What is the best pizza oven, precast or steel, wood or gas?
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2021
- This video is designed to help you choose between a wood fired or gas fired oven and a pre-cast/brick or stainless steel oven. I light up and cook in both and explain the differences and time needed to set up and cook. There is an oven type to suit everyone and I hope this helps you make the right decision before spending on such a long term investment.
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The best side by side explanation of these two types of ovens! Wow I have watched dozens of videos but until yours I still didn't get it! Maybe I am just a bit thick in the head :) Thank you so much
Thanks John, I appreciate your comments and I’m glad the video helps.
Thanks for all your videos, very informative!
Very very helpful! Thank you!
you explained it very well, makes a hell of a difference in decision making, wood or gas
Thanks for the video mate. You are legend !!
Thank you, great video presentation .
Thanks, this was very informative. Loved the call out to Vito Iacopelli
Great job showing the difference between the two ovens. I am leaning toward a dual fuel oven but this was very informative. Cheers
Thank you, dual fuel is a good choice.
Thank you for this informative video
Very helpful… well done!
Thank You for the video
Great job!! well done !!
Great video thanks
Thank you!
Very helpful video. Thank you!
Thank you.
Thank you.🎉
Great review, thank you. Now I know need 2 ovens haha
Great video! Looking forward to more in the future.
Hi Roberto, excellent video.
What length is that round peel you are using in this video?
Thanks
It has a 20cm round peel with a 100cm long handle. 120cm overall.
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Thanks Roberto! Keep up the great work! Love all your informative videos!
Thanks
thanks man
Grazie!
I am surprised that you had my thoughts put into action on the Alfa oven. I was wanting to put water in a pot for that steam action. Great move. Now I can plan to get the Alfa oven. I am planning on the Moderno 3 pizza oven dual fuel so if I want to go wood on occasion, it is possible. Thank you for your very precise demonstration! I am now prescribed to your great channel !!!!
Thank you for your comment. If you are in Australia check out the Napoli Oven Co. Range, they are better in my opinion.
I like the wood oven because it goes with my routine of walking around in the woods in Upstate NY - now when I hike around the woods I gather apple, oak, hickory for the next pizza.
Yes it’s hard to beat wood fired cooking.
Coal fired ovens are the best of all of them
great looking pizzas
Thank you
Good Video! Greetings from Naples , Florida!
I’m so hungry now !
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I'm about to build my own Stainless steel gas oven
thats why the steel oven should have another burner under the stone , to head the oven faster up
Thank you for sharing your video I really enjoyed it👍👍👍what material is your casted wood oven made off?
Hi, they are made of refractory cement in Sydney, I’m not sure of the exact mix.
Thanks for the video, I already decided to get a gas oven. Now I'm trying to decide between the Alfa One or the Alfa Brio, I normally make 4 pizzas every other week but I'm currently using a bakerstone pizza oven box so for that the Alfa One will do but with the brio I could probably do more and switch between gas and wood. What do you think? I'll love to see a comparison between the Alfa One and the Alfa Brio...
Hi Roberto, the Alfa One on gas is perfect for pizza, but I would recommend the Brio if you wanted to do some slow cooked meat roasts or other wood fired dishes. They both cook pizza's in 90 seconds and I generally only cook 1 at a time so if it was just pizza, either would be fine in my opinion.
Roberto, I am applying for the job of taster...when do I start? :)
The comparison between gas and wood ovens was very thorough - thanks.
Thanks Benny, I appreciate your comments.
@@pizzaovens-fornieri You didn't answer my question - when do I start? :)
I have a position as visual tastar if your interested.
Beautiful ovens snd beautiful pizza’s. Very informative.
Why does the gas oven have a chimney?
Thank you. The chimney is there so you dont breathe in the fumes. If oven is installed indoors, the chimney must go to the outside atmosphere.
If there's combustion, there's exhaust, stuff you don't want to be breathing
love the comparison - lead me to purchase a stainless steel oven (working, low time, want to use it during the week). Any more videos around new ovens, or using ovens in the pipeline Roberto?
Thank you Tim, yes I will be doing some more in the next few months focusing more on stainless steel ovens, I have been lazy. Thank you for your comment and enjoy.
@@pizzaovens-fornieri Brilliant news! (I wouldn't call it lazy, life can be pretty demanding!) Will keep an eye out for the new vids!
also - I note the Alfa Ciao video is down, was intending on showing a mate the benefits of a steel wood oven re: heat up time. (all good if it had to come down!)
Hi Tim, I have had some trouble with Alfa and I’m not going to promote their products anymore. They are a very good product but I’ve had some issues with the company that’s all. Regards Roberto.
@@pizzaovens-fornieri ahh fair enough. Looking forward to the new videos 👍
Thoughts on the stainless wood burning FORNO VENETZIA TORINO 200??
Hi, I have never seen one in person but it looks like a nice oven. Sorry I can’t confirm anything.
Ciao Roberto, from Vancouver! When you put the bread in, did you put a tin of water as well?
Hi, yes I put a tin of water in as well, it will help with the crust.
Hi Roberto! Another quick question.. Is there a cover to put over gas to do wood on the alfa one ? Just like the brio? If I wanted to do wood on the gas one oven..
Hi Rocco, no gas cover for the one because there is not enough floor space left if you have a wood rack in it as well.
@@pizzaovens-fornieri gotcha ok thanks !!
Like Vito says - "Wood is wood"
For a while there, I thought I'd dropped into a bread baking show...
Would love to know what model your precast oven is
Hi, it’s a calabrese 800 from The Woodfired Co. made in Sydney Australia.
Any chance we can get your dough recipe? The pizza base and crust are exactly how I like it.
Hi, this is a poolish recipe and is best done with a mixer. Here is the video link and the recipe is bellow. ruclips.net/video/U-jL-0vdENg/видео.htmlsi=9Btu0TF4ptjGsUot
Recipe Makes 4 x 280g dough balls: Stage 1 Poolish (10 mins)
425g cold tap water, 425g 00 Flour, 2.5kg fresh yeast or 1.5g dry instant yeast. Mix all together and refrigerate min 12hrs to max 24 hrs.
Stage 2 Dough (40 minutes)
Put Poolish in Mixing Bowl, Add 240g 00 Flour little by little and mix at low speed for 10 minutes, Increase speed and add 20g sea salt little by little, then add 75g cold tap water little by little, then add 15g extra virgin olive oil little by little and continue mixing at a higher speed until the dough is 24Celsius. Move onto bench, fold a few times then put it in a bowl covered for 30 minutes on the bench and then move it into the fridge for min 4hrs to maximum 24 hrs in fridge (I prefer 12 hrs).
Stage 3 Dough Balls. Make 4 x 280g or 5 x 240g dough balls, put in a box covered for a min 4 hrs to 8 hrs if a cold day. You can put the balls in the fridge for up to 24 hrs as well and take out 2 hrs before use.
@@pizzaovens-fornieri You're a legend, thank you for sharing this. I love you channel and your videos.
By any chance do you the diameter of the wood oven? I guess a smaller one will heat faster, right? I was planning to build a 60 cm internal diameter oven
Hi my oven is an 80cm internal. Yes smaller will heat up quicker.
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How do you go using the alfa "indoors" have you got a flue going through roof?
Hi, if indoors yes you must extend the flue on a wood fired oven. If its a gas fired oven you need to check compliance requirements and some Alfa ovens dont work with extended flues.
Se ho ben capito, come è logico aspettarsi, il forno in acciaio ha poca inerzia termica perché è meno isolato, quindi si riscalda e raffredda più velocemente. Dovendo fare con questo 4/8 pizze in successione si deve attendere tra una pizza e l'altra o si va spediti? Di quanti kg consigli la capienza della bombola GPL? 3-5-10kg o più? Ti ringrazio tanto se hai modo di rispondere e complimenti per il pane e la pizza
Ciao e grazie. Sì, è meglio mettere la porta mentre prepari la pizza successiva, ci vogliono solo due minuti per andare a terra per fare di nuovo caldo. Suggerisco un cilindro di gas da 9-10 kg, il forno userà 1 kg di gas in 2 ore.
I’m a little confused that you say the wood and gas oven take the same amount of time to heat up 🤷🏼♀️ if you hadn’t baked bread first in the gas oven at a low temp, then the pizzas would have been ready to cook hours earlier. (I have a steel/gas oven that reaches floor temp of 400c within 15/20 mins) Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant.
Hi Louise. Yes you are correct in saying the Alfa oven would have heated up quicker if I didn't cook the bread first and this oven usually takes about 30-40 minutes to get a floor temperature of 400C. Generally speaking, I have found that ovens heat up in around the same amount of time, whether I am using gas or wood as the fuel. The time taken to reach 400C on a floor will depend on the type and size of the oven.
Bonjour, j'ai un four à pizza alpha au bout de la 3 fois,la peinture à cloque sur le dessus, qualité minable malgré l'achat d'une housse à 110€.
Sorry I don’t sell the Alfa ovens anymore. You should ask them to replace the parts, it has 2 yrs warranty.
Hello,
To begin with, know that I am French-speaking. My English being relatively limited, I use Google Translations. So please excuse me for any mistakes this will produce. I hope it will still be sufficiently understandable.
If I understood correctly what you explain in your video, it would be possible to obtain the taste of cooking with wood in a gas oven by simply putting a log in the gas oven. If that's it, I imagine that instead of the log, we could put sawdust and at the same time easily vary the flavor by varying the types of sawdust.
Let me explain the reason for my question. Currently, I am looking for an oven to cook pizzas but also breads and food in general. I want a metal oven and not brick because I want an oven so the weight is not completely excessive. If for the pizza, the fact of cooking with wood does not bring anything from the point of view of flavors, the cooking being too fast, it is not the same for breads or dishes with long cooking (stews for example) . So I was considering buying a hybrid oven. But if it is possible to solve the problem by putting wood or sawdust in a gas oven, that greatly simplifies my search.
In any case, thank you very much for your videos which are really very instructive.
Best regards
Thank you.
@@pizzaovens-fornieri And can you confirm that I understood correctly and that we could give the taste of smoke in a gas oven with sawdust?
@@toucheatoutencuisine I have never tried this so I don't know. Keep in mind that smoke is hot and hot air rises so the smoke will never be near the floor of the oven, it is always higher than the floor because fresh cold air comes into the oven from the floor level which pushes the smoke up off the floor.
Can you use a smoker in the gas oven
Hi Mike, sorry I missed this message, yes you can but you should cover the gas burner when its not in use to stop ash or fats depositing on the gas burner which can block things up.
bro can you give me idea to built
Hello, please look at my Youube channel, there is a how to build video there. I hope that helps.
You haven’t cooked on the wood yet, is it because it’s not hot enough yet?
Hello, yes I cook on wood at the end of the video.
shut up and take my money "i don't careee i love it"
The best pizza ovens are made from titanium
If you use gas is it considered wood fired oven haha. Wood is the only way to go
What a crock of crap , the precast is going to take longer to heat up because it's SO MUCH BIGGER THAN YOUR STEEL OVEN . You didn't really want to help people choose ,you want people to buy your steel oven because it's easier for you to build ,and it's a bigger profit margin compared to the precast version. Plus wood ovens ALWAYS MAKE BETTER FOOD, so they aren't the same, and your products ARE WAY OVER PRICE !
I didn’t think i favoured one over the other, I personally use both depending on the occasion but I appreciate your comments.
Facts! Ever true Napoleon pizza 🍕 is cooked over an authentic wood 🪵🪓 brick 🧱 oven that will last four generations vs the stainless steel that you will have to service and repurchase again within 5-10 years.
P.S. My local Pit BBQ joint has been grilling BBQ on the "same" wood brick and motor grill since they first opened 90 years ago!
That’s a good point, thanks for your comment.