Is Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey World Class? (with Carlye Wisel) • FOR YOUR AMUSEMENT
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2024
- Aided by their Magic Broomsticks, Carlye Wisel and The Guys fly into Hogwarts to discuss Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey.
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Went on this at Universal Hollywood - ride broke down multiple times. Afterwards, saw a kid crying - assumed they were having a tantrum. Nope. They were on the ride when it broke down facing the GIANT SPIDERS. Who needs souvenirs when you can take home a brand new phobia?
Was the kid ron Weasley? 😂
We broke down during the giant spiders, I kept my eyes shut the whole time. I'm not even that scared of spiders but it was too much for me! That poor kid.
Why is it always spiders?
Never been on this ride, thank you for making me 1000% sure I don't ever want to go on it.
On the one hand, I feel sorry for that particular kid. On the other hand, I feel like avoiding this kind of thing is why we're getting a "new" Disney thrill ride based on Tabasco sauce with no apparent villain, threat or peril in the story.
That thumbnail with Ryan as a dementor is hilariously disturbing
it was the first thing i saw when i opened my youtube app and it definitely startled me 😂😂
@@laaikapellasurprise! 😮
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got stuck on Forbidden Journey at Islands of Adventure for about 30 minutes in a near upside down position ... I still love this ride.
I got stuck right in front of a giant spider my first time... i'm arachnaphobic. Still like this ride 😂
How did you not get hurt, that sounds dangerous
One or two years after Wizarding World opened in Orlando, our family went on a trip to the US which included Florida, and me and my sister begged to stop by Universal so we could go to Islands of Adventure. We were big fans of Potter, including my mom. Dad has zero interest in any of it, and theme parks in general, but agreed to take us. When we first entered Hogsmeade, even he couldn't stop himself from gasping at the level of scale and detail, which really shows how well they absolutely nailed it.
I just wanna say I know absolutely nothing about rollercoasters or any of that stuff and yet I am still ecstatic when I see a new episode drop. Absolutely obsessed with this podcast 🫶🫶🫶
2 HOUR EPISODE YES PLEASE
The dementor’s kiss effect was definitely a thing in the Orlando version. I wanna say the last time I experienced it working properly was in the mid-2010s. There’s a bright flash during the spiders scene when they take your picture. Also, around the time the ride first opened, you could definitely see way more dementors and their hands would reach out really close to try and grab you.
Edit: Want to also add that the floo powder scene at the beginning originally was an animation of traveling through a brick fireplace chimney rather than the weird green light.
The first time the kiss effect at UO didn’t work for me, it replaced only my face with a skull and left my ridemates. I was positive it was an omen of my death lmao.
Ryan’s argument is compelling…and then I remembered this guy also ranked All Purpose Flour as #3 in one of the Top 10 Beatdowns
I've never been to a Universal park nor am I a HP fan but this podcast always makes great background noise at work (and Ryan and Byron's enthusiasm is lowkey contagious)
😂😂😂😂 Ryan getting mad about Hagrid letting a dragon loose and the Wizarding world being "so scarey" made me think Hufflepuff 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s the biggest hufflepuff, he needs to embrace it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love all the houses haha I feel like there should always be balance and diversity in life. However; that sounds like a Hufflepuff trying to sell Hufflepuff 🤣
I look forward to this podcast far too much
Always worth noting that a lot of the authenticity in the land that Universal promised in order to please the author involved making the land extremely difficult for guests in wheelchairs to access.
that's insane. you really think Rowling hates crippled people and asked universal to make it harder for them? And you also think they complied with these outrageous demands? I'm pretty sure the ADA would have something to say about that lol some people are loonier than a tune
Wow my reply got nuked. There’s no way this is even remotely true. The Americans with disabilities act strictly dictates how entrances to public buildings look and that there be a handicap accessible entrance. It’s insane to think this. JK Rowling doesn’t hate handicapped people.
Not a surprise from she who will not be named
This is so insane. Can’t believe people actually believe this
@@zacharyeversole If you don’t believe me you can try fitting a wheelchair through any of the shop doors in Hogsmeade yourself.
Ryan may be pleased to know that I DID get ads in my ad breaks this time, lol
as a hufflepuff, i immediately clocked ryan and byron as fellow hufflepuffs. don’t fight it guys😂
Can I also say how much I really appreciate how the guys really hear out their guests? Ryan doesn't back down on his opinions about screens etc immediately, but they also never rag on guests or remain rigid about what's 'good and bad'. The experience of an attraction like this is multifaceted- there's tech components, but also theming and emotion, and I think they strike a good balance of understanding that and are eager to look at these works from all angles.
Harry Potter land is great, but RIP Dueling Dragons. Rest in power, king.
Edit: Dueling Dragons’ queue was absolutely insane.
Hargrids imo is a great replacement to that ride
I still miss Dueling Dragons to this day but I’m not upset with Hargrids as the replacement. A different argument could be made with Fast and Furious replacing my beloved Disaster Studios ride 😂
I went opening week and everyone was in line for the castle so we just rerode and rerode dueling dragons! It was amazing
This was my first roller coaster ever! RIP
1:12:20 The screen looks like it has dimension because the scene follows the perceived eyeline of the riders. It was filmed using motion controlled rigs that the actors react to.
As the ride car moves through the physical space of the set, the film 'distorts' to cause what our eyes/minds perceive as a parallax effect.
You can notice this same effect used (to a lesser degree) by the mosasaur on Jurassic World. It's not as picture perfect there because the rafts move at a random interval. Whereas here, the ride vehicle is moving at the precise speed and motion that the film was captured.
Next time you go on look back and you'll see the film reset for the next ride vehicle. The whole scene/projection will look turned away from you.
The thumbnail sure did catch me by surprise 💀💀💀
Just wanted to say quick Millenium Falcons code name was Big Bird! 😊
i love this podcast! i especially love being introduced to the guests because it’s a great way to find new theme park creators…especially women!! i’ve always been sad that most of the theme park creators i can find (wonderful as they are!!!) are men, so it’s always exciting to see myself represented
I am not typically motion sick on rides, mostly just when playing video games. But this one is special. I have ridden it twice in my life- the first time I was a teen, and I was nauseous for maybe 3 hours after. But then the second time was a year or two ago and in the years in between I got a lap band surgery. I discovered that something about that (or I suppose it could’ve been life in general) turned already awful nausea into a life ruining, day ending nightmare. I rode it at like 10am on my Universal day and spent literally the rest of the day dry heaving and nausea belching.
I think more than the screens (or in combination with but not in a 50/50 split), the arm thing they seat you in is the problem. It’s essentially swinging and shaking you around like Andy does with the toys at the beginning of Toy Story and I think it shakes me up like a can of soda 😂
Definitely the arm thing fucks you up
As someone who grew up in Miami Florida and went to Disney and universal a million times, I've never planned my trip and I've always had an incredible time. It's always an adventure and my experience is always unique.
As someone who grew up going to hersheypark every summer (and went this summer for wildcat) I'm so hype that it was mentioned in this episode. I know it's not on the disney/universal level of theme parks but I'd love to see an episode featuring a hershey attraction
Same Emily! I just made a similar comment! I was psyched to hear Byron bring up Wild Cats Revenge. The entire time they were talking about “mid queue lockers” I kept saying to myself ‘Wild Cats Revenge” and then of course Byron said it lol
I’m a Hershey gal too! Would love to see them cover Candymonium!
how is wildcat? i have a brother who lives close so i'm thinking of visiting him this year to check it out!
@@blevinsdesigns those lockers are a game changer. No more scrambling before/after the coaster to get your stuff and hoping it's still there. When I saw that you retrieve your stuff from the other side I knew it was genius
@@endless_del I loved it! I used to not like wildcat as much because it was jerky (typical for a wooden coaster, but as I grew up the roughness became less and less enjoyable) and I think they did a great job of smoothing out the ride without compromising what made it fun originally. The line wasn't bad either; I went early in the day and was able to go on twice in 40 min. I hope you make it there!
I've experienced the dementor's kiss effect! it's really cool! I would've thought they would sell you a picture later, which might've been the original plan seeing as there's something like the souvenir photo counter at the exit but idk what happened.
Rode this like ten times when I went to universal LA. The single rider line came in clutch. You miss the castle though so it’s worth going through the long line at least once.
This makes me wonder if disabled park goers with accommodations get to experience the castle. Disabled riders can wait in separate areas with adequate physical and sensory accommodations, but in this case, does that mean they don’t get to see the castle? I mean, accommodations over no accommodations any day, but that would kinda suck if you have to miss such a cool part of the experience.
@@shayne_has_landed2511 I believe they have an elevator for wheelchair users. So no castle for them.
Please don’t stop making these!
1:06:11 University of Maryland still has a quidditch club!!!
The first time I went on this ride, my friends and I didnt know what to expect. One friend didnt know anything about Harry Potter and when we got to the spiders she screamed so hard she fainted.
I love Ryan's way with words! Always a delight to listen to these pods.
Genuinely this podcast is amazing. I love theme park content but am also kind of picky when it comes to it, but this podcast found a perfect little idea with two very interesting guys that is just such a joy to watch. The two of you having so much experience and joy with the parks and rides, it's awesome. The whole world class rubric and structure of the show beforehand is perfect for education and prompting fun discussion. I'm praying you continue this trend of longer episodes, because I can't get enough. And for the love of God, keep this thing going for as long as y'all can!
This is the ride that made me love Universal. I went there for a marching band trip and my friend took me on this ride. I asked her what the ride was like because she had been on it before. Knowing I’m a pretty big Disney Head, she told me “It’s kinda like Peter Pan”. After getting off the ride I can safely say it was definitely not like Peter Pan lmao. But I loved every second of Forbidden Journey while I was on it. Me and the rest of my family are going to Universal this spring and I’m so excited to go on this ride, but I’m even more excited to see my dad and brother go on it for the first time.
Never been so happy to get ads! I hope this pod never ends!
Went on this ride when I was a kid and distinctly remember yelling “HARRY!” Waiting for him to “save” us from the dementors, eyes closed the whole time. Super scary but I loved it
I'm glad Carlye mentioned the seat / strap sizing issue
I've never been to universal, but I had heard this was a problem at universal (like it is at a lot of theme parks) & as a fat person I don't ever plan on going to universal because of it
& it's a big reason why I've never been a rollercoaster person cause most generic thrill rides are even worse about their sizing
the first time I went to a Disney park I did a lot of googling to figure out what the sizing was like & finding websites where people collected info & measurements on seats & things, luckily for me Disney seems to be the most inclusive when it comes to sizing on rides & I didn't have any issues
Lovely to hear Garrett is doing well. I loved the series where he would stay in different houses.
I am someone who does not care at all about theme parks, Disney, etc but I tune in every single week because i love to see Ryan and Byron's enthusiasm, humour, and friendship and this podcast genuienly makes me so happy to listen to in a way I can't explain. Never stop making this podcast guys ❤
1 hour 54 minutes! Love it! Keep em coming!
Only my love of this podcast could get me to click on any HP content. Thank you Ryan for calling out what we were all thinking at the top. It's appreciated.
Oh yes we must bow down to WOKE ,CANCEL CULTURE CRAP.Jk Rowling is a legend she had the guts to say what the rest of the Sane people are thinking.
their outro music scratches my brain perfectly
Ryan you've outdone yourself with this thumbnail.
This is my new favorite podcast! The highlight of my week
I love this podcast please keep this going!!
I love how you guys don't pick sides in the whole "Disney Vs. Universal Parks" debate. I also think that both parks push each other to do better, and that ever since the 2010s started it's been a back and forth over which will innovate next.
Loving this podcast!
Love this podcast and ive binged most past episodes already.
I love this podcast. It's such a fun breath of fresh air for me.
I rode this ride in CA one time. It was during a huge rainstorm so the park was almost empty. We practically walked on. Sadly, it meant we didn't get to experience much of the line since we walked through so fast 😢.
I rode the ride opening day in Orlando and I remember touching a dementor’s hand with my foot and it freaked me out so much, but also the projection with your face being sucked out was a thing as well, I thought it was horrifying but now it’s just skulls 😂
OHHHH IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
An episode on Galactic Starcruiser would wreck the internet.
Yes, and bring Carlye back since she went before and after it opened!
Two hours!!!! What a nice way to spend an afternoon
Here's a fun fact, this is the only ride that has ever made me motion sick.
As someone who one time covered quidditch while espn ocho was in town. Yes they run around with a stick between their legs and yes they are somehow zooming. It was incredible entertaining for some reason
I hated this ride, felt sick the whole time. It ended up breaking down like 2-3 times and then the screens stopped working (turned off) so we had to close our eyes to prevent getting even more ill. Loved the atmosphere and queue though minus the locker sitch.
Locker is easy and effective and omg I felt sick the whole time too after the first 40 sec, closed my eyes trying to enjoy it
@@Matterz25 You actually reminded me, we couldn’t get one of the lockers to open for some reason so we had to find an employee so that they could open it for us. Not a good experience…
All the insights in this podcast were really interesting. I never got into Harry Potter, and I’ve never been on this ride, but all theme park fans have benefited from this attraction- the competition that it fostered has created so many wonderful lands and attractions. Thanks for discussing the ride system and tech, and showing diagrams. Another great episode!!
I love this pod!
I was there opening month of Universal Orlando’s and the kiss effect was very much working and wild!
Idc what the final score is, I love this ride lol. I went to Universal Hollywood for the first time for my 13th birthday in 2017, and it's important to mention I was a HUGE HP fan at the time. So naturally going on a ride based on one of my fav franchises was exciting enough, but I had truly never experienced anything like it before. You couldn't tell me I didn't just go on the best ride of my life, and I honestly think it's still one of the coolest ride experiences I've had. Yeah there are screens (which I don't really have a problem with tbh cause the ride vehicles are those crazy 360 things), but I feel like there's a good balance between those and the massive set pieces like the Whomping Willow and the entrance to the Chamber of Secrets. My mom and I got express passes for the day and we rode it 4 times cause we loved it so much (it only broke down at the very end of our final ride, so I got really lucky)
What makes me sick is that we are moving sideways while the screen is pretending we are moving forward. I would rather they dial back the screens a bit on Harry Potter and put us on forward facing brooms that don’t move as much even if we had to see a bit of extra machine in front of us.
Oh, recreational quidditch is DEFINITELY running around with an actual broom 😂
This ride is what made me hate screens in rides, really and truly. I have never hated an experience more. The movement WITH the the screens gave me such a bad headache that it made the rest of the day worse because we started at the HP world and I had the starts of a migraine for the rest of the day lmfaooo HOWEVER . I'm so excited for a 2 hour ep :)
I'm totally with you there. The screens never felt that immersive to me and no other ride at Universal made me feel nauseous as this one did. Fortunately I had the time to get over it while watching Waterworld afterwards :)
@@mrbrainly I WISH it had been open, it's the one show that has never been available while I was there lmfaooo I think I did the Mummy after this? which was a massive mistake
Let’s gooooo
Good work boys
I always listen on Spotify on my way to work, but am home today so watching instead. And I just wanted to say that I’m not a die-hard theme park person, but I love this podcast. I’ve been on most of the rides bc I’ve been going to Disney since a kid. And I’m a huge HP nerd, so I went to Universal the summer it opened. But this podcast is so fun and eye-opening. And I know you joke a lot about how no one is watching/listening, but I am and I hope you keep going bc I love it. Can’t wait to go to Disney or universal next time I’m home (live in Australia now but from LA) and appreciate the theme parks so much more.
the dementor's kiss effect did work the single time i got to go on this ride!!! it was so cool
Right before COVID, I remember waiting in line for this ride at Universal Hollywood next to this guy around my age (late 20s at the time) who was clearly from out of state, here on vacation, and super amped excited to get on this ride. I heard him tell his partner that he's a huge harry potter fan. I was sat near/next to him and all I could hear was him say was "omg i'm gonna throw up. i'm gonna throw up." I remember walking behind him as he got off the ride and heard him say "oh my god what a let down. i was feeling like i was gonna throw up the whole time." I felt really bad for him.
This ride is horrifying, it makes really good use of something alien encounter did where it knows you're locked in so it can just fuck around and bring stuff really really close.
Re: Ryan's comment about how in the HP universe, dragons must be like dogs.
Dragons in their universe are basically like how we treat something like a tiger, in that they're very rare but if you do ever happen to encounter one, be prepared to die. Like tigers, dragons in the HP universe are untameable and the only time wizards/witches get near them is to corral them to a preserve or sanctuary. It's kind of an anomaly for one to be put in a coliseum type setting like in Goblet.
Went on this in Orlando in 2010. The queue lasted for 3 hours cause the ride kept breaking down. Fun though, quickest 3 hours of my life
I have seen the dementors kiss effect a couple of times! But it was so long ago that I thought I had imagined it!
Ahhh I've worked at FJ for three years and it's such a special ride!
It's the only ride in the world like it, except the copies of itself. At least in Orlando we are the only attractions team that has to be trained how to clean up vomit, because it happens so often. (a custodian TM or higher up TM cleans everywhere else). The queue is such a draw for the ride so much so that when the ride is experiencing an extended down time we open the queue for guests to walk through! It's the highest capacity ride in the park, only challenged by velocicoaster. On a slow day earlier this week for the 6 hours I was at work over 14,000 guests while most other attractions were seeing about 8,000. It is a people eater for sure.
I love ryan’s newfound obsession with the THEA awards
Genuinely was so confused when I saw the thumbnail, i was like “ dude where is Ryan in this thumbnail?” Then I realized. He was the ghoul in the corner the whole time
Spoilers, I guess, for other episodes rankings?
This is the 2nd 9/10 ranking FYAPOD has given out, after Waterworld. Ties are ranked in episode order. I tried to list if multiple theme parks were mentioned, but I may have misremembered.
**WORLD CLASS PASS**
10/10 - Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway (DL/ Hollywood Studios)
10/10 - Rise of the Resistance (DL/ Hollywood Studios)
*9/10 - Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey (multiple Universal theme parks)
9/10 - Waterworld: A Live Sea War Spectacular (Universal Hollywood)
8/10 - Haunted Mansion (Multiple Disney theme parks)
8/10 - Radiator Springs Racers (California Adventure)
8/10 - E.T. Adventure - (Universal Orlando)
8/10 - Soarin’ Over California (California Adventure / EPCOT, seasonal / defunct)
7/10 - Jurassic World: The Ride (Universal Hollywood/ IoA)
7/10 - Space Mountain (Multiple Disney theme parks)
7/10 - GhostRider (Knott’s Berry Farm)
7/10 - People Mover (Magic Kingdom, defunct at DL)
7/10 - Matterhorn Bobsleds (DL)
**NOT WORLD CLASS**
6/10 - Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (DL, defunct at MK)
4/10 - Monsters Inc (California Adventure)
4/10 - Transformers: The Ride (multiple Universal theme parks) (2 .5 ratings)
Hufflepuffs are all the stoners lowkey
As a Florida kid I actually went to the opening in 2010 and I can confirm the line was massive! It completely circled around the park starting at Lost Continent into Suess land to Marvel Island onwards until you got to the bridge to enter it was actually insane and I’m so thankful my mom waited in the line while me and my sister got to goof off at different rides until it was time.
I do remember the dementor effect working the first few years of opening, I’ve seen it a few times right before COVID but not since and never consistently.
As a Floridian, I was all too familiar with the theme parks in Orlando (I got annual passes for my bday) that having something new was so thrilling, that being said Epic Universe will completely blow my mind when it opens 😂
In conclusion if y’all have any questions about how opening weeks of either HP lands went I have first hand experience.
I also remember going in 2010 and the line starting by the entrance of the Jurassic area and they even opened up the line to see the backlot of the building
Thank you for mentioning this ride is not universal. I was not able to ride this ride due to my bust. (Also why I was excited to hear about the ride I couldn’t ride to know what it would have been like) They were very nice about the situation so that did make me feel better at that moment. But this did discourage me to even try some rides while I was there.
Your chest is that big?
I can confirm the dementor's kiss was a thing in Orlando. But in recent years it's just been generic skulls. But when it worked it was a pretty neat effect.
I was made to take off my glasses on Velocicoaster, too. I hated that. I was essentially walking blind the rest of the way to the ride and afterward, and couldn't enjoy myself
As someone who grew up reading/watching these movies I LOVED this ride. I didn't go on it for the first time until I was I was 19 or 20. The next time I went on them was a couple years later when I was prone to having anxiety attacks and I actually had one on this ride during the dementor scene. I kept having to repeat to myself, "This isn't real. They can't hurt you." But that makes me love the ride more because that means it's so realistic!
I’d rather it be a people mover or boat ride than me get sick every time I ride it.
Most people don’t know you can just do a walk through of the castle (where you get to bypass the line and/or take your time and pace) and not ride the ride.
I went to the opening day at Orlando and we waited eight hours to ride it! The line stretched all the way outside of the park past the Hard Rock Cafe😅
I remember seeing Dementors Kiss fog projection work in Orlando back in 2018 I when my wife and I went for the first time. I believe it worked once more when we went the next year in 2019 but since then we have gone back every year and never have seen it work again.
Just started the podcast and the answer is yes in my heart
I’ve been to IAAPA! It’s like being a kid in a candy store for a theme park nerd. You guys should go this year. Some of the exhibitors have mini rides you can test out.
The kiss of death effect worked in 2019, cant recall if it was when I was there for HHN 32 in Orlando. It’s pretty simple tech, one dementor has a camera in its mouth, that photo of you is projected quickly after.
2 hours? hell yeah :D
I went on this ride in 2015 and barely remember anything because I closed my eyes for maybe 70% of it 😆. I love rollercoasters, but screen rides can give me motion sickness, and I don't like jump scares. My dad really enjoyed it though lol
Funny they mention it bc I almost lost my phone on this ride the first time I rode it! I learned my lesson.
I'm glad the inclusiveness was mentioned. This was the first and only time I'd ever been kicked off of a ride for my size. It was such a humiliating experience.
My best friends first time riding this ride was also the first time he learned he had the screen motion sickness gene lol. He was on the leftmost seat at UO, and when we got off he was keeled over on the conveyor belt 😭 his words on it were "it was really the dragon vaping on me that did me in"
I was fortunate to experience the Dementor’s kiss effect but I always looked like Eric the Actor 🤣
loved this episode! carlye was such an entertaining and lovely guest. also, thank you to carlye for bringing up universal's ride vehicles. I've heard so many stories about folks being unable to fit into a majority of universal's ride vehicles, especially compared to disney. i think this would be a good factor to consider for the average tourist test...if a large percentage of people physically can't get on the ride, can it be worthy of a pass? something to think about!
Love this ride!! Pretty sure the dementor effect still works at Orlando? I’ve ridden multiple times and do remember seeing my face - it’s not that scary. I do remember waiting for like 3 hours when it first opened though - that line was loooong and the dementors were way scarier back then
I actually got to see the dementors kiss work in Orlando and it FREAKED ME OUT- I really thought I made it up because I never saw it after that first trip (which must’ve been within a year of its opening)
Talking about wait times and not wanting to wait 60 minutes….The waittime at the USJ in Japan even with an express pass was about 2 hours fyi 💀 without was 3 hours
We went into Ollivander’s knowing we would buy a wand but was thrilled when my son got picked. Took a few tries for my nephew to get his turn. Love the Wizarding World, my son knows the books and movies inside and out.
Wait. Back to the Future was a whole screen...
I’m really glad she brought up the lack of inclusion with this ride. My family went years ago and we were all huge HP fans, so everyone was so excited for this ride. We got to the loading zone and my dad didn’t fit in the seat. Riding it without him was super disappointing and really ruined the whole experience for us. Universal needs to do better
No they don't.
I'd definitely say this ride fails that Fine Wine test purely because the whole IP of Harry Potter has aged poorly due to the outbursts from the creator and the subsequent cultural reevaluation it recieved. I'll never be able to look at it the same without some icky feelings arising.
I was thinking this too! It’s surprising to me to see continued investment in the IP but that’s capitalism for ya
Find some real actual problems to be pressed about. LMAO
I mean you can always separate the artists opinions from the art, if her opinion on subjects bothers you that much.