30 grains of Pyrodex is a standard load for pistols - far from max. A max load is a function of how much room there is in the cylinder. You do hear people advising lighter charges, but that's for brass framed guns. Steel framed guns like you are using can use as much black powder or substitute as you can fit in the cylinder and still seat the ball.
I have heard advisory for Colts, unless ya load conical, which normally takes the extra space. Although, normally it’s enough to shoot distance & accuracy ya need. A 5.5” barrel isn’t going to get as much burn use as 8” barrel. So use critical thinking for loading up.
I've been using pilots like this since the 70s.They were originally created for caseless ammo.They had a piece of lead on the end of it.And they would feed into a gun and electric spark would set them off.Then they started making them out of black powder.For guns, I love them easy to carry.Easy to batch up and glow with the wind doesn't affect you.When you're loading them , they've got aten for rifles all kinds of stuff
Very cool. I found these at my local range last week and was curious about them. Im "not with the times " yet as i only have 3/7 for my Colt 1860 3rd gen but hey, if that stuff gives good reliability and comparable velocity (made by the same company) Ill try it out. My Colt is my EDC (felon in NC) so thats what im relegated to carrying at the moment. Any chance of getting it chronographed?
Instead of using grease, I use felt over powder wads. They work better, and don't gunk up the revolver. Been doing it that way for 30+ years. Those Pellets look interesting. I may have to try some. For conical bullets, I will use a 30 grain charge of 3F powder. But for round ball, I take that down to 25 grains. Not as much smoke, because all the powder burns in the barrel. I fire a Rugar Old Army cap and ball revolver. Which I use as a back up when hunting.
I’ve been wondering how many grains was packed in a .45lc just hadn’t looked it up yet thank you. I keep saying max charge in the video when I mean to say max “recommended” charge
Think you need to go back to school on those black powder loads, as a 30 grain load was a standard military issue load by the U.S. Ordinance department for all .44 caliber cap and ball revolvers. As that is what they determined provided the most efficient powder load, to provide the most loads and accuracy for one pound of gun powder. It is far from the max load for any .44 caliber C&B revolver. As I can load 40 grains in my 1860 Army with a round ball, and 35 grains with a conical in that same gun. And do about 40 grains with a conical in my 1858 Remington New Model Army, and would shot a full 55 grains in my Colt Walker just never felt comfortable with a full 60 grains in that one. Now mind you I do run less then 35 with Pyrodex P, unless I’m hunting as that stuff is a little funny with being compressed compared to real black powder. But still never less than 30 grains if I’m shooting, and that’s even if I’m plinking.
Interesting video. I have been a BP shooter since 1979. Having never used a substitute powder, could you enlighten me on whether or not these substitutes are corrosive ?
They are INCREDIBLY corrosive. More so than actual blackpowder. They are also mildly tougher to clean out. Not drastically but noticeable. The only actual benefit I’ve found using a substitute is they don’t have the intense sulphur smell and are generally widely available over actual black powder
@@BigBoyRabbit420 Thank you. I am fortunate that I have always had access to real BP. And I assumed wrongly, that the substitutes were noncorrosive, and that is why they were on the market.
I’m glad I could help a little. They exist because of the shipping and storage requirements of black powder. Stores can store it without having to do a bunch of special safety stuff.
I can run upto 60 grs in my 3rd model dragoon but I generally run 45 gr as thats the most accurate with round balls. Haven't tryed conicals yet, or K. Iwojimas bullet either, but down the road I'm going to. But I carry it for a backup for hunting, so we will see.
I haven’t actually fired any conicals yet. Just got done making some. Took a while to figure out my pouring and rolling techniques. I’m still learning black powder. Tons of fun lots of errors. I’m only using BP right now to conserve cartridges sense the future isn’t looking good for ammo prices
great presentation and i have been ignorant of these preformed pellets , , lookin good , cheers big ears from down under
30 grains of Pyrodex is a standard load for pistols - far from max. A max load is a function of how much room there is in the cylinder. You do hear people advising lighter charges, but that's for brass framed guns. Steel framed guns like you are using can use as much black powder or substitute as you can fit in the cylinder and still seat the ball.
I have heard advisory for Colts, unless ya load conical, which normally takes the extra space. Although, normally it’s enough to shoot distance & accuracy ya need. A 5.5” barrel isn’t going to get as much burn use as 8” barrel. So use critical thinking for loading up.
I kept saying “max load” when I meant max “suggested” load
Unless it’s a colt walker!
Holy fireball!! That’s awesome!!
I've been using pilots like this since the 70s.They were originally created for caseless ammo.They had a piece of lead on the end of it.And they would feed into a gun and electric spark would set them off.Then they started making them out of black powder.For guns, I love them easy to carry.Easy to batch up and glow with the wind doesn't affect you.When you're loading them , they've got aten for rifles all kinds of stuff
That is so cool!
Very cool. I found these at my local range last week and was curious about them. Im "not with the times " yet as i only have 3/7 for my Colt 1860 3rd gen but hey, if that stuff gives good reliability and comparable velocity (made by the same company) Ill try it out. My Colt is my EDC (felon in NC) so thats what im relegated to carrying at the moment. Any chance of getting it chronographed?
I wouldn't forget to take that bag of Crisco out of your pocket before going to a bar.
Why? It might come in handy.
@@1Thatstrangeguy More tea, Vicar ?
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Great video!
Thank you
Good info. What type glue did you use for ball to pellet?
E6000 industrial, same stuff I use for my paper cartridges. Sets fairly quick
Pretty cool, I typically use 25 grains, but what the heck! Mo might be betta!
My paper carts are 25gr unfortunately 30gr is the only option I’m aware of for the preform pellets. However you COULD press your own
Instead of using grease, I use felt over powder wads. They work better, and don't gunk up the revolver. Been doing it that way for 30+ years. Those Pellets look interesting. I may have to try some. For conical bullets, I will use a 30 grain charge of 3F powder. But for round ball, I take that down to 25 grains. Not as much smoke, because all the powder burns in the barrel. I fire a Rugar Old Army cap and ball revolver. Which I use as a back up when hunting.
Maybe put a little fine smokeless powder into the hollow core to make a clean burning duplex load.
I use 45 grains packed tight. That's what the 45 colt load was
I’ve been wondering how many grains was packed in a .45lc just hadn’t looked it up yet thank you. I keep saying max charge in the video when I mean to say max “recommended” charge
Think you need to go back to school on those black powder loads, as a 30 grain load was a standard military issue load by the U.S. Ordinance department for all .44 caliber cap and ball revolvers. As that is what they determined provided the most efficient powder load, to provide the most loads and accuracy for one pound of gun powder. It is far from the max load for any .44 caliber C&B revolver. As I can load 40 grains in my 1860 Army with a round ball, and 35 grains with a conical in that same gun. And do about 40 grains with a conical in my 1858 Remington New Model Army, and would shot a full 55 grains in my Colt Walker just never felt comfortable with a full 60 grains in that one. Now mind you I do run less then 35 with Pyrodex P, unless I’m hunting as that stuff is a little funny with being compressed compared to real black powder. But still never less than 30 grains if I’m shooting, and that’s even if I’m plinking.
lol I made a mild speaking error friend I kept saying “max load” when I meant max “suggested” load
Howdy!
What a lot of smoke blowing! Oh, the bp guns do puff off some smoke also, lol.
Jokes aside, does ignite faster rate with the hole?
It’s incredibly consistent. Haven’t seen any flaming half pellets come flying out the barrel yet
Interesting video. I have been a BP shooter since 1979. Having never used a substitute powder, could you enlighten me on whether or not these substitutes are corrosive ?
They are INCREDIBLY corrosive. More so than actual blackpowder. They are also mildly tougher to clean out. Not drastically but noticeable. The only actual benefit I’ve found using a substitute is they don’t have the intense sulphur smell and are generally widely available over actual black powder
@@BigBoyRabbit420 Thank you. I am fortunate that I have always had access to real BP. And I assumed wrongly, that the substitutes were noncorrosive, and that is why they were on the market.
I’m glad I could help a little. They exist because of the shipping and storage requirements of black powder. Stores can store it without having to do a bunch of special safety stuff.
If you use .454” balls, you don’t need all that crisco on top of your rounds. A lubed patch between the charge and ball works well too
1,000% you are correct. Actually the only reason I use it is because it’s free for me and it actually makes cleaning it extremely fast
I can run upto 60 grs in my 3rd model dragoon but I generally run 45 gr as thats the most accurate with round balls. Haven't tryed conicals yet, or K. Iwojimas bullet either, but down the road I'm going to. But I carry it for a backup for hunting, so we will see.
I haven’t actually fired any conicals yet. Just got done making some. Took a while to figure out my pouring and rolling techniques. I’m still learning black powder. Tons of fun lots of errors. I’m only using BP right now to conserve cartridges sense the future isn’t looking good for ammo prices
@@BigBoyRabbit420 Could you use these in a .45 Colt case?
Loose granule powder is a pain in the ass and messy.
Pellets are so much easier to load.
I don't think you can max out on Purodex on account of its really weak
I kept saying max charge I meant max “recommended” charge lol