Do NOT buy this $103 electric bike conversion kit
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Bracket on the inside, a couple of washers, and it works beautifully. I'd say the motor isn't all that powerful, but if it is just help you need on some of the stiffer hills, then it works just great. You got stuck when all you needed to save the project was a 5 dollar steel plate...
Easier with aluminium than steel .....
@@normandgallant8106 Hi, proof?
@@GDMHificationranpitc cutting and drilling holes is easier with aluminium
@@normandgallant8106 true I should have asked the person above for proof... maybe I could get some images out of them. Have the lovely resurrection power ever day kind of day.
@@GDMHificationranpitc I've made two brackets with aluminium for these motors , and using them on mu trikes ,can I help you with the images you mentionned ?
I would like to see you finish this with a custom mount bracket so we can hear how well the rest of the components in the kit work.
Xxzzzzzz has a lot of different things to say to me when I'm on the phone with my friends and I just want
@@MrSauve16 I feel the same way
Same
Yeah, I mean the thumbnail says I hate this motor but it seems the issue is the cheap bracket fit. If someone is building the super cheap route, they should expect some fabrication work.
You're not going to get anything 'plug and play' going super cheap...
I used something similar to build a scooter and it wasn't bad for the price
Did you try mounting the bracket on the inside of the frame instead of the outside it looks like it would fit and line up the chain that way
That was my plan, but it requires a reverse freewheel which they offer.
From Yalu - Marina, I don't like this public reply discussion with you, but RUclips left me no obvious way to reply. I have been emailing you directly about my getting the wrong kit. I ordered the left kit and received the normal kit which has the freewheel running backwards from what I expected. AliExpress order # 8014776998395459. Shipping carton packing slip # 20012432379.
I can't use this kit that way and need to get that freewheel reversed like I expected. I did expect to manipulate the mounting plate, but anything that I accomplish is useless without the backwards (left?) freewheel I ordered and expected I did not get the LEFT kit I ordered. Please help me resolve this problem.
@Zeksteve I realize that, but the freewheel is also backwards. I have ordered that and some extra chain. Turns out I misunderstood what the LEFT version meant. I actually thought it was the freewheel direction, not the bike side. My bad!
@@williamirwin5945 I had the same issue with the freewheel and fixed it with a little JB Weld. I applied it from the retaining ring to the adapter insert. Since using this fix i have put almost 1,500 miles on this kit.
@@jeffholmes9483 Let me understand you. You 'welded'/froze the freewheel so it is now a solid sprocket. This suggests that the motor gets pushed by the bike wheel when not under Epower. Then the motor has low resistance to pedaling.
I have this on my bike and it's a good kit, i am thinking of buying another one, but you would always need a little fabrication to make it align. In your case,, you would need several washers per bolt to bring your sprocket out. And somehow bend or mount your motor bracket in a different location like behind the frame. That motor bracket will not fit every single bicycle since every bike has a slightly different frame geometry...
Yes or as @Chris Grillo suggests a steel plate to shim the sprocket. These kits aren't exactly plug and play. They require installation. On one of my petrol motorized bikes I ran into a similar sprocket alignment issue . I used scrap sheet metal salvaged from a discarded household appliance to fabricate the shims. Used the sprocket as a template to mark out the 9 mounting holes + large hole in center and problem was solved at no additional cost.
I don't have this exact kit but I have a similar kit produced by Currie a long time ago.
Is this motor can last ?
I almost thought of buying this motor for my first time e bike, thanks for being honest with the community , this is way better than just watching you build it perfect from the start. Feels like I'm there with you in the process
Mounts pretty good for me
@@ItsJoeBull will still pull the pedal off under your feat and break your feet one day..
That kit is ass and should only be used as a motor helper eight thumb gas config, a true "e bike" need you to paddel an double on power not just spin the rear wheel like an idiot
I have one of these kits with almost 1000 miles on it. I wanted to use a cruiser for it so I made a template of the mount and to it shopping with me. I decided on a Kent 2600 Bayside. I did have to modify the mounting bracket by taking about 1/4 inch out of it. The motor sprocket is NOT intended to be used as a lefthand drive. The bearing will actually unscrew itself. I used a little epoxy on the outer ring and have had no issues with it. I went with the 24 volt 450 watt motor and it screams with my 36 volt battery. I can cruise at 28 mph on flat ground. I don't typically ride it that way but I I pedal with it at about 20mph. Hills are no issue either. I have a few videos on RUclips where I talk about my issues with this kit that I can share is anyone wants them.
Also about same story here, had to cut out pieces of metal from mount, so that the motor sits closer to the frame.
In our case we had more hassle with getting both chains tight, as it was single speed bicycle before, had to mount tensioner for the single speed to make it work.
Otherwise speed is quite good with 24v 450w motor along with 36v battery and controller.
Ive heard it is possible to run these from 48v but then risk is high burning them.
Lots of info about these on endlesssphere
@@kineto7 i used a half link to get my chain as tight as i wanted. My biggest issue was the freewheel sprocket kept falling apart. I used some JB weld to attach the back ring to the adapter for the motor shaft.
I also run my motor at 36 volts and no issues there.
I don't know about anyone else but for me it is well worth the money i paid. I got a 28mph Ebike for $300 including the bike and that is ok with me.
@@jeffholmes9483 Gladly we didnt have any freewheel issues. Buy yes, the chain alignment part was a pain, I think about a day was spent before it got sorted and right technique figured out, also first chain seemed to have worsen situation, so I think at end we switched to bmx chain as well.
Price wise very good kit, considering that significant speed can be attained, usually 48v battery might be needed for 40kph speed
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Works for me , had to adjust the bracket to fit , but no problem at all 2 years on ....
For a lot of people who are DIYers that are willing to take fitting this kit on, I don't think they'd mind a little bit of fabrication to get the project working. It would be good to see how well the kit works as it does appear to be the cheapest on the market and there have been plenty of people buying this kit but no video reviews on a complete install.
This is one of the most useful videos! You're saving many people the time, money, and frustrations! Thank you for being our guinea pig. God Bless.
Agreed. There are so many choices. It's good to know where to get the most reliable products for the best prices. We need more guinea pigs.
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Even if you get it to work it will have problems after regularly using it for over a year
I mounted the bracket on the inside of the stays and it lined up pretty close, added 1 washer to each bolt and the chainline was perfect....but the motor is junk
I wouldn't call the motors junk. I have had both the 250 and 450 watt motors. I have put over 500 miles on the 250 watt and almost 1,500 miles on my 450 watt motor. These are geared motors and they are setup to only run about 16 mph at top rpm but if you step up the battery voltage you can get much higher speeds from them. I'm currently running a 24 volt 450 watt MY1018 motor at 36 volts and my bike will top out around 26 mph on a flat road. My bike is heavy (65 lb) and me (205 lb). I personally think that is pretty good since a comparable ebike would cost over $1,000 and I have right at $300 in mine.
@Ray Ellam Be careful with over voltage. I recently changed my drive sprocket and apparently didn't get everything adjusted correctly. I noticed a decrease in power but thought it was just the mountain bike tires i had put on the bike but is was wrong. I barely went a mile before my motor was burnt up. Because of shipping delays and price increases i decided to purchase an Ebikeling 36v 500w geared hub motor that should be here in a few days. It will be interesting to see what the differences will be. I will be giving this left hand drive kit with the 250w motor to my nephew so it will still be in use.
@@jeffholmes9483 do you have a list of links to the parts you used? 300 bucks sounds pretty sweet.
@@jeffholmes9483 Some frigken glad to hear the motors are rugged , I'm planning a trip to Ecuador and have been testing my motor on a heavy Rover Tandem , sometimes I load up the back seat with large rocks to simulate my wife and her gear ....the extra weight helps the Big Apple tire adhere to road surface
Thank you for going the extra mile to help us out as we try to navigate the crazy complicated world of ebike conversions!
I bought that same pile of crap kit for my daughter's 24 inch bike. After bending the bracket in a vise several times and shimming to align, it worked, for all of 30 minutes before the freewheel sprocket shelled out. I threw it in a box and purchased a $155 500 watt 26 inch front hub motor and a new front fork for 26 inch wheel. This worked 100% and was still budget. Daughter loves it. It is 36 volt, and I got a battery for about 120 bucks on eBay.
Explain why the new fork? Also who sells the kit?
@@MumfordJim needed a fork big enough for a 26inch wheel. The bike is a 24 inch wheel bike. Hub motors cost twice the price for 24 as 26. Got the hub motor kit off eBay. Wanted to buy another, but all gone now. Next cheapest was about 220 bucks and 48v 1000watt.
I actually bought all of the parts since your last video and am on my 3rd freehub. I definitely ran into chain alignment issues, but was able to shim it out to get almost perfect alignment...however, the first freehub loosened and spun the bearings within 2 weeks, and it’s replacement freehub from LFaster did the same in 2 days. Trying a different freehub on the lfaster adapter, and after that scrapping the L faster kit and going for a hub motor
Wish this video was sooner! I got one for my son a few months ago and it sucks. The clutch fell off 1st ride. My son was very disappointed he still doesn't have a working bike now. Still trying to find the money and the right motor to try this over again. Also took a lot of modification to get the chain in line for us also I had to flatten The ears on the bracket where it mounted to the frame and then kind of tweak it in place each time to get the chain and alignment. I had a perfectly aligned everything tight and yet the clutch still fell off and in a really bad way it spun off halfway up the road and that was it. I was able to get it back on a few times but I finally gave up cuz every time we ride it it falls apart
I have seen users modify and fabricate the mount successfully. I purchased an L-Faster kit and used a metal straight bracket to make the upper connection higher and got the motor working on an old 10 speed. It works really great. Thumbs Up!
Thank s
He have risk himself for all our sake.otherwise we will be in the same problem.Thank you.
Biji kuriakose I ordered the kit and got it yesterday... I am going to try today
The problem wasn't the kit I've run several and for £60 you should have to expect to have to trouble shoot n modify he should have researched beforehand 😂✌️
@@tjmorgan8194 how is it now
@@MLGsavageking it probs exploded and he's ded
I don’t thing there’s any point on getting anything else but a middle or a hub motor.
Hi Mikey I purchased it from L-faster it’s the same kit as you have. I bought it after I saw your video. And tried it on 4 bikes I had. Finally returned the kit. I doubt it will fit any American bike. I then bought a hub motor kit by voilamart for $199 on ebay and was easy and fast installation. The total cost of the ebike conversion got bumped up by $100 the but rest of the parts were still utilized for conversion and was great. Infact got a 750w motor the bike goes 22miles and hour.
@KRUNAL DOSHI Can you provide link to your voilamart motor kit?
hello universal fit means you universally have to make it fit. ''Stacy David''
Great honest review from a professional! Thank you! Would spacing the sprocket on the wheel out further from the spokes be a possible fix? Maybe an extra rubber insert? Good Luck!
Thank you for letting us know everything!! Really glad to see these types of videos too. Good Luck!
Thanks for the heads-up, I am sure this will be helpful for a lot of ppl. Also thanks for the book, I have been enjoying and learning a lot reading the DIY ebike book.
The bracket mounts the other way round by the way. Flip it over and it will be an inch deeper.
Also you do have to use washers to level it and also you might need to extend or shortern the chain.
Did fit it and works really well btw.
If you still have this setup could I get a picture uploaded that I can see?
Really really glad to see a project like this! Looking forward to seeing a mid-drive!
Your vids have been very informative while I wait for my kit, keep it up!
I want to electrify my bike so badly, but I'm afraid that it's going to be so awesomely amazing that I'll never want to pedal a bike again.
most electric bikes come with something called Pedal Assist, basically you install a sensor that detects when your pedaling and the motor will only power on as you pedal, course you could also go straight throttle and forget to pedal
That’s exactly what will happen. All my vehicles are electric and I’ll never walk again
BNa
@@socialfreak6900 I do a little of both. But I love not having to sweat hills on a 44 yr old, heavy steel frame bike.
BUT THE LOVE I'M GETTING FROM THOSE WHO SEE ME ON THE THING IS ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS.
Micah was right about those Ibera frame bags. Even the large bag scrunches pretty well inside a tight triangle.
BTW, I'm a bit older than the bike, so.....
@Dennis Young I like that perspective. I think it's possible that that will be the case for me as well.
'The problem begins when you start installing it' I'm glad you at least got it out the box before their were problems lol
there
I just ordered my first eBike... I just wanted to thank you for your videos ... I have learned so much and you helped me make my decision on buying one... thank you ... awesome videos!!!
As always, keep up the great work! Appreciate the insight into how to build these bikes. This is just one less problem I will have to run into if I ever have to buy a cheap kit XD
It is refreshing to find someone who steps up to the plate , and admits he has been taken ,
on his purchase ..... Good show!
he hasn't been taken at all... the fix was so easy it is hilarious to think that he did not manage....
Yeah and he sells ebike books
people have been mounting engines and motors on bicycles for a long time. many solutions exist. just because the bracket supplied is not fits all is no reason to bail. it just takes a little ingenuity and time to line things up.
@@pauls5745 People in third world countries, have, indeed, been coming up with ideas on how to fix this problem. 50c is all it takes.
i wish u just had MacGyver some thing up and tried it for a few months, cheers Graham
Good to know. I dont think this kit has PAS paddle assistant even the mid drive version based on the missing PAS part (circle with magnets) but Im may be wrong.
This kit worked for me. I am confused a little bit when I opened the box, because it has no instruction manual in the box, even a page! I watched a video on the youtube, it turns out very easy to install. I, first, installed the motor on the right side and it works fine, just you have to pedal along because the crank set has no free wheel. I am about to try it on the left side.
Back in the days when there wasn’t much for bike motors,that motor would have been really nice 👍.
If you could get it to fit on your bike
We all have to be careful when buying cheap things.
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I am going to try locktiting the sprucket to keep it from coming apart! Mine I couldn't even get it to screw back together! Hopefully this will fix that problem!
I bought the same conversion kit and had the same issue. It wouldnt fit on any of my bikes and put a lot of tension on the spokes of the bike that it barely fit. RIP to my rear wheel ever being straight again.
It’s been 2 months since I built my bike and the motor is still running great. Mounting plate can be a bear to install; but everything else is great! If you’re not a DIY type get a front wheel hub motor kit; but if you like a bit of a challenge this is a great kit at a great price!. 8/16/22 motor is still running strong with no problem (using 48 volt battery)
Exactly. This not much of a problem for DIYers. In fact, DIYers would love some customization.
1/6/2022. Motor is still running strong with no problems
@@Scott4271 you use this one ?
I almost purchased one of those. Thanks for posting!!!
Yeah I almost bought one too, on eBay they are like $93
this kit is useless.....i have used it and wasted my money not only one time but in repairing several time...
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Maybe you should try a front hub style. Much simpler and no bracketing. 8)
I bought this kit a few years, and it took me about 2 months to get to align correctly. Although the one i got was with the sprocket that fits on the disk brake rotor, instead of the pineapple brackets that you got. I had to add spacers on the sprocket to push it out a bit more, since it wouldn't align with the motor freewheel. Maybe you could do the same and add washers underneath your hub sprocket? That should push out your sprocket even more and hopefully you'd get a better alignment. Another thing i did is that I hammered the mounting plate straight, since it was slightly curved. I also used hose tighteners to mount the plate on the bike frame (i didnt use their cheap aluminum brackets). As well, I noticed that the entire motor+plate would get pulled back and the chain would come lose whenever it was under load. So what I did is that I used cables with cable tensioners (attached the the seat tube) to pull the motor back, so that the chain always stays tight. Also, always try to keep the chain as short as possible. But you're definitely right, this kit is not something that you put together on the evening and ride the next day. It will most likely not fit on the first trial, and might take a few months to get it to work properly. But to their credit, this motor is a tank, it's super durable and you won't find anything better for the price. So if you get it to align and work properly, then this kit will get you to decent speeds, and you will have it for many years (hopefully). Although, the controller that came with it, well that's another story...but making your own controller for a DC motor is quite easy. Anyways, I hope this helps.
You have an honest face and seem very knowledgeable. You should run for president
With probably thousands ob bicycle frame designs out there, it's unlikely that there's ever going to be a UNIVERSAL KIT that fits all... and is expected when you are doing things in a budget that you will have to do some improvisation, some fabrication.... I really enjoy your videos and consider the information you share usually very helpful: I think that in this case you got carried away for the frustration of not being able to make it work AS IS... Still, the kit you putted together IS FAIRLY GOOD and some body else can make use of it adding a few washers or welding an extension to the mounting bracket. .... Wish you had come up with one of your creative ideas. cheers.
Do you think that the motor is suitable for us to work on trips and add solar panels and also do you expect the motor to bear for a period of five hours continuously?
Thanks for doing these videos. I always look forward to watching!
at the start of the video I was😢😭 but then at the end I was 🥳😄I'm really excited for the rest of this video to come out .get a hub motor and I want to see those batteries PUMP
I bought one of those!
Luckily I managed to fit everything in my bike, but I wouldn’t buy it NEVER again...
Trying to get the cheapest solution I also bought a lead acid battery... you can imagine the gap between that s**t and my current hub motor with lithium batteries haha
lead acid batteries are cheap but for a reason, they drain fast and are heavy as all living hell
@@bingus7361 yep....did that last year myself. Grabbed some scooter batteries this year and put the SLA'S on craigslist for free about 2 weeks ago.
SLA is fine for temporary, but lithium is definitely the way to go long term.
Ever think about making your own 4-wheel e-bike?
Can someone please tell me how to mount the specific batteries that he bought? I have two of those just like him but a different kit. I need help please.
The seller must have watched this video and left a thumbs down.
I did too because it seemed there are quite a few options to mount a motor or engine on a bike. nothing new. rear rack mount (w longer chain) fab a bracket a few different ways. where there's a will there's a way!
I would love to see a video showing a cheap conversion that actually works. Out of curiosity, I looked up what I paid for the components for mine and came up with $109 for a hub motor, $31 for controller with display, $4 for a thumb throttle, $8 for a BMS, $24 for ten high-drain 18650 cells, $4 for a battery charger, and $3 for a pack of XT30 connectors. That comes out to $183, including a small 10s1p battery pack that lasts about 30 min, assuming no pedaling. I also had to buy new spokes, and can't find the receipt for that, but I think it was less than $20. So probably about $200. That's still a pretty good price and the build wasn't too difficult.
I followed Jehu's video here: ruclips.net/video/r12IrYTqvas/видео.html using a surplus 26" Bafang commercial hub motor, and a XIomi scooter battery pack (10S3P). I used a different controller kit than Jehu and with shipping my cost came to $197 for the bare bones single battery build. It will go 20mph, and has a throttle only range of about 14 miles on relatively flat ground.
Excellent video. LOL I HAVE that exact motor and mount kit and had not yet used it. I my case. the $180 MTN bike I bought to install it on had more issues out of the box than I imagines (chain and rear derailleur had to be replaced immediately) then I over tightened the steering head and stripped it so I fixed and sold that bike before I ever got to trying this kit. I am going to try again soon with a beach cruiser type bicycle which makes no sense to have at all here in Colorado but may work with this motor j=kit. Thanks for the video. I was refreshing after seeing soooo many videos showing "how easy" an eBike kit installs on EVERY bike out there. LOL
I currently have a gas powered 80cc motorized bike that doesn't run anymore. Planning to go electric when I saw this kit. The reason why is because it uses similar sprocket mount that attaches to rear wheel. Just curious if this kit will work with what I have.
Wanna sell it? I’ll give you $3 and free shipping. 😂
I'll bid $10 and I'll even pay for shipping too!
@@AnthonyGoodley Donated $100 for you to buy a bin and trash it.
I didn't donate.
hows the DIY electric motorbike project coming along? is the next part coming out soon? am keen to see how that all comes together!
I've been reading a lot about new innovations in batteries. Any guess as to how far are we from a commercially available and affordable replacement for the lithium ion battery?
I got the mid drive kit that you are considering. The bracket and the hardware is pretty sketchy too. Would you be able to find a simple hub drive for around the same price?
Hi, Can you do a follow-up video on Arduino spot welder? Do you still use it? How is working after 1.5 years or maybe you vent back to Sunkko?
Hello, Micah! I am a big fan of yours, I hope you'll continue doing these great videos!
I got two of your books and following the batteries book I think I know the battery pack I need to build for my ebike (48v), and I would like to know your recommendations for chargers for these batteries, how to go about it to pick up one, your personal preference, etc.
Thank you, Micah.
I bought a 1600w brushless motor kit from amazon with the hopes that I could use it for my Ebike conversion but the kit didn’t come with any sort of mounting or let alone an instruction guide, I assume it’s up to you on how you’d mount it. Anybody have any ideas?
Grinder, drill and a hammer. Jobs done
I absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much! I looked a long time at this motor before buying it, and checked out creative channel as well, but he is just ridiculous. I ended up making my own mount on the rear rack. The chain is ofcourse much longer. And lastly, I agree with Jeff Rodgers, I would love to see you finish this project. Personally, I thought the motor is ok, but a tad bit on the weak side. Still, it propels you forward.
Again thank you with all of my heart.
Sincerely,
Alicia Antoniadis from Sweden.
In my application, a mid-drive 500W motor makes the most sense. The full system is a lot of money. I have a touring bike built around 1975. Am I wasting my money modifying this bike? Does it make more sense to pay around twice as much and buy a new eBike? I do have a small machine shop so custom brackets are not an issue. Thanks Micah!
I received mine a week ago and I maxed out around 18 mph. Though the motor blew up after 10 minutes ride at maximum speed. Do you know if the 36v DC motor are designed to heat up easily? Because I have multiple of the 24v and they work fine.
Isn't the support bracket supposed to fit between the wheel and the frame?
Will it clear if the mounting plate is inside the frame (on other side of the tube)? This is the same setup that all the early Currie E-bikes had. i always wanted one but they were crazy expensive at 400 dollars at walmart.
Can you tell me if that motor when get electric power can be stoped by your hands? And i mean not trying to much force with your hands cos my motor if i just put my hand on it i am able to stop with nothing is have like very very low power.
a cheap front 250w kit is £129.99 no battery included
What can you do to increase the range of an electric bike? how con you modify the battery for this purpose?
Ive wanted to see that mid drive kit for ages you would be the first person on youtube to do a video on that one.
Ok I have this motor set. But it fits on my bike just barely. I just need to know how to set up a (36V 48V Thumb Throttle Speed Control w/ LED Display Power Indicator For Scooter Ebike Front Rear Wheel Hub Motor to a Wingsmoto Motor Speed Controller 36v 500w Electrical Scooter E Bike Bicycle Tricycle Brush Motor Control Box). I have put this thing together 3 times n I've blow it every time how can I fix this n stop it from happening.
Thanks for the video. Very useful. I actually wanted to buy the kit for a soapbox. So I will have to adapt anyway the metal part and so on. And I am mostly interested at the quality of the motor and the chain (including the wheel). Can you advise on the quality/strength of the motor, the chain and the controller/eletronics? Many thanks!
Hi Mike!! Would you be able to give me the motor & controller of not using? I've ccm bike with narrow pitch and most probably it'll work for me.
Thank you for the update Micah - I was looking forward to your progress on this project. I hope you find a solution!
I’m thinking of putting a hub motor on my tandem bike ( for hills mostly). Do you think it will add too much weight to the bike to be safe?
I was asking for help on my ebike project on r/ebikes and I wanted a mid-drive motor. I was recommended the TSDZ2. I think you can get it by its self or with other components.
How does the difference in volts in a charger and a battery impact the battery?
For example. Lets say that my charger is rated at 12v and my battery pack is 24 volts, how would it change if my charger were to be 24v ?
Thanks for the heads up! I appreciate you sharing the both the good and the bad experiences when building.
You may have answered this before. But I haven’t seen it. Should you top off your charge after each ride. Or should you ride several different rides and let your battery drain and then charge it. I rarely ride the same amount each time and usually drain the battery about halfway.
Thank you for your honesty and your willingness to go back and reach out to your subscribers to warn us about a previous recommendation. I can speak personally that your recommendations carry weight with me, as i am sure to most of your subscribers. This video, while it was a teachable moment for you, i think what this video ultimately achieved was strengthening your credibility with your viewership. Thank you.
Is there any chance the bracket goes inside the frame, at least at the axle connection?
That was my first thought also...
I don't understand i mean he cnever put it in his bike, it can be fixed, i would like to know if it works well and if it works for long time
Hey Mikey you can use that motor for a scooter conversion or a gocart / golf cart conversion.
I bought one of these kits, mounted it in a few hours time, I had a lot of fun riding around. No complaints, inexpensive purchase, I have since switched to Ebikeling wheel/hub motor kit. So easy to install and ride.
did you try turning the bracket around the other way looks like it fit if you used the flat side of the bracket
yea, I think you're right
Just found your channel, awesome content, love it!
I'm late to this post and to your channel. I just trash picked a fixie. It has a fixed gear on the left side. Is there a way to replace that gear with a larger diameter one for bike rack style ebike conversion? I presume you need to pull the gear and press in another. Could that cheapo $103 kit be adapted to my fixie?
I have seen your first video on the $182 ebike conversion. I think I will still get all the parts recommended in your first video. I have metal fabrication skills and plan on making a custom mount for the motor on the rear triangle of a dual suspension mountain bike that I am converting to a tadpole style trike. Thanks for all of the information.
Well not sure where this video was hiding on me as I was looking for the follow up video to your original one, title may have thrown me off.
Question for you: I am looking to add a motor to my canoe cart with a possible modification to allow my wife to also ride on it like a rickshaw. She has problems with her legs and can no longer do long hikes. What I need is a motor that has a good amount of torque and only goes maybe a bit faster than walking speed. Not really sure what I should be looking for/at though, motor wise, at this point. Any help/guidance is appreciated.
Hello! Sorry to see the motor did not work, did you still figure out how to get the hoverboard batteries to work? I'm trying to use a single battery to drive an ebike, and you seem to be one of few who's actually attempted it.
I have 3 26 inch bikes that I would like to put a Front Hub drive PAS system on. All have rim brakes. Tire width 1 bike 1.75” the others 2”. I think I can get a 2 inch tire on all 3. If not would go with 1.75. Want to be able to switch between bikes. Thinking would not have break cutoffs. The most expensive part is always the battery which l’m thinking would be a mighty mini, want to be able to ride about 18 miles using PAS about 15 miles per hour on fairly flat road. I’m thinking a 250W system with maybe a 36V battery. Looking for suggestions.
Slightly off topic! But can you connect two 48V lithium batteries in series to make 96V to drive an electric motorbike
If you weren't squeamish about modifying the bracket or the bike in such a way is to give you a usable chain line do you think it would have worked out for you as far as power longevity reliability range and all of the functional aspects of it goes?
In the context of I'm working with a 29 inch rim Cruiser/ mountain bike hybrid and for the record I can show self-control when it comes to the power but I don't tolerate underpowered very well so if it's capable of ripping my spokes out I'm all right with that because that would be on me to mitigate.
Did that kit include a battery where did you have to purchase that separately?
It would be cool if you could find some kind of method that someone could potentially use to measure the distance from the dropout to the bars to determine if the motor would potentially fit within a certain margin of error before purchasing.
any reason why you're not looking at direct-drive hub motors? i got my kit (motor, controller, throttle) for less than $130. it's 1kW and relatively easy to install. hardest part was routing all the wires.
I've also seen some quite cheap hub wheels, would that not be a lot easier and still quite cheap?
Thanks for the video. I was researching this as an interesting option for a conversion, and decided to keep going after watching this. I eventually tracked down some installation videos - in Vietnamese I think, and some manufacturer information.
And here's the thing - it's not intended to fit a bike with gears. Some people seem to have hacked it anyway, but it's definitely not made to fit with a derailleur system.
Bikes around the world are universal at first glance, but very different when you get to the nuts and bolts level. Derailleur gears are standard in the UK, but not expected in other countries. I think the many Chinese dudes selling these kits are unaware of how different bikes can be.
BTW, I know these come in freewheel and weird clamp to spokes version (as reviewed) but from what I can make out the the geometry is just different around the world.
These sort of kits sell well in India, Pakistan, China, Africa etc where price is the priority and those countries have a lot of single speed bikes with 120mm OLD etc which would be good bikes to use this kit. You can see from the plate that it's intended for horizontal dropouts typically of single speed bikes, fixies and 3 speed hub gear bikes. The popular Buffalo bike in Africa would probably be a good candidate.
Hi. What do you think about X-TREME ROCKY ROAD 48V ELECTRIC FAT TIRE MOUNTAIN BIKE? Can you please make a video about how to upgrade that model into a beast model? Or is it possible? I'm little concerned about the back suspension too. The placement of it. Can you explain more about it?
Well Micah, looks like you are taking one for the team. What does the kit manufacturer say about the universal bracket?
To wait that long for parts, get the parts, attempt to put it together, oh crud! Not my idea of a good time and I'm pretty certain that it isn't your's either! I do very much appreciate your honesty. I hope to do a bike conversion this year. Best of luck and stay healthy!
got mine delivered today, there is no way to make that bracket work on a couple bikes i have at this point with starting to grind parts off..... i put a new hole in the frame so i could try to mount it inside but still doesnt look right... they have got to figure out a better bracket solution because as of now, ill have to return it... :(
Micah, what are the exact batteries you used and did you test them? Are they any good? There are some fake Liitokala and VariCore etc on AliExpress so I wanted to know if these were as stated and they hold their power etc. thanks