Buvey was for once the only one who made some sense. Rory omitting KDB in midfield and Adam saying Rashford is better than Son. Totally deranged takes.
@@liamhackett7223 yea it’s weird, he’s down to earth kind of guy usually, I like his takes most of the time but then out of nowhere, sometimes it’s like he has a City agenda to push idk 🤷🏻♂️
@@boltonwandererscluboffootb4615tbf he was right, he predicted that Trent was weak defensively and everybody laughed at him, and then he was proved right with Trent sending Liverpool to Europa league
Saying Pepe Reina was a terrible keeper is an all timer Rory shout, it's up there with Haaland being 'disrespectful to the establishment' Pepe Reina won the PL golden glove in his first, second and third season in the league - in a league with Cech, Van der Sar, Lehman Fastest PL keeper to reach 100 clean sheets He was also sort of ahead of his time in terms of playing out from the back and being good with his feet
I’m a Liverpool fan and FOR ONCE unfortunately I agree with one of Rory’s statements! He actually wasn’t a good keeper! He was one of the first to be good with his feet and turn over player! As a keep he was not that good
He was fantastic in his first 3-4 seasons, he was on a downward trajectory by the time he left though and wasn't as good as he was when he first came in.
I’ve never seen someone so stupid speak with so much authority. He’s wrong all the time but rubs his chin and speaks like the messiah. He’s an absolute tool. This doesn’t just apply to his football knowledge either, when you hear him speak about pretty much any subject you realise that he’s just thick.
Been out for 6 months out the 12 is a valid point but KDB is top 3 all time prem mids. Be like trying to debate Salah who's the best winger in prem history. Sometimes people have just hit levels where you just can't even debate not having them in and when your in this debate and also the all time prem XI it's non negotiable.
Rory with an absolute mare over KDB. KDB will go down as an all time premier league great probably top 5 midfielder ever, and im a liverpool fan. Of course hes in, how hes managed to turn it into a 10 minute debate and pick Rice over him is embarrassing lmao.
He is currently the best midfielder in epl history, in football history he is up there with xavi, iniesta, Zidane and modric, if he played for Barcelona or real Madrid he would have been the best midfielder in history
@@fathialjack2009 I mean you're not wrong, if he was making those passes in a real madrid shirt ppl would comfortably be putting him in that bracket. He 100% should be in that debate.
He isn't better than Son, but let's be real here, he's better than Diaz, Martinelli and Grealish, you can't just shit on a player who had 30 goals and 11 assists like season just because his team this year is infinitely worse He is a special player ability wise, and I really don't think he was as bad as people say this season
@@ionuttrif8378no you can cause rashford is a form, usually last season is relevant to a player’s performance especially if they’re injured but for rashford it doesn’t matter since he can be great last season but awful like now
Rory has lost his mind. They said at the start if they’re picking an 11 to go play aliens or like space jam. Then De Bruyne is arguably the first name on the team sheet alongside Alisson, Salah and Haaland
@@SHW201 I’m a Liverpool fan and I’d say VVD is 6th on the list, after the 4 mentioned and rodri. It’s down to his dip in form last season but the competition at CB is still high, but VVD is still the best in the world
@@adeelarmhead9469there is no conversation to be had. Rodri is light years clear of Rice. Not to say Rice isn’t good, he’s decent, but he ain’t close to Rodris level
Is Buvey actually being the most reasonable person on this? Reina was a class keeper. That whole KDB thing was kind of wild with them each making a difference case for what they are basing picks on, showing thier agenda's. Rory just wanted to get Bernardo in because his the worlds biggest Bernando Silva fanboy, so was trying to restrict it to form in the last few months. Adam was trying to eliminate any mention of form being relevant to try and justify his later pick of Rashford. Buvey being reasonable and saying its over the year. You can't pick people that have played 6 games all year, but if someone has been insane for 6 months and injured the rest, that doesn't entirely discount them.
Reina wasn't class. He was a good goalkeeper sure. Not class tho. He made me extremely nervous. Never 100% commanded the box. Would have a slip up every two games. He was one of the best Penalty Kick savers tho. Had some excellent reflexes too and decent distribution. A class GK is a player that puts your mind at ease 90% of games. He just doesn't fit that category.
@@chrispalmer7893 I disagree man, I don't think he was class at all. I always felt he looked really nervous when it came to collecting crosses and commanding his box. Good player sure but wasn't world class by any stretch.
I think its his all time worst take. They started the video by saying its not about form and he turns it into a last 12 month convo. Rory just killed me in this one. Tough to listen to
Surprised there was such an argument for Bernardo vs KDB instead of Bernardo vs Rice. Could easily just plug City's entire midfield into the team and it would be the best midfield. Rodri, Bernardo, KDB.
It’s funny the excuse for Dias was he had no midfield for a couple weeks. But not taken into account for VVD last season when he had Henderson Fabinho and Milner infront of him with no legs 🤣
No disrespect to Kyle Walker. He’s an amazing RB. But Trent is special and if you build a team around him, you are definitely getting results. RB position has evolved and Trent is very similar to world class full backs such as Cafu, Roberto Carlos and Marcelo. Every right back is being compared to Trent and he is the benchmark. So he has to be easily in starting 11.
Kyle walker is mad over rated. He runs fast yeah sure but he also gets beat by top wingers all the time. City have possession 70% of the game and he gets like 2 assists a season. I really don’t get it plus he’s a piece of shit who had two kids outside of his marriage in which he already has kids with his wife. Buddys a clown.
Rory saying it’s not based on form Also Rory: ‘KDB hasn’t played all season’ Completely discounting the fact he has been the best footballer in the world for years
Kyle Walker has not been better than Trent this year. He’s been burnt a lot of times this year and doesn’t add much to the attack. Trent has literally won games for Liverpool this year
I couldn’t believe when they said he’s been the best player for city so far. He’s been awful up until maybe the Club World Cup. And he has said the Bayern Munich move was bc of personal reasons.
Tbh if reece James could stay fit I would pick him ahead of Trent just cuz he has good attacking and defensive output Trent had his moments of quality but he's not great against attacking sides or even counter attacking sides unless he has someone double up with him One on one against a good dribbler he gets eaten every time Walker has had his issues this season but we all know how good he is when he's focused He's not the best attack wise but he does his job better than most when focused I just think the quality of right backs rn aint that great It mostly depends on what you want, I'd rather go for a defender who can defend and moderately attack
@@BiggestBirdonMars I think if you have those cb, Alisson, Rodri ect. You don't have to worry so much about defendong so you pick the best footballer and that is Trent. Even if James was fit.
@@BiggestBirdonMarsJames only performs as well as he does because he’s had a 5 back system most of his career so far lmao Tuchel tried a back 4 with Chelsea and James was exposed in those games and the same happens when he starts for England with a back 4… quality player but he’s not proven himself to be capable outside the extra defensive support he does get
@@BiggestBirdonMars "I just think the quality of right backs rn aint that great" Exposed yourself for having no football knowledge there lad. Trent, Walker & (fit) James could arguably walk into any team in the world.
Pepe Reina was a phenomenal keeper. Stop talking crap Rory. Just to clarify, I'm not putting him in any top 10 keepers list, I'm not crazy, but was a very very good GK.
Agreed! But I can't see how there's no mention of Ray Clemence as Liverpool's greatest keeper of all time. The age of these guys must definitely be a factor! Lol
@@bigfatdiabeetus7962 As a sub topic they went onto to talk about Liverpool's best goal keeper of all time referencing Grobellar along the way. As you know, Grobellar was Pre Prem era! In this context Ray Clemence must be mentioned!
Im a Liverpool fan but rory tryna say no KDB is unbelievable 🤣🤣 they were saying this isnt about this season only and that was rorys only reason for bernardo to be in
Right. And all the folks talking about him getting caught out defensively so much last season aren't thinking. Our midfield was tragic, moving Trent up was to help with that, but when they would turn the ball over, he'd be caught out. There's a reason with a much better midfield he started this season much better...
Reina- 50 clean sheets in 92 league games, 3 consecutive golden gloves, highest clean sheet ratio in premier league history not bad for a terrible goalkeeper
They were doing it based on cumulative play over the 23’ calendar year to now. KDB has only started 1 of City’s 20 league games this season + was injured in the UCL final. Despite his greatness, it’s understandable to be comprehensive abt putting him in considering he only played half of last year.
Know its not the point but Reina was a class goalkeeper. Won 3 golden gloves despite Liverpool never having a truly world class defender while he was there
Rory is pure mental. Leaving KDB out shows he knows NO ball! Van Dijk was out for 9 months, was terrible the season after and is now back to pretty much top standard, but he was a certainty according to Rory..
This is the issue with footballing narratives cause it makes people forget simple facts. What u mean to say is Van dijk was out for 9 months, was the best cb in the world the season after, and then had a poor season. That season in the middle is completely forgotten when he played the most minutes of any outfield player in world football and made all the best XI teams. But because of the narrative that his injury ruined his career was so overused last season people have omitted an entire year of him being the best cb in the world
van dijk wasnt terrible. this narrative is bs. he was liverpools best defender but had to deal with the terrible midfield and a constantly changing partner.
the narrative on VVD is BS...VVD was out for 9 months, then came back 21/22 and almost won a treble, actually won 2 trophies, then had a below pre-season most center halves would be proud of and now back to being the very best...thanks
Rory refuses to listen to buveys argument about De bruyne doing what he’s done in the past 5 years, and then uses the argument for Declan Rice saying what he did for West Ham and made himself indispensable for Arsenal, De Bruyne came back for one game and showed he’s still at the level he was when he left, therefore he’s in the team simple as
Conor Bradley has 3 assists in 3 games. Reece James has 2 assists in his last 30 games. Trent is head and shoulders above every right back in the world
@@daniyalwaliaziz6500 Walker, this season walkers attacking stats such as his accurate crosses has gone up, trent is improving defenceivly and walker Offensively but Walker is the best Rb trent is a inverted player not a fallback, when you look at walker I can't think of anyone who would get the best off walker on form, I Can think off multiple that could get the best of trent
Trent this season doesn’t invert as much this full he’s playing out of position, football isn’t just every RB plays in the same spaces he has a different role
Rory is absolutely desperate for KDB’s legacy not to overtake Lampard’s in everyone’s eyes, as the best attacking centre mid the league has seen. Which he already has. Goblin.
All this video has proven is how much the league has fallen off. You've got Grealish, Diaz and Martinelli as choices for LW who all stink, no RW arguments because Salah is so clear of everyone, Shaw vs Robertson for a LB debate when both have barely played this season and Haaland being the only world class striker in the entire league. Imagine doing this 15 years ago there would be 5 choices minimum for every position.
Despite this, I feel that all three midfielders today of Rodri Silva and KDB make the PL 11 over the last 10 or so years funnily enough. But yeah the standards generally have gone down massively otherwise
Baffles my mind, how you can not pick KDB, when he's in the discussion for the best Prem midlfielder of all-time. And on top of that, Rory's main argument is that he was injured for 6 months. Unreal.
I know kyle walker is a great right back, but he prevents city from being even more unstoppable moving up the pitch. Pep would take trent in a heartbeat...
Whenever talk shows say Walker over Trent it feels like they're trying to be edgey. Trent has been the best right back in the premier league for like 5 seasons already.
bro trent can't even defend against the big boys (the mbappes, alphonso davies, vinicious jr of this world). attacking-wise he's far superior though. that guy to me is a midfielder. he gets away with bad defending because he plays for one of the best teams if not the best.
Yes, going forward. But bradley is better than him defensively. Trent is a right midfielder, who can't play in midfield. So he plays RB. You can't compare him to other RBs.
@@sharingiscaring1952I’d disagree to a certain extent, he can most definitely play in midfield and it’s something he will get better at the more he plays there, he’s been excellent in there this season. But yes it’s very hard to compare him with other right backs as his defending isn’t as good as it should be.
How can anyone argue with KDB? It’s not like he’s always injured, it was a nasty injury from which he has recovered from. Most seasons he plays 40-50 games a season, gets 15 goals and assists a season and passes the ball like no other.
The best part is when Buvey used Rory's Robertson logic for De Bryune and Rory's brain started malfunctioning. Saying Pepe Reina is terrible is a horrific take. Didn't he win the Golden Glove a couple of times against peak Van Der Saar, Cech etc. He is an absolute weapon and I have no idea how he has such a large platform. Says everything about social media.
I’m a Liverpool fan but I’d have Ake at left back. He was so good last season. Pep’s put him as left centerback this season but he’s better as left back
I think walker is brilliant and is arguably in an all time 11 in the prem. But since trent has started playing for liverpool i cant think of a year when walker has been better
Alisson - nailed on Trent - nailed on Dias/Stones VVD - nailed on Robertson??? Shaw??? Ake??? 🫣 Rodri - nailed on KDB - nailed on Silva/Odergaard Salah - nailed on Haaland - nailed on Son - nailed on
I think the Kdb thing could of been solved by telling Rory they r fighting robots, who do you choose That was the video set up and it makes sense As we can easily see from the extensive history he has that on his day kdb is the best prem player and an all time legend so obviously if you have to save the planet you choose a man that has a history of being better than everyone around him Edit: they told him, he didn’t listen
Walker didn’t need a new challenge he cheated on his wife and got his side bird pregnant for a second time and was trying to get away until Pep convinced him to stay🤣🤣🤣
I'm not sure how you guys struggled with some of this. KDB is nailed on, and then when you brought up LW, Son became nailed on, rashford isn't in the same league. And saying Pepe Reina was worse than both Chelsea's keepers and calling him bad is beyond wild. In his first season he broke the club record for successive clean sheets, broke Liverpool's clean sheet record in all competitions, and won the golden glove. He then won golden glove in the next two seasons, making a record three in a row, lost out by one goal on his 4th season, then joint won it in his 5th. Like call Cech and other premier league greats better than him, sure, but Reina was easily one of the leagues best keepers in his prime.
Kyle Walker is primarily a defender in a team that routinely has 70-80% of the ball, there is not a chance in hell pep plays him over trent. Why would u? Taa's numbers are insane compared to walker, and its a team that'll have the ball for 8 out of every 10 minutes. Whats the point in having walker there??
The logic at 26:10 was a bit weird. Adam mentions that Rice is included because of receiving two votes, and Rodri has three votes. Subsequently, he realizes there's actually a three-way tie among Rice, KDB, and Silva. Then, Rory states that Buvey chooses KDB over Silva, resulting in KDB's inclusion in the team. Why did Buvey have to make the deciding vote when each person had selected Rodri and two other players, who then tied with two votes each? It basically just ensured that Rice made the team by default, but maybe Rory had it in his mind that Rice was already in the team based on Adam's earlier statement suggesting he was. Rory could just as easily have turned to Adam and said, who are you picking out of Rice and KDB and then Silva would have made the team by default. Or Rory could have picked between Silva and Rice himself and KDB makes the team by default. KDB needed to make the team so I'm not complaining with the result but that was some odd reasoning there.
@@LuE87 I'm not sure what you mean by "letting youtubers after click bait own you". I enjoyed the debates and the video in general and I pretty much agreed with the final XI. I was just pointing out a piece of reasoning that I found a bit odd. Also video was pretty much what I expected it to be based on the title and thumbnail so I'm not sure why you think it's clickbait.
Not a single Spurs fan about has said Udogie is near Ashley Cole. Nor did anyone say Dele would eclipse others records, just that at his age he had better stats, which was fact. Rory's ability to lie whenever it comes to Spurs and the audience are too slow to clock on to made up shit is insane. Son not being a lock for the LW is pure disrespect too. Outside of his first season, the lowest G/A he has in a PL season was last year with 16 and he was injured.
it does make me laugh when fans of rival clubs talk about ur club, like adam saying konate has edged out van dijk this season which is just not true. I love konate and it’s a compliment to compare him with van dijk at all but he’s not been better than van dijk ask any liverpool fan. It’s one of those things where u judge them based off their standards not what they’ve actually done. If salah gets 19 prem goals in a season it’s seen as a bad year and if saka gets 15 it’s a great year so you’ll see people on that scenario say saka had a better year when he didn’t, it’s just ur expectations are different.
so Rory can include Ruben Dias who he has admitted has been poor this season, but can't add Kevin De Bruyne because he has been injured until recently?
Alright, Rory’s Bernardo Silva campaign is getting annoying man. He’s brought up in every single conversation these days. Give it a rest. He’s OBVIOUSLY not as good as KDB. He’s great, fine. But this is just getting stupid now. Shhhhhh about Bernardo Silva mate. Honestly, had to turn it off, don’t even know how the XI turns out, I can’t listen to Rory not conceding on KDB. Gotta leave this topic alone.
Rory: We aren't putting in Udogie because it isn't this season - Robertson has been injured but he's the best over a period of time... We aren't putting in KDB because he's been injured this season - Bernardo has been the best over the last 20 games...🤡
Every time they do these lists, they say "it's about ability, not form" and then immediately start talking about "they've not been great this/last season" 🤦🏾♂️😂
@@0xmoo I put them as who are definitely worthy of it, depending on personal preference people have different opinions but I wouldn’t be mad at any of those options.
@@Niz96 I’d agree but, it says there all stars and they just can’t put the criteria on it. If they mean this season then sure kdb gets left off then. But overall I would much rather take the ones I listed.
Buvey was for once the only one who made some sense. Rory omitting KDB in midfield and Adam saying Rashford is better than Son. Totally deranged takes.
yea, but him omitting van dijk was terrible tbf
Bucey saying it’s over 5 years but not wanting Vvd?
@@liamhackett7223 yea it’s weird, he’s down to earth kind of guy usually, I like his takes most of the time but then out of nowhere, sometimes it’s like he has a City agenda to push idk 🤷🏻♂️
@@Zoltar02 yeah he’s the best out of a terrible bunch of city fans tbf
@@liamhackett7223 yea deffo mate
Rory’s agenda against de bruyne is actually embarrassing
And his agenda against Trent
“Do you think Paul pogba is a better footballer than de Bruyne”
@@boltonwandererscluboffootb4615tbf he was right, he predicted that Trent was weak defensively and everybody laughed at him, and then he was proved right with Trent sending Liverpool to Europa league
@@Deathmare235he is
@@GrizZLyGuy sarcasm?
Saying Pepe Reina was a terrible keeper is an all timer Rory shout, it's up there with Haaland being 'disrespectful to the establishment'
Pepe Reina won the PL golden glove in his first, second and third season in the league - in a league with Cech, Van der Sar, Lehman
Fastest PL keeper to reach 100 clean sheets
He was also sort of ahead of his time in terms of playing out from the back and being good with his feet
Knocked Chelsea out of the CL semi in 07 - Rory still bitter .
absolutely terrible take by Rory. sure he made some big timee errors but he was class.
In most clean sheet in football history he’s in the top 5 too lol
I’m a Liverpool fan and FOR ONCE unfortunately I agree with one of Rory’s statements! He actually wasn’t a good keeper! He was one of the first to be good with his feet and turn over player! As a keep he was not that good
He was fantastic in his first 3-4 seasons, he was on a downward trajectory by the time he left though and wasn't as good as he was when he first came in.
Rory's non-existent football knowledge will never cease to amaze me.
It's not non-existent. It's just that he is confidently incorrect far too often.
And him always saying we can explore other options, but that’s just the answer. As if everything he says is fact.
When he said de bruyne doesn’t make this team 😭
I’ve never seen someone so stupid speak with so much authority. He’s wrong all the time but rubs his chin and speaks like the messiah. He’s an absolute tool. This doesn’t just apply to his football knowledge either, when you hear him speak about pretty much any subject you realise that he’s just thick.
Been out for 6 months out the 12 is a valid point but KDB is top 3 all time prem mids. Be like trying to debate Salah who's the best winger in prem history. Sometimes people have just hit levels where you just can't even debate not having them in and when your in this debate and also the all time prem XI it's non negotiable.
Rory with an absolute mare over KDB. KDB will go down as an all time premier league great probably top 5 midfielder ever, and im a liverpool fan. Of course hes in, how hes managed to turn it into a 10 minute debate and pick Rice over him is embarrassing lmao.
He is currently the best midfielder in epl history, in football history he is up there with xavi, iniesta, Zidane and modric, if he played for Barcelona or real Madrid he would have been the best midfielder in history
@@fathialjack2009Too far
@@fathialjack2009facts. People don’t accept it because he is at City. Simple as that.
@@fathialjack2009 I mean you're not wrong, if he was making those passes in a real madrid shirt ppl would comfortably be putting him in that bracket. He 100% should be in that debate.
He really isn’t.
What a HOWLER from Adam. Rashford is a better footballer than HEUNG MIN SON?!?!?!?
He really thinks Rashford is something that he just isn’t. It’s like an illness at this point.
Couldn't even lace son's boots.
He isn't better than Son, but let's be real here, he's better than Diaz, Martinelli and Grealish, you can't just shit on a player who had 30 goals and 11 assists like season just because his team this year is infinitely worse
He is a special player ability wise, and I really don't think he was as bad as people say this season
@@ionuttrif8378no you can cause rashford is a form, usually last season is relevant to a player’s performance especially if they’re injured but for rashford it doesn’t matter since he can be great last season but awful like now
@@Deathmare235 and Son was awful last Season, whats your point?
Rory has lost his mind. They said at the start if they’re picking an 11 to go play aliens or like space jam. Then De Bruyne is arguably the first name on the team sheet alongside Alisson, Salah and Haaland
Rodri as well right?
And van dijk
@@emilevangheem6165 Rodri over rice definitely but there’s a small conversation to be had there, but yeah rodri would be next in line
@@SHW201 I’m a Liverpool fan and I’d say VVD is 6th on the list, after the 4 mentioned and rodri. It’s down to his dip in form last season but the competition at CB is still high, but VVD is still the best in the world
@@adeelarmhead9469there is no conversation to be had. Rodri is light years clear of Rice. Not to say Rice isn’t good, he’s decent, but he ain’t close to Rodris level
Is Buvey actually being the most reasonable person on this? Reina was a class keeper.
That whole KDB thing was kind of wild with them each making a difference case for what they are basing picks on, showing thier agenda's. Rory just wanted to get Bernardo in because his the worlds biggest Bernando Silva fanboy, so was trying to restrict it to form in the last few months. Adam was trying to eliminate any mention of form being relevant to try and justify his later pick of Rashford. Buvey being reasonable and saying its over the year. You can't pick people that have played 6 games all year, but if someone has been insane for 6 months and injured the rest, that doesn't entirely discount them.
Actually bernando silva should be included in the place of rice , rodri, silva, debrune, that's the best midfield in the world in the last four years
TBF to Buvey when he's not trying to wind people up he's actually very resonable. Certainly compared to the other two at times
Reina wasn't class.
He was a good goalkeeper sure. Not class tho.
He made me extremely nervous. Never 100% commanded the box. Would have a slip up every two games.
He was one of the best Penalty Kick savers tho. Had some excellent reflexes too and decent distribution.
A class GK is a player that puts your mind at ease 90% of games.
He just doesn't fit that category.
@@jasonhughes6896 No, Reina was class, but you're biggest faux pas here is "decent distribution"...
@@chrispalmer7893 I disagree man, I don't think he was class at all. I always felt he looked really nervous when it came to collecting crosses and commanding his box. Good player sure but wasn't world class by any stretch.
24:34 Rory’s groan when he realizes his logic is non-existent
I was laughing at that🤣 Buvey's made him look like a mug
The hell is Rashford doing there 😂😂😂
He is gonna kick start the afterparty 😂😂
No Son on the left is shocking
Rashford better than son 😂 😂 😂
@@ledangkhoa3108 are you out of your mind? He’s the best finisher of the ball in the league.
He has apple and wants to go into the club 😂
Rory’s point on Silva and De Bruyne was so petty. Obviously De Bruyne goes into the current best Premier League XI
He even walks in the all time one
Rory's KDB rant was painful
I think its his all time worst take. They started the video by saying its not about form and he turns it into a last 12 month convo. Rory just killed me in this one. Tough to listen to
Surprised there was such an argument for Bernardo vs KDB instead of Bernardo vs Rice. Could easily just plug City's entire midfield into the team and it would be the best midfield. Rodri, Bernardo, KDB.
I’m actually annoyed that rice was even in it. Realllly? Like over city’s wtf
As much as I think Declan Rice is phenomenal, the correct answer is easily Rodri, Silva, KDB...it should barely even be a debate
You forget City wanted Rice last summer - they'd already be clear at the top by now if he went there instead of Arsenal
@@Bradclartlmao we wanted him to be a backup for rodri thats it
@@Bradclartlol city also wanted Maguire doesn’t mean he’s the best CB around 🤣🤣
It’s funny the excuse for Dias was he had no midfield for a couple weeks. But not taken into account for VVD last season when he had Henderson Fabinho and Milner infront of him with no legs 🤣
Init 😂
Rory : you can’t put udogie because it’s played this season.
Also Rory: you can’t put de bruyne cos he’s not played this season
No disrespect to Kyle Walker. He’s an amazing RB. But Trent is special and if you build a team around him, you are definitely getting results.
RB position has evolved and Trent is very similar to world class full backs such as Cafu, Roberto Carlos and Marcelo.
Every right back is being compared to Trent and he is the benchmark. So he has to be easily in starting 11.
Kyle walker is mad over rated. He runs fast yeah sure but he also gets beat by top wingers all the time. City have possession 70% of the game and he gets like 2 assists a season. I really don’t get it plus he’s a piece of shit who had two kids outside of his marriage in which he already has kids with his wife. Buddys a clown.
Calling Pepe Reina terrible is crazy, 3 golden gloves and the first to win the golden glove back to back, he was world class for 5 years.
you called dias terrible in these comments
@@fqq4137 because he is, he’s been terrible this season.
@@NLGNATHAN Dias is the best CB in the world for the last 3 years
@@CR7_THEGOAT777he really isn’t lol
@@havz9080 yes he has been. Get over it
KDB not going in that 11 is criminal - from a Liverpool fan. Walks in any 11 blindfolded
Rory not included KDB is shocking
He is an idiot it’s simple
Rory saying it’s not based on form
Also Rory: ‘KDB hasn’t played all season’
Completely discounting the fact he has been the best footballer in the world for years
How many balon dor
Kyle Walker has not been better than Trent this year. He’s been burnt a lot of times this year and doesn’t add much to the attack. Trent has literally won games for Liverpool this year
I couldn’t believe when they said he’s been the best player for city so far. He’s been awful up until maybe the Club World Cup. And he has said the Bayern Munich move was bc of personal reasons.
Tbh if reece James could stay fit I would pick him ahead of Trent just cuz he has good attacking and defensive output
Trent had his moments of quality but he's not great against attacking sides or even counter attacking sides unless he has someone double up with him
One on one against a good dribbler he gets eaten every time
Walker has had his issues this season but we all know how good he is when he's focused
He's not the best attack wise but he does his job better than most when focused
I just think the quality of right backs rn aint that great
It mostly depends on what you want, I'd rather go for a defender who can defend and moderately attack
@@BiggestBirdonMars I think if you have those cb, Alisson, Rodri ect. You don't have to worry so much about defendong so you pick the best footballer and that is Trent. Even if James was fit.
@@BiggestBirdonMarsJames only performs as well as he does because he’s had a 5 back system most of his career so far lmao Tuchel tried a back 4 with Chelsea and James was exposed in those games and the same happens when he starts for England with a back 4… quality player but he’s not proven himself to be capable outside the extra defensive support he does get
@@BiggestBirdonMars "I just think the quality of right backs rn aint that great"
Exposed yourself for having no football knowledge there lad. Trent, Walker & (fit) James could arguably walk into any team in the world.
Pepe Reina was a phenomenal keeper. Stop talking crap Rory. Just to clarify, I'm not putting him in any top 10 keepers list, I'm not crazy, but was a very very good GK.
Agreed! But I can't see how there's no mention of Ray Clemence as Liverpool's greatest keeper of all time. The age of these guys must definitely be a factor! Lol
In addition to being super unlucky to having competition from Víctor Valdés and Iker Casillas ahead of him for the Spains #1 GK
@@MDQC71 They did specify prem era tbf so Clemence wouldn't be eligible
@@bigfatdiabeetus7962 As a sub topic they went onto to talk about Liverpool's best goal keeper of all time referencing Grobellar along the way. As you know, Grobellar was Pre Prem era!
In this context Ray Clemence must be mentioned!
*is
The guy still plays
Im a Liverpool fan but rory tryna say no KDB is unbelievable 🤣🤣 they were saying this isnt about this season only and that was rorys only reason for bernardo to be in
Rory's face and sigh at 24:34 is the realisation that his illogical argument has crumbled infront of him.
Gained a lot of respect for mckola with that Trent take
Imagine thinking Trent is inverting into midfield because he's a bad right back, my God
Right. And all the folks talking about him getting caught out defensively so much last season aren't thinking. Our midfield was tragic, moving Trent up was to help with that, but when they would turn the ball over, he'd be caught out. There's a reason with a much better midfield he started this season much better...
Leaving Trent out is hilarious
Reina- 50 clean sheets in 92 league games, 3 consecutive golden gloves, highest clean sheet ratio in premier league history not bad for a terrible goalkeeper
And yet you guys wonder why people don't think you have ball knowledge. Leaving KDB out of a premier league XI is unforgivable
They didn’t leave KDB out tho
@@Clang2023 One of them tried to though
How Rory has a career out of spouting absoloute shite is unbelievable. He's a beacon of hope to anyone who wants to do youtube.
They were doing it based on cumulative play over the 23’ calendar year to now. KDB has only started 1 of City’s 20 league games this season + was injured in the UCL final.
Despite his greatness, it’s understandable to be comprehensive abt putting him in considering he only played half of last year.
@aperson5770 agreed it is comprehensible definitely, but Rory starts going at Buevy and being a bit of a prat about it
Buvey as the voice of reason is Crazyyyy😂😭
PEPE REINA WON 3 GOLDEN GLOVES IN A ROW! IM AN ARSENAL FAN AND REMEMBER HOW GOOD HE WAS
Pepe Reina sitting here with his 3 golden gloves on the bounce 😭
Rory criticizing Adam and Buvey for not demonstrating logic when he included Kante in an all-time premier 11. The boy is a complete joker
Rory is delusional when he talks about KDB 😂 he just loves Bernardo more because he’s a diminutive person like himself
Rashford didn’t even complecomplete 100 goals for united with same amount of match as Son played.
Rory genuinely doesn’t understand football, sat there in his dads shirt
Know its not the point but Reina was a class goalkeeper. Won 3 golden gloves despite Liverpool never having a truly world class defender while he was there
Great with penalties too
You should do All-Time Retirement XI - the best premier league players at the point they retired from from football
You are irelivent
I think I’ve got the idea of this suggestion. Do you mean if you retired a great like Van Der Sar compared to Schmeichel retiring at City?
Did they have to have retired in the premier league or played there at point of their career?
Pepe Reina won 3 golden gloves on the bounce in the era when Cech and VDS were in their prime. Rory once again showing how little he knows
Rory is pure mental. Leaving KDB out shows he knows NO ball! Van Dijk was out for 9 months, was terrible the season after and is now back to pretty much top standard, but he was a certainty according to Rory..
This is the issue with footballing narratives cause it makes people forget simple facts. What u mean to say is Van dijk was out for 9 months, was the best cb in the world the season after, and then had a poor season. That season in the middle is completely forgotten when he played the most minutes of any outfield player in world football and made all the best XI teams. But because of the narrative that his injury ruined his career was so overused last season people have omitted an entire year of him being the best cb in the world
He wasn't terrible the season after it was 2 seasons after but I get your point anyway
van dijk wasnt terrible. this narrative is bs. he was liverpools best defender but had to deal with the terrible midfield and a constantly changing partner.
the narrative on VVD is BS...VVD was out for 9 months, then came back 21/22 and almost won a treble, actually won 2 trophies, then had a below pre-season most center halves would be proud of and now back to being the very best...thanks
@@harveythatguy2757no
Rory refuses to listen to buveys argument about De bruyne doing what he’s done in the past 5 years, and then uses the argument for Declan Rice saying what he did for West Ham and made himself indispensable for Arsenal, De Bruyne came back for one game and showed he’s still at the level he was when he left, therefore he’s in the team simple as
Rory might need to call it a day, prime Reina was not a "terrible keeper" hed easily be top 10 keeper in the world if he was in his prime right now
Conor Bradley has 3 assists in 3 games. Reece James has 2 assists in his last 30 games. Trent is head and shoulders above every right back in the world
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just saw a stat that says he's been dribbled past more than any player in the league and the least successful tackles😂😂
Frimpong? Carvajal ?
@@daniyalwaliaziz6500 Walker, this season walkers attacking stats such as his accurate crosses has gone up, trent is improving defenceivly and walker Offensively but Walker is the best Rb trent is a inverted player not a fallback, when you look at walker I can't think of anyone who would get the best off walker on form, I Can think off multiple that could get the best of trent
Arguing against KDB is unhinged
De Bruyne is in. No question
Rory: we’re ignoring injuries
Also Rory: how can you put a player in the team who hasn’t played in the last 6 months??
So they started the video by stating “this isn’t about form” and then Rory decides to completely forget they said that. Shambolic
Rory talks Ballix uses his fancy words to make himself sound right the man’s a complete weapon
Trent this season doesn’t invert as much this full he’s playing out of position, football isn’t just every RB plays in the same spaces he has a different role
Adam saying Rashford is better than Son is worse than any of Rory’s takes ever
Rory is absolutely desperate for KDB’s legacy not to overtake Lampard’s in everyone’s eyes, as the best attacking centre mid the league has seen. Which he already has.
Goblin.
No KDB is just pure banter
All this video has proven is how much the league has fallen off.
You've got Grealish, Diaz and Martinelli as choices for LW who all stink, no RW arguments because Salah is so clear of everyone, Shaw vs Robertson for a LB debate when both have barely played this season and Haaland being the only world class striker in the entire league.
Imagine doing this 15 years ago there would be 5 choices minimum for every position.
Football is getting worse on a global level don't care what anyone says
@@thelegendthatischelsthen go pro if the levels are getting lower
This.
Diaz most certainly does not stink are you crazy
Despite this, I feel that all three midfielders today of Rodri Silva and KDB make the PL 11 over the last 10 or so years funnily enough.
But yeah the standards generally have gone down massively otherwise
Baffles my mind, how you can not pick KDB, when he's in the discussion for the best Prem midlfielder of all-time. And on top of that, Rory's main argument is that he was injured for 6 months. Unreal.
Rory’s hate on de Bruyne is actually irritating atp Bernardo wouldn’t say he’s better than de Bruyne 💀
They always say, "not the players in form now"... but then do it anyway 😂
I know kyle walker is a great right back, but he prevents city from being even more unstoppable moving up the pitch. Pep would take trent in a heartbeat...
Whenever talk shows say Walker over Trent it feels like they're trying to be edgey. Trent has been the best right back in the premier league for like 5 seasons already.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
bro trent can't even defend against the big boys (the mbappes, alphonso davies, vinicious jr of this world). attacking-wise he's far superior though. that guy to me is a midfielder. he gets away with bad defending because he plays for one of the best teams if not the best.
@@LettucePlatehow would you rate him last year, out of interest?
@@ndumisomapheleba1791 Trent stopped Ronaldo in the 2018 champions league final... None of the goals came from his side...
Dias in and NO Saliba is nuts!!!!
trent easily beats walker now. he is so clear of him its insane.
Yes, going forward. But bradley is better than him defensively. Trent is a right midfielder, who can't play in midfield. So he plays RB. You can't compare him to other RBs.
Dont write bullshits.
@@sharingiscaring1952I’d disagree to a certain extent, he can most definitely play in midfield and it’s something he will get better at the more he plays there, he’s been excellent in there this season. But yes it’s very hard to compare him with other right backs as his defending isn’t as good as it should be.
Depends if you sant a defender who can defend its obviously walker. If you want an inverted fullback its Trent.
@@ianhall3945 the statement that trent cant defend is overblown und just not true. look at the stats and they will show you exactly that.
How can anyone argue with KDB? It’s not like he’s always injured, it was a nasty injury from which he has recovered from. Most seasons he plays 40-50 games a season, gets 15 goals and assists a season and passes the ball like no other.
This should be the objective team:
Alisson
Trent
Van Dijk
Ferdinand
Cole
Keane
Gerrard
De Bruyne
Ronaldo
Henry
Hazard
Hazard? Come on bro your trolling, salah is clear
It's current players only
You're a LFC fan I'm guessing 🤣
Tell me you're a liverpool fan without telling me you're a liverpool fan 😂
Ya lets just shoehorn Salah in at Lw where he didnt play. Hes not getting Rw over Ronaldo@@drewidz5909
The best part is when Buvey used Rory's Robertson logic for De Bryune and Rory's brain started malfunctioning. Saying Pepe Reina is terrible is a horrific take. Didn't he win the Golden Glove a couple of times against peak Van Der Saar, Cech etc. He is an absolute weapon and I have no idea how he has such a large platform. Says everything about social media.
Rory trying to leave KDB out of the team🤣
starts out with “Best of the best, no injuries”, proceeds to say that KDB can’t get in for being injured 🤣🤣🤣
I’m a Liverpool fan but I’d have Ake at left back. He was so good last season. Pep’s put him as left centerback this season but he’s better as left back
If we are considering the past 18 to 20 months then 100% Ake it is.
Alisson, Trent, Van Dijk, Saliba, Udogie, Rodri, Rice, KDB, Salah, Haaland, Son
I think walker is brilliant and is arguably in an all time 11 in the prem. But since trent has started playing for liverpool i cant think of a year when walker has been better
Last year, treble winner? Pocketed vini and sane two of the hardest to face wingers
We all have our delusions.
@bluemoon1716 me: makes a valid point. You: can't explain how I'm wrong, just says a football buzzword with no reasoning
@oliverbell8326 from what I remember he def didn't pocket sane. Sane got in a lot but he just missed multiple sitters
A treble win is a testament of the whole team and squad. You cant just say hes a better individual cause of a treble. Thats not how it works
Let's do the best 11 in the league currently. "De Bruyne doesn't make it because he's been injured"
If it’s over the last year then it’s, Allison, trippier, van dijk, Saliba, Robertson, Rodri, de bruyne, odegaard, Salah, Haaland, son
Shaw was way better than Robertson over the last year
@@erwanntowa7832sure buddy, go to bed
@@Zoltar02 😭😭😭ppl don’t watch football anymore these days. What did Robertson do last year
Shaw was apart of the best back line last season and won a trophy and finished third in the prem
what has shaw done over the last 5 years? Nothing? @@erwanntowa7832
Allison
Walker - Dias - Van Dijk - Robertson
De Bruyne - Rodri - B. Silva
Salah Haaland Son
Jordan Pickford?😂😂 he’s Englands 4th best keeper why’s no big team gone for him
He starts for england
He’s England’s first choice and is a very decent keeper
@@oufc90 camera merchant. Terrible keeper
Alison
Trent
Saliba
Virgil
Robertson
Rodri
KDB
Silva
Salah
Haaland
Son
The only right answer
The only correct one.
Alisson - nailed on
Trent - nailed on
Dias/Stones
VVD - nailed on
Robertson??? Shaw??? Ake??? 🫣
Rodri - nailed on
KDB - nailed on
Silva/Odergaard
Salah - nailed on
Haaland - nailed on
Son - nailed on
Yea I’d agree with that
If this is about overall form and not this season, how can it not be Robertson .. the guy has been absolute class for years, defending and attacking.
@@benlane7282 because he seems to be declining right now. I love Robo, I’m a Liverpool fan but he isn’t what he was.
Trent is absolutely NOT nailed on. At all. Ridiculous
@@CR7_THEGOAT777 absolutely is. Nobody else comes close
GK - Allison
RB - Walker
CB - Dias
CB - VVD
LB - Robertson
CDM - Rodri
CM - B. Silva
CM - KDB
RW - Salah
ST - Haaland
LW - Son
(S/O - McGinn, Trent & Maddison)
I think the Kdb thing could of been solved by telling Rory they r fighting robots, who do you choose
That was the video set up and it makes sense
As we can easily see from the extensive history he has that on his day kdb is the best prem player and an all time legend so obviously if you have to save the planet you choose a man that has a history of being better than everyone around him
Edit: they told him, he didn’t listen
24:24 the moment Rory realized he's not been paying attention
Walker didn’t need a new challenge he cheated on his wife and got his side bird pregnant for a second time and was trying to get away until Pep convinced him to stay🤣🤣🤣
I'm not sure how you guys struggled with some of this. KDB is nailed on, and then when you brought up LW, Son became nailed on, rashford isn't in the same league.
And saying Pepe Reina was worse than both Chelsea's keepers and calling him bad is beyond wild. In his first season he broke the club record for successive clean sheets, broke Liverpool's clean sheet record in all competitions, and won the golden glove. He then won golden glove in the next two seasons, making a record three in a row, lost out by one goal on his 4th season, then joint won it in his 5th.
Like call Cech and other premier league greats better than him, sure, but Reina was easily one of the leagues best keepers in his prime.
Rory arguing to not include the best player in the whole league is quite something.
“Best 11 current players not just this season, de Bruyne can’t be in cuz he was injured this season”
As a Liverpool fan, I’m 100% putting in Rodri, De Bruyne AND Bernardo Silva. Rice isn’t better than any of those 3, no doubt in my mind.
SOMETIMES RORY REALLY DOES COME ACROSS LIKE A RIGHT PLONKKER. NO PL 11 WITHOUT KDB? REGARDLESS WETHER HIS BEEN INJURED HIS STILL THE BEST.
What on earth does everyone see in Rice that I don't? It feels like a worldwide collective gaslighting effort, I'm going insane here! 😂
I don’t get it, he’s bang average every game, and doesn’t touch the top 5 midfielders in the league, it’s ridiculous
The 2 of you are blind
Kyle Walker is primarily a defender in a team that routinely has 70-80% of the ball, there is not a chance in hell pep plays him over trent. Why would u? Taa's numbers are insane compared to walker, and its a team that'll have the ball for 8 out of every 10 minutes. Whats the point in having walker there??
You know it’s bad when Buvey is the only one talking sense
The logic at 26:10 was a bit weird. Adam mentions that Rice is included because of receiving two votes, and Rodri has three votes. Subsequently, he realizes there's actually a three-way tie among Rice, KDB, and Silva. Then, Rory states that Buvey chooses KDB over Silva, resulting in KDB's inclusion in the team. Why did Buvey have to make the deciding vote when each person had selected Rodri and two other players, who then tied with two votes each? It basically just ensured that Rice made the team by default, but maybe Rory had it in his mind that Rice was already in the team based on Adam's earlier statement suggesting he was.
Rory could just as easily have turned to Adam and said, who are you picking out of Rice and KDB and then Silva would have made the team by default. Or Rory could have picked between Silva and Rice himself and KDB makes the team by default. KDB needed to make the team so I'm not complaining with the result but that was some odd reasoning there.
@@LuE87 I'm not sure what you mean by "letting youtubers after click bait own you". I enjoyed the debates and the video in general and I pretty much agreed with the final XI. I was just pointing out a piece of reasoning that I found a bit odd. Also video was pretty much what I expected it to be based on the title and thumbnail so I'm not sure why you think it's clickbait.
Not a single Spurs fan about has said Udogie is near Ashley Cole. Nor did anyone say Dele would eclipse others records, just that at his age he had better stats, which was fact.
Rory's ability to lie whenever it comes to Spurs and the audience are too slow to clock on to made up shit is insane.
Son not being a lock for the LW is pure disrespect too. Outside of his first season, the lowest G/A he has in a PL season was last year with 16 and he was injured.
You know things are bad when Buvey is the most logical of the three
Every video it changes between the 3😂
it does make me laugh when fans of rival clubs talk about ur club, like adam saying konate has edged out van dijk this season which is just not true. I love konate and it’s a compliment to compare him with van dijk at all but he’s not been better than van dijk ask any liverpool fan. It’s one of those things where u judge them based off their standards not what they’ve actually done. If salah gets 19 prem goals in a season it’s seen as a bad year and if saka gets 15 it’s a great year so you’ll see people on that scenario say saka had a better year when he didn’t, it’s just ur expectations are different.
so Rory can include Ruben Dias who he has admitted has been poor this season, but can't add Kevin De Bruyne because he has been injured until recently?
23:30 Adam’s face when he realized how stupid Rory’s take sounds😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
wtf happened to the current form is irrelevant premise??? De Bruyne is in whether he's been out most the season or whether he has one leg
Not putting de bruyne in is an absolute disgraceful
Rory moving the goal posts like a madman over KDB.
Alright, Rory’s Bernardo Silva campaign is getting annoying man. He’s brought up in every single conversation these days. Give it a rest. He’s OBVIOUSLY not as good as KDB. He’s great, fine. But this is just getting stupid now. Shhhhhh about Bernardo Silva mate. Honestly, had to turn it off, don’t even know how the XI turns out, I can’t listen to Rory not conceding on KDB. Gotta leave this topic alone.
28:04 Hueng min son
29:27 Final All stars Premier League XI
Rory: We aren't putting in Udogie because it isn't this season - Robertson has been injured but he's the best over a period of time... We aren't putting in KDB because he's been injured this season - Bernardo has been the best over the last 20 games...🤡
Every time they do these lists, they say "it's about ability, not form" and then immediately start talking about "they've not been great this/last season" 🤦🏾♂️😂
Allison - walker, Saliba, Konate, Trippier - Rodri, Odegaard, KDB - Son, Haaland, Salah
Honestly think this is a widely accepted 11 imo
Son Halland Salah
Kdb Rodri Bernardo/rice
Robertson diaz Saliba/vdk Walker
Allison
You just named 13 players
@@0xmoo I put them as who are definitely worthy of it, depending on personal preference people have different opinions but I wouldn’t be mad at any of those options.
u need Phil Foden in there, he's been Citys best player this season
@@Niz96 I’d agree but, it says there all stars and they just can’t put the criteria on it. If they mean this season then sure kdb gets left off then. But overall I would much rather take the ones I listed.