next person
@@AnthonyGugliotta 😂
@@erickalvarado7252 no wonder, you got a hard HARD drive, (hhd) instead of a hard disk drive(hdd) lol.
how about cut it in half and give it to the previous person
You should follow the 3-2-1 back up strategy. Also, if you have all your photos in one computer and have a power surge, it could fry electronics. And last but not least, hard drives can become corrupted or have bad sectors that can increase over time. That hard drive will need to be replaced. Having a NAS helps but it’s not a fool proof solution. I’ve experienced these scenarios which is why I hope this helps someone 🤙
More on this in a bit!
Ssd doesnt have sectored storage, its not as susceptibility to failures as hard drives were. He should still backup somehow, but its not the same tech as hard drives where you kinda needed multi-level raid to make sure you were safe.
Also put photos in separate cities...
OHV client get hard lesson
@@AnthonyGugliotta try Synology NAS solutions
@@kingmezs23 have you experienced SSD Corsair died? Well, I did 😌
Can already tell why you had syncing issues. Those are WD Red NAS drives using SMR tech as opposed to traditional CMR. They were prone to dropping out of raids, syncing issues and generally bad behaviour in NAS environment. They got sued for that.
Yep. A raid of two of the segate 16TB drives should be plug&play ish...
I need to learn more about Raid and Nas configuration and all the ins and outs, any channel you can suggest?
@@harshvaswani NAScompares
I recommend writing down all your data on paper as backup
Highly recommend to store a second backup geographically separate. Otherwise, if you PC will burn or you will get a virus which encrypt all drives...
I have a few extra backups running I'm going to talk about next!
That feeling when you wrote your own NAS server with a complete web interface and client that can also make backups synced between different instances all of which could exist anywhere in the world...
Couldn't be me for sure...
Raid is not a backup anyway, it’s for situations when when you need the system by be accessible 24/7 under any circumstances. An off-site backup is what will save the day. Backing up to an external drive regularly and keeping the drive disconnected is one of the options I’ve been using
That doesn't solve the bit rot problem. You WILL encounter corrupted files over time from flipping bits. You NEED to use a data reconstructing file system like ZFS with RAID-Z if these files are important to you. And you still need an offsite backup. And also, if your SSD fails in the time between ingest and backup, you will lose data.
Is data corruption on an SSD this frequent? If it was the probability to get even a single bit change in an executable file is real, and since most of the modern software is signed the system would not even boot (if affecting system files) or refuse to start applications. Something is never happened to me in reality. Flash memory doesn't get corrupted so easily, and mechanical hard drives have built in error correction schemas.
Of course there is the case of the drive that is failing and starts corrupting data, but again you will notice it, checksums on the filesystem will start to fail.
To me RAID is worth it but not for data backup, for that you need to have 3 copies of your data anyway, and the RAID will give you only a useless level of redundancy, and in some situations a false sense of security.
RAID is useful tough for continuity of service, I have a server, a drive fails, I replace the faulty drive but meanwhile the system stays online, while with a backup (that I have to have anyway) I will get some downtime till I restore the backup. Another thing RAID is useful is to increase performance.
But as a backup tool, RAID doesn't make too much sense. I've seen a lot of people that thought that RAID was safe since a drive can fail and then loose everything because they didn't make another backup. The probability of 2 drive failing at the same time is normally low, but if you buy 3 drives of the same production batch and they stay on the same amount of time to put in your new NAS the chances that more than one of them will fail at the same time is not low. That is a drive fails, you replace it, the NAS start reconstructing the RAID (and thus put a lot of stress on the remaining 2 drives) and then another drive fails. Unfortunately seen that happen more than 1 time.
Thankfully we don't need zfs and raid-z on a multi disk array just to get a desktop running...
please make an entire video about this, I'm currently dealing with a lack of storage and I've heard so many opinions and seen so many options.. I need more xD
For sure he's not the right person to follow.
@@UTJK. I don't really care I just want to hear more facts and an opinion with that
So, the thing with RAID is that there's different types. If you get yourself a hardware RAID controller like they use in servers, some actually have a function that handles all the RAID on the card, so your operating system sees only one drive, even though it's mirrored.
Also, RAID IS NOT A BACKUP!
Remember the 3-2-1 rule for backups: At least three separate copies of your data, at least two different media types, and at least one off-site backup.
RAID for private use is overrated. Just get a backup solution that you can access in an emergency.
You could do raid mirror with SSD’s instead of the hard drives you had
I'm freaking out too, just like you said the comment section would lol.
But not for the reason you might think...
That 870 EVO is Samsung's most unreliable SSD to date.
I bought 3 of them (the 4TB model) and they all died after 2-3 months of very light usage.
Been running RAID for 10+ years. One in my PC, one in my NAS. Never seen issues tbh. (touch wood!!)
I agree with you. The big advantage of RAID in the past was speed ... everything else was a downside. Now you can get the speed with SSD/NVME you don't need RAID.
Should put backup disks in a buried metal box to try and keep safe from radiation damage. Should probably put PC/laptop in one too! ... probably pointless as if we get an "event" then you will be on your own and have worse problems than to get at your data!
I also do not like encrypted/compressed backups as a tiny bit error can corrupt everthing "downstream"
Ugh... the never ending issue of keeping your data safe with backups... Good luck my friend and to everyone!!!
I started out with a Raid 5. Something in that Raid or the power delivery was wonky. So nearly everytime I restarted my media server the raid had to be rebuilt. Which took about 2-3 days. If one drive failed during the rebuilding i wouldve lost everything.
When I got more financially stable I switched to just plain old drives and syncing them once a day. 6+6 drives. For some time now I added a "NAS" which i keep in a fireproof and waterproof case in my bunker in the cellar which I sync once a month.
I really like the setup. Upside I don't fear data loss due to malfunction.
But the only downside is if i unkintentionally delete stuff and dont realize it for a month.
Backups instead of syncing would solve that but that would generate a lot of data.
Backups can be seen as a solution to get rid of a mirrored RAID in a PC. But you need to make sure you know and can restore in case of your SSD failure.
If your software is good enough, you can probably set retention policies and save some space.
Also it might help you recovering in case of a ransomware.
Also depends of your data. If it's something that you can redownload (games, movies...) You probably don't need a huge protection.
If however you need to secure those data, it's not the same and many comments already explain what should be in place.
I have too been using SSD on my old laptop, never lost data so quick!
My Toshiba drives outlasted 7 years of 24/7 operation. On the other hand, I have 8 out of 10 Maxtor drives fail within 1 to 4 years.
Hey man as long as you have a backup your good in my books
And her I am 2 years into a project thinking “I should probably back this things files up by now”
if you have sync errors that points to possible data loss on a single drive. Versioned Backups are a better solution anyway in that scenario.
(I'm currently running multiple ZFS "raid" setups that backup to each other. The smallest one I'm responsible for currently is at 48 TB)
Raid is not a backup. What I personally do is having data like Images, some .pdf etc. in my PC, NAS and at my parents place in a "NAS". I have them in Cloud Storage and in Telegram, since for now you can ham on all the data you want there. That's my 3-2-1 solution I learned after failure of 2 drives failed on me within couple of weeks
Raid arrays offer no protection against data corruption. Corrupted data just gets written across multiple drives. If you have a raid, you still need a backup.
I don’t think daily backups to a single 16tb drive is a bad solution, but I think a better solution would be to install two 8tb drives and schedule backups to alternate between the two drives each day. The cost of two 8tb drives is close to the price of a single 16tb drive and the power cost difference would be negligible because the drives would be sleeping most the time. I think they draw half a watt each in sleep mode.
I feel this too!
Each time i get ideas like these
" Am i crazy? "
😂😂😂😂😂
3 tiers: 1 working copy, 1 backup ideally cold onsite, 1 backup cold offsite. Raid is for instant availability and has nothing to do with backup. Highest risk today is ransomeware. These will encrypt all hot copies and make them worthless.
Honestly at this point just get a Synology+ NAS, use SHR and back up via ABB, then back that up to Synology C2 or to another external drive
I personally think ssds are mainly only required for an operating system, hdds are dirt cheap and can easily deal with most other tasks
Finally something about raid that isn’t followed by “shadow legends.”
I have mine set up in jbod, and I just do a proper backups. I guess you popped up because I'm upgrading to a heftier server, rather than a simple file server.
i just use an offline nas for longevity. bulk data and old backups are stored on it. i just turn it on when i need to move something to it or from it, which hasn't been very often recently, maybe once a week.
it's not ideal cz there's no redundancy or anything to protect against bitrot, but it's a great option if ur broke. ill consider revamping it in the summer.
Remember that ssds wear out with read/write cycles, so incremental backups should be a lot nicer to the ssd.
HDDs can fail if you tell at them to loudly. Everything has a life span and most ssds honestly have a really long life. (Assuming they are not faulty)
@@jordanwardle11 True, but the thing i want to point out is that they don't wear and tear like hdds (dust) but just using them degrades their components
this is completely fine. error correction got so good lately. I have the same setup (just with slightly smaller drives.)
my suggestion is to not forget the 3rd backup at a different location :)
I‘m also using a normal HDD as backup, an additional external HDD als second backup and ALSO a cloud based backup. So will never be worried about losing my data (AGAIN).
I should note that it's very important that you do have a backup of what's on that SSD. I help out with a server hosting company with ~50 servers. In the past month, 3 Samsung 870 evo 1TB drives have failed. We've never had any other drive failures aside from those drives. Only one drive reported SMART errors.
SSD drives can die without any warnings. Be careful.
I used mirrored ssd's after our raid fell and this is literally how i setup our R&d depts' network drive, on our in house server, i then use synctoy for nightly backups to our main company server in another building....
Perfect. Then just do the same with separate ssd and hhd for snapshots and use cloud storage for off-site
Make sure you create an iso as protection while your adjusting your persistance measures . I reload my own pc ten times a day trying everything i can run on it ...Never forget your force field . . have fun pc ing .iso
sync issues? sounds like raid without bitmapping. (check out mdadm's default settings and what they do)
sync every night to the other drive?
use xfs or btrfs so you can dedublicate your backup history.
Personally I use a m.2 SSD for my images and video, then a 12TB HDD for a on PC backup, finally I have Amazon photos constantly syncing on my PC and a Backblaze version history in the cloud that's constantly running so I can always get my files no matter what happens 😁
Mirrored raid is kinda useless ngl u need to go higher up in the raid hierarchy to get any real benefits, and honestly as long as you using a reliable drive you realistically should be fine
This is my old RAID [*ad break intensifies*] *inhales* .....!
You know the rest
The sync issues were because you did software raid, on a consumer grade mainboard. Online backups are not going to save you from a crypto for example…
So please think again (Raid isn’t backup either)
Careful with the 870evo 4tb. We sold about 13 of These and now i have to rma 7 of them not even a year later because of read failures.
RMA'd 2x 2TB 870 EVO after 1,5y to amzn because of that problem, the CRC kept going up...
Noticed the 860EVO with 500Gig is more than enough for gaming stuff.
Hope the 970 Pro doesn't fail, it was expensive AF^^
You can also bigger baller and raid a few ssd together for redundancy and storage speed. Will prob cost you a couple hundred but imo ssd speed are worth it.
I had a drive failure and where happy to have it cloned.
That's *NOT* a backup but a single copy of the data. 2 copies of data not including the original data = a single backup. Your data is not important or you would have a backup.
Personally would put that 16TB drive in a NAS on a separate power breaker. This removes risk of one PSU taking out everything. As Linus says always off site backup when you can.
Im actually running a separate 16TB NAS through a power conditioner/surge protector/battery
Furthermore raid in not a backup. I highly suggest a backup outside your computer though
Depending on how much data you have, syncing the weekly backup with a cloud storage could be a good call too.
Yes crazy...4tb one drive...let's hope that holds up.
An SSD with nightly backups to a hard drive isn’t the worst way to do it, but your computer needs to be powered on a lot of the time if you want to set it automatically and I can guarantee that you’ll forget if you’re doing it manually.
RAID is one of the simplest ways to get around this but software RAID (which is what I presume you were using before) is not good for this because as you say it can introduce syncing (amongst other) issues. Hardware RAID is significantly more reliable and is achieved with a HBA (or similar) that plugs into a PCIe slot on your motherboard, it then gives you multiple SATA, SAS or NVME connections to connect your drives.
I did this years ago, mirrored RAID is dead, SSD for speed, plus redundant backup all the way...
This is clever 👌🏼👀 just need an external storage, something like Qnap bays 👀
Si you’re basically doing a Time Machine but on windows ? That works as well
These SSDs have a huge problem while gaming cutting and they don’t get old. If you use it as swap you have it distroied in one or two years
Ok, Backup fixes this problem. So it is fine
No you're not crazy you're thinking ahead anticipating the problem and preparing for it
Synology all the way get the fastest you can and run in Synology Raid. That way you have external. Then get a glacier drive by AWS for external backup
I had a Samsung 870 EVO 4TB that was from a batch with bad firmware which caused the data to corrupt after only 28TBW, others online had the same issue, got the money refunded as it couldn’t be repaired.
Imagine having backups of files. Living on the edge
For home use, this is the right choice
No that’s a good solution. You should just have one more versioned backup in a different location.
I highly recommend to never have the backup drive on the same computer that are the working drive. You could have a NAS or use Cloud.
If an electric short circuit occurs on the hardware of the working PC, the NAS would still be safe.
If it's a 870 EVO, you should check the health constantly because these can have baaad memory chips.
Probably better than raid
You should have gotten nvme drive which is way faster then portable ssd
SSDs are cheaper than NVME drives. And for this use case , NVME would have been overkill
@@vandanasah8367 he's editing videos so might not be an overkill, depending on what resolution his videos are, they can become even more useful. No reason to not do this change if he has PCIe lanes to spare on these.
@@jontychatterjee713lly depends on his workcase. I normally have 4K 30 or 4K 60 Raw videos on my timeline , I have a 2TB NVME as my main C drive and then 1 8TB SSD and 1 16 TB HHD. Works really well. And I don’t feel like I need another NVME , maybe in the future when I get 6k or 8k videos to edit. Well for 4K , I think SSDs do the job really well.
I dunno if that’s really gonna upset anyone. How you choose to set up your computer is your own business to tend to.
Just a heads up though if you’re experiencing sync problems on your current raid setup, that’s a disk failure. If you’re running a two disk raid, you should probably check out the controller asap for which disk is failing and change that .
If it was me, i would just use the 16 TB drive and use the SSD as a cache using primo cache or etc.
It will basically write the data to ssd first and then write the data to the hdd after a period of time. But the data read from the hdd will always come from the ssd first, as to enhance the performance.
Plus, 4 TB ssd means access from hdd will never happen, almost.
Also, no disk fragmentation 🎉
Raid is great and all till you have sync issues with morris, bad xor data, junk data or a failed rebuild on a parity raid. Even more fun is when multiple drives fail, you have a raid but it has been running in degraded mode for months. Annnnnd it fails all together. Now you gotta figure out which are bad, good etc otherwise you got corrupted data.
I work in data recovery and have seen it all. Rather have a single large fast disk with data copied using software than a raid.
Bro that 2.5inch sata looks Goofy ahh
Still have a backup.
I've honeslty never heard this term before so I assumed it was Raid Shadow Legends..
At my intern company we had around 50 600tb drives
Shaking hard drive like this is extremely dangerous, it could easily malfunction it
Shaking them when they were powered off properly isn't a huge deal. The drives he has are WD Reds, which are made for servers and NAS use cases, and they can deal with the vibration caused by 59 other drives sitting in a chassis, so I think he'll be fine.
And even normal drives easily survive that. Think back to when laptops had hard drives. How often did those fail?
No, it's not "extremely dangerous". Stop exaggerating. Shaking a drive while it's turned off and unplugged is virtually harmless. On modern harddrives the heads are automatically parked and the platters are locked.
Do you have any idea how much shaking and vibration a drive will receive just by shipping it from the factory to a store or to your home? Think hard about it.
@@MrRobarino you could argue that they're properly packed then, but drives have survived beign thrown into a backpack with the laptop they're built into for decades. I'd have to be standing on a mountain of dead drives if his statement was true
run your os on a separate ssd.. ssd's wear down as you write to them. unlike hdd's..
Raid is not a backup, don’t forget about a offsite backup, in the rare case your house burns down
I think you should get a small storage server
You need a Raid! Raid shadow legends sponsor of this video! 😂😂
The cloud 🌧️ is calling
Ah yes, i top like to put all my data on one drive to slow it down and create a bigger risk of losing everything if and when the ssd fails
I think NAS server will be much better solution.
Bro haven’t discovered BTRFS yet
As somebody who HAS had hard drive failures, I'd rather keep the RAID. Even better if your controller can use an active spare, or just make a RAID 1E array.
Probably a better solution because RAID IS NOT A BACKUP
If the guy only needs a 4tb drive then that guy is lucky.
My Samsung 4T just died after 4 years of very little use. I thought it would outlive me.
Use a tape backup system
All I can hear is Allan Jude facepalming
smart upgrade
I do this with backblaze
You should use multiple smaller drives
Holy shit, are you telling me you never had backups until now??????
Don't run your backup in the same device you're backing up.
my boot drive is an intel raid 0 with a m.2 sata and regular sata SSD both are crucial MX300
Use a NVME they have the best performance
people if you care about your data don't do what he did. if you have 2 other backup sources you don't need raid but you should research data rot. if you use zfs it will protect data and data parity. you can lose data due to corruption that can be caused by gamma rays dust restarts power glitches
That is actually the problem with software raid. Software raid is so overrated. When you try hardware raid you will never go on software again.
One is none, two is one, three is a backup ;)
You don't need raid until it's too late. Drives fail. As mentioned below, you had the wrong type of drives.
Isn't this like saying "I've paid car insurance for years and never needed it, but my car still goes wrong from time to time. So, I've changed my car and got rid of my insurance ".?
321 rule.
What software are you using to have versioned backups? I struggle to back up my pc