@@dominicviner6619Very often it’s about how the recipients themselves view other cultures. A person that treats others with respect would tend to view these actions as good gestures, because even if it’s not correct or optimal, what matters is you tried and showed that you care. A person that treats others with hostility would try to pick things to be offended about to justify their hostility
@@dominicviner6619Nobody in America is worried about offending others or we wouldn't have created the word zipper head to call Asians 🤣 look up Stephen Crowder Chinese impression where he goes to China town doing the most overtly racist Chinese impression that's the type of bs mfs talk about
I like the videos when I guy dressed as a "mexican" goes to bunch of white college kids and asks if this is offensive and they all say yes, then goes to immigrants from mexico and asks the same question and they say no. Some people just want to be offended and don't understand that a lot of it is dependent on intent and understanding of that culture.
@@Resmundyeah just don’t be disrespectful or demeaning to the peoples cultures your indulging into. Like we can tell when someone is doing it for fun/respect compared to someone doing it with racist/hateful intents.
This would be a boss move. The kimono given as a gift shows sincerity. The tea shows sophistication and anticipation of need. The prior planning shows due diligence and the cultural understanding means he anticipated that the client would be 45min early and was ready to provide efficient, stream-lined bespoke service He’s worth his retainer
As an on-call automation engineer that regularly has multi-hour troubleshooting sessions with the largest plants in the country, where hundreds, sometimes thousands of people are waiting on your solution to get back to work... I wish I could serve tea for the retainer he would be getting.
Maybe, but it is bs. Why would someone show up 45 minutes early to a meeting? That's not polite at all (I've been in Japan for 15 years). And that's not at all a kimono, but whatever. It's just a script for a TV show.
Bro made tea and everything he had good intentions all around and did it to help the Japanese businessman feel comfortable. It worked cause he proved he did his work and would do what is needed to make a client comfortable.
Yes. It worked because he wasn't making a low effort stereotypical pandering, but instead showcased true and deep knowledge about japenese culture, traditions, culture and etiquette (at least within the universe of the show, i don't know if it is a 1 to 1 representation of real life). And his interlocutor who is obviously very knowledgeable about it was able to identify that it was knowledge and respect instead of a lazy and ignorant pandering. While the scene is probably a bit extra, this mindset is very useful in real life, especially in competitive fields as it can set you apart from competitors who dod not take the time to do proper research
@@docomega7862I like how you stated "low effort stereotypical pandering" and later the "lazy and ignorant pandering" in parts of your comment. It's perfect wording to describe and an example of something I recently saw. Im not sure when exactly it was from, but it was Hilary Clinton doing an interview with 2 African American interviewers who asked her what is an item she never leaves home without. Her answer was Hot Sauce like she was trying to identify with the black culture and win the hearts (and votes) of the hosts and their listeners. It was so fake and so ackward. They even called her out on it and she asked if it was working. I would use your words to describe that situation perfectly.
@@commonsensei0214 this indeed is a blantant example of low effort pandering. Granted, not being american myself i don't know much about african american culture, but it seems to me that there are probably other more relevant stuff than hot sauce. Even if i'm wrong and hot sauce is culturally very important, we all know she doesn't leave home with it. To me, this shows either deep ignorance or complete lack of respect since you either assume that your 10 seconds google search is enough to understand the culture, or that they will be too dumb to pick up on your bullshit and call tou out for it. I have the opposite example. During one of my internships, i was in a team prepping an official meeting with a representative of another country, meeting that took place over a buffet. And we took quite a bit of time to research what were the traditions of the country, if there were any colors with bad meanings, any traditional food that could be easily incorporated in the buffet, if there was a specific way to address the representatives, and so on. That way, we could showcase that our official representatives were willing to accomodate for the other culture while still maintaining a very professional environment, proving a sincere level of care and respect for our partners that doesn't fall into cliche pandering. Now granted, as a lowly intern i was not invited to attend the meeting, but from what i heard it went smoothly
@@docomega7862 what you described is lovely and how it should be. With some research and good intent, such efforts are appreciated and can go a long way in improving a relationship, whether professional or personal. Nowadays, here in the states, everyone is offended by "cultural appropriation" meaning your not allowed to do something deemed by another culture to be "theirs" or you get called out for it and/or "cancelled". Its absurd! When someone genuinely respects and even incorporates another cultures customs, I see that as a sign of appreciation and respect. Culture is meant to be shared, not owned. I don't however feel the same when someone makes a low level attempt based on sterotypes. The Hot Sauce thing was just plain ignorant, an embarrassment and is the type of thing that keeps stereotyping and racism alive instead of bringing people together.
@@commonsensei0214 my feelings exactly. Like you said, the main idea is cultural appreciation. To me at least, appreciation goes through understanding and respect. Weaponizing culture and other forms of ignorant approaches to culture are in no way cultural appreciation and are understandably unacceptable. Being european and very interested in learning more about history, cultural sharing and appreciation seems to me like the normal and natural way of civilization. From greek influence to roman influence. Through travels, conquests and exchanges with egypt, the mediterranean world, european history is a melting pot of cultures, so trying to claim that one thing exclusively belongs to one specific group and no one else can enjoy it is pretty laughable.
You go around the world if you try to blend in and treat other cultures like your own people love it. Go to Japan or Korea and visit temples during parades. No one will yell at you for wearing traditional gear. Speak their language or at least try and everyone will love you. Drink their drinks, eat their food, appreciate what is before you and literally no one gets upset. The only thing people will tell you not to speak about when you travel is religion and politics. Those are the two things everyone gets mad about. Somehow the U.S managed to make using other cultures political when it’s just not anywhere else. It’s ironic because that’s supposed to be our strongest trait as a melting pot.
It's cringe and performative. It's indeed the thought that counts. He appreciates the effort a foreigner has put into it, not the actual items used. Plebeian @Idiocracyisnow
@@AwwYouTried8639 well idk about you but if i showed up to another country and they welcomed me with "performative" gestures relating to my culture id be delighted, not angry. culture in itself IS performative... you only decide its cringe base on your personal perception of who is performing the gesture.
When a foreigner puts in alot of effort to make us feel welcome it is respectful. I'm getting alot of hate comments for no reason. Please find something else to be angry about?
That's how it goes for most people. If you're a white dude and you buy a sombrero in Mexico City, the only people who will get upset with you are white people with unnaturally colored hair. The natives to the city will be like "ay look at that silly gringo wearing a sombrero. You go gringo man!"
@@andik70it is, but as he said, commercialism in japan is tradition based, and the “suit” has only been the formal wear of meetings from the western integration in Japan following WW2, prior to which it was traditionally Japanese garb, so they likely would respect the attempt regardless
Hell, everyone would appreciate it. I love birds, it's like one of maybe three personality traits I have. When a friend goes "oh check out this bird I saw" and its an invasive species I have a specific dislike of, I still appreciate the effort to connect with me on my levels.
@@jackdelaneit's all just in technicality Like here in Malaysia, three of our main races are Malays, Chinese and Indians. However, Chinese and Indians are treated like second class citizens because they were originally immigrants brought by the British.
@mohammadsyazwigeoffrey7325 fair point. much like how some Americans view Hispanics that way, or 150-80 years ago, the irish and decendants would be viewed in a similar light.
There used to be a carribian place near my school and they made food so good I get tears in my eyes remembering. I can't travel, but I remember the jerk goat and patties and stews. I miss it dearly. Your food is wonderful. Love from Canada.
I'm white but all of my friends growing up were Trini and Jamaican. I used to spend weeks straight at one of my Trini friend's homes in the summer because my friend wanted me to stay with her, and her family never once even considered asking me to leave. They were some of the kindest people I'd ever met, and to this day I still find myself more comfortable around Carribean people than most others, as I've kind of absorbed their cultural mannerisms and way of being. To this day, my best friend of 12 years is Trini and we listen to Soca, Reggae and Dancehall, go to carnival together whenever it comes to Toronto, and hang out with each other's families like we're related. I have never met a more kind, generous and wise people. Love Carribeans ❤
@@Apophis.004 I'd known my friend for years and my parents both knew her and her parents. When that happens, you're more like family than just friends. My parents were totally ok with me staying there, since they knew they could trust her family. That's how it used to be back when I was a kid.
japanese people come like 30mins before the set time its actually wild how much respect they put in or effort i love it ngl i wanna go back to japan again
i’m sorry to inform you that… although they do arrive 30 minutes prior to the set time as you’ve said, however they would not come knock on the door or inform the receptionist their arrival until five minutes prior to the set time.
Because it's rude to come too early it indicates that you're so hurried you don't want to stay or that you have bad time management which is a bad quality in business but coming too late means you have no respect no discipline no pride and no preparation and planning which indicates bad business this is a nono easily@@cfsoho
Japanese people love it when people embrace their culture. I had a Japanese boss and I could tell it made her happy when one day she asked me if I had any plans after work, and I told her how I was going to a Ramen shop next to where I live because the food there is good. You can tell Japanese people have a pride for their heritage in a way most people do not.
I imagine it’s also a bit of a surprise when you consider how often western customs and tendencies spread to other countries. The effort is probably somewhat flattering.
I would say it is quite unique to USA to not have culture to be proud of. I'm Eastern European. We love sharing our culture with others, it is so nice to see others appreciate it.
@@TheHestyaI think it’s just colony countries that don’t really know what their own culture is yet. I’m from New Zealand and I don’t think anyone here could really tell you what our culture is. They might say Pavlova and bare feet but Australians claim those as well 😂
Lewis being "an absolute boss" is correct...."all the time" is perhaps the biggest reach of the year. His billables make him an asset to any firm, financial abilities make him untouchable but he can be played like a fiddle if the fight gets dirty. Not to say he's not a boss, but in the world of lawyers, he can't sit at the high table.... he lacks that x factor
I've lived in Japan for four years and they love people showing interest in their culture especially when they do their research. Louis even bows correctly (hands to the side for men, clasped in front for women) Also as an American if I came into a Japanese office that looked like a bald eagle threw up on it and plastered wall to wall with American flags I'd love them
If I as an American showed up and they were playing the American national anthem for me I’d place my hand over my heart and shed manly tears, so they could know how much it meant to me
Because this is how normal people think. I wasn’t born in the US and if I saw traditional clothes from my country of origin I would love it. The more people that wear it the more I’d like it. Cultural appropriation is actually cultural appreciation. I love your culture so much I want to make it part of my own. Anyone that says otherwise is a brain washed liberal.
@@2B_or_not_2BNah I think there's a difference between cultural appropiation and cultural appreciation. This is my take: one is usually mockery and I would say willfully ignorant. The second one is informed and respectful.
We had an MD from India come to our office that we normally only work with online. We all loved him. And one of the ladies from our team who was married to someone from India wore traditional dress that day and made chai tea, I could be getting the drink wrong but she made a drink from that area and some traditional desserts. He was so pleased that she had gone out of her way to honor him in that way. Because it was genuine. It was from the heart.
My Mom was a military brat, and lived in Japan for two years as a little girl. She gave me interest in learning about other cultures, and my interest in Japanese culture. 😊
There’s a clear distinction between appreciation and mockery. Americans have often caricaturized other cultures in the past, leading to an overcorrection where everything is deemed offensive nowadays. Kudos to the writers for highlighting this complexity.
You're giving them too much credit. There really weren't any significant problems that brought about our perpetually offended class, its all about them and their need for attention.
@@oscarwilde5473 The best part is that I didn't even notice your previous comment until you decided to prove me right, out of the blue. Nicely done, 10/10
As an immigrant living in the United States, nobody gets more offended about cultural appropriation than Americans. Most people would respect you for respecting their culture. Also, it is not at all disrespectful to inquire more about other’s cultures. I don’t know why people feel uncomfortable in the first place.
More specifically, no one gets more offended than the American-born children of immigrants. They’re generally the LOUDEST about cultural appropriation, authenticity, and offensiveness. Immigrants tend to be more relaxed or even happy when Americans show interest.
Because of blackface. Now, the stupid people consider all kinds of "wearing other culture" is a form of "blackface". So the point is, just another thing that happens in a stupid brain. The problem then is, how such stupidity gain traction and becomes popular in the US. I guess as a free country, its people is free to be stupid
The biggest problem with the whole offended about cultural appropriation thing are middle aged White women that feel personally attacked by something slightly out of their comfort zone.
@@DirkShotojima No. 1 - I'm not American, and secondly, it's awkward to the Natives because they themselves don't wear it quite often, and it's out of place. Here in India, Kurta, Dhoti and most of the other traditional outfits are reserved for special occasions, you won't see Indians roaming around in large numbers everyday in traditional attire, same goes for Japan too, they will laugh at you because they themselves wear T-Shirt with Jeans Most often.
Its amazing when other people invest their time and money into trying to understand your culture THE RIGHT WAY like he did here. Deep meaning and no big stereotypes involved. Sharing a drink. Amazing.
@@DrDiabolical000what gives you the right to impose your “empathy” on others. What mental gymnastics did you do to come to the conclusion that you can decide what others care about? I’m Asian btw. You should get a life, go to the gym, or something to make your life worth living.
He was right to serve green tea and show his appreciation of Tanaka San's Japanese heritage and culture. Shikoku is a beautiful Island. I have been there a few times.
@@michaelman6700 No he poured it fresh because Louis knew the culture that Mike thought he didn't. It's a professional culture thing in East Asia to show up within an hour before the scheduled time to show their punctuality.
Honestly, if someone prepared those decorations my home is known for and show proper mannerism/etiquette like that, I would be very glad and feel appreciated.
Me being Colombian, if I was doing that deal with Louis Litt, I would give him a hug and sign if he wore a ruana and a sombrero vueltiao and served me refajo or Santafe rum or aguapanela. That is super attentive and caring. Given the fact that I’m so home sick, I’d probably choke up and cry a bit out of happiness someone went out of their way to make me feel at home.
As a Brazilian, if he was dressing in a white linen bespoked suit, served a strong coffee, we had lunch in a churrascaria, and finished the deal drinking a caipirinha, BOY!
I worked for a Japanese musical intrument manufacturer. One day, the head of drum division visited me, and I made sure the very 1st thing I did was bow, which was returned. My colleague shook his hand, which wasn't well recieved. Learn about the places you go and the people you meet, it will be beneficial, not only to you, but to others too.
Thankfully, Louis actually did his research and made sure to take notes of Mr. Tanaka's personal history to ensure it would not be offensive to him. Had he had some bootleg map of a town that didn't exist or said something nonsense or offensive with a fake kimono then Mr. Tanaka probably would have laughed in his face.
Although he is wearing it inside out lol Men's haori are plain on the outside and have elaborately decorated linings as a result of Edo era sumptuary laws. Dodging the law became a fashion statement which remains to this day. (Although ironically, this proves it's an authentic item because a touristy garment would have all the decoration on the outside)
@@sadakotetsuwan9229it’s more likely that he wore it inside out to show that the haori is genuine without needing to take it off. Arrogant, but on brand for his character.
@@sadakotetsuwan9229 He mentions it was gifted to his father by the Japanese student he lived with, it's possible that they taught him to wear it that way for some reason, or that the student didn't think it mattered
Having lived in Japan for almost 6 years i can assure you that they LOVE when you appreciate their culture. I spent my last 2 years of highschool over there and the first class i signed up for was Japanese. Man I miss Japan. Such a beautiful and wonderful place.
I haven't been there, but I had Japanese foster parents, direct from Japan, while I was growing up in Washington and Oregon. They were amazing people. I learned the beauty of the culture (think what it would be like to be raised by Mr. Miyagi, had his wife and son lived), and I showed them how to get along in American society. I got the better end of that trade off in my opinion... Arigato gozaimasu, haha to chichi...
perfect example of the difference between respect and being offensive. Respect is knowing about the culture and paying respect of it showing the other person that you spent the time to learn about their culture and or wanted to know more about it. Being offensive is only doing surface parody of the culture and knowing nothing about it and making jokes about it without wanting to learn more about it.
What I think people are missing here, is that Louis actually knew his stuff. The key element here is that he "Did his homework." He didn't just see something he thought was cool and think "Oh great. I'll have this."
@@benlowe1701 yeah. A lot of people are offensive and refuse to believe they are, and a lot of people are perfectly inoffensive but others claim they are. If you take the time to learn about a culture and you embrace it with respect, it will be appreciated even if you miss the mark somewhat. Most people like seeing their culture embraced. Its a good thing as long as you arent just appropriating the culture.
There was another episode where in order to get hired by a hedge fund manager he set up multiple off shore tax shelters and even went so far as to get the mana Ferrari back that he lost to his ex-wife in their divorce. Another big Luis W.
At our company we had visitation from Korea we got an idea to buy some Korean candy to put on display alongside products we are importing. Visiting members not only noticed that but also hit us with "i know these, its a great touch i buy them back home". Its always good to show you appreciate other cultures and to be willing to share yours.
Louis knows his stuff. Showing effort beyond the numbers in partnership is ESSENTIAL to standing out to a client. Even if it may seem silly, putting yourself out like that for a client shows them you are there for them, not the other way around. Would I suggest someone go out and do this in real life? Probably not, but this is another lesson a "simple reality show" can teach us about human behavior and charisma. Well done, louis.
if I went to a Japanese business meeting and they had cheeseburgers, iced cold cans of coke, all wearing cowboy hats and had a map of Texas, I'd feel home
Until 20 years ago, this was never a risky move. The only reason there's considered risk is because of modern American politics, and it's fucking stupid.
@@LyneaSilver its got jack shit to do with politics. if you try to imitate someone's culture and you do it wrong, you could be perceived as mocking them, and offended people don't do good business
I love Luis ❤️ he grows so much in the whole series, he is so honest and human with his emotions, many times he fuggs up BUT he's heart is so pure and in the right place that he can't do anything else then be the best character of them all, the more time passes and life goes on I come to truly appreciate his parsonage ❤❤❤
Exactly Americans for someone reason take a lot of offense with everything, example when you wear other cultures clothes and walk in their nation. It's actually showing respect and not insulting
@@woundedidiot429 its the gen z trend. They are flowers easly hurted and got 0 understanding of the real world. To much time learning from tiktok, instagrams and other social medias. And then we have the "victims" who are trying to get the most benifits from it.
You do realize the main issue Mike had was that he thought Louis was just doing a generic Japanese imitation, right? When he talked about knowing a Japanese exchange student, the assumption is meant to be that he thinks they're all basically like her. When he said he had a map of their home-town, the assumption is meant to be that he just got a map of the companies post code. Mike even said "Do you know about their culture??" with a dismissive tone. When it turns out that Louis found a map of the home town region of *Tanaka,* That's when it suddenly became respectful. He did his homework, and did everything in his power to give respect to *that region* of Japan, and it showed.
Its also a big thing in Japan for foreigners to like their culture. When I was over in Yokosuka with the US Navy I got to experience some of this. I went to a music store to get some copies of my favorite bands (All from anime, shocking I know) and the store owner was so excited when I started asking for Maximum the Hormone and other weird Japanese bands. They really love seeing their culture respected by others.
They needed to give Louis more wins like this. I hated how every time Louis made some smart/ballsy move, it blew up in his face. If he messed up all the time, he wouldn't be a head of the company (even before he was a name partner).
remember kids: “cultural appropriation” is only a thing in the US… they’re the only crybabies in the world, getting offended for you and getting angry because you didn’t find offensive what got them offended. Everywhere else, this is an example of very thoughtful, very well received behavior
Thats to protect their cultural power. For them, its offensive if they wear a kimono, or a mexican hat, but theres no offense if a japanese wear a nike shoe...
Cultural appropriation is a real thing that happens. When population of country A claims that some cultural element of country B say a musical instrument is actually traditional instrument of country A. Like if Japanese claimed sth Korean. Simply playing that instrument wouldn't be appropriation.
@@vahagntumanyan1305exactly! The meaning of the words changed recently, now if you enjoy somebody else's culture, people from your own culture will get offended. I never seen a Native American, Haïtian, Mexican, Guatemalan or Venezuelan get offended by this. (Those are the exemples I can give, since I've had such interactions with people I actually know from these countries)
One thing is if you do it without having any idea of what you are doing, other thing is when you do it because you know that is right and it’s a sign of respect
@@mid1429 You clearly aren't familiar with how NIHONGO (Japanese Language) works, so naturally you don't get the point @prithvimuratee1425 is trying to make.
The line is so fine in professional circumstances especially between appropriation and showing respect. One time I poured a drink for my South Korean friend while looking away since he's older than me and I saw something online. I wasn't perfect in the mannerisms. I wasn't trying to pretend it was me. He told me that's why it meant so much and why we were friends from then on. Because I tried despite not being sure about it. Dunno if that's the difference generally speaking, but it's what made the difference for him.
All culture is appropriation, it's literally what culture is, literally by definition. Yes I repeated literally twice. The whole notion of "cultural appropriation" is braindeadism for braindead midwits who think they're smart because they have an IQ of 112 Culture = appropriation
If someone had gone to that extent to make me feel comfortable and at home surrounded by my culture in a strange foreign place, I would cry with appreciation.
There’s a fine line between cultural appreciation and appropriation and Louis absolutely nails it. He was very respectful and not making fun of Mr. Tanaka at all.
Mr to be respectful from an American standpoint. San to be respectful from a Japanese standpoint. It's not really that weird to anyone else other than people in the know. And it can absolutely be handwaved considering all the other things he's done to make Mr. Tanaka feel right at ease.
@@arthurfine4284 you did not even make a point aside from "see in this tv show it worked, so it must work" And even if it worked irl, it would be out of politeness from the japanese fella. And it would still be an incorrect use of pre-/suffixes
When I visited China for work, I made sure to study up on traditions for the work place and got shocked reactions whenever I did them naturally. Though the biggest shock everyone had about me was that I actually knew how to use chopsticks.
Accurate description of "woke people getting offended on behalf of others calling it "cultural appropriation" and the actual cultural people loving that people are respecting their culture"
@@jon8004 From my experience, I don't know a single person from the hundreds I've interacted with in my culture that wouldn't love to see someone wear our traditional clothing in public. I've heard similar things from my friends from different cultural backgrounds. The point is that most of us love it when others make an attempt to familiarize themselves with our culture, as long as they're obviously not mocking it.
@@vinito19 african americans arent the same as africans... most african americans are from the Caribbean. those with heritage from africa (senegal, nigeria, ghana, etc) will still call themselves african even if they live in north america. just an explanation
As someone who has done over 30 major contracts worth a total of about 50 million dollars...Traditionally religious sake is served after close as its good luck and meant to bless the deal. Otherwise drink for the end of negotiations. Tea is not served in this was in Japan. This is closer to a Chinese tea ceremony where they do use tea for ceremonial and business transactions. The haori is just over the top. Anyone would be thinking weird gaijin otaku but would say nothing.
extreme cultural accommodation is viewed poorly by most nations. Moderate amounts i.e. shaking hands vs. bowing, and using the appropriate address is viewed positively. So the research would support your experience
Despite the generalized fear for cultural misappropriation, East Asians usually like westerners trying to respectfully imitate their culture. We like seeing Westerners trying but mispronouncing our language, we think it's cute. Only in US or Europe, native speakers are condescending towards those that are not fluent in their language... Such ambience might be contributing to the fear of cultural misappropriation - "when you are not one of them, don't try to imitate them as you can get mocked". Whereas, not proficient in someone else's culture is perfectly fine.
@@dimitar.bogdanovI am Dutch, I don't mind people trying either. As long as it is genuine. I know Dutch is a hard language, if they just greeted me in Dutch I would value that very highly, that shows effort.
The difference between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation is one is done with respect for the initial culture while the other is done to mock or disrespect the culture. In spite of what a lot of western progressives think it's possible and pretty common to imitate the culture of another in a respectful way as long as it's done sincerely.
I saw a video of an American dressed in clothing respecting Mexican culture and he asked Americans if it was offensive and they were like yeah it's racist he needs to take it off he went to Mexico dressed like that and asked it they're offended and they all said no why would they be he's showing respect to their culture
1st off I’m Mexican. And I do find it offensive when clowns like to dress up with a fcking charro hat and dress as a stereotypical 18th century peasant as if we’re all dressed like that. Or worst when they like to use our cultural aesthetics and food and drinks like Tacos & Tequila to profit from our culture - Can’t stand those celebrities with their own Tequila brands, buying our fields, tarnishing the drink’s flavor with mediocre taste just to increase profits or the crap “Mexican” fast food restaurants with crap Mexican food. It doesn’t bother me if an Anglo or Afro-American performs Mexican song or wears a Mexican football (soccer) jersey - that’s appreciation. But that’s just my opinion, unlike other Mexicans, I won’t be speaking for them. And Mexican-Americans are VERY different to Mexicans from Mexico. Many Mexican-Americans can’t even speak proper Spanish or even been to Mexico, probably don’t even eat tortillas, they eat with forks and spoons, so I don’t wanna hear their opinion because they’re as Mexican as Taco Bell. Funny thing about people interviewing Mexicans in Mexico regarding if the outfit is offensive or not, is that they NEVER explain to Mexicans, the topic of cultural appropriation - they just bait them with a yes or no question. Mexicans are extremely nationalistic and patriotic, if they knew what cultural appropriation was, which is a topic that is seldom discussed about in Mexico, then they would absolutely find it offensive. Mexicans don’t find it funny that Americans are trying to steal more of what they have. They still hold a huge grudge over the Mexican territory taken by US, and why to this day, only Mexican can buy property bordering the US and every student is taught about that long lost Mexican territory.
As a Mexican American let me tell you he was not respecting our culture, he was dressed in stuff we sell to tourists. Hence why nobody saw anything wrong
That same dude also dressed like a stereotypical indian, something INDIANS were the first to call out & continue to call out. & then claimed it wasn’t offensive because he put the camera on a group of a few kids and they said no. So the video is selective-compilation at best.
Now while some clothing is "ceremonial" clothes are clothes. This idea people have that dressing in another culture’s normal clothes is "offensive" is so idiotic it's beyond pathetic.
If I walked into a business meeting in Japan and there was Texas barbecue ribs, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and everyone was wearing football jerseys, I would go fuckin nuts. I can only imagine Japanese people feel the same when their culture is represented similarly.
I think intent is really important. There's a difference between trying to immitate a culture to smooze out some brownie points, and then there's genuine appreciation for culture. Now, IRL, would a japanese tycoon appreciate a wearing a kimono over an office suit? No idea.
reminds me of a story from our english teacher : if a Japanese hands u his card its a sign of respect dont just carelessly pocket it but show that u value it by carefully giving it a specific spot in your wallet Our teachers friend did that and was ignored for the rest of the evening while teach who was careful with the card got along great
"Nothing offensive about showing respect for another culture."
Solid.
Fair enough
this, if you do it right and don’t go too crazy most people will see it as respect
Very valid.
Something a certain amount of people nowadays cannot comprehend and make everything seem offensive even though it's not.
Average twitter user “BuT THat’S CULTurAl ApprOpriATIOn!”
Him serving tea for his client is very respectful and thoughtful. 😊😊
✨Very demure✨ 👌😂
I prefere tea over Luke warm water
@@jamesturneriii1505I don't, but I understand that I am in the minority
I am just not sure about pouring that tea 45 minutes beforehand.
@@Schilani he knew they were there, Mike did not
Its the attitude. If you are truly respectful, it shows.
Exactly. I think Tanaka would've been less impressed if the map was just of a random region, and not the one his family is from.
Almost all cultures are like this too only in America people are worried about offending others while it’s all about intentions
@@dominicviner6619Very often it’s about how the recipients themselves view other cultures. A person that treats others with respect would tend to view these actions as good gestures, because even if it’s not correct or optimal, what matters is you tried and showed that you care.
A person that treats others with hostility would try to pick things to be offended about to justify their hostility
@@dominicviner6619Nobody in America is worried about offending others or we wouldn't have created the word zipper head to call Asians 🤣 look up Stephen Crowder Chinese impression where he goes to China town doing the most overtly racist Chinese impression that's the type of bs mfs talk about
@@dominicviner6619 There are idiots in america. In other news, the sky is blue.
Even using the correct honorofics and the correct bow, mans did the homework for sure
Did you grab that word from Nefarious?
@@CurrentlyObsessively who?
@@SEFSQklOR0VS it's a movie.
Funny he used "Mr" as well even though "-san" means the same thing. It's like saying "Mr Mr Tanaka".
@MansMan42069 not really, i live in japan it’s like just adressing them, if you put
-sama then it’s like saying mr mr tanaka but
-san is js regular
It’s the fact that he did it with respect and classy. It wasn’t cheap conversations. It was showing the beauty of their culture.
well ...let's not go too far lol
I like the videos when I guy dressed as a "mexican" goes to bunch of white college kids and asks if this is offensive and they all say yes, then goes to immigrants from mexico and asks the same question and they say no. Some people just want to be offended and don't understand that a lot of it is dependent on intent and understanding of that culture.
@@Resmundyeah just don’t be disrespectful or demeaning to the peoples cultures your indulging into. Like we can tell when someone is doing it for fun/respect compared to someone doing it with racist/hateful intents.
@@Resmund well yeah, but then again, imagine wearing the sombrero and the fake mustache at a business meeting with Mexican partners.
@@bogdanlevi Tell me at what point is Louis disrespectful.
This would be a boss move. The kimono given as a gift shows sincerity. The tea shows sophistication and anticipation of need. The prior planning shows due diligence and the cultural understanding means he anticipated that the client would be 45min early and was ready to provide efficient, stream-lined bespoke service
He’s worth his retainer
As an on-call automation engineer that regularly has multi-hour troubleshooting sessions with the largest plants in the country, where hundreds, sometimes thousands of people are waiting on your solution to get back to work...
I wish I could serve tea for the retainer he would be getting.
Say word.
Brother is the king of corporate yapping
@@HoloScope or the international trade of empires -_-
Maybe, but it is bs. Why would someone show up 45 minutes early to a meeting? That's not polite at all (I've been in Japan for 15 years). And that's not at all a kimono, but whatever. It's just a script for a TV show.
Japanese businessmen really like people who done their homework. Preparedness is one of the qualities they value.
After drinking with japanese salary men in shinjuku they also appreciate good drinkers
Applies to any culture lmao
@@MusicArchonI know. People like this guy just parrot what they see online😂
Are you a Japanese businessesman ? Or at least an international businessman ? 😂
they parents make them do the hw
This is bros 5th playthrough and he chose all right options
Bro made tea and everything he had good intentions all around and did it to help the Japanese businessman feel comfortable. It worked cause he proved he did his work and would do what is needed to make a client comfortable.
Yes. It worked because he wasn't making a low effort stereotypical pandering, but instead showcased true and deep knowledge about japenese culture, traditions, culture and etiquette (at least within the universe of the show, i don't know if it is a 1 to 1 representation of real life). And his interlocutor who is obviously very knowledgeable about it was able to identify that it was knowledge and respect instead of a lazy and ignorant pandering. While the scene is probably a bit extra, this mindset is very useful in real life, especially in competitive fields as it can set you apart from competitors who dod not take the time to do proper research
@@docomega7862I like how you stated "low effort stereotypical pandering" and later the "lazy and ignorant pandering" in parts of your comment. It's perfect wording to describe and an example of something I recently saw. Im not sure when exactly it was from, but it was Hilary Clinton doing an interview with 2 African American interviewers who asked her what is an item she never leaves home without. Her answer was Hot Sauce like she was trying to identify with the black culture and win the hearts (and votes) of the hosts and their listeners. It was so fake and so ackward. They even called her out on it and she asked if it was working. I would use your words to describe that situation perfectly.
@@commonsensei0214 this indeed is a blantant example of low effort pandering. Granted, not being american myself i don't know much about african american culture, but it seems to me that there are probably other more relevant stuff than hot sauce. Even if i'm wrong and hot sauce is culturally very important, we all know she doesn't leave home with it. To me, this shows either deep ignorance or complete lack of respect since you either assume that your 10 seconds google search is enough to understand the culture, or that they will be too dumb to pick up on your bullshit and call tou out for it.
I have the opposite example. During one of my internships, i was in a team prepping an official meeting with a representative of another country, meeting that took place over a buffet. And we took quite a bit of time to research what were the traditions of the country, if there were any colors with bad meanings, any traditional food that could be easily incorporated in the buffet, if there was a specific way to address the representatives, and so on. That way, we could showcase that our official representatives were willing to accomodate for the other culture while still maintaining a very professional environment, proving a sincere level of care and respect for our partners that doesn't fall into cliche pandering. Now granted, as a lowly intern i was not invited to attend the meeting, but from what i heard it went smoothly
@@docomega7862 what you described is lovely and how it should be. With some research and good intent, such efforts are appreciated and can go a long way in improving a relationship, whether professional or personal. Nowadays, here in the states, everyone is offended by "cultural appropriation" meaning your not allowed to do something deemed by another culture to be "theirs" or you get called out for it and/or "cancelled". Its absurd! When someone genuinely respects and even incorporates another cultures customs, I see that as a sign of appreciation and respect. Culture is meant to be shared, not owned. I don't however feel the same when someone makes a low level attempt based on sterotypes. The Hot Sauce thing was just plain ignorant, an embarrassment and is the type of thing that keeps stereotyping and racism alive instead of bringing people together.
@@commonsensei0214 my feelings exactly. Like you said, the main idea is cultural appreciation. To me at least, appreciation goes through understanding and respect. Weaponizing culture and other forms of ignorant approaches to culture are in no way cultural appreciation and are understandably unacceptable. Being european and very interested in learning more about history, cultural sharing and appreciation seems to me like the normal and natural way of civilization. From greek influence to roman influence. Through travels, conquests and exchanges with egypt, the mediterranean world, european history is a melting pot of cultures, so trying to claim that one thing exclusively belongs to one specific group and no one else can enjoy it is pretty laughable.
the fact he knew that Tanaka will be there earlier xDD rly did his homework GJ xD
Have you watched the show? It’s what he does
It’s a cultural thing over there it’s like “if ur not 5mins early ur 5mins late” typa thing to show respect of others time
From a german POV, the japanese do a lot of things very much like us. Coming in on time is coming late. But here, 15 to 20 minutes is enough lol.
its was in his script yes
@@Jay-dj3twyeah I did. Your comment can be referring to anything and still doesnt make any sense. Its a tv show lmao
Perfect example of, ' its the thought that counts!' His pure heart made itself clear!
thought that counts applies to things that dont seem great but the thought is what counted. This is not even remotely an example of that.
You go around the world if you try to blend in and treat other cultures like your own people love it. Go to Japan or Korea and visit temples during parades. No one will yell at you for wearing traditional gear. Speak their language or at least try and everyone will love you. Drink their drinks, eat their food, appreciate what is before you and literally no one gets upset. The only thing people will tell you not to speak about when you travel is religion and politics. Those are the two things everyone gets mad about. Somehow the U.S managed to make using other cultures political when it’s just not anywhere else. It’s ironic because that’s supposed to be our strongest trait as a melting pot.
It's cringe and performative. It's indeed the thought that counts. He appreciates the effort a foreigner has put into it, not the actual items used. Plebeian @Idiocracyisnow
@@AwwYouTried8639 well idk about you but if i showed up to another country and they welcomed me with "performative" gestures relating to my culture id be delighted, not angry.
culture in itself IS performative... you only decide its cringe base on your personal perception of who is performing the gesture.
That is Denis Akiyama. Pioneer Toronto actor. Every Asian actor you know from Canada today followed in Denis’ footsteps. Great man. RIP.
When a foreigner puts in alot of effort to make us feel welcome it is respectful.
I'm getting alot of hate comments for no reason. Please find something else to be angry about?
@ronan2438 and your not real
@@bapnap6218 my not real?
@@bapnap6218i do not understand you but i somehow agree with you
@@spottier proud of you your achievements will become you're achievements.
@@bapnap6218 yes
Every Japanese person I met in Japan would be thrilled that you took an interest in their culture.
Oh yea yea Japanese people adore weaboos.
I think this goes for all countries! 👍
Yes, but isnt the japanese business atire a suit?
That's how it goes for most people. If you're a white dude and you buy a sombrero in Mexico City, the only people who will get upset with you are white people with unnaturally colored hair. The natives to the city will be like "ay look at that silly gringo wearing a sombrero. You go gringo man!"
@@andik70it is, but as he said, commercialism in japan is tradition based, and the “suit” has only been the formal wear of meetings from the western integration in Japan following WW2, prior to which it was traditionally Japanese garb, so they likely would respect the attempt regardless
“Nothing offensive about showing respect for another culture.”
Some people still haven’t learned this.
Because that’s now labelled cultural appropriation 😂
@@christiansimmons630 and that’s complete nonsense. Everyone appropriates from other cultures. It’s a sign of appreciation and respect.
@@spencergsmith couldn’t agree with you more buddy
@@bluesh0es 💯
@@christiansimmons630cultural appropriation is taking someone else's as your own, and eliminating their connections to it.
He's one of the best characters in any show because he totally embodied what you would expect from his personality type. All the bad and the good.
Most foreigners would appreciate such a gesture especially if it’s done well and in good faith and taste. I’m a foreigner, I would appreciate it.
Hell, everyone would appreciate it.
I love birds, it's like one of maybe three personality traits I have. When a friend goes "oh check out this bird I saw" and its an invasive species I have a specific dislike of, I still appreciate the effort to connect with me on my levels.
Arnt all people foreigners? To every nation they arnt from
@@jackdelaneit's all just in technicality
Like here in Malaysia, three of our main races are Malays, Chinese and Indians. However, Chinese and Indians are treated like second class citizens because they were originally immigrants brought by the British.
@mohammadsyazwigeoffrey7325 fair point. much like how some Americans view Hispanics that way, or 150-80 years ago, the irish and decendants would be viewed in a similar light.
No, I would think it an obvious ploy to ingratiate one self with me because they want my money.
I am from the Caribbean and we love when people share our culture and form parts of our culture. Our family will become your family
There used to be a carribian place near my school and they made food so good I get tears in my eyes remembering. I can't travel, but I remember the jerk goat and patties and stews. I miss it dearly. Your food is wonderful. Love from Canada.
Bless up from Jamaica My caribbean Bredda.
I'm white but all of my friends growing up were Trini and Jamaican. I used to spend weeks straight at one of my Trini friend's homes in the summer because my friend wanted me to stay with her, and her family never once even considered asking me to leave. They were some of the kindest people I'd ever met, and to this day I still find myself more comfortable around Carribean people than most others, as I've kind of absorbed their cultural mannerisms and way of being.
To this day, my best friend of 12 years is Trini and we listen to Soca, Reggae and Dancehall, go to carnival together whenever it comes to Toronto, and hang out with each other's families like we're related. I have never met a more kind, generous and wise people. Love Carribeans ❤
@@tisbutascratch2045 how did your family let you spend weeks at your friend's house?
@@Apophis.004 I'd known my friend for years and my parents both knew her and her parents. When that happens, you're more like family than just friends. My parents were totally ok with me staying there, since they knew they could trust her family. That's how it used to be back when I was a kid.
japanese people come like 30mins before the set time its actually wild how much respect they put in or effort i love it ngl i wanna go back to japan again
i’m sorry to inform you that… although they do arrive 30 minutes prior to the set time as you’ve said, however they would not come knock on the door or inform the receptionist their arrival until five minutes prior to the set time.
@@cfsoho yeah i know my friend came 30m earlier but never knocked
Because it's rude to come too early it indicates that you're so hurried you don't want to stay or that you have bad time management which is a bad quality in business but coming too late means you have no respect no discipline no pride and no preparation and planning which indicates bad business this is a nono easily@@cfsoho
I gave u the777th like....welcome
I’m sorry but coming at the wrong time is not respectful lol
Having had a lot of dealings with Japanese people, this is a very respectful way to greet a guest and show respect for their culture.
Japanese people love it when people embrace their culture. I had a Japanese boss and I could tell it made her happy when one day she asked me if I had any plans after work, and I told her how I was going to a Ramen shop next to where I live because the food there is good. You can tell Japanese people have a pride for their heritage in a way most people do not.
Everyone does
Except leftists
I imagine it’s also a bit of a surprise when you consider how often western customs and tendencies spread to other countries. The effort is probably somewhat flattering.
oh hell yeah, ramen is delicious.
gotta add some nice ingredients to really max out that savory taste
I would say it is quite unique to USA to not have culture to be proud of. I'm Eastern European. We love sharing our culture with others, it is so nice to see others appreciate it.
@@TheHestyaI think it’s just colony countries that don’t really know what their own culture is yet. I’m from New Zealand and I don’t think anyone here could really tell you what our culture is. They might say Pavlova and bare feet but Australians claim those as well 😂
Lewis being a absolute BOSS all the time makes him one of the most elite characters ever
Lewis being "an absolute boss" is correct...."all the time" is perhaps the biggest reach of the year. His billables make him an asset to any firm, financial abilities make him untouchable but he can be played like a fiddle if the fight gets dirty.
Not to say he's not a boss, but in the world of lawyers, he can't sit at the high table....
he lacks that x factor
Lewis is a lovable loser but that's why we love him.
Lewis has the most punchable face and is a total ass, but the man knows how to play his clients
Three comments from so called Suits fans but nobody knows his name? :D
Its Louis Litt.
@@myguy2143 we just got Litt up
Asians are very respectful and proud of their heritage
Yes, like Poland. Show up with pierogi and we're yours.
They see it as honorable
Why do people understand Asians to be just Chinese or Japanese or Korean? It's offensive....
@@jesselawrence7343who said that
Can you site your sources
When people show respect and appreciation for another culture it is actually appreciated by those from that culture.
I've lived in Japan for four years and they love people showing interest in their culture especially when they do their research. Louis even bows correctly (hands to the side for men, clasped in front for women)
Also as an American if I came into a Japanese office that looked like a bald eagle threw up on it and plastered wall to wall with American flags I'd love them
If I as an American showed up and they were playing the American national anthem for me I’d place my hand over my heart and shed manly tears, so they could know how much it meant to me
Because this is how normal people think. I wasn’t born in the US and if I saw traditional clothes from my country of origin I would love it. The more people that wear it the more I’d like it. Cultural appropriation is actually cultural appreciation. I love your culture so much I want to make it part of my own. Anyone that says otherwise is a brain washed liberal.
@@2B_or_not_2BNah I think there's a difference between cultural appropiation and cultural appreciation. This is my take: one is usually mockery and I would say willfully ignorant. The second one is informed and respectful.
@@mr_kayoI agree, the issue is that a lot of people don’t understand the difference between the two
dont forget the oil barrel mugs big gulp
It’s not a mockery if you research and do it right. Respect is very evident in presentation.
I love that He took the time and Showed Respect!!
We had an MD from India come to our office that we normally only work with online. We all loved him. And one of the ladies from our team who was married to someone from India wore traditional dress that day and made chai tea, I could be getting the drink wrong but she made a drink from that area and some traditional desserts. He was so pleased that she had gone out of her way to honor him in that way. Because it was genuine. It was from the heart.
At least he didn’t say tanaka-chan 💀
Taa-na-ka-chan
😂😂😂😂😂Lamo
yeah, it would be very disrespectful to call a elder chan, the correct suffix would be san
@@phantom_stnd also chan is meant for girls as well lol
That would be Tanaka-San. Chan is not for formal interaction.
As a Japanese man, I would be happy that someone has took their time to learn about my culture
My Mom was a military brat, and lived in Japan for two years as a little girl. She gave me interest in learning about other cultures, and my interest in Japanese culture.
😊
Literally anyone would, except african Americans and a few white americans
...as an italian I'd be horrified
@@parabalaniracist
Yea yall are colonizers u don’t see the problem
I‘m from Berlin (Germany) and the moment someone respects (and appreciates) my place I like him so much more 💯
Berlin ist eine Gosse und deutsche Kultur ist abartig.
Hell yeah let's drink some hefeweisens my German brother. 🍻
wie läuft das ab? bietet man dir dann respektvoll schore an?
They Heil 😂
I loved Berlin. Wonderful city when I visited. I was there the year Germany won the world cup was nonstop partying.
Mr. Tanaka understands that not everyone gets it right, but making a big effort shows that you take him, his company, and the deal seriously.
There’s a clear distinction between appreciation and mockery. Americans have often caricaturized other cultures in the past, leading to an overcorrection where everything is deemed offensive nowadays. Kudos to the writers for highlighting this complexity.
Americans are obsessed with race and being offended for other cultures
I don't think I expected such a deep and well historically researched comment on RUclips Well done!
You're giving them too much credit. There really weren't any significant problems that brought about our perpetually offended class, its all about them and their need for attention.
@@oscarwilde5473 The best part is that I didn't even notice your previous comment until you decided to prove me right, out of the blue. Nicely done, 10/10
@@oscarwilde5473 Except it wasn't. You don't really seem to understand the words you're trying to use very well.
As an immigrant living in the United States, nobody gets more offended about cultural appropriation than Americans. Most people would respect you for respecting their culture.
Also, it is not at all disrespectful to inquire more about other’s cultures. I don’t know why people feel uncomfortable in the first place.
A comment made by Pochu summed it best. Look for that comment
More specifically, no one gets more offended than the American-born children of immigrants. They’re generally the LOUDEST about cultural appropriation, authenticity, and offensiveness. Immigrants tend to be more relaxed or even happy when Americans show interest.
Because of blackface. Now, the stupid people consider all kinds of "wearing other culture" is a form of "blackface".
So the point is, just another thing that happens in a stupid brain.
The problem then is, how such stupidity gain traction and becomes popular in the US. I guess as a free country, its people is free to be stupid
Because it is so ingrained to avoid such discussions. It becomes a minefield for conversations with so much political turmoil going on
The biggest problem with the whole offended about cultural appropriation thing are middle aged White women that feel personally attacked by something slightly out of their comfort zone.
Offensive for a Businessman - ❌
Awkward for a Common Man - ✅
Everybody can be/is common, but for some people it is about changing to being not normal,
Offensive to NPC Americans.
Considerate to the rest of the world
Nah just white people being offended for something that ain’t got any thing to do with them
Offensive to snowflakes
@@DirkShotojima No. 1 - I'm not American, and secondly, it's awkward to the Natives because they themselves don't wear it quite often, and it's out of place.
Here in India, Kurta, Dhoti and most of the other traditional outfits are reserved for special occasions, you won't see Indians roaming around in large numbers everyday in traditional attire, same goes for Japan too, they will laugh at you because they themselves wear T-Shirt with Jeans Most often.
Its amazing when other people invest their time and money into trying to understand your culture THE RIGHT WAY like he did here. Deep meaning and no big stereotypes involved. Sharing a drink. Amazing.
It’s honestly just very respectful to give someone comfort like that. It’s the gesture that really counts
Ah yes, those people who get offended on another's behalf
They are called “Progressive Liberals”
@@YevghenyArzhenovit's called having empathy. There's more to it but I feel like you have already made up your mind.
always the whites
@@DrDiabolical000 not really. Let people speak up if they are uncomfortable. Don't interfere unless they ask for your advocacy.
@@DrDiabolical000what gives you the right to impose your “empathy” on others. What mental gymnastics did you do to come to the conclusion that you can decide what others care about? I’m Asian btw. You should get a life, go to the gym, or something to make your life worth living.
He was right to serve green tea and show his appreciation of Tanaka San's Japanese heritage and culture. Shikoku is a beautiful Island. I have been there a few times.
@@michaelman6700 are you blind in addition to being stupid? the meeting is in 45 minutes but the guy arrived early
@@michaelman6700 No he poured it fresh because Louis knew the culture that Mike thought he didn't. It's a professional culture thing in East Asia to show up within an hour before the scheduled time to show their punctuality.
Honestly, if someone prepared those decorations my home is known for and show proper mannerism/etiquette like that, I would be very glad and feel appreciated.
It's called RESPECT. He's doing it RESPECTFULLY.
Me being Colombian, if I was doing that deal with Louis Litt, I would give him a hug and sign if he wore a ruana and a sombrero vueltiao and served me refajo or Santafe rum or aguapanela. That is super attentive and caring. Given the fact that I’m so home sick, I’d probably choke up and cry a bit out of happiness someone went out of their way to make me feel at home.
As a Brazilian, if he was dressing in a white linen bespoked suit, served a strong coffee, we had lunch in a churrascaria, and finished the deal drinking a caipirinha, BOY!
I worked for a Japanese musical intrument manufacturer. One day, the head of drum division visited me, and I made sure the very 1st thing I did was bow, which was returned. My colleague shook his hand, which wasn't well recieved. Learn about the places you go and the people you meet, it will be beneficial, not only to you, but to others too.
That is one thing I’ve learned everyone misses home. And if you can give them that feeling of home actual home there will be be a sincere gratitude.
It shows you respect them and are putting in extra effort to prove that. Of course they're going to like it.
“Mr Tanaka-san” is pretty much saying “Mr. Mr. Tanaka”
chai tea moment
Americanlized Japanese 😂
@@TheRedLaw😂
You mean Mr. Tanaka Mr.
@@TheRedLaw or naan bread moment 😅
Thankfully, Louis actually did his research and made sure to take notes of Mr. Tanaka's personal history to ensure it would not be offensive to him. Had he had some bootleg map of a town that didn't exist or said something nonsense or offensive with a fake kimono then Mr. Tanaka probably would have laughed in his face.
Although he is wearing it inside out lol Men's haori are plain on the outside and have elaborately decorated linings as a result of Edo era sumptuary laws. Dodging the law became a fashion statement which remains to this day. (Although ironically, this proves it's an authentic item because a touristy garment would have all the decoration on the outside)
@@sadakotetsuwan9229it’s more likely that he wore it inside out to show that the haori is genuine without needing to take it off. Arrogant, but on brand for his character.
@@sadakotetsuwan9229 He mentions it was gifted to his father by the Japanese student he lived with, it's possible that they taught him to wear it that way for some reason, or that the student didn't think it mattered
People of the culture see it for what it is. Respect and appreciation of said culture.
Having lived in Japan for almost 6 years i can assure you that they LOVE when you appreciate their culture. I spent my last 2 years of highschool over there and the first class i signed up for was Japanese. Man I miss Japan. Such a beautiful and wonderful place.
I haven't been there, but I had Japanese foster parents, direct from Japan, while I was growing up in Washington and Oregon. They were amazing people. I learned the beauty of the culture (think what it would be like to be raised by Mr. Miyagi, had his wife and son lived), and I showed them how to get along in American society. I got the better end of that trade off in my opinion...
Arigato gozaimasu, haha to chichi...
perfect example of the difference between respect and being offensive.
Respect is knowing about the culture and paying respect of it showing the other person that you spent the time to learn about their culture and or wanted to know more about it.
Being offensive is only doing surface parody of the culture and knowing nothing about it and making jokes about it without wanting to learn more about it.
Exactly.
This is the perfect explanation and i think most people on either side of this debate of offensive or not offensive dont realize this.
What I think people are missing here, is that Louis actually knew his stuff.
The key element here is that he "Did his homework."
He didn't just see something he thought was cool and think "Oh great. I'll have this."
@@benlowe1701 yeah. A lot of people are offensive and refuse to believe they are, and a lot of people are perfectly inoffensive but others claim they are.
If you take the time to learn about a culture and you embrace it with respect, it will be appreciated even if you miss the mark somewhat.
Most people like seeing their culture embraced. Its a good thing as long as you arent just appropriating the culture.
very well said
Rare Louis W
Extra rare LMAO love that guy haha
Actually not that rare - Harvey is half the man Louis is
There was another episode where in order to get hired by a hedge fund manager he set up multiple off shore tax shelters and even went so far as to get the mana Ferrari back that he lost to his ex-wife in their divorce. Another big Luis W.
If done improperly this could be respectful but this man’s attitude and approach showed nothing but the upmost respect for his culture and home.
Some cultures are perfectly fine with it as long as you're doing it as a gesture of good will.
At our company we had visitation from Korea we got an idea to buy some Korean candy to put on display alongside products we are importing. Visiting members not only noticed that but also hit us with "i know these, its a great touch i buy them back home". Its always good to show you appreciate other cultures and to be willing to share yours.
Louis Litt is one of the greatest TV show characters ever, his character development over the course of the show is amazing
What show?
Louis knows his stuff. Showing effort beyond the numbers in partnership is ESSENTIAL to standing out to a client. Even if it may seem silly, putting yourself out like that for a client shows them you are there for them, not the other way around. Would I suggest someone go out and do this in real life? Probably not, but this is another lesson a "simple reality show" can teach us about human behavior and charisma. Well done, louis.
Me entering an office overseas being greeted with beer and a meat pie. I'd be chuffed at the effort.
Aussie? 😂
@@チュンピア恵里香 yes 😀
if I went to a Japanese business meeting and they had cheeseburgers, iced cold cans of coke, all wearing cowboy hats and had a map of Texas, I'd feel home
See the difference is that he didn’t throw on a hanfu and mixed different cultures he actually knew the culture.
That is an important aspect in business is hospitality and making one feel comfortable
It’s more about respect than anything else, he did his best to make them feel welcome and comfortable
He’s sharing a nice moment with him expressing that he values their partnership
Not the “Mr. Tanaka-san” 😭
mister mr.tanaka
I wasn't sure and thought maybe I was wrong, so I scrolled through looking for someone to point it out.
People like it when you show a genuine interest in their culture and not just the popular stuff in it
Risky if you're wrong. Perfect when you're right
In case you are not familiar with it. maybe
Until 20 years ago, this was never a risky move. The only reason there's considered risk is because of modern American politics, and it's fucking stupid.
@@LyneaSilver its got jack shit to do with politics. if you try to imitate someone's culture and you do it wrong, you could be perceived as mocking them, and offended people don't do good business
@@chrisc9526 nope kiddo
@@bryceandriano4032 you gonna tell me why you think I'm wrong, or what?
I love Luis ❤️ he grows so much in the whole series, he is so honest and human with his emotions, many times he fuggs up BUT he's heart is so pure and in the right place that he can't do anything else then be the best character of them all, the more time passes and life goes on I come to truly appreciate his parsonage ❤❤❤
What series? I don't watch much television.
@joebudi5136 it's from a show called Suits
A business man who respects the culture of a fellow business man.
Louis was a surprising genuis in some scenes. Loved this show
"do you even know?" *starts explaining how they know* "here we go" this is too real
🙏🏽✊🏽showing love to cultures is dope
This scene says a lot about our society. We take anything offensive
The dude looked so happy when he saw everything. Just like
“Oh wow… I’m home”
An untraveled person would also think this is offensive.
Exactly Americans for someone reason take a lot of offense with everything, example when you wear other cultures clothes and walk in their nation. It's actually showing respect and not insulting
@@woundedidiot429 its the gen z trend. They are flowers easly hurted and got 0 understanding of the real world.
To much time learning from tiktok, instagrams and other social medias.
And then we have the "victims" who are trying to get the most benifits from it.
You do realize the main issue Mike had was that he thought Louis was just doing a generic Japanese imitation, right?
When he talked about knowing a Japanese exchange student, the assumption is meant to be that he thinks they're all basically like her. When he said he had a map of their home-town, the assumption is meant to be that he just got a map of the companies post code. Mike even said "Do you know about their culture??" with a dismissive tone.
When it turns out that Louis found a map of the home town region of *Tanaka,* That's when it suddenly became respectful. He did his homework, and did everything in his power to give respect to *that region* of Japan, and it showed.
Its also a big thing in Japan for foreigners to like their culture. When I was over in Yokosuka with the US Navy I got to experience some of this. I went to a music store to get some copies of my favorite bands (All from anime, shocking I know) and the store owner was so excited when I started asking for Maximum the Hormone and other weird Japanese bands. They really love seeing their culture respected by others.
"This is offensive," said the culture appropriation karen
They needed to give Louis more wins like this. I hated how every time Louis made some smart/ballsy move, it blew up in his face. If he messed up all the time, he wouldn't be a head of the company (even before he was a name partner).
remember kids: “cultural appropriation” is only a thing in the US… they’re the only crybabies in the world, getting offended for you and getting angry because you didn’t find offensive what got them offended. Everywhere else, this is an example of very thoughtful, very well received behavior
This is so true! All Asians, Mexicans, Arabs, Africans are happy and proud when foreigners embrace our/their culture.
Thats to protect their cultural power. For them, its offensive if they wear a kimono, or a mexican hat, but theres no offense if a japanese wear a nike shoe...
Cultural appropriation is a real thing that happens. When population of country A claims that some cultural element of country B say a musical instrument is actually traditional instrument of country A.
Like if Japanese claimed sth Korean.
Simply playing that instrument wouldn't be appropriation.
@@vahagntumanyan1305please can you give me a real example of cultural appropriation instead said country a or b?
@@vahagntumanyan1305exactly! The meaning of the words changed recently, now if you enjoy somebody else's culture, people from your own culture will get offended.
I never seen a Native American, Haïtian, Mexican, Guatemalan or Venezuelan get offended by this. (Those are the exemples I can give, since I've had such interactions with people I actually know from these countries)
Respect is a major thing for Japanese people. This here was a massive sign of respect.
The asian guy has a voice as smooth an oil on leather really nice
I’m glad the show didn’t always undermine Louis’s brilliance
The only gripe I'd have is the "Mister Tanaka-San". Mostly cuz it's redundant. Still good on him.
Yes, but also realistic.
One thing is if you do it without having any idea of what you are doing, other thing is when you do it because you know that is right and it’s a sign of respect
“Mr Tanaka-San” would have sent the guy right back out the door lmao😭
san is a way of showing respect it’s like saying sir
@@mid1429 You clearly aren't familiar with how NIHONGO (Japanese Language) works, so naturally you don't get the point @prithvimuratee1425 is trying to make.
@@mid1429yea so it’s like saying Mr Mr Tanaka
The line is so fine in professional circumstances especially between appropriation and showing respect.
One time I poured a drink for my South Korean friend while looking away since he's older than me and I saw something online. I wasn't perfect in the mannerisms. I wasn't trying to pretend it was me.
He told me that's why it meant so much and why we were friends from then on. Because I tried despite not being sure about it. Dunno if that's the difference generally speaking, but it's what made the difference for him.
All culture is appropriation, it's literally what culture is, literally by definition. Yes I repeated literally twice. The whole notion of "cultural appropriation" is braindeadism for braindead midwits who think they're smart because they have an IQ of 112
Culture = appropriation
This is the difference between cultural appreciation and appropriation
If someone had gone to that extent to make me feel comfortable and at home surrounded by my culture in a strange foreign place, I would cry with appreciation.
There’s a fine line between cultural appreciation and appropriation and Louis absolutely nails it. He was very respectful and not making fun of Mr. Tanaka at all.
Mr.- and -san
Aint no way
Mr to be respectful from an American standpoint. San to be respectful from a Japanese standpoint. It's not really that weird to anyone else other than people in the know. And it can absolutely be handwaved considering all the other things he's done to make Mr. Tanaka feel right at ease.
@@arthurfine4284 its an english prefix for respect and a japanese suffix for respect
So he basically said mr.mr.- or -San-San
@@brentgroen3204 I don't really see you disproving my point so...
@@arthurfine4284 you did not even make a point aside from "see in this tv show it worked, so it must work"
And even if it worked irl, it would be out of politeness from the japanese fella. And it would still be an incorrect use of pre-/suffixes
When I visited China for work, I made sure to study up on traditions for the work place and got shocked reactions whenever I did them naturally. Though the biggest shock everyone had about me was that I actually knew how to use chopsticks.
so true. you ever see a chinaman try to use a fork lmao? its hilarious.
dawg what 😂 chinese use forks all the time@@tehpurplepills
Oh god I could probably learn every Chinese language symbol and the entire history of every Chinese dynasty before I figure out those fkn sticks😂
He is right!
These men are far from home and seeing something familiar in an unknown place is welcoming.
Accurate description of "woke people getting offended on behalf of others calling it "cultural appropriation" and the actual cultural people loving that people are respecting their culture"
Calm down. That Japanese guy appreciated it. The next one might find it patronizing. The world’s a complicated place.
This is a tv series. Most people would get offended by some random CEO being dressed in a Kimono. Get some social skills.
@@jon8004 From my experience, I don't know a single person from the hundreds I've interacted with in my culture that wouldn't love to see someone wear our traditional clothing in public. I've heard similar things from my friends from different cultural backgrounds. The point is that most of us love it when others make an attempt to familiarize themselves with our culture, as long as they're obviously not mocking it.
@@herroyung857 Fair enough.
Asian n Africans like it when other people appreciate their culture as long as it's respectful.
Every normal person does
So do White people and everyone else in the world 😂
Yeah they love it until you have a face mask on and then get accused of black face. Or you’re better than them at their ‘culture’
Not African Americans. Or white Americans, getting offended 'on behalf of".
Now that I think of it, it's a north American thing.
@@vinito19 african americans arent the same as africans... most african americans are from the Caribbean. those with heritage from africa (senegal, nigeria, ghana, etc) will still call themselves african even if they live in north america. just an explanation
As someone who has done over 30 major contracts worth a total of about 50 million dollars...Traditionally religious sake is served after close as its good luck and meant to bless the deal. Otherwise drink for the end of negotiations. Tea is not served in this was in Japan. This is closer to a Chinese tea ceremony where they do use tea for ceremonial and business transactions. The haori is just over the top. Anyone would be thinking weird gaijin otaku but would say nothing.
Wrong, the negotiations will be held in the golf course, lol 😂
Interesting, thank you
@@saltymonke3682no that's the warm up prep, they love doing jello shots
extreme cultural accommodation is viewed poorly by most nations. Moderate amounts i.e. shaking hands vs. bowing, and using the appropriate address is viewed positively. So the research would support your experience
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もし自分に起こったら、間違ったおもてなしでも変だなとは思うかも知れないけど、それよりも自分のためにわざわざ用意してくれた優しさが嬉しいよ
Well what Mike was spot on about is that Dominic did find out and fired them 😂
...and hired them back. Release full story.
@@ebenezerafuapelol right, OP tried to fool us telling half story
Despite the generalized fear for cultural misappropriation, East Asians usually like westerners trying to respectfully imitate their culture. We like seeing Westerners trying but mispronouncing our language, we think it's cute. Only in US or Europe, native speakers are condescending towards those that are not fluent in their language... Such ambience might be contributing to the fear of cultural misappropriation - "when you are not one of them, don't try to imitate them as you can get mocked". Whereas, not proficient in someone else's culture is perfectly fine.
Only West Europe. If you come and try to speak a Slavic language here in the Balkans, you'll be greatly appreciated :D
@@dimitar.bogdanovI am Dutch, I don't mind people trying either. As long as it is genuine. I know Dutch is a hard language, if they just greeted me in Dutch I would value that very highly, that shows effort.
The difference between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation is one is done with respect for the initial culture while the other is done to mock or disrespect the culture.
In spite of what a lot of western progressives think it's possible and pretty common to imitate the culture of another in a respectful way as long as it's done sincerely.
I saw a video of an American dressed in clothing respecting Mexican culture and he asked Americans if it was offensive and they were like yeah it's racist he needs to take it off he went to Mexico dressed like that and asked it they're offended and they all said no why would they be he's showing respect to their culture
1st off I’m Mexican. And I do find it offensive when clowns like to dress up with a fcking charro hat and dress as a stereotypical 18th century peasant as if we’re all dressed like that. Or worst when they like to use our cultural aesthetics and food and drinks like Tacos & Tequila to profit from our culture - Can’t stand those celebrities with their own Tequila brands, buying our fields, tarnishing the drink’s flavor with mediocre taste just to increase profits or the crap “Mexican” fast food restaurants with crap Mexican food.
It doesn’t bother me if an Anglo or Afro-American performs Mexican song or wears a Mexican football (soccer) jersey - that’s appreciation. But that’s just my opinion, unlike other Mexicans, I won’t be speaking for them.
And Mexican-Americans are VERY different to Mexicans from Mexico. Many Mexican-Americans can’t even speak proper Spanish or even been to Mexico, probably don’t even eat tortillas, they eat with forks and spoons, so I don’t wanna hear their opinion because they’re as Mexican as Taco Bell.
Funny thing about people interviewing Mexicans in Mexico regarding if the outfit is offensive or not, is that they NEVER explain to Mexicans, the topic of cultural appropriation - they just bait them with a yes or no question. Mexicans are extremely nationalistic and patriotic, if they knew what cultural appropriation was, which is a topic that is seldom discussed about in Mexico, then they would absolutely find it offensive. Mexicans don’t find it funny that Americans are trying to steal more of what they have. They still hold a huge grudge over the Mexican territory taken by US, and why to this day, only Mexican can buy property bordering the US and every student is taught about that long lost Mexican territory.
Ari Horowitz! He's awesome!!!!!
As a Mexican American let me tell you he was not respecting our culture, he was dressed in stuff we sell to tourists. Hence why nobody saw anything wrong
That same dude also dressed like a stereotypical indian, something INDIANS were the first to call out & continue to call out. & then claimed it wasn’t offensive because he put the camera on a group of a few kids and they said no. So the video is selective-compilation at best.
Now while some clothing is "ceremonial" clothes are clothes. This idea people have that dressing in another culture’s normal clothes is "offensive" is so idiotic it's beyond pathetic.
Mr. Tanaka is a butler in Sonic X
If I walked into a business meeting in Japan and there was Texas barbecue ribs, Kentucky Fried Chicken, and everyone was wearing football jerseys, I would go fuckin nuts. I can only imagine Japanese people feel the same when their culture is represented similarly.
I think intent is really important. There's a difference between trying to immitate a culture to smooze out some brownie points, and then there's genuine appreciation for culture. Now, IRL, would a japanese tycoon appreciate a wearing a kimono over an office suit? No idea.
reminds me of a story from our english teacher : if a Japanese hands u his card its a sign of respect dont just carelessly pocket it but show that u value it by carefully giving it a specific spot in your wallet
Our teachers friend did that and was ignored for the rest of the evening while teach who was careful with the card got along great
Also when they hand you the card, use both hands to receive the card and look over it before putting into your wallet.
@@LoganEgnor Oh right ty for adding that
The key to showing respect without fear of offense is to *mean it.*
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