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Great video! Now I just gotta figure out why the heck my mods are falling so short. But believe you me... I will break into the next number of tens of thousands soon.
Fateful strike is a must have with Shrapnel Souvenir and the weighting mod, you can reach the point where you literally have infinite magazine even on the dummy. Also for that build i'd recommend Beret, more consistent bullet refund procs.
finally found an honest guide who shows the real damage with multiple mags and not just a one mag dump like all the others out there who just go look at my dps lol. Great video it's basically my build and i'm on the eu servers waiting for pro to open and i have a question you are using canned meat for your food buff but wouldn't the bread be a better buff giving 25% weapon damage ?
ngl I haven't seen the bread. I tested the shrapnel damage from the canned meat and it is a muliplicative bonus. all separate from gas helmet and obliterate. I don't know why. With that being said I'd have to crunch some numbers to see if 25% from bread is better. We don't always trigger shrapnel either. It's hard when there's so many different factors from memetics cradle too lol
A legendary weapon fragment from another weapon (ex: DE.50 - Jaws) would give 30 xp, but if it's from the same weapon it gives double xp for the purpose of lvling up blueprints. An Epic weapon fragment would give 10 xp. So while buying the 2k epic pistols would be better than buying the 8k DE.50 - Jaws ,for lvling up a last valor blueprint the best thing to buy would be more last valor.
+100% weakspot weight reads exactly as it should. if the default is a 10% chance for shrapnel to hit a weakspot the mod would make it 20%, aka a 100% increase. making that 10 up just for easy math but its perfectly clear.
Thanks for the in depth analysis. It looks like the gas mask definitely helps the explosive shrapnel build. I'm using souvenir right now, can top out around 50k on the dummy. It's definitely a sustained DPS build more than a burst build, and you have to get accustomed to aiming at the body (not weakspots) so the 100% weakspot weight mod triggers on the weakspot. Let me say weakspot some more. It's definitely a different way to play. I put up a video of my build on my channel doing hard mode treant with the build with about 40% base crit and 100% crit damage, so I'm missing A LOT of base crit damage, but still managed to melt the boss in 15 seconds.
@@thiccfila Are you using a different calibration on your Last Valor? Not sure if I missed it in the vid. I'm running a Rapid Shot Style which gives 20% fire rate but -10% attack. I'm not sure if that is better or the Precision Style which gives -10% fire rate but 20% attack. I'm also curious what your base stats are with your explosive shrapnel build. You melted Treant in a magazine lol
@@thiccfila I have a fast fire setup with double crit, bastille boots and beret with falcon set, all I have mod wise is shrap souvenir on the gun, shrapnel carnage on mask, fateful strike on helmet as shrapnel is NOT affected as you know, and it double-scalars multiplicatively instead of additively with crit, crit boost on gloves, deadshot on pants, covered advance on shoes, remember that you picked reload and mag size perks on your setup which is completely invalidated by shrapnel souvenir which with a 80 round mag can easily fire 500 rounds before reloading if you don't miss, all of my mods have weapon damage, status damage, damage to great ones, and mag size, i get 120k on the dummy after bullseye crossbow and can fire for over a minute without reloading, every boss dies minus arachsiam dies insanely fast, beret is absolutely better for both burst and duration dps when you have sharpnel souvenir in the mix, without souvenir your build is better, it's critical to making the infinite ammo scaling damage actually loop.
@@meowxeno Have almost an identical setup to yours, only difference is using lonewolf instead of falcon and I seem to get a similar 120-130k. Always top damage in any group content as well. The Multiplicative DMG stacking goes crazy.
I have 4p Lone, 1p Bast and the Berret, really good mods all fully upgraded everyone has crit dmg and 80% of them dmg to great ones. All blueprints 1* still as you dont want to upgrade anything until you see season 2 recipes so don't do it, like not even once. Anyway, Target dummy sustained DPS of 57k with not a single reload (something is happening that's making something do insane dps I am sure one of the mods is broken) using the unlimited clip set up, bosses well over 100k litrally have max rolled boss dmg on most mods. I am missing maybe 4 BIS secondary single stats on some mods which I have more chance god shows up and say 'ow hi I am actually real' Orange ammo used, Purple ammo netted me 51k on dummy. Deviant was wolf, and tactical was ofc used. Great thing about this game is so many weapon builds work really well, UB is amazing, Frost is awesome, Shock absolutely rips! I feel a lot of the builds are all super fun and super strong.
i havent really tried this game more but from what ive seen with all the different build options it seems neat, shrapnel i feel like is pretty underused in games so its cool you can dedicate whole builds to it also hi thicc hi hiiii :3
It's because shrapnel was so brokenly powerful in beta 2 with div-evo that nothing came even remotely close to it, and it pissed a lot of people off. So now it feels like it's under the other options, but still viable.
'triggers' and shrapnel 'hits' are 2 different things. Beret does not increase triggers. It just applies more shrapnel 'hits'. Simply put, normaly a trigger procs 1 shrapnel hit, but beret adds +1 hit. therefore thats 100% damage increase. Gas mask doesnt add an aditional hit, but increases the damage by 120%. so obvious gas mask has a 20% higher damage output over beret.
Pretty sure the shrapnel hit weight thing is not priority for hitting weakspots, but rather how hard the shrapnel hits the weakspot. As seen when testing at 10:17, your weakspot shrapnel hits for 1700 something. Then, when testing the Carnage mod at 15:55, your weakspot shrapnel hits for 2200 something. So there could be a very interesting build with Carnage and weakspot damage :)
@@Mio-- again, explain to me how you think “shrapnel hit weight” means weakspot priority? I even looked back at the footage, and he does not get any more shrapnel weakspot hits with the mod on, than without. Only thing that changes is how much damage the weakspot shrapnel does.
Great vid. I must ask though, why are you comparing DPS on the Shrapnel Souvenir build? The proc doesn't increase your DPS gain, but rather your sustain. As a result, wouldn't it be better to test your DPM comparison?
If you’re high crit, the beret hits 4 shrapnel Cage helm only hits 3 shrapnel on crit Gas mask hits 3 on crit I believe the overall calculations ended with cage helm as weakest, then beret, and finally gas mask as 10% stronger than beret
I think due to mistranslations people aren't testing the CAGE helmet but I believe the cage should do more since the actual translation for SOCR - Last Valor is Shrapnel on every fourth hit not 4% with crits counting as two hits. CAGE adds +1 to Trigger count meaning you have shrapnel on every 2 hits
Im actually using Cage,what it does is, doing 2 sharpnel like beret, but it count 2 times for the explosion mod(from the mask) meaning it procs every 10 times instead of 20. Way better for pvp and maybe even for pve
I run a very similar build with targeted strike instead of explosive shrapnel (with beret). The dummy dps caps out around 70k. A bit more burst but suffers in heavy sustain scenarios (these currently don't exist afaik). With so many bosses having immunity phases, there's always time to reload the xbow to be ready for the next phase.
I actually started using the blue bulls eye shotgun, which doesnt get crit rate but applies bulls eye more consistently and more frequently, im using that mask mod now. i didnt like it with the bow because i dont think i apply it enough
It might be somewhere, but do you have a list of the names of each piece of armor itself and where to get? Like, I can catch a few of the names, I could not tell what set the pants were from. I also can't find where to get that gas mask version, the shop only has the hood version, which is not the same ability. This could be due to the server I am on, as we are only on week 3, but the wish games don't cover the helmet from what I can tell and I have no idea if it is with a vendor or not. Thanks in advance. Edit: Also, does having a mod on your melee weapon help stats at all?
A few questions. You say all mods tested. That is not true at all from what I have seen of your video. You seem to advise using mods that you have found rather than ones that are better that you just have not found/aquired yet is this true? You say the bonuses on the crossbow mod for bullseye does not matter but this is also not true. My 12% reload speed says otherwise. You are using precision mods that are weakspot rather than violent which are crit specific which is better for shrapnel yes? Many questions which would be nice to be answered, cheers.
My preference is the KAM Pioneer over the SOCR imo. Mostly just because my KAM has a maxed out blueprint and I like the 30% shrapnel chance / 60% shrapnel damage buff it has
A lot of people talk about the purple SMG, but that assault rifle caught my eye honestly. When I tried it on the dummy it wasn't even near the DPS of the SOCR. I think SOCR being able to get more shrapnel based on crit rate is insane, since you can manipulate it with good mods. However, I'm willing to go try it more, it looks cool.
@@thiccfila To be clear, he's talking about the AR Pioneer. Same weapon type as the Last Valour, but the blue one. Div-evo is the purple SMG shrapnel weapon.
Yeah what navy said. It's the blue rarity AK. That being said my blueprint is maxed out so the damage difference isn't huge compared to my 2 star SOCR blueprint, plus I get 10 more rounds in the mag
Once you buy outright from the Wish Shop, that item becomes "owned" and you cannot buy another copy. I also believe it unlocks the BP, and not fragments. So no getting frags to level that way.
@@crimesguy That's not what we're talking about. He said specifically to aim for buying multiple copies of gun from the shop (G on the machine, not F). Which is quite clear by my explanation that you replied to.
Have you tried Caibration BPs? I'm torn between Rapid Shot and Precision. But when I tried Rapid Shot on the Last Valor, my DPS increased noticeably to 70k whereas it only reached around 60k with Precision. Both Calibrations are 2x Crit Rate. Dunno maybe you have different results.
yes we know. Cage helmet is +1 trigger count. TRIGGER. it doesnt proc any extra damage or anything. it just a counter. its trash with current mods. probably expect new stuff in the future
Hey Awesome build!. got a question if you use fateful strike and then recurve crossbow does that negate the effect since you can no longer hit weakspot?
DO NOT buy those pistols to feed to your rifle. When you buy them flat out like that, it does not give you fragments, it gives you the blueprint pre-fused. You can only purchase them flat out like that one time for this very reason.
I finally got Shrapnel Souvenir to drop and added it to my build. My overall damage for hard mode instances went from around 600k to almost 2 million. Not having to constantly reload is unreal. You just don't realize how much overall dps you lose because of reloading. Yes you will do more burst damage but when you are doing boss fights and you don't have to constantly reload it really makes a difference. Not to mention that if you happen to have to do a dodge roll during a boss fight and you are reloading then it interrupts the reload. In real world playing I think Souvenir wins hands down. My opinion but if you happen to get it to drop try it out, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Oh, and looking at your numbers again if you look at total damage between reloads you are doing very close to double the overall damage per reload with Souvenir. Now unless you are taking down hard mode, or pro mode bosses in less than a minute I think having to reload less often and doing more consistent damage overall is much better, in my humble opinion ;)
just got the last mod I was looking for but I run a similar build but I don't have the gas mask so I'm using beret, I use shrapnel souvnir, fateful strike, shrapnel carnage, crit boost, covered advance and deadshot all violent, all mods maxxed, 4 piece lonewolf with 1 piece bastelle all 6/6 i top out at 66k with wolf proc and crossbow, about 1.7M damage done after wolf ends. Not really sure if the gas mask would actually do more in my setup or not though tbh
@@NehemiahTheVampire93 Thank you for the details! I have enhanced my mods to 5/5 too. I hit 50% crit rate, 110 crit dmg, and my base dmg is 510 ish. I’m maxing out at 30K DPS. Still only half of your DPS.
I'm commenting this on every shrapnel build youtube because when I search for "once human beret location" I get nothing. Please make a video on how to attain these pieces of armor please. Thank you.
I agree. I was really just debunking people who were saying it didn't let you get more than 1 shrap, and that it wasn't better than beret. It is, but just marginally. Probly not worth the stardust, but also that very first clip probly isn't possible with beret. I've killed that wolf with so many setups so many times.
as someone have who have just played the game for what it's and not farmed or such, aiming for next reset to get bp for the scar. and the crossbow mod and the rest of the mods can it drop from normal? just takes longer time? until i get better gear.
Id honestly say ,dont bother ,all other meta builds are stronger then Shrapnel at this moment. Maybe it changes next season but for now its the weakest.
I don't like that one with bow because a lot of bosses or enemies have hteir weakspots hidden for a time. Like against the dog kill in the beginning I'm not even marking him until his first weakpoint, and I don't even do it again. However I just found a blue shotgun which just marks enemies on a % and I'm trying that mod now, it's a great option with that shotgun IMO.
@@thiccfila theres a purple pistol that doesnt need weakspots and also a gold sniper. Marking without weakspots insnt a problem with the right setup. Its jus a matter of if it does more damage to use that mask mod and as far as I understand it does, but could be wrong.
it increases triggers. so it works with explosive shrapnel making it only need 10 triggers to proc instead of 20. with the current mods its the worst choice
@@tykobray4132 yes obviously but that's not what was shown in the video. I was correcting bad information. the video said you could just buy multiples from the blueprint shop and the 1st time will give you the BP and the other times will give you fragments for it and that's just categorically wrong.
Im so sorry that i triggered you, but overall it was worth another video. Btw After saw your video im still sure that cage helmet was better, because it trigger your mod mask every 10 sharnpel instead of 20 , and still it for 3 sharpnel like beret. But i think there are many translation problem in the game, for example i dont expect the mask to cap all sharpenl trigger except the criticals one.
lol I was messing around, thanks for being here :). Tons of people were commenting this and I assume it's from someone who made videos from the beta. I haven't tried the cage helmet at all man. So much starchrom required
There's a mask mod called Targeted strike that adds 10% crit rate and 25% crit dmg to marked enemies. Have you done any testing to see if explosive shrapnel is better?
depends if you want general gameplay or boss bursting. You can reach 110k dps with shrapnel using Targeted strike. (on the dummy, its more against bosses)
Sup! What calibration attribute on weapon? I got the one with 60% mag -30% reload speed, Crit rate +5.5% and +7.2%. With All mods equipped i got 62 rounds now.
The magazine attachment you want to find the one that puts more ammo in it. Otherwise I just max out stability. I'm not sure if stability is particularly the best stat to go for but it works for me.
@@thiccfila Range increases the minimum damage multiplier. Higher Range = More Damage stays Closer to the Max Damage you can do. Huge difference between 50 Range and 90 Range. Try it.
You'd lose a lot of crit. It's 30% from the recurve bow. Without it you'd have to give up Explosive Shrapnel to get 10% crit hitting marked enemies on your mask. And probably take the 15% crit glove mode rather than 10% crit with crit DMG. And also the no weakspot damage for 10% crit. In this way, you'd only be missing 5% of the crit he's using in this build. The question is how much the crit dmg would be closing the gap? The weakspot boost would be wasted on Bingo with the helm taking away weakspot damage. But you'd get a gauranteed bullseye on weapon swap. And sniper would be more use than just bossing. There is also the question of "good" enough. If you can kill a boss in 18 seconds rather than 14 seconds. That could be "good enough" for you.
I don't know if other people posted this but you can't buy the weapons multiple times.. only once and it unlocks the blueprint, it doesn't actually give you the fragments .. sadly
It's good to deversify weapons dmg but crit dmg and weakspot dmg dont multiply they add to the other, only weapon dmg multiply with the other two so deversify dmg is good with weapon dmg and other sources of dmg that scale with it.
yes I explained that in my last video. What I was trying to say in this one when it came to fateful strike vs momentum up, is that you don't always control what bonus you have on the bottom. Some of your mods may likely have some weakspot here or there, so using momentum up at least allows you to not miss out on damage thats already there. also I believe it is stronger anyway, although need to do further testing. also it provides gun damage, and we have tons of crit anyway.
Beret and mask are both good, the beret is good with souvenir for infinite mag, the mask is good for explosion proc. I crafted both and switch between them just for fun 😁 the only difference with you is the dead shot mod, I killed countless time the fridge boss, but I got only purple dead shot no gold… am I unlucky or im farming the wrong boss?
Unlucky, I had a purple one for a while too :). I think I'm posting shrapnel souvenir next. It's very very fun, I just wanted the clickbait high damage video. Maybe I can make souvenir do more :)
@@thiccfila this build is already op, people always complain for nothing without testing, leave them talk bro, amazing explanation and amazing choise between two style of gameplay. As you said, 1st is good for enemy with lot of weakspot to refill mag, 2nd is good for enemy with less weakspot and have a constant dps without relaying on rng mag fill proc. Waiting for new scenario, meanwhile going for dead shot gold still 😂
I have all the good mods, but cant get those mods to drop with weapon dmg and crit dmg. So my damage tops out at about 21k on the mannequin. Only 2 star on the SOCR blueprint as well.
I think they are very similar in terms of damage. I don't see a reason why one is better than the other regardless of damage reasons? I felt momentum up was slightly better, but I had a fateful strike from my first build since I found it first, and it performed just fine.
@@thiccfila I won't put effort into finding a Fateful strike over my momentum then. Really appreciate the content you're putting out! Makes it very easy even for new players to somewhat understand how the build works.
the wish Mashine BUT one Thing which is crucial. We are thinking that another SOCR BP will upgrade its Weapon to tier 2 right ? It is wrong, i tested it, pulled another BP from it and it like 5-10% Missing to make it happen. So BP is like 150, your Weapon is 160 ... such a big Fail - keep in Mind, one BP isnt enough .... ;-) and if this means the same for other Weapons Upgrades too, then u will waste alot of SC by trying ..
@extbr3akz so it will take multiple seasons to get it upgraded? Lol. What a weird design decision. I wonder if some of the other weapons will be better then since you can get them to drop. That's a huge damage loss for the SOCR.
I mention at the end of hte video not to buy another SOCR. I believe you just need beyonder blue prints, there are two purple pistols in the machine which only cost 2000. When the next phase starts I will try this, if you want to wait before risking starchrom. It starts in less than 2 days
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Weapon1: Scor last valor. Weapon mod: obliterate -Violent (Crit dmg)(Weapon dmg)(Mag Cap)(Boss dmg)
Weapon2: Recurve Crossbow. Weapon mod: Vulnerability Amp.
Gear: Gas-Tight Helmet OR Beret + 4 Lonewolf + 1 Bastille.
Important Stats: Crit dmg, Crit Rate, Mag Cap, Weapon dmg, Boss dmg.
Gear mods:
Helmet: Momentum up OR Fateful Strike (Drop from Silo Alpha)
Mask: Explosive Shrapnel (Drop from Silo EX1)
Glove: Crit Amp OR Crit Boost (Violent) (Drop from Silo Sigma)
Shoes: Covered Advance OR Blue Crit dmg (Drop from Silo PHI)
Top: Blue Crit dmg (Drop from Silo Sigma Normal)
Pants: Deadshot (Precison) (Drop from Silo PSI)
Memetics Override:
Automatic Weapon Enhanc.
Master Tactical.
Rapid Aid.
Sprint.
Tactical Combo.
Deviation Master.
Deadly Combo.
Bullet Hunt.
Legend. This is what we need.
Damn bro thankyouu
@@L4DReaver glad to help :D
@@pinkranger-hu6pd no problem xD
Bloody legend!
Honestly the mod on the recurve crossbow is goated, takes the usual +8% vulnerability and makes it 16% for the whole time they have the debuff
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Great video!
Now I just gotta figure out why the heck my mods are falling so short. But believe you me... I will break into the next number of tens of thousands soon.
Fateful strike is a must have with Shrapnel Souvenir and the weighting mod, you can reach the point where you literally have infinite magazine even on the dummy. Also for that build i'd recommend Beret, more consistent bullet refund procs.
yes for that one beret is great
What do you use instead of Shrapnel Carnage if you're running Fateful?
finally found an honest guide who shows the real damage with multiple mags and not just a one mag dump like all the others out there who just go look at my dps lol. Great video it's basically my build and i'm on the eu servers waiting for pro to open and i have a question you are using canned meat for your food buff but wouldn't the bread be a better buff giving 25% weapon damage ?
ngl I haven't seen the bread. I tested the shrapnel damage from the canned meat and it is a muliplicative bonus. all separate from gas helmet and obliterate. I don't know why. With that being said I'd have to crunch some numbers to see if 25% from bread is better. We don't always trigger shrapnel either. It's hard when there's so many different factors from memetics cradle too lol
A legendary weapon fragment from another weapon (ex: DE.50 - Jaws) would give 30 xp, but if it's from the same weapon it gives double xp for the purpose of lvling up blueprints. An Epic weapon fragment would give 10 xp. So while buying the 2k epic pistols would be better than buying the 8k DE.50 - Jaws ,for lvling up a last valor blueprint the best thing to buy would be more last valor.
You can’t buy the same blueprint for starchrom again. You can buy it for 8k and them gamble the socr package on the machine for more fragments
@@overhansable can you do it the opposite way? do the gamba first then buy the blueprint?
@@overhansable you can gamba for it. ive had 2 already
@@tykobray4132 ? Thats what I wrote, buy for 8k than gamba and level up with the fragments...
THICC! miss ya dude :) hope the new content is doing well sir.
Thank you so much. Your vids helped me a lot. Thanks to your guide i just did easy 63k dps on that puppet
i just dropped 67 k :D wearing that one part bastille + good mod rolls
@@realkiwinetwhat’s your stats? Crit rate, crit dmg, base dmg and weapon bonus dmg while holding the SOCR?
The beret makes the shrapnel souvenir combo never run out of ammo
actually crit is the core factor. but most people have around 30% crit so the beret helps. if you are at 100% crit you dont need beret to sustain ammo
whats your weapon calibration attributes ?
When you buy blueprints from the wish machine it auto unlocks that item. You wont get the blueprints fragments to use to upgrade other blueprints.
If you already own the BP from farming mythicals(or gambling), you CAN purchase it once and it converts it to fragments!
@@neminatithey are all mostly "found in the wish machine" all the legendary and almost all the epic.....
+100% weakspot weight reads exactly as it should.
if the default is a 10% chance for shrapnel to hit a weakspot the mod would make it 20%, aka a 100% increase.
making that 10 up just for easy math but its perfectly clear.
Thanks for the in depth analysis. It looks like the gas mask definitely helps the explosive shrapnel build. I'm using souvenir right now, can top out around 50k on the dummy. It's definitely a sustained DPS build more than a burst build, and you have to get accustomed to aiming at the body (not weakspots) so the 100% weakspot weight mod triggers on the weakspot. Let me say weakspot some more. It's definitely a different way to play. I put up a video of my build on my channel doing hard mode treant with the build with about 40% base crit and 100% crit damage, so I'm missing A LOT of base crit damage, but still managed to melt the boss in 15 seconds.
I can't get past 40k with my version, I'll check it out!
@@thiccfila Are you using a different calibration on your Last Valor? Not sure if I missed it in the vid. I'm running a Rapid Shot Style which gives 20% fire rate but -10% attack. I'm not sure if that is better or the Precision Style which gives -10% fire rate but 20% attack.
I'm also curious what your base stats are with your explosive shrapnel build. You melted Treant in a magazine lol
@@thiccfila I have a fast fire setup with double crit, bastille boots and beret with falcon set, all I have mod wise is shrap souvenir on the gun, shrapnel carnage on mask, fateful strike on helmet as shrapnel is NOT affected as you know, and it double-scalars multiplicatively instead of additively with crit, crit boost on gloves, deadshot on pants, covered advance on shoes, remember that you picked reload and mag size perks on your setup which is completely invalidated by shrapnel souvenir which with a 80 round mag can easily fire 500 rounds before reloading if you don't miss, all of my mods have weapon damage, status damage, damage to great ones, and mag size,
i get 120k on the dummy after bullseye crossbow and can fire for over a minute without reloading, every boss dies minus arachsiam dies insanely fast, beret is absolutely better for both burst and duration dps when you have sharpnel souvenir in the mix, without souvenir your build is better, it's critical to making the infinite ammo scaling damage actually loop.
@@meowxeno Have almost an identical setup to yours, only difference is using lonewolf instead of falcon and I seem to get a similar 120-130k. Always top damage in any group content as well. The Multiplicative DMG stacking goes crazy.
@@meowxenofateful strike doesnt stop shrapnel weakspot damage?
I have 4p Lone, 1p Bast and the Berret, really good mods all fully upgraded everyone has crit dmg and 80% of them dmg to great ones. All blueprints 1* still as you dont want to upgrade anything until you see season 2 recipes so don't do it, like not even once. Anyway, Target dummy sustained DPS of 57k with not a single reload (something is happening that's making something do insane dps I am sure one of the mods is broken) using the unlimited clip set up, bosses well over 100k litrally have max rolled boss dmg on most mods. I am missing maybe 4 BIS secondary single stats on some mods which I have more chance god shows up and say 'ow hi I am actually real' Orange ammo used, Purple ammo netted me 51k on dummy. Deviant was wolf, and tactical was ofc used. Great thing about this game is so many weapon builds work really well, UB is amazing, Frost is awesome, Shock absolutely rips! I feel a lot of the builds are all super fun and super strong.
Awesome guide you re the man!
i havent really tried this game more but from what ive seen with all the different build options it seems neat, shrapnel i feel like is pretty underused in games so its cool you can dedicate whole builds to it
also hi thicc hi hiiii :3
hi sora, if u decide to play let me know so i can invite u and get in game currency lol
It's because shrapnel was so brokenly powerful in beta 2 with div-evo that nothing came even remotely close to it, and it pissed a lot of people off. So now it feels like it's under the other options, but still viable.
what ammo you using?
'triggers' and shrapnel 'hits' are 2 different things. Beret does not increase triggers. It just applies more shrapnel 'hits'. Simply put, normaly a trigger procs 1 shrapnel hit, but beret adds +1 hit. therefore thats 100% damage increase. Gas mask doesnt add an aditional hit, but increases the damage by 120%. so obvious gas mask has a 20% higher damage output over beret.
Pretty sure the shrapnel hit weight thing is not priority for hitting weakspots, but rather how hard the shrapnel hits the weakspot. As seen when testing at 10:17, your weakspot shrapnel hits for 1700 something. Then, when testing the Carnage mod at 15:55, your weakspot shrapnel hits for 2200 something. So there could be a very interesting build with Carnage and weakspot damage :)
That mod also has weakspot dmg bonus if u missed it. So has both priority and weakspot dmg
its weight. the base weight for shrapnel to hit a weakspot is unknown. but a 100% increase on the base weight is obviously not 100% chance.
@@Mio-- again, explain to me how you think “shrapnel hit weight” means weakspot priority? I even looked back at the footage, and he does not get any more shrapnel weakspot hits with the mod on, than without. Only thing that changes is how much damage the weakspot shrapnel does.
what calibration would you go for on last valor `?
attack damage or fire rate + 2x crit. Dont get mag capacity
Precision Style 2x crit
Great vid! I just want to know where to get the actual blueprints for the armor. Thanks!
Also, i think in the wish machine you can buy things only once so you maybe cant buy 4 purple pistol to upgrade the SOCR
gamba for more socr
the digi peak theme music from BL2 isa nice touch such nostalgia
on the bow, the amplifier mod where bullseye applies vuner. you can get a roll for bosses where bullseye will be applied for a longer time.
Great vid. I must ask though, why are you comparing DPS on the Shrapnel Souvenir build? The proc doesn't increase your DPS gain, but rather your sustain. As a result, wouldn't it be better to test your DPM comparison?
What about CAGE HELMET its same or what ?
Shrapnel Trigger Count +1 this is available from the Wish Machine. I believe Thicc needs more starchrom.
Same thing as beret, just higher health and psi intensity. Just a bigger version of the free beret
If you’re high crit, the beret hits 4 shrapnel
Cage helm only hits 3 shrapnel on crit
Gas mask hits 3 on crit
I believe the overall calculations ended with cage helm as weakest, then beret, and finally gas mask as 10% stronger than beret
I think due to mistranslations people aren't testing the CAGE helmet but I believe the cage should do more since the actual translation for SOCR - Last Valor is Shrapnel on every fourth hit not 4% with crits counting as two hits. CAGE adds +1 to Trigger count meaning you have shrapnel on every 2 hits
Im actually using Cage,what it does is, doing 2 sharpnel like beret, but it count 2 times for the explosion mod(from the mask) meaning it procs every 10 times instead of 20. Way better for pvp and maybe even for pve
I run a very similar build with targeted strike instead of explosive shrapnel (with beret). The dummy dps caps out around 70k. A bit more burst but suffers in heavy sustain scenarios (these currently don't exist afaik). With so many bosses having immunity phases, there's always time to reload the xbow to be ready for the next phase.
I actually started using the blue bulls eye shotgun, which doesnt get crit rate but applies bulls eye more consistently and more frequently, im using that mask mod now. i didnt like it with the bow because i dont think i apply it enough
@@thiccfila the sniper has 100% chance to apply it when you change your weapon
What calibration att are you using on the Socr? Precision or Heavy style?
It might be somewhere, but do you have a list of the names of each piece of armor itself and where to get? Like, I can catch a few of the names, I could not tell what set the pants were from. I also can't find where to get that gas mask version, the shop only has the hood version, which is not the same ability. This could be due to the server I am on, as we are only on week 3, but the wish games don't cover the helmet from what I can tell and I have no idea if it is with a vendor or not. Thanks in advance.
Edit: Also, does having a mod on your melee weapon help stats at all?
Why do you opt for the Blue Mods? Are there not Golden versions of them? (like you mentioned with the silo, not to do HM)
there are some mods that dont have other color versions
The higher rarity versions are gear locked to the gloves slot
A few questions. You say all mods tested. That is not true at all from what I have seen of your video. You seem to advise using mods that you have found rather than ones that are better that you just have not found/aquired yet is this true? You say the bonuses on the crossbow mod for bullseye does not matter but this is also not true. My 12% reload speed says otherwise. You are using precision mods that are weakspot rather than violent which are crit specific which is better for shrapnel yes? Many questions which would be nice to be answered, cheers.
I believe the beret is better if using shrapnel souvenir mod. You will get way more ammo
with the beret im getting 29k dps, not bad for a purple, saving up for the gas mask now
the gas mask wont make or break the build. you can get 100-110k with beret
Holycrap, i forgot about the cradle for 3 weeks now.
My preference is the KAM Pioneer over the SOCR imo. Mostly just because my KAM has a maxed out blueprint and I like the 30% shrapnel chance / 60% shrapnel damage buff it has
A lot of people talk about the purple SMG, but that assault rifle caught my eye honestly. When I tried it on the dummy it wasn't even near the DPS of the SOCR. I think SOCR being able to get more shrapnel based on crit rate is insane, since you can manipulate it with good mods. However, I'm willing to go try it more, it looks cool.
@@thiccfila To be clear, he's talking about the AR Pioneer. Same weapon type as the Last Valour, but the blue one. Div-evo is the purple SMG shrapnel weapon.
Yeah what navy said. It's the blue rarity AK. That being said my blueprint is maxed out so the damage difference isn't huge compared to my 2 star SOCR blueprint, plus I get 10 more rounds in the mag
Once you buy outright from the Wish Shop, that item becomes "owned" and you cannot buy another copy. I also believe it unlocks the BP, and not fragments. So no getting frags to level that way.
You get frags if you already own the weapon from wish gambles
@@crimesguy That's not what we're talking about. He said specifically to aim for buying multiple copies of gun from the shop (G on the machine, not F). Which is quite clear by my explanation that you replied to.
Do I need AWS Bingo/Bullseye for enemies with no Clear Weakspot? Like Mother of Life and etcs
is this still applicable on hard mode?
Wait so did they remove the you get extra bullets when crit!?!?!?
whats your valor kalibration ?
What weapon calibration are you using for SOCR? I must have missed it
i bet its heavy, crit, crit
Hey just wanna ask, 3 piece of lone wolf 2 piece of falcon vs 4 piece of lone wolf. Which is better?
i would say beret 4 lone wolf and bastille. doing around 65k dps on dummy and its much higher on bosses
@@lapej1337 so as for right now i only have 4 piece of lone wolf, i was planning to get the bastille later on. So should i use 4 piece lone wolf ?
@@meytheawesomeness2892 yes. berret+4 lone wolf and 1 bastille
@@lapej1337 What about gas mask? Is it better than beret?
@@meytheawesomeness2892 well im using berret ansnhave higher numbers so. i think berret is mutch better
Have you tried Caibration BPs? I'm torn between Rapid Shot and Precision. But when I tried Rapid Shot on the Last Valor, my DPS increased noticeably to 70k whereas it only reached around 60k with Precision. Both Calibrations are 2x Crit Rate. Dunno maybe you have different results.
You didn’t really talk about gear set to be running just mostly mods. So what am I to run? 1 bastille 3 lonewolf 1 beret and what else?
and the second bastille
4 lonewolf
Can you please do a surge build aswell as detailed as shrapnel? I really love surge but no one explains a good build as good as you
@@ravenbane7781 he don’t run 2 bastile cuz one piece gives wep dmg
Have you tried the cage helmet? I doubt it would be better than the gasmask but ya never know lol.
yes we know. Cage helmet is +1 trigger count. TRIGGER. it doesnt proc any extra damage or anything. it just a counter. its trash with current mods. probably expect new stuff in the future
There are boots that make you do +30% something to marked targets.
U cant use this boots with beret
Hey Awesome build!. got a question if you use fateful strike and then recurve crossbow does that negate the effect since you can no longer hit weakspot?
no it works, you can damage weakspot, you just have no weakspot damage bonuses.
hello, do you know whats the diff between obliterate precision vs violent for the gun mod?
Precision has weakpoint dmg, violent is crit dmg
Is the blue ak a good alternative? And should I use Rapid shot style calibration or Precision style?
either. just dont get mag capacity
whats your weapon attachments?
DO NOT buy those pistols to feed to your rifle. When you buy them flat out like that, it does not give you fragments, it gives you the blueprint pre-fused. You can only purchase them flat out like that one time for this very reason.
Which ammo are you using?
I finally got Shrapnel Souvenir to drop and added it to my build. My overall damage for hard mode instances went from around 600k to almost 2 million. Not having to constantly reload is unreal. You just don't realize how much overall dps you lose because of reloading. Yes you will do more burst damage but when you are doing boss fights and you don't have to constantly reload it really makes a difference. Not to mention that if you happen to have to do a dodge roll during a boss fight and you are reloading then it interrupts the reload. In real world playing I think Souvenir wins hands down. My opinion but if you happen to get it to drop try it out, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Oh, and looking at your numbers again if you look at total damage between reloads you are doing very close to double the overall damage per reload with Souvenir. Now unless you are taking down hard mode, or pro mode bosses in less than a minute I think having to reload less often and doing more consistent damage overall is much better, in my humble opinion ;)
I said I liked souvenir. And I am smashing bosses in 30 seconds lol
All these words only to say that you're playing a sub-optimal build. Yes, we all beat bosses under 1 min with a proper build.
what other mods do you use?
where are the location for the mod gloves at?
Hi, how to get the mod gold SHRAPNEL SOUVENIR-VIOLENT for weapon?
just got the last mod I was looking for but I run a similar build but I don't have the gas mask so I'm using beret, I use shrapnel souvnir, fateful strike, shrapnel carnage, crit boost, covered advance and deadshot all violent, all mods maxxed, 4 piece lonewolf with 1 piece bastelle all 6/6 i top out at 66k with wolf proc and crossbow, about 1.7M damage done after wolf ends. Not really sure if the gas mask would actually do more in my setup or not though tbh
What’s your stats looks like? Crit rate, crit dmg, weapon bonus dmg and base dmg?
@@JoshingX 46.8% crit rate 167.2% crit dmg, 54.8% weapon dmg and base dmg is 518
@@NehemiahTheVampire93What do you mean all mods maxed? Leveling up the sub stats on your mods?
@@JoshingX enhancing them all to 5/5 yes
@@NehemiahTheVampire93 Thank you for the details! I have enhanced my mods to 5/5 too. I hit 50% crit rate, 110 crit dmg, and my base dmg is 510 ish. I’m maxing out at 30K DPS. Still only half of your DPS.
I'm commenting this on every shrapnel build youtube because when I search for "once human beret location" I get nothing. Please make a video on how to attain these pieces of armor please. Thank you.
its one of the lower level t-man quests for the silo i think.
@@thiccfila but which one >.
Is this good for PVP?
Why is your melee weapon without a mod? Does that not add to your dmg? Or does it only count when you're holding it?
Only when you're holding it, same with Secondary weapon, the crit rate boost on it doesn't count to Valor sadly.
@@UncrownedAsura So both the mod effect and the stats don't count unless your holding it?
Wow.. This's new to me. I thought it would active even weapon is not in used
@@JoshingX exactly kinda dumb tbh
On the helm test the difference in total dps was almost the same so since the fire helm is harder to get it would be better to use the other one.
I agree. I was really just debunking people who were saying it didn't let you get more than 1 shrap, and that it wasn't better than beret. It is, but just marginally. Probly not worth the stardust, but also that very first clip probly isn't possible with beret. I've killed that wolf with so many setups so many times.
as someone have who have just played the game for what it's and not farmed or such, aiming for next reset to get bp for the scar. and the crossbow mod and the rest of the mods can it drop from normal? just takes longer time? until i get better gear.
Id honestly say ,dont bother ,all other meta builds are stronger then Shrapnel at this moment. Maybe it changes next season but for now its the weakest.
without fateful strike can we now deal weakspot dmg? because you changed to momentum?
You don't need to prioritize any weakpoint damage bonuses, that was the point on the first video, even still
Have you not tested the mask mod that gives crit and crit damage against marked targets?
I don't like that one with bow because a lot of bosses or enemies have hteir weakspots hidden for a time. Like against the dog kill in the beginning I'm not even marking him until his first weakpoint, and I don't even do it again.
However I just found a blue shotgun which just marks enemies on a % and I'm trying that mod now, it's a great option with that shotgun IMO.
@@thiccfila theres a purple pistol that doesnt need weakspots and also a gold sniper. Marking without weakspots insnt a problem with the right setup. Its jus a matter of if it does more damage to use that mask mod and as far as I understand it does, but could be wrong.
@@Novaricsis the pistol a better "get" than the aws? Tomorrow Ill have starchoms and Im not sure what to choose.
"get a couple friends" to help farm him....feels bad man
Fr, i was farming those pro silo solo, and it was pain lol. But once your build is done, its not big deal 👏
Is caged helmet any good? Don’t understand how it works
it increases triggers. so it works with explosive shrapnel making it only need 10 triggers to proc instead of 20. with the current mods its the worst choice
How do you get enough chrom to be able to buy both legendary armor sets AND the weapon? O.o
Theres aprox 50k of starcrom to get as a solo player not including Prime wars or joining a warband and win a season
Did you forgot about the "Calibration Attributes" of the weapon?
What's the other armor pieces aside from gas mask shoes and mask?
4 piece lone wolf set
@@thiccfila thank you
What calibration were you using? I’m surprised you left that out it’s super important.
Where do we farm obliterate??
Wolf
You can't buy multiple of the same blueprint from the "blueprint shop" part of the wish machine. Once you buy it, it says "purchased" and that's that.
gamba
@@tykobray4132 yes obviously but that's not what was shown in the video. I was correcting bad information. the video said you could just buy multiples from the blueprint shop and the 1st time will give you the BP and the other times will give you fragments for it and that's just categorically wrong.
what about calibration on socr?
Hello mate what does vulnerability in the recurve bow mods represents?
how much extra damage the boss takes.
Im so sorry that i triggered you, but overall it was worth another video. Btw After saw your video im still sure that cage helmet was better, because it trigger your mod mask every 10 sharnpel instead of 20 , and still it for 3 sharpnel like beret. But i think there are many translation problem in the game, for example i dont expect the mask to cap all sharpenl trigger except the criticals one.
lol I was messing around, thanks for being here :). Tons of people were commenting this and I assume it's from someone who made videos from the beta.
I haven't tried the cage helmet at all man. So much starchrom required
What are the best calibration attributes for a weapon?
I have messed with +mag, +fire rate, and my current one is +attack, with crit dmg and crit rate. That one has been the strongest for me so far.
There's a mask mod called Targeted strike that adds 10% crit rate and 25% crit dmg to marked enemies. Have you done any testing to see if explosive shrapnel is better?
depends if you want general gameplay or boss bursting. You can reach 110k dps with shrapnel using Targeted strike. (on the dummy, its more against bosses)
Sup! What calibration attribute on weapon? I got the one with 60% mag -30% reload speed, Crit rate +5.5% and +7.2%. With All mods equipped i got 62 rounds now.
dont get mag capacity. you want dps! but the 2x crit is BiS
also, what calibration is best for weapon? is rapid better than precise?
they dont seem to change it much in my testing. if youre hitting 50-60 kdps just leave it
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Hi, can you please also suggest the accessories for the rifle?
The magazine attachment you want to find the one that puts more ammo in it. Otherwise I just max out stability. I'm not sure if stability is particularly the best stat to go for but it works for me.
@@thiccfila Range increases the minimum damage multiplier. Higher Range = More Damage stays Closer to the Max Damage you can do. Huge difference between 50 Range and 90 Range. Try it.
wich weapon calibration do u use on both weapons? u never showed that.
Weapon swap speed on crossbow, either precision or fire rate (fire rate is better imo) with double crit rate or crit rate+crit dmg on scar
does the golden aws work with this built for secondary weapon? or only crossbow?
You'd lose a lot of crit. It's 30% from the recurve bow. Without it you'd have to give up Explosive Shrapnel to get 10% crit hitting marked enemies on your mask. And probably take the 15% crit glove mode rather than 10% crit with crit DMG. And also the no weakspot damage for 10% crit. In this way, you'd only be missing 5% of the crit he's using in this build. The question is how much the crit dmg would be closing the gap?
The weakspot boost would be wasted on Bingo with the helm taking away weakspot damage. But you'd get a gauranteed bullseye on weapon swap. And sniper would be more use than just bossing. There is also the question of "good" enough. If you can kill a boss in 18 seconds rather than 14 seconds. That could be "good enough" for you.
@@navystylz well explained brother tqsm!!
Which armor besides the fire helmet are you wearing? You talk about the mods, but not the gear.
4 piece lonewolf, 1 piece bastille, beret or gas mask (gas mask is like 8% better overall, but if its not worth 8k starchrom to you just use beret)
What was the weapon calibration stats like precision?
+ attack - fire rate
+ crit dmg
+ crit rate
I don't know if other people posted this but you can't buy the weapons multiple times.. only once and it unlocks the blueprint, it doesn't actually give you the fragments .. sadly
It's good to deversify weapons dmg but crit dmg and weakspot dmg dont multiply they add to the other, only weapon dmg multiply with the other two so deversify dmg is good with weapon dmg and other sources of dmg that scale with it.
yes I explained that in my last video. What I was trying to say in this one when it came to fateful strike vs momentum up, is that you don't always control what bonus you have on the bottom. Some of your mods may likely have some weakspot here or there, so using momentum up at least allows you to not miss out on damage thats already there. also I believe it is stronger anyway, although need to do further testing.
also it provides gun damage, and we have tons of crit anyway.
L-FilA, I am here to appease the algorithm gods
L-ove you
how u got for crit amplifier 12 mag capacity because me in game i don t have these info
farm more crit ampflifer until u get mag capacity and upgrade the mod and hope u get 2x mag capacity
@@manuellager2730 how i can upgrade the mod
@@manuellager2730 Where can i farm crit amplifier?
@@Tasherith silo sigma on Hard or pro
Beret and mask are both good, the beret is good with souvenir for infinite mag, the mask is good for explosion proc. I crafted both and switch between them just for fun 😁 the only difference with you is the dead shot mod, I killed countless time the fridge boss, but I got only purple dead shot no gold… am I unlucky or im farming the wrong boss?
Unlucky, I had a purple one for a while too :). I think I'm posting shrapnel souvenir next. It's very very fun, I just wanted the clickbait high damage video. Maybe I can make souvenir do more :)
@@thiccfila this build is already op, people always complain for nothing without testing, leave them talk bro, amazing explanation and amazing choise between two style of gameplay. As you said, 1st is good for enemy with lot of weakspot to refill mag, 2nd is good for enemy with less weakspot and have a constant dps without relaying on rng mag fill proc. Waiting for new scenario, meanwhile going for dead shot gold still 😂
What is this build doing today?
I have all the good mods, but cant get those mods to drop with weapon dmg and crit dmg. So my damage tops out at about 21k on the mannequin. Only 2 star on the SOCR blueprint as well.
u can get 60k on a 1 star socr easy.
What Calibration should we be going for on the gun?
I have messed with +mag, +fire rate, and my current one is +attack, with crit dmg and crit rate. That one has been the strongest for me so far.
@@thiccfila thanks
Would Fateful strike be better in PVP over momentum up?
I think they are very similar in terms of damage. I don't see a reason why one is better than the other regardless of damage reasons? I felt momentum up was slightly better, but I had a fateful strike from my first build since I found it first, and it performed just fine.
@@thiccfila I won't put effort into finding a Fateful strike over my momentum then. Really appreciate the content you're putting out! Makes it very easy even for new players to somewhat understand how the build works.
thank you, i try to explain things in depth, but also fast, and i answer more quesitons in the comments
How do you get more of the yellow SOCR to drop to upgrade the blueprint?
Wish machine
the wish Mashine BUT one Thing which is crucial. We are thinking that another SOCR BP will upgrade its Weapon to tier 2 right ? It is wrong, i tested it, pulled another BP from it and it like 5-10% Missing to make it happen. So BP is like 150, your Weapon is 160 ... such a big Fail - keep in Mind, one BP isnt enough .... ;-) and if this means the same for other Weapons Upgrades too, then u will waste alot of SC by trying ..
@gatopan2558 oh so the weapon itself can drop in there right not just the blueprint? I think I forgot about that!
@extbr3akz so it will take multiple seasons to get it upgraded? Lol. What a weird design decision. I wonder if some of the other weapons will be better then since you can get them to drop. That's a huge damage loss for the SOCR.
I mention at the end of hte video not to buy another SOCR. I believe you just need beyonder blue prints, there are two purple pistols in the machine which only cost 2000. When the next phase starts I will try this, if you want to wait before risking starchrom. It starts in less than 2 days
where to get the beret?
Silos npc
When will you do a build with beret?
To get better lone wolfs is just a question of farming the boss?
yes no need for controllers
@@thiccfila Awesome thanks
Do you know if Power Surge is competitive with shrapnel or nah?
Yeah look up phase shifter he has a solid power surge build
all the builds top out at about 100-110k dps. how every some are better at bossing (shrapnel) and others are better at pvp (power surge)
@@tykobray4132 Man, I must be doing something wrong, never broke 30k with my power surge build.
@@VahnBlack check out doomeris page see if he got some power surge stuff. if he does it will be good