How Do You Treat Sciatica & Spondylolisthesis? (At the Same TIme)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- "Famous" Physical Therapists Bob Schrupp and Brad Heineck discuss what treatments one can do if you have both sciatica and spondylolisthesis at the same time.
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I had years of pain with my shoulders. Did the hanging bar and haven't had any problems since. Also helps my back. Can't thank you enough.
Glad your shoulders are better. Thank you for your message.
great video! I have spondylolisthesis and had a spinal fusion 10 months ago, and this is spot-on. my PT was actually the one who discovered my spondy. my slip was unstable so ultimately I went ahead with the fusion to stabilize my spine and prevent further nerve damage. I recently started PT again to address some issues with my SI joint. I'm documenting my recovery on my RUclips channel and blog, if you're ever interested in a first-hand perspective on recovering from a spinal fusion... :)
physicaltherapyvideo oh, sorry! My blog is www.mommyrunsit.com. RUclips is @mommyrunsit.
I've went from running 4 miles per day to not being able to get off my couch. I'm hoping to get my surgery soon. I'm having a hard time dealing with not being able to move.
I started 10 years ago with a bulging/herniated disk. Now, I've been diagnosed with Spondy. This video was very informative. With the bulging/herniated disc with siatica pain I was doing in physical therapy the lay flat on stomach and pushing up on forarm. Now with this video I know not to do it anymore. I'll do the exercises you've shown on this video and others for Spony. Thanks guys.
Thanks for all your videos. I have spondylolistis pain for 2 years. Apparently been there a long time without symptoms. Been doing PT for 2 years plus swimming and walking. Have improved but still struggling with it especially at work. Hearing from Brad gives me hope. Deciding on fusion. Brad, I was wondering how long you have had spondylolistis and what age you got it. Also wondering if you know of any studies of long term outcomes after fusion v conservative. I used to be strong like bull but those days seem over. Have been watching you a while before finding out about Brad. Can be a lonely struggle but Brad you have given me hope. It means a lot. Tony from Australia
hi guys, I’m having another flare up so it’s always nice to come back and have your videos help me😊
I have both, it sucks trying to treat it, My PT made me hurt worse.
Inversion is absolutely NOT recommended for spondylolisthesis. It can cause it to become more unstable. I had a grade 3 slip at L5-S1 with pars fracture. Please do not do inversion if you have a fracture of the pars interinticularis, the most common cause of spondy.
Please tell me do you have a solution?
I’m so glad I didn’t get Disk Decompression I have spondylistheis and DDD and sciatica! I’m looking for a good pt
Thanks guys for another informative video. I've naturally been doing the bar hanging exercise for years to relieve my symptoms. Glad I've been some exercises correctly as I have both spondylolisthesis at L5-S1 and reoccurring sciatica most days Atm in my right leg, which as you say one needs flexion and the other needs extension so this video may help with the chair exercise. I'll give this traction exercise a try to see if that helps.
So grateful thank you I have grade 4 L5-S-1 miserable but you have given me relief 🥰
Had a MRI done,,I'm pretty messed up. I have grade 2 spondylolisthesis , terrible pain,,plus L5-S1 grade 1.
I've a leaky disc T1- T2.
Multi degenerative changes, spinal stenosis, ,other things. Barely can walk- use cane with my rollator. They wanna do a back epidural in a month and then--talking about major surgery!
I might as well die now!
Pain clinic -took them 11 days to get my pain meds prescribed to me! I believe in one step at a time. Feeling overwhelmed 😕... 70 yrs old,,surgery will prolly kill me! Doctor too pushy!
I just needed something stronger then tramadol...My right leg about buckles down on me! Prolly need a wheel chair at" home,,,every Doc appt- they put me in a wheelchair!
Not sure what to do anymore 😕!
Great video! Have spondylolisthesis and sciatica and frustrated with constant pain that limits activities. Appreciate these tips - hope!
Hi bob & brad.. thank you for making a video which explains my exact position!... its so helpful for me.. I've watched a lot of your videos as I'm ken to understand what is happening and how treat it, thank you for making the learning process light hearted and easy to understand!.. BTW aswell as having grade 1 spondylolethesis l5/s1 & disc bulge at l4/l5 I also have some sort of gluteul issue which i believe is Piriformis scar tissue (I fell off a bike onto my left side, big bruise but no pain until 3 weeks after, now the whole area is really tight and tender to stretch and rubbing sciatic nerve so I think possible scar tissue) your videos are really helpful .. THANKYOU!
Oh and BTW I'm on hydromorphone contin 4.5 mg x2 per day Pregablin 100mg x2 per day and hydromorphone 4mg 4 -6x per day for the pain.
I've gotten a Lot of relief by 'hanging' in the local YMCA's therapy pool. I support my arms on a pool noodle and and float vertically until the pain goes away. Then I float towards the shallow end, slooooowly making contact with the floor of the pool & returning my weight to my feet gradually as I walk the width of the pool. (perpendicular to the slope)
Most times, when I can take the time to do this slowly enough, I can reduce pain that's a 10 on the 10 to 1 scale, down to a 2 or 3.
There are a few factors in ways to treat sciatica. One place I found which succeeds in merging these is the Zats Back Blueprint (check it out on google) without a doubt the most incredible resource i've heard of. Check out the amazing information .
Question, can chronic sciatica heal if you have spondylolisthesis or is surgery the only solution?
Pls recommend best loving therapy clinic thats not factory-like in nyc. No longer live near first.
Currently dealing with spondy and sciatica. I was just diagnosed Grade 1 and the sciatica has been physically limiting. I exercise 10 hours a week most of that is cardio so this has really been just as mentally challenging as physically. I'm still working out but most of my cardio is on the stair climber. I can't run or ride. I've been hanging from things and that has been the best treatment of anything. I look weird because I'll just grab a rafter in my house or building, but it works. I get better results from hanging than pushing.
Im hoping you see this as you wrote it two years ago. I have spondylothesis 1 and horrific sciatica from a herniated disc. Does the handing help you? I am weak in my upper body but was wondering if the nerve pain leaves for a while after you hang. My husband has a pull up bar that my toes can touch the floor but ive only done it once because Ive very scared to hurt the top of my back as well as my right bottom side. Thank you
@@angiebutcher4068 Hey!! Yes it does help. In fact I would touch my toes while hanging on purpose. It allows my back to float. Tried an inversion table but it wasn’t that great . The bigger thing that has helped me was chiro and not lifting weights over my head. And then good core exercises and cobra pose. For medications, Aleve works the best. Hopefully you get relief soon.
@@alexgonzalezMI wow thanks for replying. I have a small cyst as well and the chiropractor not intentionally would make it flare horrifically. I’m finding that Alpha lipoid acid is a supplement that helps calm the nerve down. I am going for a neurosurgeon consult in June but hopefully will get to cancel it.
@@angiebutcher4068 Hi Angie, did the neurosurgeon help you, were you able to have surgery, and did it help?
Hey Alex are you able to run now ?
sir iam 23yrs old suffering from disc bulge at l5-s1, sciatica and cervical spondolysis.
sir please help wht to do and kindly suggest some exercises.
your previous videos are about l4-l5 kindly make a video for l5 s1 also..
please help
thnks for replying....
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is spondylithestis curable...which one is better swimming or walking or running....
Thanks for Your help
Thoughts on decompression table?
l have this problem. The exercises only make it worse. I was wondering how could bending in any direction help. I was planning to have bar to hang on. The video has motivated me all the more. Thanks.
How are u now
Thank you so much for great video sir will you please guide me which belt i have to use
First, I enjoy the video. Second, I have spondylolisthesis with arthritis, can you recommend some exercises that will help the back?
I just moved onto a sailboat and have spondylolisthesis. Living on a boat means I have to do a lot of things I typically try to avoid and my pain is increasing. What do you recommend to help ease my pain and be able to do the ever growing list of boat work?
Hey guys,
I love your videos. I have rigid flat fee with accessory naviculars. All the footwear I have seen that are designed for flat feet are for flexible ones. I also have lumbar spinal stenosis. So my. feet and back are in enormous pain. Aside from taking 12 Tylenol a day (what my orthopedist rexommended) do you have any suggestions. My feet throb and my lower back tightens. By the end of the day I am in so much pain.
I really like your videos. Tks so much.😊
I have compressed fractures of the L2, L4 and L5. Grade 1 spondylosis between Land L4, and Grade 2 between L5 and S1. Saw a back specialist but he can't help me except physio referral for back core strengthening. I live alone and heat with wood. My current physiotherapist says that the wood work is counter productive and my back won't get better. Supposedly my back is not damaged enough to operate on and now there's no more monitoring of physio. I kind of feel abandoned by the system. The back specialist says that I have a very weak core (lower back), like that of a 95 yr old woman. what exercises would you recommend or other steps. I also have a couple of degenerative disc in the lumbar area. please provide me with some type of guidance. Tks in advance.
Love it thank you guys...
Please help pain and burning in lower back. Right leg weakness and pelvic pain
Doing water therapy what else can I do in pain all the time. Modic disc changes in L5 S1 . Have no disc in this area.
i didn't realize you guys had a book. sorry if you had mentioned before. I truly love these videos on spodylosisthesis! they always encourage me! Brad, I know you said you can run about 3 miles. But what about riding a bike? Just curious. I haven't been able to ride nine for a few years. I know I've told you before but other then my spondy(grade 1 L4L5S1) I have groin/hip/pelvic issues. so seeing a pelvic floor therapist, massage and acupuncture. and urologist wants me to get some injections in the groin. hoping to over come this so I can get back to pt for my back. I have both a weak multifidus & core. and since my core is weak and I can't access at the moment everything else seems to be failing. but I he not given up hope. I just want to say thank you guys for these videos!
I'm interested in the field, could you do a video about the day to day tasks of a physical therapist?
physicaltherapyvideo Thanks for the reply! & thanks for all the amazing content you two put out, I'm really grateful!
thanks I suggest the next vedio be frozen shoulder because it's commen particularly diabetes ~
Cont. Im experiencing sciatica if im standing n walking bcoz of my grade 1 spondylolesthesis , very painful starting on my pelvis piriformis syndrome like , down to my right foot , tingling n d likes help pls. Im frm d philippines
Have a 6 mm slipped verabrate and in alot of pain what can I do to help ? Doing water therapy.
They are basically opposites. So what to do?
my mom has sciatica and spondylihesis and nw tissue on pelvic xray plz help
Does it apply to a first degree spondylolisthesis or it has to be bigger then that ? By the way it's on the same level then one of my bulging discs
Hi can u help me im so stressed w my spondylolesthesis , im im standing n walking its very painful so i need to sit down or liedown . Done therapies, dorn, chiro once , ploretherapy at d moment 2 session already but still no improvements i dont know where to go now who can treat my problems , pls. Ty
Is walking and excrice bike good 😃
do ya have videos on exercises or how to help the sosas muscle??
Yes lol can't spell
self traction methods at home which you showed physios is for sciatica only or for spondylolisthesis also?
it seems back goes in some extension in these methods,as you told extension is big no no for spondylolisthesis,,,,please remove my confusion,,,,,!
Have you considered fusion surgery yourself?
Hi , I have anterio listhesis grade1 and sciatica , and my doc has recommended something similar to McKenzie and also lying on my stomach .. seperate leg raises (similar to swimming) ..Is this okay to proceed with ?
Hi Sharan, is your spondylolysthesis stable?
How do you get your vertebra to go back into correct position?
Strengthening the muscles in your core that may be too weak, or surgery (particularly in cases where defamation of the vertebrae like wedging are causing the spondylolisthesis)
what about DDD, retrolisthesis, disc herniation, modic I changes, endplate spurs, facet hypertrophy all at L5-S1 with SI joint and hip pain and episodic sciatica? I am told to be more active by all of my doctors, but it hurts to do pretty much anything. Pain is most severe upon waking or prone resting and lessens throughout the day, but never goes away. I am 35 so am told surgery is not a viable option, nor are opioids. I was sent to PT, but the therapist, because i have full range of motion, opted not to have more than one session with me. Besides water sports, are there any safe exercises i can realistically achieve?
Strengthen your core, hips, and all the way up to your neck until you are pure beast, and if that still doesn't help then tell them obviously you need kyphoplasty
I have spondylolisthesis. Which type physiotherapy.. l5 S1. S1 move back.
Give me u r mail id. Can i send my x-ray. I am from imdia