As someone who is in the middle of a 2013 Chevy Express 3500 Minibus conversion, I whole heartly agree and appreciate the deeper dive on this reliable platform. Great videos as always. See you on the road in the future!
I would have to agree. I have a 2000 Silverado 4x4 with 238k miles. Bought from the original owner at about 100k it burns no oil between changes, has never broken down on the road and with the 4.8 if I keep it at 60mph I can get around 20 mpg. I haven't experienced the paint issue, most people think I have had it repainted but lucky for me, it was pampered from day one and still in great condition. Hang on to yours, it's true, "they don't make 'em like that anymore!"
I’d love 20mpg…or even 17mpg. We’re a little heavy for that though. I think the paint issue is only on the vans. You’re absolutely right, they don’t make’’em like they used to!” 🤣 Thanks for watching!
@@SlowRoamers well, considering that a a relatively small 1.9t Jeep ZJ with a V8 does that sort or milage(when I'm really really careful with the throttle 😅 steady 60 on a flat motorway is around 15, 13.5 at 75) 15-12 for a big chunk of a full sized van loaded with all the camper van stuff - doesn't sound that bad at all. I imagined it would be more like 10-8 with such a large and heavy vehicle Do you have an idea how much does the van weigh in its roadtrip mode?
@@Trajkociklista yeah, it’s certainly not horrible. I’m pretty light on the throttle, but as soon as we get off highway the mileage plummets pretty quick. Road trips mode, which means always, is 8700lbs right now.
Agreed. I used to be an auto tech in a body shop for over 20 years. I have always loved these vans and my buddy growing up had an 80s express with all the goods. Great choise and a ton of aftermarket support for all the components. Great build dude!
A good set of tire chains when your vehicle is challenging traction conditions would greatly make up for the lack of 4x4 capability. Think Trygg chains.
We already had 3 children of our own, and agreed to foster two teenaged girls in wheelchairs. We bought a gas-powered 15-passenger Express Van 3500 for the conversion. It was rock-solid reliable, with a decent ride and handling, and less thirsty than we anticipated.
I have a 2023 AWD Ford Transit with all the bells and whistles so i really have nothing to add to the Chevy Express conversation. But what I can say is Alex, you're totally nailing it with these YT videos. Your talent and hard work is shining through. Keep up the great work! From a fellow BC'er:)
@@robinw2560 i just paid 4k for a AWD express 5.3L with 120k miles the things a dream similar top to this. also can swap in a 4x4 transfer case from a silverado. I want this dudes van tho it's a beast
We had a ‘98 gmc Savana 1500 conversion (so the clone of the Chevy express) and drive it up to 700,000km. Pulling a trailer. In the end it was the conversion electrical system that made us sell it. Too buggy. But the platform was great.
I love my GMC Savana 2500 Quigly 4X4 with the 6.0 ltr and the 6L90 trans. Its a beautiful Beast. I also have a 3500 box van i converted into a tiny house on wheels that i currently live in, almost 10 years now, its got the 4.8 ltr with the 6L 90 trans, its a big white turtle. super reliable.
Thanks for the great review. I am a new subscriber and am looking forward to following your latest journey. I have a 2010 GMC Savana self converted with a high top, same engine and overall spec. so it's great to hear all the positive feedback about it's suitability for adventure. Great stuff!
Awesome! Thanks for following along, Richard. Glad you liked the video. It’s always nice when you’re affirmed on a decision you’ve already made, ain’t it?🤣 Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
I think you're right: Chevy Express IS a great platform. In the end though, it comes down to what you call the "use case", i.e. what the drivers and build designers have done to optimize the vehicle. The things you've done with the van from a DIY perspective, where you've gone, the roads you've chosen have been the game changer. You've made great choices as owners, vanlifers and overlanders. You've truly mastered the platform potential. Excited for your PanAm adventures.
We started with a 2007 GMC Savana 2500 without cruise control for our first 7 years on the road. But I noticed that it didn't have a mechanical throttle. So I just bought a cruise control lever and replace the one on the column and voila, I had cruise control. I don't know of any recall for the paint issue but we lovingly named our van "Chippy".
@@SlowRoamers I read up on this as well Sounds like if it’s a drive by wire adding cruise is very simple. Swap out the blinker stock for the one with cruise. Plug it in. If it is the throttle cable style (earlier models like mine 😕) there is more work involved. It can be done but you need the cc module (they are not available new anymore). You gotta hunt down a used one. You also need the cruise control blinker stock. The cable for the cruise to control the throttle body. I can’t remember, but I thing might have to program the ECU as well.
@@malimish The paint has a 5 year warranty and paint failures start around year 6, so you're screwed. The paint jobs that are not white in color last forever, so keep that in consideration. Get a V8, any V8, with a yellow gas cap, so it's flex fuel compatible.
@@stevenmelander5218 Thanks but we've not owned that van for nearly 10 years. Have moved on to other vehicles and probably won't be looking at the Express or Savana any time soon.
I have a 2022 Chevy equinox and it has all the bells and whistles. But I’m so ready to be done with all the electronics (now breaking down) and get back to an old school vehicle! I’m a Chevy girl!
I’m not a mechanic but we’ve found ways to get mechanical work done in Panama and Colombia where our van is not sold. We rarely drive over 70 kph on pavement and often 30kph on winding back roads. I don’t envy your lack of air conditioning in the cab and I’ll look forward to watching you sweat in Central America. It was 100 degrees yesterday in Cali and the suicide motorcycles were relentless as usual. Cheers from Colombia and our 2020 Promaster getting the drive done.
Ooo! I see you got Meg’s outside table done! I’ve had camper-vans for the past 20 years, never had 4WD, and have had tons of fun and adventures (albeit not as adventuresome as yours) without ever missing or wishing for it. 4WD is not necessary to explore, I totally agree. The equipment isn’t the point, it’s the time spent with the people you love and you’ve got that figured out at an early stage. Good for you! I love the bloopers, which prove you often have to look like a maniac to “get the shot”! Thanks for the video and looking forward to all the places your van will take you!
Indeed, I think identifying the priorities that matter is a good practice. I’ve missed out on a lot of adventure and travel time by spending lots of time building “the perfect rig” just to find out that what I was building wasn’t quite right. Thanks for watching Tiki Envy’s, we’ll be back on the road soon and showing you what BC really looks like. 😊
Thanks for the info Alex! As you know, I have the same model that you do, and YES that paint is horrible. But I appreciate the info on rear axle etc... I'm retired now, and working part time, but definitely thinking about the van and next steps. Currently it is being used as a mobile bike shop, although that will hopefully change over the next couple of years. THANKS again!!
Just bought a GMC Savanna cargo van in March. (Chevy express with a different label on it. 🤗) Have been outfitting it as a weekend camper van while still using it to drive to work 5 days a week. I agree with what you said about this van being a great platform. Everything you said has made me feel good about my choice and the options I might have for future upgrades to lights and roof height, etc. I like having clearance underneath, and the ability to fit in a normal size parking space. Very practical, and very simple. But mine does have electric windows and a working AC (which is nice) and cruise control (which I really appreciate on long trips.) No navigation or blind spot monitor or parking assist or other fancy doodads though. No hands free phone either, just a very simple radio. I was looking for a truck like you could buy 20 years ago before trucks became expensive luxury status symbols. (Why do trucks have back seats and short beds? How are you going to haul lumber or do anything practical in them?) But I also wanted an enclosed cargo space and that is why I was looking at the Express/Savanna vans.
Nice! Great choice! I’ve been continuously pleasantly surprised by the van. I’m quite sure it will continue to serve you well as long as you keep up with basic maintenance. Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
@@SlowRoamers Once spent two days on a 2 minute clip of a podcast remastering an Apollo countdown to be clear. Was my least listened episode. Still proud as hell and the one person that said they liked it made all the difference.
Thank 4 the information. It really helps. I am searching for a van I have seen other Van lifers say theChevy Express is one of the best. Especially easy to work on & to find parts. Enjoy & be safe on the road!! Hope to see y’all on the road!!!😊
I own a van just like this and I can tell you from experience. Change over to cross drilled and slotted rotors, and nothing but Napa ceramic pads. Will stop anything.
I got my 2017 Express 3500 three years ago. The kicker is that the used car dealer didn't know that it had an Advanced 4 wheel drive conversion on it, so I got it for the price of a 2 wheel drive which was 17k at the time. It has the 6L in it so the gas mileage sucks but its been a great vehicle.
@SlowRoamers I just discovered your channel while researching Chevy vans. Thank you for making this fantastic video and I am now your new subscriber. What model year is your van? I am currently shopping for a used Chevy which I plan to set up for occasional camping trips. A question for you and other experienced readers who are willing to share the experience and knowledge. What would be the best model year(s), what engine size and what tranny would you look for if you were in the market for a used Chevy? My budget for just buying a van is under $10 k. Thanks in advance and best wishes from Maryland!!!
Hey, glad you found us and that our video could be of help. Thanks for following along! We have a 2006 2500 1ton package. It’s got the 4.8 with 4L80e 4spd auto. We’re partial to this particular year/engine/weight combination, although I think we’d like the bigger engine. I’m not certain if the express vans come with a 5.3 but if they did, that’s what I’d prefer.
@@SlowRoamers Thank you very much and glad to hear 4.8 is doing ok for you!!! A contractor on hvac-talk forum said this:" My 07 2500 has the 4.8 and even loaded with tools and a ladder on the roof, I haven't noticed any lack of performance." And on Chevrolet forum comments on 4.8 vs bigger in express vans one poster had the same preference you have. He said: " I would go with the 5.3. Its a 327 and newer more efficient engine. Plus it gives you more towing, cargo weight and chassis options." Wishing you and your lovely girlfriend joyful and safe journeys
@@slobodantrendic22 yessir! The 4.8 is great and super reliable albeit a little underpowered for our heavy van, but it gets us around which all we need!
Thank you for the video! Big Chevy fan! I talked with those people in Washington about a 24-inch high roof on an express 3500 ext, and they said it wouldn't be a problem. I love Chevy for the same reasons. LS and more. Very insightful video. I didn't know that much about the rear axle but this made it make perfect sense. GM was probably maximizing profit margins by adding some bs semi floater to the express. It's extremely good to know that another axle even from a Silverado 35 would just slip right in. I was thinking of doing that but for stability purposes for a high top but one of the reasons I think these vans are the ultimate now is because they actually have the same electronic stability control sprinters do now for their tip over control so they can roll all the way over just by swerving. I didn't know about the breaking issue but that could actually explain what's going on with my dad's sierra 2500 6.6 Duramax from 06'. I wish GM would just make a new van for crying out loud. They need to keep it the same mechanically but just bolden the aesthetic the same way they do with all their other consumer model vehicles, but make it more boxed out up at the top like the transit vans. Not to copy a transit or become a Chevy sprinter. Those other vans have that girly feminine looking front end that's just not ok for a man to drive, and it's transcendent to it's drive components because their 25 and 3500s vans even with duallys' in the back still don't out tow/haul express vans. At the same time the attention transits/sprinters get makes it seem like they have more aftermarket part availability. I've watched you guys a little, and I don't actually like your build but I respect your depth of knowledge from crafting your rig basically from the ground up. I'm also convinced that express vans are the ultimate budget build platform as well, and I want to show up everybody else rig on RUclips with my own including the highest end sprinters. Looking on Facebook market for a van, I realized they had that flaking issue.. Yeah they're not perfect vans but I still think they're the best for people like me with little bits of money. I want a $15-25k ish build including the van.
Well that was quite the read. I agree that it would be nice to have some vertical walls, it would increase space and make it so much easier to build inside. I don’t see what people see in the promasters and transits, but they do come from the factory as high tops which is a huge plus for livability when built out. Also, I think non-car people put a lot of trust in modern technology, not realizing that modern vehicles are quickly slipping past the level of reliability that vehicles once had in exchange for convenience and comfort and being over engineered. Anyway, thanks for watching and commenting. Best of luck with the build.
The best thing about the ford and chevy vans is that you get a real engine and a real suspension not the euro trash they put on transits and sprinters. We won't even mention the ram van(front wheel drive pffffft)
lol, I’m inclined to agree. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the dual I beam suspension on the Econoline. I like the express suspension because there’s fewer camber issues for tire wear.
@@stahpit1971 I’ll make a case for the Transit van, only because I owned one, and drove it into places a 2wd van shouldn’t go. I also drove to Tuktoyaktuk with it. It’s surprisingly comfortable and seemed to articulate well enough for my purposes. McPherson strut set ups are simple enough, and there’s lots of options for suspension for the transits now. It was a good van! Easy to maintain, easy to repair. I had zero issues in the 4 years I owned it.
Not entirely sure, but recently I watched a video saying to not buy anything Stellantis unless it has a Cummins in it. Everything is an opinion, but some opinions of factually backed. I’m general I don’t trust anything past early 2000’s as shortly after the ability to work on your own vehicle without advanced/expensive tools started to disappear…
Great information! Thanks! Have you ever compared the INTERIOR length, width and height of your Chevy to a short and tall Sprinter, Transit or Promaster? Did you find that the interior space of your chevy was similar or a lot smaller?
All those vans have slightly larger interior spaces, their boxier designs lend to that. I never tried to compare them because I was never interested in any of them.
And for Chevy rear ends if you ever wanted to stay Chevy I run the 14 bolt out of the obs 2500s and it works great and very serviceable if you ever have to
Many years ago millions of drivers made the transition from cars to pick-up trucks because they retained many of the basic, simple design features and repair features of the cars of the 80's and before. Then they evolved the pick-up truck into luxury vehicles with masses of high tech electronics, leather seats, sun roofs and all the bells and whistles. The evolution created more to go wrong and less that could be repaired by the vehicle owner. Luckily, the full size contractor vans have not undergone the same evolution and upgrades as pick-up trucks and have remain simple, hardy workhorses that just get the job done.
Hear hear! Planned obsolescence. The way they’re making vehicles nowadays, they’re just being built to break down and be returned to the dealership. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to have some of the comforts, but seems like mechanics have to be rocket scientists to work on vehicles now and the manufacturers are not back down on this policy.🫤
No ac? What the heck, like never installed from factory or it's dead? That's really cool that you can add the high tops aftermarket. I'm thinking about getting a 12 passenger with the 6.0 when I eventually replace my Toyota Sienna. I really like the idea of having the ability to tow, haul, and parts are dirt cheap and widely available. The only downside I can see with these is they're gas hogs. I have a couple Ford vehicles and I hate working on them, total pain and parts quality for OEM isn't there.
Came without AC. It’s a Canadian vehicle, AC isn’t necessary for survival up here.🤣 The 6.0 can consume a lot of fuel for sure, the 4.8 can be pretty decent. We can see 15mpg consistently on the highway, probably a lot more if we ditched a bunch of weight. I’ve only heard about having to work on Ford’s, but what I’ve heard shares your sentiments. I’d say AC Delco stuff which is effectively factory replacement is pretty dang good quality.
@SlowRoamers ahh, that makes sense. Down here in the southeast people get rid of cars left and right if the AC goes out. 15 mpg isn't terrible considering the weight you're hauling. Really if the 6.0 gets like 16 or 17 lightly loaded I'll be happy. My old 01 Sienna only gets like a max of 19 or 20 on the highway, typically only 18. Yeah I call Ford's OEM Motorcraft Motorcrap. If I can find a Denso or other good quality aftermarket I go that route.
I was looking for a used one of those for years but for some reason the used market was really beat up more than the Ford ones. Ended up with the Ford version of your van. 4.6 e250 shorty. I think the "overlanding" equipment aftermarket is a bit larger on the Ford side but it's got its own problems like spark plugs popping out. Haha. Have you gotten your 4.8 tuned? Looking at getting mine done to help with some of those hills.
They’ve all got their issues in some form or the other, but yeah, there’s a little more aftermarket support for Ford for whatever reason. I haven’t done a tune. I’d be a little skeptical of it, I do find that although the factory tune may not be as fuel efficient or powerful, it’s safe, and that’s mainly what we need out of a motor for our trip.
I agree. I have a 1991 Dodge Xplorer. 360 ci engine. Excellent rig, repair parts anywhere (if you need one). Basic, within my ability to get back to civilization.
@@SlowRoamers i like the drive by wire, it's smoother and saves on gas a little. because the computer can feather out throttle input. But the drive by cable is a better design more simple which is always better and better throttle response almost to much I can even drive it barefoot and feel every twitch of the pedal lol. I'm glad mine came with cruise control tho I think it uses vacuum to control a second cable pretty cool. Deft not a simple swap like the drive by wire cruise
@@SlowRoamers can you check your van to see if the throttle has 2 cables that would be awesome if they came equipped I swear videos online say you just need to swap the turn stalk
Love the video, man. Full sized cargo/passenger vans, especially retired ambulances, are fantastic platforms. I like the Express Vans over the Econolines, especially the LWB. If you don’t mind me asking, how come you got the 4.8, instead of the 5.3 or the 6.0?
I personally didn’t make the decision, Meg my partner purchased the van prior to us meeting. I likely would have got a bigger engine had I know what I know now and was present during the purchase.
Nice review. Great on details and reasoning for the choice. We made different choices for different reasons, but I can see how your choices are working out well for you! Perhaps we'll meet up on the road someplace.
If you plan to do long days (600 miles +) cruise control is a must unless you like leg cramps. Same with A/C. In 100 degree heat you'll be worn out long before you ever make 600 miles.
Luckily for us that’s basically never the case. I’ve driven basic, shitbox vehicles my entire life, I’m good with a lack of comfort. Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
The positive thing about the Chevrolet and GMC models is nothing has been appreciably changed since 1996 so parts are available - cannot say the same for Ford who often changes parts twice in a year so parts can be iffy especially if you break down in a small town.
@@reidcrosby6241We are comparing apples and oranges - A new Chevy has most parts interchangeable clear back almost 30 years but a brand new Ford Transit does not
I second the notion that 99% of the time I don’t need 4WD. My present Tundra is the first 4x4 I’ve owned in 54 years of driving. I’ve lived in Alaska, N. California, Washington, Montana, and driven most of the northern states winter and summer. The Tundra is a 2019 and the only time it goes into 4 wheel drive is to test it once a year😊. Now if I were rock climbing with a van then you bet it would have four wheel drive but would still be a Chevy, Ford, or Nissan conversion. Just for giggles the only time I ever got stuck off road was in my dad’s then new 1973 Landcruiser. That’s when I decided to never own a vehicle that didn’t have a locking rear end. Had to walk 10 miles to town to get a friend to tow me.
Thanks for commenting Brian. I’m glad there’s a few people that share my thoughts on 4WD. Undoubtedly it would be nice to have, but different tools are required for different jobs and we’re not on a 4WD job.🤣 Everyone will get stuck, 4WD will get you stuck further out.🤣 I hope your 10mile walk was rewarded with a cold beer at the end. Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
I have a 1999 Express 2500 that I bought for $700 in 2018. It has the 5.0 which, I read online, is a 350 with smaller pistons? I'm told that makes the engine more durable. Anyway, I enjoy the ride quality the longer wheel base provides and the way the transmission shifts for effortless extra power without having to stomp on the accererator like other vehicles. I've put some money into it but I actually prefer it over my 1997 Dodge B2500. It's longer, wider, has a longer wheel base, much stronger suspension and the AC works! I still have the Dodge because it's a high top and it has the 360 which is a beast of an engine that has never left me stranded. I really appreciate your humor! Saw you guys on Foresty Forest but didn't get a chance to subscribe. Excuse me now while I go take care of that!
I’m watching from my 21 Chevy express 2500. I have the 6.6l I need the short wheelbase. I think it was a U-Haul rig. Other the the low top, I’m loving mine!
I'm not a fan boy of any specific brand and I think there are always pros and cons to all of them. I went with the Econoline purely because there are just so many of them and they are easy, cheap, and did I mention just so many of them! They did make more of them and for a longer time period if I recall correctly compared to Chevy, but honestly I wanted a solid front axle and not CV axles on the few Chevy's I did find for sale. There were so many $$$$$ Sprinters and Transits, but just a few more Econoline's 4x4 for sale when I was looking. I think from 1993 to now the Fords are all very similar with the main changes being about the different engine options, or the smaller parts on E150s (nobody should convert those IMHO). You can bolt a 2010+ front clip on a 1993 if you wanted it to look newer. Also the 5x7 headlights is an option as well, oh and I got my high-top for $150 at a junkyard and did it myself! I did however buy a 4x4 converted van and agree 100% with you about 2WD is all that's needed most the time. I came from a 2WD Class C RV towing a Jeep TJ and took that RV across creeks and to places most wouldn't. Not once did I get stuck, the 2WD with better tires and lower air pressure goes a LONG ways. I've been in the 4x4 E350 for almost 3 months now with ~5000 miles with close to 1k being off road. This comment comes from BLM and Starlink actually LOL. So far I've had to use 4x4 four or five times and most of them were on OHV trails. I've only used 4x4 once on a Forest road and that was earlier in the season with a pretty bad washout area, actually got the front tire off the ground then. Hope to catch ya out camping sometime, cheers and safe travels! -Tom
Thanks for the comment, Tom! I do agree, the solid front axle option that ford comes with is primo. The next truck I build will have a ford front end in it.🤣 Keep an eye out for us, we’re around. 🙌🏻
@SlowRoamers Nice! I'd like to build something sorta like the "AVEON RV", but smaller, on an older chassis and with a 12v Cummins 🤣 Gonna keep dreaming about it 🍻
@@joulemine Cummins swap EVERYTHING! I have dreamt of putting a 12valve in a truck one day, but have recently been turned off them due to their weight. They're such a heavy vehicle engine that they really begin to wear on steering parts. Not particularly ideal for super remote/ long term travel...although, I could be totally wrong.
@SlowRoamers Powerstrokes (6.7 & 7.3) along with the 5.9 Cummins are all right at 1000 lbs for the engine. Gas V8s are about half that typically. Tons of F250s and F550s with plenty of miles on them. The Dodge axles were known for wearing balljoints. I like the 12 Valve purely for the mechanical fuel pump and ease to get it working. It's like 4 or 5 wires 😆. Its also known for good MPGs. Honestly, driveshafts become an issue on longer wheel bases with heavy rigs anyway. So it's not like it'd be possible to do the same wheeling a properly set up Yota, Jeep, etc would do. Pros and Cons to everything for sure. I've seen a few TDI swapped TJs and JKs, even a 4BT Cummins, but they have to be tuned up and higher RPMs for power. Not sure they'd go well with a heavy camper 🤷♂️
I have a express 3500 small box truck with the single rear wheels. The box is the same width of the van body. I’m converting it into a overland-ish camper. I to have traveled extensively into wild back country with 2wd trucks. A small lift, good tires, a locker, and a touch of skill will get you pretty damn far.
@@SlowRoamers What locker or limited slip did you put in your rear end ? Is it the Dana super 70 ? That’s what my van has. Can’t find much of anything for them. There’s the rare factory g80 locker. But that’s like finding hens teeth. My research shows me the super 70 is different than the HD Dana 70 (which there are lots of parts for).
@@SlowRoamers I was interested in the Mercedes Metris. A lil concerned about it not being AWD. But I know it’s mechanics is $$$$. Your rig looks like the Goldilocks between Metris $ my Dodge Caravan Minivan
The van is reasonably wide and the top is certainly one of the more aerodynamic of the available tops, plus it’s only a medium top. We’ve never had crazy violent sidewinds like what they get in the Midwest, but I don’t think it would be much of an issue.
I have a medium hightop ford wheel chair van. Drove cross country twice Driven thru Wyoming during "high profile vehicle wind warnings" with absolutely no issues.
Thanks for the video, you got me interested in the rear axle and engine swap. Just bought a used 2014 chevy express 3500 15 passenger van 4.8l which apparently comes with a free floating rear differential and for sure comes with a gutless motor. LSD was an optional upgrade when bought brand new, havent looked to see if it has it yet. Im assuming that means adding lsd to the current axle might be an option? I have a 6.7 cummins and still take it easy uphill anyways :)
The LSD is a big upgrade, I’m not sure about finding it though, upgrading the Dana 70’s apparently a challenge. For a 3500 the 4.8 is certainly a little small, but I think it’ll get you around fine.
@@SlowRoamers yea, it does fine on highway 108/ sonora pass in california, which is one of the steepest I know of. Unfortunately you might have to wind the motor out a little bit more than a bigger bore or turbo diesel.
Since the Nissan NVs are no more, and no one wants to sell theirs.. I’m definitely looking for a Chevy Express, Passenger regular WL. Preferably with Driver Convenience Package and Leather seats if possible. I’m also highly considering if I cannot find one specced how I’d like it, to get one built / ordered… these things do it all including towing! House style outlets in them ect. Plus I see them as equity in a way because of how well they hold value when taken care of. You can definitely get more money back than most things on the road. Looked at a few used ones already. They’re hit or miss on how used they were even under 50k miles. Most are also white, not the black or grey..
@Vandantcyclone I have a 2017 NV 200. I absolutely love it. I've been part-time vanlife traveling throughout northeastern US & Canada for the past 5 yrs. It's really inexpensive to run vs the larger vans.
Awesome van! I’m torn between a van and a pick up truck for my family. I like that the truck has 4x4 already and has more comfortable and modern features, but I like that the van has way more interior space. I don’t understand why these vans don’t have a 4x4 option from the factory. I know yours is 2WD and is very capable, but it just seems silly to me since they are very similar to a pick up truck. I’ve got 5 in my family so I don’t think all of us will be able to sleep inside comfortably so I would probably just set it up as a gear hauler with a removable platform bed in back that we can use in a pinch.
I agree, seeing as it’s pretty close to a truck chassis, 4x4 is fitting, however I think we have to look at it from a use-case and manufacturer point of view. The van was built as a contractor/ delivery van, based in cities. I don’t think Chevy would likely have profited from a 4x4 van like they would from a more affordable 2wd van. That being said, there is an AWD 1500 model. Our choices to keep the van 2WD aren’t for everyone. I would have likely searched for a 4wd option if I had been purchasing with Meg, but I’m happy with how the van has performed otherwise. Thanks for watching!
@@SlowRoamers most pickups are used in cities as contractor vehicles as well in 2WD and 4x4. The vast majority of pick ups I see are 4x4 in northern USA with ice and snow. If just seems odd to me that it was never an option
My favorite is the 2017 Dodge Caravan, basic model which unfortunately means no built in kids entertainment DVD screens. But it does have 2 electric front windows!!!!!!!!
I would definitely go with one of the big 3 for simplicity and how easy they are to work on. Id personally lean towards Ford for the obnoxtious numbers of them on the road and aftermarket support. Plus the Econolines share many chassis parts with the Super Duty. Really can't go wrong with either..cool vid
Yep, to each their own. I really love the proportions of the Econoline vans, even more so than the Express’, but I’ve always had a liking for Chevy. Thanks for watching!
Unfortunately I can’t speak to any issues with brakes on a Pontiac as I have no experience with them. If they’re a similar design then it might an issue. It’s from vertical travel of the brake pad in its mounting perch/groove.
Depending on the year, you might be able to get away with installing an OE switch. If it's an older drive-by-wire, then most of the wiring and modules are already there.
It would be best to put an email into High Top Vans. Their prices are quite competitive and their service is excellent. It was a while ago, but We definitely didn’t pay $7k like @conchscooter has mentioned.
Hey Guy, it’s called Raptorliner. If you go back a ways on our channel there’s a video of me painting the van. ruclips.net/video/E8spIsItEbU/видео.htmlsi=iYRi27-epgt76rlh
You can get away with 2WD with a locking differential. I do like locking in the transfer case is n steep grades (no brakes). Even if you don't lock the hubs just for the gearing
Hi there..640,000 kms on my Chevy Express when I sold it. The only issue other than maintenance was a new timing chain at 600,000. What a b… to change. One thing for sure is to use an engine additive such as mystery oil to prevent the condensation that builds up in the engine. Seems to show around 400,000 km. If you don’t use an additive such as mystery oil you will get lifter clatter around 400,000 kms. Takes about three oil changes before the lifters clean themselves and go quiet.
@@SlowRoamers one other thing I noticed when I began to add mystery oil to the crankcase. The mystery oil began to remove sludge that had built up over the years. My oil filter picked up the sludge so I was changing the oil filter every 1000km until the engine cleaned itself. You can tell the oil filter is getting full of sludge when the oil pressure starts to drop about ten lbs. That’s when I would change the filter and oil pressure would go back to normal. Keep on trucking. J
Hey there. I'm currently looking for a van that I can live out of, or at the very least road trip comfortably. I stumbled upon your video and found it very helpful! I was looking into Chevy G20 vans because my stepdad had one growing up, and it was kind of my ideal I had in mind. When I saw that there's a more modern version, it definitely intrigued me. I was wondering if you could tell me a little bit about the modifications you've added to yours? For example, I like the look of the roof, but I know next to nothing about what that is or how I would get something similar.
For starters, take a peek at this video, it will likely answer a lot of your questions. ruclips.net/video/c_vpqQDz2I4/видео.htmlsi=93WAavUJoyGllxow The hightop came from a business called High Top Vans in Washougal, WA. If you go there, let them know Slow Roamers sent you. Let me know if there’s anything else you’d like to know.
A box truck with an old-style Chevy express 3500 body would be ideal in my opinion. Pretty sure they use similar engines as well, just as reliable, but just beefier. Plenty of headroom for standing up in and building out because of the box. What’s your take on old box trucks?
Yeah, a 3500 cutaway is basically all the guts of an express, it just left the factory as a cab & chassis. I’d love a box truck as a mobile living situation and have certainly considered it in the past.
Agreed! A smaller box truck has WAY more room, straight walls (a bit wider internally and few/no sloping walls), and apples to apples is less expensive to buy (and less competition when looking). I’d opt for the 6.0 engine
@@SlowRoamers I am a GM fan too. My dad had a few of these vans, It had a n electrical wiring fire and he jumped out on the hwy with seconds to spare. Chevy’s 5.3-liter V8 is known for its long-term lifespan and trustworthiness, but no engine is without problems. Jut search the issues and problems with these motors. The fuel mgmt. cuts off cylinders, then blocks crack and coolant and ....
Oh yeah, for sure. I’ve done a lot more research since making this video and know a lot more about the DoD/AFM issues with the 5.3. I think I’d like stick with a newer 4.8 or 6.0 just to avoid the lifter issues.
Wonder if anyone built a camper out of a 2.8 duramax diesel express van. They come in at 2016 ish or newer, but would probably still be cheaper than a Sprinter of equal mileage / year.
Thank you for this! I prefer the Chevy van myself. I’d like a newer one than 06’ though, before putting $$ into a conversion. The older, the higher mileage (I’m finding only 150k+}, & plastic parts get crumbly. I’ve seen that the newer ones got the dreaded afm engines w/fatal lifters - but the 2500 & 3500 did not? Hard to find accurate info. Did I miss your discussion of the rear axle? I’ve read that it’s an oddball Dana & difficult to add a locker. That & proper tires could save a lot of trouble even w/out 4x4. Which I don’t really want. If I could solve all this, I agree that the Chevy is the superior platform for me. Is there a good website w/specs? Really do enjoy your channel.
Nice thing is, because Chevy didn’t really change much throughout the years, changing out all those crumbly plastic bits is pretty easy. Also, keep in mind that the newer engines also get a few more sensors, which is fine until they don’t work any more. Ours did come with the oddball Dana 60 and that’s why we upgraded to the Dana 70 HD3. Honestly, at this point, the only the van is REALLY lacking is a transfer case with lower gears, it’s got plenty of traction. We’ve considering just popping in a transfer case but we’ve also run out of time, gotta hit the road. We don’t have anything up in the of van details on our website, but perhaps we should do that. Thanks for watching and commenting!🙌🏻
Interesting to go look at these vans that have sold in the past at Regal Auctions, and that paint flaw seems to show up on most, if not all, of them. BTW, for anyone wanting to do that, I found searching various terms did not work and I finally had to search for 'G2500' in order to find the 2500 Express vans that had sold. Looks like the price range for the 2016 models can range from $8K - $16K for example.
Prone to go wrong. you said that right. KISS. All these new trucks/overland vehicles have so much BS going on, I'm afraid half that fancy tech stuff would break after 5-10 years, and they are so freaking expensive.
they are the best cargo van. I have had a few. the check engine light is also been a problem with the ones I have owned. unfortunately gm is going to discontinue the express vans and go electric.
I hated the Buzzers, Bells, and Beeps from noise-making when operating my GMC Savanna: starting the van, putting the key in the ignition, and turning off the engine with the lights on. I hated them all. I paid a mechanic to remove the noise makers. I love the older models with the side barn doors. Not a big fan of the sliders.
I don’t love the slider, it lets out too much heat in cold climates and too much rain in inclement weather. It is heavy and loud and it suxks. I’d much rather have the barn doors.
On the first gen models (96-02) there's a separate module that makes the buzzer noise. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you can remove the speaker for the buzzer and wire in a programmable speaker that lets you use an MP3 file. Currently, my van "buzzes" with the Epic Sax meme sound on repeat. I have also used the Red Alert tone from Star Trek, the F/A-18 radar altimeter warning, and an audio recording of my buddy trying to mimic a goat scream. Any time they get annoying, I plug in my laptop and swap the sounds out.
lol, I’ve been waiting for this question. Ever heard the term, “lights before lockers”? Well, we have a locker, so I figured it was time for lights. 🤣 In truth, It was a brand collaboration so I opted to go all out with it. We definitely don’t need all that light, but it looks cool. Having said that, I have been caught out in the dark many times before and I was always quite pleased to have as much light as we do.
I'm a female Civil War/Rev War re-enactor who is getting to old to sleep on the ground or on a cot in a tent. Looking for something I can sleep in, stand up in. Do you have any recommendations?
@@jamesphillips9516 Alex and Megan will ship the van back from South America, probably from Paraguay to the east coast of Canada or the USA. That's a typical approach since driving down is already 30,000kms.
@@jamesphillips9516 Between Panama and Colombia is a protected wilderness area called the Darien Gap. No roads whatsoever to connect Central and South America. So, if you want to take your vehicle across that gap, you have pay a shipping company to ship it. A few years ago the prices was around $2,800 USD for a vehicle that fits inside a standard container. I'm sure it's more costly now. But you don't have to ship long distances. You can drive to the southern-most region of Panama, ship to Colombia, and then continue the drive down through Patagonia.
There absolutely is a difference between a 3/4 ton and a 1 ton. Engine has nothing to do with it. I have a 6 liter in my 2500 Express van. Go check part numbers on the rear leaf springs. That is just one of the differences. Otherwise, great video. Subscribed.
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As someone who is in the middle of a 2013 Chevy Express 3500 Minibus conversion, I whole heartly agree and appreciate the deeper dive on this reliable platform. Great videos as always. See you on the road in the future!
Heck yeah! Thanks for watching and good luck with the build!🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@SlowRoamers Thanks! I also see we both have a connection to bison/buffalo. 🦬
@@buyzen yep, I worked with them on a farm for about 10 years. They’re a cool animal.
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4WD Simply lets you get Stuck , Further…”😂
I most certainly do not disagree with this statement.🤣
I would have to agree. I have a 2000 Silverado 4x4 with 238k miles. Bought from the original owner at about 100k it burns no oil between changes, has never broken down on the road and with the 4.8 if I keep it at 60mph I can get around 20 mpg. I haven't experienced the paint issue, most people think I have had it repainted but lucky for me, it was pampered from day one and still in great condition. Hang on to yours, it's true, "they don't make 'em like that anymore!"
I’d love 20mpg…or even 17mpg. We’re a little heavy for that though. I think the paint issue is only on the vans. You’re absolutely right, they don’t make’’em like they used to!” 🤣 Thanks for watching!
@@SlowRoamers so what mpg do you get?
@@Trajkociklista depends on what kind of driving, about 12-15mpg
@@SlowRoamers well, considering that a a relatively small 1.9t Jeep ZJ with a V8 does that sort or milage(when I'm really really careful with the throttle 😅 steady 60 on a flat motorway is around 15, 13.5 at 75) 15-12 for a big chunk of a full sized van loaded with all the camper van stuff - doesn't sound that bad at all.
I imagined it would be more like 10-8 with such a large and heavy vehicle
Do you have an idea how much does the van weigh in its roadtrip mode?
@@Trajkociklista yeah, it’s certainly not horrible. I’m pretty light on the throttle, but as soon as we get off highway the mileage plummets pretty quick. Road trips mode, which means always, is 8700lbs right now.
Agreed. I used to be an auto tech in a body shop for over 20 years.
I have always loved these vans and my buddy growing up had an 80s express with all the goods.
Great choise and a ton of aftermarket support for all the components. Great build dude!
They’re just Good’ol basic vans. 😁🙌🏻
A good set of tire chains when your vehicle is challenging traction conditions would greatly make up for the lack of 4x4 capability.
Think Trygg chains.
We already had 3 children of our own, and agreed to foster two teenaged girls in wheelchairs. We bought a gas-powered 15-passenger Express Van 3500 for the conversion. It was rock-solid reliable, with a decent ride and handling, and less thirsty than we anticipated.
They’re a super stout van and will last a long time if cared for. Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
Yup, it's what I have, runs forever, parts availability, mostly it's reliable!!!!!!!
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I have a 2023 AWD Ford Transit with all the bells and whistles so i really have nothing to add to the Chevy Express conversation. But what I can say is Alex, you're totally nailing it with these YT videos. Your talent and hard work is shining through. Keep up the great work! From a fellow BC'er:)
Thanks Robin, I really appreciate the kudos. If you spot, make sure to wave us down!👋🏼👋🏼
@@robinw2560 i just paid 4k for a AWD express 5.3L with 120k miles the things a dream similar top to this. also can swap in a 4x4 transfer case from a silverado. I want this dudes van tho it's a beast
We're convinced!
Good!
We had a ‘98 gmc Savana 1500 conversion (so the clone of the Chevy express) and drive it up to 700,000km. Pulling a trailer.
In the end it was the conversion electrical system that made us sell it. Too buggy. But the platform was great.
I love my GMC Savana 2500 Quigly 4X4 with the 6.0 ltr and the 6L90 trans. Its a beautiful Beast. I also have a 3500 box van i converted into a tiny house on wheels that i currently live in, almost 10 years now, its got the 4.8 ltr with the 6L 90 trans, its a big white turtle. super reliable.
Heck yeah! They’re such good vans. Spread the word!🤣🤣 Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great review. I am a new subscriber and am looking forward to following your latest journey. I have a 2010 GMC Savana self converted with a high top, same engine and overall spec. so it's great to hear all the positive feedback about it's suitability for adventure. Great stuff!
Awesome! Thanks for following along, Richard. Glad you liked the video. It’s always nice when you’re affirmed on a decision you’ve already made, ain’t it?🤣 Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
You are absolutely correct a simple vehicle is the best:)
Haha, thanks for the validation!😁
They are absolutely one of the best budget campers you can possibly build.
We’re certainly inclined to agree!😁
I think you're right: Chevy Express IS a great platform. In the end though, it comes down to what you call the "use case", i.e. what the drivers and build designers have done to optimize the vehicle. The things you've done with the van from a DIY perspective, where you've gone, the roads you've chosen have been the game changer. You've made great choices as owners, vanlifers and overlanders. You've truly mastered the platform potential. Excited for your PanAm adventures.
I am still driving my 88 Toyota for a reason! Simple, easy to work on- can go anywhere.
I’m driving an 88 Toyota too…but it’s got a 2001 Tacoma engine in it…😬😬
Great explanation! Love the pragmatic mentality when approaching the build and making a case for 2WD👍
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The best thing about Sprinters is that they don't compete with Chevy vans for camping spots because they're in the shop
🤣🤣You’re probably not wrong.
We started with a 2007 GMC Savana 2500 without cruise control for our first 7 years on the road. But I noticed that it didn't have a mechanical throttle. So I just bought a cruise control lever and replace the one on the column and voila, I had cruise control.
I don't know of any recall for the paint issue but we lovingly named our van "Chippy".
Nice! 😊
Interesting! I haven’t really researched anything like that, maybe I could upgrade/retrofit.
Thats a fantastic name, so fitting!🤣🤣
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I read up on this as well
Sounds like if it’s a drive by wire adding cruise is very simple.
Swap out the blinker stock for the one with cruise.
Plug it in.
If it is the throttle cable style (earlier models like mine 😕) there is more work involved.
It can be done but you need the cc module (they are not available new anymore). You gotta hunt down a used one.
You also need the cruise control blinker stock.
The cable for the cruise to control the throttle body.
I can’t remember, but I thing might have to program the ECU as well.
@@malimish The paint has a 5 year warranty and paint failures start around year 6, so you're screwed. The paint jobs that are not white in color last forever, so keep that in consideration.
Get a V8, any V8, with a yellow gas cap, so it's flex fuel compatible.
@@stevenmelander5218 Thanks but we've not owned that van for nearly 10 years. Have moved on to other vehicles and probably won't be looking at the Express or Savana any time soon.
I have a 2022 Chevy equinox and it has all the bells and whistles. But I’m so ready to be done with all the electronics (now breaking down) and get back to an old school vehicle! I’m a Chevy girl!
Basic is better. Thanks for watching!😁🙌🏻
I’m not a mechanic but we’ve found ways to get mechanical work done in Panama and Colombia where our van is not sold. We rarely drive over 70 kph on pavement and often 30kph on winding back roads. I don’t envy your lack of air conditioning in the cab and I’ll look forward to watching you sweat in Central America. It was 100 degrees yesterday in Cali and the suicide motorcycles were relentless as usual. Cheers from Colombia and our 2020 Promaster getting the drive done.
Yeah, we’re not looking forward to that aspect of it, it’s gonna be rough for sure. Thanks for watching and drive safe!
Ooo! I see you got Meg’s outside table done! I’ve had camper-vans for the past 20 years, never had 4WD, and have had tons of fun and adventures (albeit not as adventuresome as yours) without ever missing or wishing for it. 4WD is not necessary to explore, I totally agree. The equipment isn’t the point, it’s the time spent with the people you love and you’ve got that figured out at an early stage. Good for you! I love the bloopers, which prove you often have to look like a maniac to “get the shot”! Thanks for the video and looking forward to all the places your van will take you!
Indeed, I think identifying the priorities that matter is a good practice. I’ve missed out on a lot of adventure and travel time by spending lots of time building “the perfect rig” just to find out that what I was building wasn’t quite right. Thanks for watching Tiki Envy’s, we’ll be back on the road soon and showing you what BC really looks like. 😊
Love to see the more of the vehicle. Great content.
Thanks so much! There’s plenty to come!🙌🏻
Minor Minor upgrade but so valuable for protecting bottom, mud flaps. Highly recommend.
I would if I wasn’t likely to rip them off all the time…🫤
I was fortunate enough to find a 7.3 Econoline extended body. I would take it anyday over even the most expensive built out Sprinter. Cheers brother!
That’s the dream, those 7.3’s are a great motor! Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
Thanks for the info Alex! As you know, I have the same model that you do, and YES that paint is horrible. But I appreciate the info on rear axle etc... I'm retired now, and working part time, but definitely thinking about the van and next steps. Currently it is being used as a mobile bike shop, although that will hopefully change over the next couple of years. THANKS again!!
You’re more than welcome, Jackie! Thanks for watching.😊
Just bought a GMC Savanna cargo van in March. (Chevy express with a different label on it. 🤗) Have been outfitting it as a weekend camper van while still using it to drive to work 5 days a week. I agree with what you said about this van being a great platform. Everything you said has made me feel good about my choice and the options I might have for future upgrades to lights and roof height, etc. I like having clearance underneath, and the ability to fit in a normal size parking space. Very practical, and very simple. But mine does have electric windows and a working AC (which is nice) and cruise control (which I really appreciate on long trips.) No navigation or blind spot monitor or parking assist or other fancy doodads though. No hands free phone either, just a very simple radio. I was looking for a truck like you could buy 20 years ago before trucks became expensive luxury status symbols. (Why do trucks have back seats and short beds? How are you going to haul lumber or do anything practical in them?) But I also wanted an enclosed cargo space and that is why I was looking at the Express/Savanna vans.
Nice! Great choice! I’ve been continuously pleasantly surprised by the van. I’m quite sure it will continue to serve you well as long as you keep up with basic maintenance. Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
Intro was pure GOLD.
Yeassss, that’s the only thing I needed from this video.😁🙌🏻
@@SlowRoamers Once spent two days on a 2 minute clip of a podcast remastering an Apollo countdown to be clear. Was my least listened episode. Still proud as hell and the one person that said they liked it made all the difference.
It always the case. The stuff you don’t work as hsrd on does super well and the stuff you pore heart and soul into flat lines.🤦🏼
Thank 4 the information. It really helps. I am searching for a van I have seen other Van lifers say theChevy Express is one of the best.
Especially easy to work on & to find parts. Enjoy & be safe on the road!! Hope to see y’all on the road!!!😊
Glad I could help, thanks for watching!
I own a van just like this and I can tell you from experience. Change over to cross drilled and slotted rotors, and nothing but Napa ceramic pads. Will stop anything.
We’ll be doing a full power stop brake upgrade as soon as we get back to the states!
I got my 2017 Express 3500 three years ago. The kicker is that the used car dealer didn't know that it had an Advanced 4 wheel drive conversion on it, so I got it for the price of a 2 wheel drive which was 17k at the time. It has the 6L in it so the gas mileage sucks but its been a great vehicle.
That’s an awesome find!🙌🏻🙌🏻
@SlowRoamers I just discovered your channel while researching Chevy vans. Thank you for making this fantastic video and I am now your new subscriber. What model year is your van? I am currently shopping for a used Chevy which I plan to set up for occasional camping trips. A question for you and other experienced readers who are willing to share the experience and knowledge. What would be the best model year(s), what engine size and what tranny would you look for if you were in the market for a used Chevy? My budget for just buying a van is under $10 k. Thanks in advance and best wishes from Maryland!!!
Hey, glad you found us and that our video could be of help. Thanks for following along! We have a 2006 2500 1ton package. It’s got the 4.8 with 4L80e 4spd auto. We’re partial to this particular year/engine/weight combination, although I think we’d like the bigger engine. I’m not certain if the express vans come with a 5.3 but if they did, that’s what I’d prefer.
@@SlowRoamers Thank you very much and glad to hear 4.8 is doing ok for you!!! A contractor on hvac-talk forum said this:" My 07 2500 has the 4.8 and even loaded with tools and a ladder on the roof, I haven't noticed any lack of performance." And on Chevrolet forum comments on 4.8 vs bigger in express vans one poster had the same preference you have. He said: " I would go with the 5.3. Its a 327 and newer more efficient engine. Plus it gives you more towing, cargo weight and chassis options." Wishing you and your lovely girlfriend joyful and safe journeys
@@slobodantrendic22 yessir! The 4.8 is great and super reliable albeit a little underpowered for our heavy van, but it gets us around which all we need!
Thank you for the video! Big Chevy fan! I talked with those people in Washington about a 24-inch high roof on an express 3500 ext, and they said it wouldn't be a problem. I love Chevy for the same reasons. LS and more. Very insightful video. I didn't know that much about the rear axle but this made it make perfect sense. GM was probably maximizing profit margins by adding some bs semi floater to the express. It's extremely good to know that another axle even from a Silverado 35 would just slip right in. I was thinking of doing that but for stability purposes for a high top but one of the reasons I think these vans are the ultimate now is because they actually have the same electronic stability control sprinters do now for their tip over control so they can roll all the way over just by swerving. I didn't know about the breaking issue but that could actually explain what's going on with my dad's sierra 2500 6.6 Duramax from 06'. I wish GM would just make a new van for crying out loud. They need to keep it the same mechanically but just bolden the aesthetic the same way they do with all their other consumer model vehicles, but make it more boxed out up at the top like the transit vans. Not to copy a transit or become a Chevy sprinter. Those other vans have that girly feminine looking front end that's just not ok for a man to drive, and it's transcendent to it's drive components because their 25 and 3500s vans even with duallys' in the back still don't out tow/haul express vans. At the same time the attention transits/sprinters get makes it seem like they have more aftermarket part availability. I've watched you guys a little, and I don't actually like your build but I respect your depth of knowledge from crafting your rig basically from the ground up. I'm also convinced that express vans are the ultimate budget build platform as well, and I want to show up everybody else rig on RUclips with my own including the highest end sprinters. Looking on Facebook market for a van, I realized they had that flaking issue.. Yeah they're not perfect vans but I still think they're the best for people like me with little bits of money. I want a $15-25k ish build including the van.
Well that was quite the read.
I agree that it would be nice to have some vertical walls, it would increase space and make it so much easier to build inside. I don’t see what people see in the promasters and transits, but they do come from the factory as high tops which is a huge plus for livability when built out. Also, I think non-car people put a lot of trust in modern technology, not realizing that modern vehicles are quickly slipping past the level of reliability that vehicles once had in exchange for convenience and comfort and being over engineered.
Anyway, thanks for watching and commenting. Best of luck with the build.
@@SlowRoamers Absolutely brother!
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The best thing about the ford and chevy vans is that you get a real engine and a real suspension not the euro trash they put on transits and sprinters. We won't even mention the ram van(front wheel drive pffffft)
lol, I’m inclined to agree. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the dual I beam suspension on the Econoline. I like the express suspension because there’s fewer camber issues for tire wear.
@@stahpit1971 I’ll make a case for the Transit van, only because I owned one, and drove it into places a 2wd van shouldn’t go. I also drove to Tuktoyaktuk with it. It’s surprisingly comfortable and seemed to articulate well enough for my purposes. McPherson strut set ups are simple enough, and there’s lots of options for suspension for the transits now. It was a good van! Easy to maintain, easy to repair. I had zero issues in the 4 years I owned it.
@desolationoverland preach it brudda 🤣🤣 If you still had it I’d tell you to go get a WTD lift kit.
Isn't ram technically euro trash too? I haven't looked lately but they used to be owned by Fiat same as dodge lol
Not entirely sure, but recently I watched a video saying to not buy anything Stellantis unless it has a Cummins in it. Everything is an opinion, but some opinions of factually backed. I’m general I don’t trust anything past early 2000’s as shortly after the ability to work on your own vehicle without advanced/expensive tools started to disappear…
Great information! Thanks! Have you ever compared the INTERIOR length, width and height of your Chevy to a short and tall Sprinter, Transit or Promaster? Did you find that the interior space of your chevy was similar or a lot smaller?
All those vans have slightly larger interior spaces, their boxier designs lend to that. I never tried to compare them because I was never interested in any of them.
And for Chevy rear ends if you ever wanted to stay Chevy I run the 14 bolt out of the obs 2500s and it works great and very serviceable if you ever have to
That’s actually what I was looking for, but I just happened to wind up with a Dana 70 out of a Duramax Express.
@@SlowRoamers that’s honestly one of the best rear ends you can run but the price point of the 14 bolt is crazy I got mine for $300 Canadian
Yeah, they’re quite cheap and honestly “better” built with the dual sheer pinion. I just couldn’t complain with a bolt in Dana.
wow wow wow this is a 2 wheels drive ?????!! wow wow wow! Amazing!!
You betcha.😁🙌🏻
Many years ago millions of drivers made the transition from cars to pick-up trucks because they retained many of the basic, simple design features and repair features of the cars of the 80's and before. Then they evolved the pick-up truck into luxury vehicles with masses of high tech electronics, leather seats, sun roofs and all the bells and whistles. The evolution created more to go wrong and less that could be repaired by the vehicle owner. Luckily, the full size contractor vans have not undergone the same evolution and upgrades as pick-up trucks and have remain simple, hardy workhorses that just get the job done.
Hear hear! Planned obsolescence. The way they’re making vehicles nowadays, they’re just being built to break down and be returned to the dealership. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to have some of the comforts, but seems like mechanics have to be rocket scientists to work on vehicles now and the manufacturers are not back down on this policy.🫤
All the reasons I have my van 😎
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No ac? What the heck, like never installed from factory or it's dead? That's really cool that you can add the high tops aftermarket. I'm thinking about getting a 12 passenger with the 6.0 when I eventually replace my Toyota Sienna. I really like the idea of having the ability to tow, haul, and parts are dirt cheap and widely available. The only downside I can see with these is they're gas hogs. I have a couple Ford vehicles and I hate working on them, total pain and parts quality for OEM isn't there.
Came without AC. It’s a Canadian vehicle, AC isn’t necessary for survival up here.🤣 The 6.0 can consume a lot of fuel for sure, the 4.8 can be pretty decent. We can see 15mpg consistently on the highway, probably a lot more if we ditched a bunch of weight. I’ve only heard about having to work on Ford’s, but what I’ve heard shares your sentiments. I’d say AC Delco stuff which is effectively factory replacement is pretty dang good quality.
@SlowRoamers ahh, that makes sense. Down here in the southeast people get rid of cars left and right if the AC goes out. 15 mpg isn't terrible considering the weight you're hauling. Really if the 6.0 gets like 16 or 17 lightly loaded I'll be happy. My old 01 Sienna only gets like a max of 19 or 20 on the highway, typically only 18. Yeah I call Ford's OEM Motorcraft Motorcrap. If I can find a Denso or other good quality aftermarket I go that route.
Denso and AC Delco are the only two brands I trust nowadays.
I was looking for a used one of those for years but for some reason the used market was really beat up more than the Ford ones. Ended up with the Ford version of your van. 4.6 e250 shorty. I think the "overlanding" equipment aftermarket is a bit larger on the Ford side but it's got its own problems like spark plugs popping out. Haha. Have you gotten your 4.8 tuned? Looking at getting mine done to help with some of those hills.
They’ve all got their issues in some form or the other, but yeah, there’s a little more aftermarket support for Ford for whatever reason. I haven’t done a tune. I’d be a little skeptical of it, I do find that although the factory tune may not be as fuel efficient or powerful, it’s safe, and that’s mainly what we need out of a motor for our trip.
Great video Carlos as always! Would love to hear more about oxtail.
I agree. I have a 1991 Dodge Xplorer. 360 ci engine. Excellent rig, repair parts anywhere (if you need one). Basic, within my ability to get back to civilization.
🙌🏻🙌🏻 Shall we call it, “basic is best”?🤣
If you got a 03-07 express without cruise control you can add it just by swapping in a turn signal stalk for a express van that came with cruise
Oh interesting! Perhaps I’ll try that. Thanks for the tip!
@@SlowRoamers actually you may need drive by wire I forgot my 2003 van has a cable throttle body 🤷
Ah yes. We’ve got the same, cable throttle body.
@@SlowRoamers i like the drive by wire, it's smoother and saves on gas a little. because the computer can feather out throttle input. But the drive by cable is a better design more simple which is always better and better throttle response almost to much I can even drive it barefoot and feel every twitch of the pedal lol. I'm glad mine came with cruise control tho I think it uses vacuum to control a second cable pretty cool. Deft not a simple swap like the drive by wire cruise
@@SlowRoamers can you check your van to see if the throttle has 2 cables that would be awesome if they came equipped I swear videos online say you just need to swap the turn stalk
2000 Chevy a express 1500 ' that's what I'm talking bout lol and living in Yeehaw I need ideas on redoing the I side .. Ok go na watch . peace
Thanks for watching! 😁🙌🏻🙌🏻
Love the video, man. Full sized cargo/passenger vans, especially retired ambulances, are fantastic platforms. I like the Express Vans over the Econolines, especially the LWB.
If you don’t mind me asking, how come you got the 4.8, instead of the 5.3 or the 6.0?
I personally didn’t make the decision, Meg my partner purchased the van prior to us meeting. I likely would have got a bigger engine had I know what I know now and was present during the purchase.
@@SlowRoamers ah gotcha I hear ya, still a fantastic platform.
Nice review. Great on details and reasoning for the choice. We made different choices for different reasons, but I can see how your choices are working out well for you! Perhaps we'll meet up on the road someplace.
To each their own, indeed. Thanks for watching, Tim!
If you plan to do long days (600 miles +) cruise control is a must unless you like leg cramps. Same with A/C. In 100 degree heat you'll be worn out long before you ever make 600 miles.
Luckily for us that’s basically never the case. I’ve driven basic, shitbox vehicles my entire life, I’m good with a lack of comfort. Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
The positive thing about the Chevrolet and GMC models is nothing has been appreciably changed since 1996 so parts are available - cannot say the same for Ford who often changes parts twice in a year so parts can be iffy especially if you break down in a small town.
Totally agree!
Don’t forget that the Express Van/Savana are LWB for the extended models, whereas the Fords have the overhang of a frigging school bus 😅
@@miggster324 No doubt, which reduced the departure angle.
Econoline parts are EVERYWHERE
@@reidcrosby6241We are comparing apples and oranges - A new Chevy has most parts interchangeable clear back almost 30 years but a brand new Ford Transit does not
I second the notion that 99% of the time I don’t need 4WD. My present Tundra is the first 4x4 I’ve owned in 54 years of driving. I’ve lived in Alaska, N. California, Washington, Montana, and driven most of the northern states winter and summer. The Tundra is a 2019 and the only time it goes into 4 wheel drive is to test it once a year😊. Now if I were rock climbing with a van then you bet it would have four wheel drive but would still be a Chevy, Ford, or Nissan conversion.
Just for giggles the only time I ever got stuck off road was in my dad’s then new 1973 Landcruiser. That’s when I decided to never own a vehicle that didn’t have a locking rear end. Had to walk 10 miles to town to get a friend to tow me.
Thanks for commenting Brian. I’m glad there’s a few people that share my thoughts on 4WD. Undoubtedly it would be nice to have, but different tools are required for different jobs and we’re not on a 4WD job.🤣
Everyone will get stuck, 4WD will get you stuck further out.🤣 I hope your 10mile walk was rewarded with a cold beer at the end. Thanks for watching!🙌🏻
Have you tried sealing up the gap on the brakes with JB Weld, then filing it to fit?
Ooof, no I haven’t, but I think I’d sooner get new calipers.
I have a 1999 Express 2500 that I bought for $700 in 2018. It has the 5.0 which, I read online, is a 350 with smaller pistons? I'm told that makes the engine more durable. Anyway, I enjoy the ride quality the longer wheel base provides and the way the transmission shifts for effortless extra power without having to stomp on the accererator like other vehicles. I've put some money into it but I actually prefer it over my 1997 Dodge B2500. It's longer, wider, has a longer wheel base, much stronger suspension and the AC works! I still have the Dodge because it's a high top and it has the 360 which is a beast of an engine that has never left me stranded. I really appreciate your humor! Saw you guys on Foresty Forest but didn't get a chance to subscribe. Excuse me now while I go take care of that!
Awesome! Is it the 5.3? I’ve never heard of a 5.0 in a Chevy, but I don’t know everything. Glad you found us, thanks for watching!
It's either a 6.0 or a 5.3.. chevy never made a 5.0
@@Liimpy Chevy made plenty of 5.0's in the form of a 305 (my old Camaro had one), but not in a long time and not on the LSx platform.
@@deucebigs9860 fair enough, I don't think any have been produced in my lifetime
Good choice.
I like to think so.😊🙌🏻
Can't never go wrong With a Chevy easy to work on parts are cheap and easy to find new or used parts and not to mention resell Hell lot better
Heck yeah my dude!😁🙌🏻
I’m watching from my 21 Chevy express 2500. I have the 6.6l I need the short wheelbase. I think it was a U-Haul rig. Other the the low top, I’m loving mine!
Nice!🙌🏻🙌🏻
😁 Best van in my opinion.
Yep!
Nice rig, Happy travels.
Thanks!🙌🏻
I'm not a fan boy of any specific brand and I think there are always pros and cons to all of them. I went with the Econoline purely because there are just so many of them and they are easy, cheap, and did I mention just so many of them! They did make more of them and for a longer time period if I recall correctly compared to Chevy, but honestly I wanted a solid front axle and not CV axles on the few Chevy's I did find for sale. There were so many $$$$$ Sprinters and Transits, but just a few more Econoline's 4x4 for sale when I was looking. I think from 1993 to now the Fords are all very similar with the main changes being about the different engine options, or the smaller parts on E150s (nobody should convert those IMHO). You can bolt a 2010+ front clip on a 1993 if you wanted it to look newer. Also the 5x7 headlights is an option as well, oh and I got my high-top for $150 at a junkyard and did it myself! I did however buy a 4x4 converted van and agree 100% with you about 2WD is all that's needed most the time. I came from a 2WD Class C RV towing a Jeep TJ and took that RV across creeks and to places most wouldn't. Not once did I get stuck, the 2WD with better tires and lower air pressure goes a LONG ways. I've been in the 4x4 E350 for almost 3 months now with ~5000 miles with close to 1k being off road. This comment comes from BLM and Starlink actually LOL. So far I've had to use 4x4 four or five times and most of them were on OHV trails. I've only used 4x4 once on a Forest road and that was earlier in the season with a pretty bad washout area, actually got the front tire off the ground then. Hope to catch ya out camping sometime, cheers and safe travels! -Tom
Thanks for the comment, Tom! I do agree, the solid front axle option that ford comes with is primo. The next truck I build will have a ford front end in it.🤣 Keep an eye out for us, we’re around. 🙌🏻
@SlowRoamers Nice! I'd like to build something sorta like the "AVEON RV", but smaller, on an older chassis and with a 12v Cummins 🤣 Gonna keep dreaming about it 🍻
@@joulemine Cummins swap EVERYTHING! I have dreamt of putting a 12valve in a truck one day, but have recently been turned off them due to their weight. They're such a heavy vehicle engine that they really begin to wear on steering parts. Not particularly ideal for super remote/ long term travel...although, I could be totally wrong.
@SlowRoamers Powerstrokes (6.7 & 7.3) along with the 5.9 Cummins are all right at 1000 lbs for the engine. Gas V8s are about half that typically. Tons of F250s and F550s with plenty of miles on them. The Dodge axles were known for wearing balljoints. I like the 12 Valve purely for the mechanical fuel pump and ease to get it working. It's like 4 or 5 wires 😆. Its also known for good MPGs. Honestly, driveshafts become an issue on longer wheel bases with heavy rigs anyway. So it's not like it'd be possible to do the same wheeling a properly set up Yota, Jeep, etc would do. Pros and Cons to everything for sure. I've seen a few TDI swapped TJs and JKs, even a 4BT Cummins, but they have to be tuned up and higher RPMs for power. Not sure they'd go well with a heavy camper 🤷♂️
I have a express 3500 small box truck with the single rear wheels.
The box is the same width of the van body.
I’m converting it into a overland-ish camper.
I to have traveled extensively into wild back country with 2wd trucks.
A small lift, good tires, a locker, and a touch of skill will get you pretty damn far.
Preach it man! 😁🙌🏻
@@SlowRoamers
What locker or limited slip did you put in your rear end ?
Is it the Dana super 70 ?
That’s what my van has.
Can’t find much of anything for them.
There’s the rare factory g80 locker.
But that’s like finding hens teeth.
My research shows me the super 70 is different than the HD Dana 70 (which there are lots of parts for).
So is this RWD you and he has?
@@bdmenne yep, just RWD.😊
@@SlowRoamers I was interested in the Mercedes Metris. A lil concerned about it not being AWD. But I know it’s mechanics is $$$$.
Your rig looks like the Goldilocks between Metris $ my Dodge Caravan Minivan
How is it with driving in high winds on the road with the high top? Did you ever feel like you would tip over? Or do you just reduce speed?
The van is reasonably wide and the top is certainly one of the more aerodynamic of the available tops, plus it’s only a medium top. We’ve never had crazy violent sidewinds like what they get in the Midwest, but I don’t think it would be much of an issue.
I have a medium hightop ford wheel chair van. Drove cross country twice Driven thru Wyoming during "high profile vehicle wind warnings" with absolutely no issues.
Thanks for the video, you got me interested in the rear axle and engine swap. Just bought a used 2014 chevy express 3500 15 passenger van 4.8l which apparently comes with a free floating rear differential and for sure comes with a gutless motor. LSD was an optional upgrade when bought brand new, havent looked to see if it has it yet. Im assuming that means adding lsd to the current axle might be an option? I have a 6.7 cummins and still take it easy uphill anyways :)
The LSD is a big upgrade, I’m not sure about finding it though, upgrading the Dana 70’s apparently a challenge. For a 3500 the 4.8 is certainly a little small, but I think it’ll get you around fine.
@@SlowRoamers yea, it does fine on highway 108/ sonora pass in california, which is one of the steepest I know of. Unfortunately you might have to wind the motor out a little bit more than a bigger bore or turbo diesel.
Look for the G80 designation on the spec code sheet, usually found in the glove box, on trucks anyways
Since the Nissan NVs are no more, and no one wants to sell theirs.. I’m definitely looking for a Chevy Express, Passenger regular WL. Preferably with Driver Convenience Package and Leather seats if possible. I’m also highly considering if I cannot find one specced how I’d like it, to get one built / ordered… these things do it all including towing! House style outlets in them ect. Plus I see them as equity in a way because of how well they hold value when taken care of. You can definitely get more money back than most things on the road. Looked at a few used ones already. They’re hit or miss on how used they were even under 50k miles. Most are also white, not the black or grey..
Yeah, those Express vans are hard to come by in great condition and with all the features you are after.
@Vandantcyclone I have a 2017 NV 200. I absolutely love it. I've been part-time vanlife traveling throughout northeastern US & Canada for the past 5 yrs. It's really inexpensive to run vs the larger vans.
Did they ever come with a Cummins?
Awesome van! I’m torn between a van and a pick up truck for my family. I like that the truck has 4x4 already and has more comfortable and modern features, but I like that the van has way more interior space. I don’t understand why these vans don’t have a 4x4 option from the factory. I know yours is 2WD and is very capable, but it just seems silly to me since they are very similar to a pick up truck. I’ve got 5 in my family so I don’t think all of us will be able to sleep inside comfortably so I would probably just set it up as a gear hauler with a removable platform bed in back that we can use in a pinch.
I agree, seeing as it’s pretty close to a truck chassis, 4x4 is fitting, however I think we have to look at it from a use-case and manufacturer point of view. The van was built as a contractor/ delivery van, based in cities. I don’t think Chevy would likely have profited from a 4x4 van like they would from a more affordable 2wd van. That being said, there is an AWD 1500 model. Our choices to keep the van 2WD aren’t for everyone. I would have likely searched for a 4wd option if I had been purchasing with Meg, but I’m happy with how the van has performed otherwise. Thanks for watching!
@@SlowRoamers most pickups are used in cities as contractor vehicles as well in 2WD and 4x4. The vast majority of pick ups I see are 4x4 in northern USA with ice and snow. If just seems odd to me that it was never an option
@@woolengrappler If only we had say in manufacturers choices eh? haha
My favorite is the 2017 Dodge Caravan, basic model which unfortunately means no built in kids entertainment DVD screens. But it does have 2 electric front windows!!!!!!!!
Well, having “overlanded” that very van, I can vouche for its fuel efficiency, space and reliability.🤣🤣
my 4.8 is pissed that I did the weldtec 5" lift
lol, it’s a plucky little motor, but def gets bogged down with weight, big tires and height.
I would definitely go with one of the big 3 for simplicity and how easy they are to work on. Id personally lean towards Ford for the obnoxtious numbers of them on the road and aftermarket support. Plus the Econolines share many chassis parts with the Super Duty. Really can't go wrong with either..cool vid
Yep, to each their own. I really love the proportions of the Econoline vans, even more so than the Express’, but I’ve always had a liking for Chevy. Thanks for watching!
You mentioned the noisy brake problem. I'm having the same problem with my Pontiac Torrent SUV and the shop can't seem to figure out how to fix it.
Unfortunately I can’t speak to any issues with brakes on a Pontiac as I have no experience with them. If they’re a similar design then it might an issue. It’s from vertical travel of the brake pad in its mounting perch/groove.
Nice video, def happy with my 08 3500!!
Heck yeah man! 🙌🏻 Thanks for watching!
Nice video thx for sharing your opinion!
Hahaha, that doesn’t happen often, someone thanking you for your opinion.🤣 thanks for watching!🙌🏻🙌🏻
That intro is 11/10
Thanks my friend. I had a lot of fun with it. I wish I could have done more.😊
Agreed!!
@@SlowRoamers very overlandy
@@b.s.adventures9421 yessssss🙌🏻🤣
Great video... and logo! have you found a reliable aftermarket cruise for the express? many do not have cruise. thank you
Thanks so much! Haven’t found anything for cruise control, but also haven’t been looking.
Depending on the year, you might be able to get away with installing an OE switch. If it's an older drive-by-wire, then most of the wiring and modules are already there.
It’s cable throttle still. 🫤
@@SlowRoamers Interesting!! I thought all the LS engines went drive-by-wire by 2003. TIL!
Apparently it was at a later date. I’ve checked and my throttle body is cable.
Hi Alex, Thanks for a very informative video. May I know how much it costs to have a medium roof installed on a Chevy Express?
About ten thousand US depending on how much work you have the factory do - windows insulation etc…barebones around $7000.
It would be best to put an email into High Top Vans. Their prices are quite competitive and their service is excellent. It was a while ago, but We definitely didn’t pay $7k like @conchscooter has mentioned.
It sounds like it’s probably Fiberine or Wasatch you’re referencing? HTV is far less expensive than that as I recall.
Thank you for the info.@@SlowRoamers
About the paint, what did you end up coating it with? Nice vehicle by the way.
Hey Guy, it’s called Raptorliner. If you go back a ways on our channel there’s a video of me painting the van.
ruclips.net/video/E8spIsItEbU/видео.htmlsi=iYRi27-epgt76rlh
Thank you
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You can get away with 2WD with a locking differential. I do like locking in the transfer case is n steep grades (no brakes). Even if you don't lock the hubs just for the gearing
Hi there..640,000 kms on my Chevy Express when I sold it. The only issue other than maintenance was a new timing chain at 600,000. What a b… to change. One thing for sure is to use an engine additive such as mystery oil to prevent the condensation that builds up in the engine. Seems to show around 400,000 km. If you don’t use an additive such as mystery oil you will get lifter clatter around 400,000 kms. Takes about three oil changes before the lifters clean themselves and go quiet.
Thanks for the insight, I’ll add that to the maintenance regime! And 640,000km!!!!!! Holy smokes
@@SlowRoamers one other thing I noticed when I began to add mystery oil to the crankcase. The mystery oil began to remove sludge that had built up over the years. My oil filter picked up the sludge so I was changing the oil filter every 1000km until the engine cleaned itself. You can tell the oil filter is getting full of sludge when the oil pressure starts to drop about ten lbs. That’s when I would change the filter and oil pressure would go back to normal. Keep on trucking. J
Thanks for the tip!🙌🏻
Hey there. I'm currently looking for a van that I can live out of, or at the very least road trip comfortably. I stumbled upon your video and found it very helpful! I was looking into Chevy G20 vans because my stepdad had one growing up, and it was kind of my ideal I had in mind. When I saw that there's a more modern version, it definitely intrigued me. I was wondering if you could tell me a little bit about the modifications you've added to yours? For example, I like the look of the roof, but I know next to nothing about what that is or how I would get something similar.
For starters, take a peek at this video, it will likely answer a lot of your questions.
ruclips.net/video/c_vpqQDz2I4/видео.htmlsi=93WAavUJoyGllxow
The hightop came from a business called High Top Vans in Washougal, WA. If you go there, let them know Slow Roamers sent you. Let me know if there’s anything else you’d like to know.
doesn't Wilwood or some similar aftermarket company make a complete front brake replacement for the Chevy Express 2500?
If they do, I know nothing about it. Apparently it’s time to go search the internets.
A box truck with an old-style Chevy express 3500 body would be ideal in my opinion. Pretty sure they use similar engines as well, just as reliable, but just beefier. Plenty of headroom for standing up in and building out because of the box. What’s your take on old box trucks?
Yeah, a 3500 cutaway is basically all the guts of an express, it just left the factory as a cab & chassis. I’d love a box truck as a mobile living situation and have certainly considered it in the past.
Agreed! A smaller box truck has WAY more room, straight walls (a bit wider internally and few/no sloping walls), and apples to apples is less expensive to buy (and less competition when looking). I’d opt for the 6.0 engine
What he said😁
The Chevy vans were notorious for catching on fire.
Keep a Fire Extinguisher handy.
Interesting. Sounds like Chevy a g30 problem, not so much an express problem. Nonetheless, we’ve got a fire extinguisher on board.
@@SlowRoamers I am a GM fan too. My dad had a few of these vans, It had a n electrical wiring fire and he jumped out on the hwy with seconds to spare. Chevy’s 5.3-liter V8 is known for its long-term lifespan and trustworthiness, but no engine is without problems. Jut search the issues and problems with these motors. The fuel mgmt. cuts off cylinders, then blocks crack and coolant and ....
Oh yeah, for sure. I’ve done a lot more research since making this video and know a lot more about the DoD/AFM issues with the 5.3. I think I’d like stick with a newer 4.8 or 6.0 just to avoid the lifter issues.
Had an 04 6.0l work van 326k miles on it.
That’s a loooooot of miles
Wonder if anyone built a camper out of a 2.8 duramax diesel express van. They come in at 2016 ish or newer, but would probably still be cheaper than a Sprinter of equal mileage / year.
I’ve seen a 4x4 Duramax express cutaway box truck, it was one the coolest rigs I’ve seen.
Thank you for this! I prefer the Chevy van myself. I’d like a newer one than 06’ though, before putting $$ into a conversion. The older, the higher mileage (I’m finding only 150k+}, & plastic parts get crumbly. I’ve seen that the newer ones got the dreaded afm engines w/fatal lifters - but the 2500 & 3500 did not? Hard to find accurate info. Did I miss your discussion of the rear axle? I’ve read that it’s an oddball Dana & difficult to add a locker. That & proper tires could save a lot of trouble even w/out 4x4. Which I don’t really want. If I could solve all this, I agree that the Chevy is the superior platform for me. Is there a good website w/specs? Really do enjoy your channel.
Nice thing is, because Chevy didn’t really change much throughout the years, changing out all those crumbly plastic bits is pretty easy. Also, keep in mind that the newer engines also get a few more sensors, which is fine until they don’t work any more. Ours did come with the oddball Dana 60 and that’s why we upgraded to the Dana 70 HD3. Honestly, at this point, the only the van is REALLY lacking is a transfer case with lower gears, it’s got plenty of traction. We’ve considering just popping in a transfer case but we’ve also run out of time, gotta hit the road. We don’t have anything up in the of van details on our website, but perhaps we should do that. Thanks for watching and commenting!🙌🏻
Majority of afm engines have lasted for 100s of thousands of miles , there's a few years to avoid, but Majority were just fine
Video starts around 2:35
Interesting to go look at these vans that have sold in the past at Regal Auctions, and that paint flaw seems to show up on most, if not all, of them. BTW, for anyone wanting to do that, I found searching various terms did not work and I finally had to search for 'G2500' in order to find the 2500 Express vans that had sold. Looks like the price range for the 2016 models can range from $8K - $16K for example.
@@MountainParameters thank you.
Prone to go wrong. you said that right. KISS. All these new trucks/overland vehicles have so much BS going on, I'm afraid half that fancy tech stuff would break after 5-10 years, and they are so freaking expensive.
Preach it!🙌🏻
Great video!!!! What size tire are you running? And I’m guessing the lift in the rear are the leaf springs?
Thanks Byron! Wheel size is 285/75/16 and yes, it’s got a progressive leaf spring in the rear that account for about 3.5”
Great video! I’m going to be looking into one.
Great decision, thanks for watching!🙌🏻
i like your style. subbed.
Thanks Jack, glad to have you along for the ride!🙌🏻
they are the best cargo van. I have had a few. the check engine light is also been a problem with the ones I have owned. unfortunately gm is going to discontinue the express vans and go electric.
I knoooooww, what a sad reality. The last of the greats is going out of production. 🫤
I hated the Buzzers, Bells, and Beeps from noise-making when operating my GMC Savanna: starting the van, putting the key in the ignition, and turning off the engine with the lights on. I hated them all. I paid a mechanic to remove the noise makers. I love the older models with the side barn doors. Not a big fan of the sliders.
I don’t love the slider, it lets out too much heat in cold climates and too much rain in inclement weather. It is heavy and loud and it suxks. I’d much rather have the barn doors.
On the first gen models (96-02) there's a separate module that makes the buzzer noise. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you can remove the speaker for the buzzer and wire in a programmable speaker that lets you use an MP3 file. Currently, my van "buzzes" with the Epic Sax meme sound on repeat. I have also used the Red Alert tone from Star Trek, the F/A-18 radar altimeter warning, and an audio recording of my buddy trying to mimic a goat scream. Any time they get annoying, I plug in my laptop and swap the sounds out.
That all sounds far too above my head.🤣
@@SlowRoamers it's super simple - I'll send you a how-to on IG this weekend
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Just curious.... why so many extra lights? Who drives in the backcountry at night?
lol, I’ve been waiting for this question. Ever heard the term, “lights before lockers”? Well, we have a locker, so I figured it was time for lights. 🤣 In truth, It was a brand collaboration so I opted to go all out with it. We definitely don’t need all that light, but it looks cool. Having said that, I have been caught out in the dark many times before and I was always quite pleased to have as much light as we do.
I'm a female Civil War/Rev War re-enactor who is getting to old to sleep on the ground or on a cot in a tent. Looking for something I can sleep in, stand up in. Do you have any recommendations?
I’d consider a roadtrek conversion.
Great information, can you tell me what the inside dimensions are, length & width? Really like the idea of the Chevy 2500.
Roughly 5x5x9 I think.
i'd love to see you swap a ls in 1 day without complications :D
lol, not sure we’re going to do a bigger engine on the van, but we will do it on another vehicle. That was a hint.😉
Ah, I see what you meant now. Well, perhaps a day is a little quick, but nonetheless, apparently it’s a relatively easy swap.
WHAT YEAR is your model?
2006
Still undecided. But chevy is top on my list but what year is the best
Ours is a 2006 if that helps. They’re all great vans, they just get more complex as they get newer.
Great video good points. Curious can you stand up in it?
Not me personally but my fiancé can which was the main concern.
The lower roof is also intentional so the van can still fit inside a shipping container.
@@alistairjackson7658 Huh... why would you put it in a shipping container?
@@jamesphillips9516 Alex and Megan will ship the van back from South America, probably from Paraguay to the east coast of Canada or the USA. That's a typical approach since driving down is already 30,000kms.
@@jamesphillips9516 Between Panama and Colombia is a protected wilderness area called the Darien Gap. No roads whatsoever to connect Central and South America. So, if you want to take your vehicle across that gap, you have pay a shipping company to ship it. A few years ago the prices was around $2,800 USD for a vehicle that fits inside a standard container. I'm sure it's more costly now. But you don't have to ship long distances. You can drive to the southern-most region of Panama, ship to Colombia, and then continue the drive down through Patagonia.
Great video 📹 dude
Thanks amigo!🙌🏻🙌🏻
There absolutely is a difference between a 3/4 ton and a 1 ton. Engine has nothing to do with it. I have a 6 liter in my 2500 Express van. Go check part numbers on the rear leaf springs. That is just one of the differences.
Otherwise, great video. Subscribed.
Right on, thanks for watching and following along!🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great opinion on the 2500, really dig the rig, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Scott!🙌🏻
Yes it is.. to me its Express gargo van
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