The Frost DK journey continues | Wotlk Classic Season 6 | 2v2 Arena PvP

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @novalgaraint4817
    @novalgaraint4817 Год назад

    Hello great video! Was just wondering what is the damage compaison from your obliterate frost strike and howling blast? Basically how much generally does each one do. Im learning dk and looking to go frost just wanted to know the damage they do generally

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      Hey, to give u an example for a PvP target with "normal" resilience of round about 1050 resil in S7: Froststrike does roughly 2000-2500 dmg non-crit, 3700-4500 crit. Howling Blast 1700-1800 non-crit, 2800-3200 crit. This is pure Frost magic damage and not affected by armor, only by Frost Resistance, if you should not have enough spell penetration. For Obliterate its roughly 1400-1500 dmg on high armor plate wearer with similar resil (without shield or frost presence) and 2600-2800 crit. For a cloth wearer with low armour and similar amount of resil its like 2100-2300 non-crit and 3800-4000 crit dmg for Obliterate. For lower/higher armor types like leather/mail it would be something in between.
      All of this in Unholy Presence and not Blood. Keep in mind that these damage numbers vary alot in PvP, cause there is not only normal variance but many factors like enemy armor for Obliterate and also Resilience reducing damage and crit damage taken on top of that. Then there is talents reducing all damage taken or also your own talents can effect the damage numbers, for example if you play with more utility talents like Icy Reach or go for raw dmg like 5/5 Black Ice instead. Of course your gear/enemy gear matters alot for this also(why these numbers will change in S8). On top of that there is enemy debuffs, or own buffs/procs, which i also excluded here. So yea you will see alot of different damage numbers in PvP, but mabye as a starting point this is still helpful. Killing Machine Proc Frostrikes, not being effected by armour, is the most important burst/damage source in PvP really, and as you can see it can hit for alot if you are lucky with procs or time them.
      If you want to know more about the abilities and in what priority to use them in PvP, i just recently did a Frost DK PvP Guide also covering this part (just without exact numbers, cause they simply vary too much in PvP): ruclips.net/video/pKVe2DXaJG0/видео.htmlsi=1o1wWaOeKN15ym-0

  • @giraffelord8721
    @giraffelord8721 Год назад

    What hit rating does frost dk need for arena? I know we get nerves of cold steel and virulence, but looks like your pve bis has high hit. I think offhand is less likely to hit so maybe it’s good to go over 5% melee hit, thoughts?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      Hey, offhand is not less likely to hit, it just deals 50% dmg, but dual wield auto attacks have low hit chance, so a bit extra hit is not wasted. Still, the hit on my BiS list comes passively cause so many of the 252 gear has hit, i dont aim for it specifically and as u said with talents the mimimum hit we need is only 2%, i would not value Hit that exceeds the hit cap more than Strength or Resilience. In every Season there is decent amount of extra Hit on the BiS PvE Gear, helping with extra hit chance and Dual-Wield, while still maintaining maximum of the best stats too, so i think there is no need to worry about it if you are going for BiS Gear :P

  • @ВладиславКавасаки

    another glyph question, fully support the ice pillar glyph as it gives us 40 runic power but i dont understand if playing through destruction and 3 points in slow talent where is the disease glyph?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      Disease Glyph is for PvE only, in PvP Frost often uses Chains/Plague Strike to prepare dmg and gain more runic power and diseases will often get dispelled anyway until stun so Disease Glyph is low use in PvP.
      Its all about burst in PvP and in a stun Obliterate can still be a good burst global without the Glyph. Spreading the slow aoe with pestilence will still work and the slow talent is also more of a backup to keep up if Priest/Palas spam dispell chains (with Icy Touch or Pestilence), or if it misses/resists and through Cloak of Shadows from Rogue the 50% slow will also still apply

  • @Azot333
    @Azot333 Год назад +1

    Awesome video thanks for all the info and details! Which spec in PvP do you think is the easiest to learn?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +3

      All Dk Specs are fairly easy to learn, but if you want to climb raiting while still learning then Unholy

    • @Bananza_48
      @Bananza_48 20 дней назад

      ​@@Razoonxбро, привет, скажи, пожалуйста, а есть ли шанс у дк Фрост? Взять высокий рейтинг?

    • @Bananza_48
      @Bananza_48 20 дней назад

      ​@@RazoonxBro, hi, tell me, please, is there a chance for DC Frost to get a high rating?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  20 дней назад

      ​@@Bananza_48 depends what you define as "high raiting" 2500+ is possible, but 3000+ i think not, so dont really think glad is possible as frost dk in cata, it got nerfed too much cause it was strong in OG cata and its overall worse in arena compared to woltk imo.
      2v2 frost can get decent high rate with a holy pal, but no glad title there.
      in RBG Frost can go to the highest raiting its the best spec there and allmost every rbg grp has one.

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  19 дней назад

      @@Bananza_48 nvm i just saw u comment on wrath video xd i thought its cata xd
      yes, high rate as frost is possible in wotlk, got 3k+ with it in multiple seasons and some others got high rate/gladiator as frost too
      like dk in general, it is still stronger in earlier seasons tho and not so much in s8 (cause bauble trinket)

  • @nilsborregaard1083
    @nilsborregaard1083 Год назад

    Great video! Question man!! When do you use howling blast over oblit?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +3

      cheers, usually when the target is high armor like plate/mail and i got Killing Machine proc, but lacking Runic Power for Frost Strike (or if you want to just start building Runic Power fast versus them). Then also, if the target has high Dodge like Feral or Rogue (Evasion) and they are not stunned for me or if im disarmed. If enemies are out of meele/Obliterate range, it can be a decent range pressure, building runic power and dealing way more dmg than Icy Touch.
      Generally Howling Blast is also good for AOE pressure, especially vs. comps like Warpal or 2x DPS and then i would use it, just be careful with Prayer of Mending or if it would break any CC, then i would use Obliterate again instead.
      In most other situations and especially vs low armored cloth/leather i use Obliterate when i want to burst (also low HP DK in AMS Deathchill Obliterate Physical Burst to maybe finish him) and use the Frost/Unholy Runes for Chains/Plague Strike with 2x globals while not bursting and just pooling/building up Runic Power slowly, depending a bit on the pace of the game.

  • @sam2791230
    @sam2791230 Год назад

    Hey man, 2200+ unholy DK here I’m wanting to run frost. What does your typical rotation look like in pvp? Do you use plague strike at all or do you save unholy runes best you can for obliterate?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      both, it depends. Versus Plate and when building up damage mostly just Chains and Plague Strike, cause it gives more Runic Power for the Runes and spamm refreshes diseases.
      On Burst, escpecially vs Cloth/Leather i use mostly Obliterate together with KM Proc Froststrikes and Deathchill.

    • @sam2791230
      @sam2791230 Год назад

      So basically chain/plate chains/plague strike and spamming FS and then vs cloth/leather you’re using obliterate and keeping frost fever up, using FS with killing machine and death chill.
      Bottom line I should be using plague strike vs plate/chain and I should use obliterate instead of cloth/leather

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      @@sam2791230 yes, but versus plate also keep Frost Feaver up its high priority, the whole thing is more of a priority system not rotation, it depends on the situation
      if you think you can finish the plate/mail in a few globals, obliterate can be good and then froststrike the last hp with procs/deathchill, cause obliterate is still the fastest way to gain runic power in a global, while doing okish dmg, thats why its best for burst
      Versus DKs on low hp can also Obliterate through AMS, if you are commited to them, is better than not doing anything to them for 6 Secs
      I would just recommend to play and get a feel for what priority is worth in what situations

  • @nonameqtx1049
    @nonameqtx1049 Год назад

    bro u play wiht slow offhand? and need your talents and glyphs pls thxx

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      slow offhand
      www.warcrafttavern.com/wotlk/tools/talent-calculator/deathknight/?t=C111B11000666688888A111005Beeffddddjiiikllooop9ssstttuxyyyEEEEEBaaa777I5A444Bmaaa9ddeeffjdd88888kpooossstttuyyyxEEEEEIiiillC1A4&g=0m7-104

  • @rusianoplasa
    @rusianoplasa Год назад +1

    go full guide on frost dk bro?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      maybe xD idk yet how i do full guide

    • @rusianoplasa
      @rusianoplasa Год назад

      @@Razoonx wait 🫡

  • @sicksidergr
    @sicksidergr Год назад

    nice another frost dk video

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      havent tried it yet, i mean anything works with a preg kinda but unholy should still be way betterfor that comp cause of anti-magic/pet and survivability without healer

  • @vlada_janjanin
    @vlada_janjanin Год назад

    when does season 7 start? i'm kinda cooling off past few months, plan to get back then for a while

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      noone knows for sure xD rumours is early or mid june, but could also be in may alrdy never know with blizzard...

  • @sidmukhtadir6837
    @sidmukhtadir6837 Год назад

    hey im frost dk pvper myself currently at 2.3k in 2s and 2.4k in 3s. I have been playing 3s with arms warr and hpal. We beat most comps but against Destro-Ele-Hpal we are flopping. Any tips how to beat them? Thanks!

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +3

      nah there is not much TSG can do vs LSP if they press their buttons, no way to create enough counterpressure without dying, maybe next season with the root DR nerf and if there is more uptime from meeles
      can try pillar alot especially bloodlust and do grip goes with hoj
      but it will only work vs bad LSPs and also AMZ is really needed kinda vs that comp

  • @razil2966
    @razil2966 Год назад

    can u show u item build?Which relic u use, and ho much resilence, do u have a ulduar non pve? i saw u have a lot of damage

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      its all in video description mate ;)
      E: eighty upgrades item goal: eightyupgrades.com/set/sqYhWxtLmC2ExUW4NcL44b, need neck and ring most, atm dont have but is still good dmg

    • @razil2966
      @razil2966 Год назад

      Thank u bro, u are the best;)

    • @MsJuliosimon
      @MsJuliosimon Год назад

      @@Razoonx hey man, loving your videos, why not use the slower sword? higher dmg..

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      @@MsJuliosimon yo ty man
      with the slower sword, idk what u mean exactly, do you mean the t2 pvp 1h weapon sword? its same speed as mace both 2,6 and there is not rly a dmg difference

    • @ВладиславКавасаки
      @ВладиславКавасаки Год назад

      you write that there are a lot of misses on the left hand, so why not make a one-handed build, and 6 talents will appear, you can make another talent branch.

  • @andreehuaman2277
    @andreehuaman2277 Год назад

    What addons do you use?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      Addons: Gladdy, Weakauras, OmniCD(Party Cooldown Tracker) LoseControl, Bindpad, Details, Diminish, LeatrixPlus, Omnibar, WeaponSwingTimer, MagicRunes),NugkeyFeedback to show key press

  • @banks1919
    @banks1919 Год назад

    Thanks for the help brother

  • @killerevro
    @killerevro Год назад

    hey sind auf 2077 rating (FDK + Hpala) extrem schwierigkeiten mit disc feral kombo hast du ein tipp?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      leider nicht wirklich :D disc feral und disc rog sind disaster mit frost... versuchen mit chillblains icy touch slow den priest vom pala wegzuhalten und wenn man guten kick landet versuchen zu oneshotten danach mit all in ibf + ams clone und hoj + strangulate... und wenn irgendwer was falsch trinketed freeze und hoj kill (mit strangulate) geht auch auf feral aber nur wenn er schon low ist wegen barkskin und dem stun reduction dmg talent :/ aber wenn man ehrlich is kann man das matchup leaven mit frost, leider

    • @killerevro
      @killerevro Год назад

      @@Razoonx rogue geht aber disc feral ist anti gegen frost dk xD ja

    • @killerevro
      @killerevro Год назад

      @@Razoonx die 2.2 rating waffen wären mega hätte dann mehr abhärtung

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      @@killerevro die r1 rog priests sind ziemlich schlimm, laufen nur um pillar kriegen perma resets und sap weil kein pet und lange DnD Cd xD mit unholy eig freewin fast

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      @@killerevro jo das stimmt. wird schon noch^^

  • @ВладиславКавасаки

    and what about one-handed weapons, a build of +6 talents will free up there.

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      i did build like that with +6 talent points on the beta and early wotlk, i have also videos on that :P
      its fun build and not as bad as people think, but in the end more unreliable dmg for PvP and Dual-Wield Frost is better overall dmg for Arena PvP
      other spec is more of a montage spec and feel like it was better when everyone had low resil and when Obliterate still did alot more also, maybe again decent with Shadowmourne who knows would have to test

    • @lutfikhundakji7149
      @lutfikhundakji7149 Год назад +2

      If Frost DK in Wotlk is anything like MoP, 2x1H Frost DK pumps more using frost strike (which bypasses armor I believe), and using 1x2H frost DK pumps more with obliterate.

  • @asdbugger564
    @asdbugger564 Год назад

    Hey it is addon maybe when arena end this is purple/yellow team win?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      Hello, no that is just normal like this in Classic

  • @orangu9376
    @orangu9376 Год назад

    Nice video mate - do you mind sharing your spec ? :D

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      ty mate, www.warcrafttavern.com/wotlk/tools/talent-calculator/deathknight/?t=C111B11000666688888A111005Beeffddddjiiikllooop9ssstttuxyyyEEEEEBaaa777I5A444Bmaaa9ddeeffjdd88888kpooossstttuyyyxEEEEEIiiillC1A4&g=0m7-104
      currently i use 2/2 Icy Reach instead of 1/2 and 1 point less in bladed armor but both works

  • @OthmaneAmzal
    @OthmaneAmzal Год назад

    What’s your week aura and maccro plz man

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      there is no wago.io link need to whisper ingame for link if not same server on lv 1

  • @DamienDruet
    @DamienDruet Год назад

    Decast for reflect Shield warrior plz good play

  • @dmilla9600
    @dmilla9600 Год назад

    Around 15:10 what did you mind freeze the dk for? 🥶

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      15:00 u mean? i kicked his pet, corpse explosion cast its big burst on my pala

  • @Felipegondim88
    @Felipegondim88 Год назад +1

    Dk frost + shamy enchac + pholy
    Big 3s

    • @Bananza_48
      @Bananza_48 17 дней назад

      Your English is bad.

  • @whodistho273
    @whodistho273 Год назад

    could this work w/ rsham?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      im afraid not really, frost dk kinda needs a stun and also a dispell, shaman is literally the only healer in the game that has not even one of these mechanics xd
      if played agressively and people don't know what to do could maybe work for some ok raiting, but hex and freeze also share the same DR so another heal should be prefered like pala > priest > druid imo
      warrs, rogs and double dps that know what they are doing should eat this comp alive

  • @harpist6473
    @harpist6473 Год назад

    what's your talent & glyph?

    • @ifjSzImre
      @ifjSzImre Год назад +2

      World of Warcraft. idk about the glyphs tough.

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      My current spec and glyphs: www.warcrafttavern.com/wotlk/tools/talent-calculator/deathknight/?t=C111B11000666688888A111005Beeffddddjiiikllooop9ssstttuxyyyEEEEEBaaa777I5A444Bmaaa9ddeeffjdd88888kpooossstttuyyyxEEEEEIiiillC1A4&g=0m7-104
      I sometimes run 2/2 Icy Reach too and trade 1 Point with Bladed Armor, i think i did in this vid

  • @KarlStabenteiner
    @KarlStabenteiner Год назад

    Talents/glyphs my friend?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      www.warcrafttavern.com/wotlk/tools/talent-calculator/deathknight/?t=C111B11000666688888A111005Beeffddddjiiikllooop9ssstttuxyyyEEEEEBaaa777I5A444Bmaaa9ddeeffjdd88888kpooossstttuyyyxEEEEEIiiillC1A4&g=0m7-104
      sometimes using 2/2 Icy Reach atm, exchanging with a bit of dmg Bladed Armor 3/5

    • @KarlStabenteiner
      @KarlStabenteiner Год назад

      @@Razoonx thx a lot man! Keep your work up!

  • @killerevro
    @killerevro Год назад

    hast du ein hpala der mich auf 2.2 rating pusht :D?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      leider nein :D

  • @Tehijah
    @Tehijah Год назад

    eso es realmente 2300 rating?, son pesimos xd

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      english pls, chatbox shows mmr 2342 first game 1:01 but its also low with ret/dk cause raiting inflation so is normal, rest of games is higher mmr

  • @knwgt5426
    @knwgt5426 Год назад

    Is it too late to level a DK and get into arena ?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад +1

      nono :D its not, if you level now you can farm some gear before season 6 end and play s7/s8 until the year ends or bit longer

  • @heyiamsven
    @heyiamsven Год назад +1

    braindead op class

    • @broy504
      @broy504 Год назад +2

      not false but 3.3.5a they were dogshit so let them enjoy it now :D

  • @hvdiv17
    @hvdiv17 Год назад

    Here is a weapon swap macro for 2hd burst i have come up with in the equipslot 16 add what ever your 2hd weapon is then spam the macro for the castsequence and make sure you add your proper ranks in the castsequence macro are i made this macro on my dk alt.
    /cast Blood Fury(Racial)
    /use 14
    /cast Deathchill
    /cast Unbreakable Armor
    /cast Blood Tap
    /equipslot 16 add 2hd weapon here
    /castsequence reset=4 Howling Blast(Rank 2),Obliterate(Rank 2),Frost Strike(Rank 4)
    here is a weapon swap macro to go back to dw after your bust same thing here add what ever your dw weapons are
    /equipslot 16 add dw weapon here
    /equipslot 17 add dw weapon here

  • @StigmaShadow
    @StigmaShadow Год назад

    how do you play DK in classic?

    • @Razoonx
      @Razoonx  Год назад

      have level 55 on server and create DK in Classic Wotlk? :D
      or did u mean how its playable when feral way superior class in 2s and warr aswell in all brackets? xd
      while 1,6 noobs cry all day that DK is op just cause its strong vs noobs and they dont know how to press their buttons hm