Terraforming Mars with Neil deGrasse Tyson
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Should we terraform Mars? How would we do it? Why would we do it? Neil deGrasse Tyson and Chuck Nice are here to break down the logistics of putting humans on the Red Planet. You’ll learn why, if we want to warm Mars out of permafrost, it would be a BYOGHG event. You’ll also learn about Elon Musk’s plan to warm up Mars. Chuck ponders the benefits of being a two-planet species. All that, plus, Neil explains why the day we have the power to terraform Mars is the same day we have the power to terraform Earth.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:11 - Habitats on Mars
1:02 - Qualities of Mars
2:53 - Warming Mars
6:41 - Is Mars The Best Planet To Terraform?
7:29 - Focusing on Earth
9:27 - Closing Notes 
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I feel like Chuck has done these so much he's actually starting to learn some things.
I mean, that's the idea, right? I feel like the purpose of Star talk is not to lecture, but to present science in a way that it just rubs on you and you notice you're actually learning while laughing at Neil laughing at Chuck 😅
@@TheMcspreader 😂😂😂
Chuck is learning astrophysics but can't learn how to pronounce the names of the people asking questions 😅
Two black men discussing physics on TV. How cool is THAT ?
😀👍🏻 i know what
U mean
when people talk about terraforming Mars everyone forgets that before you can give Mars an atmosphere you need to make the magnetic field stronger or the sun will just blow it all into space.
Isaac Arthur explains all that and how it can be done but it's more likely favorable to live underground. He also brings up floating cities on Venus and that though very slow Venus is actually easier to terra-form. Even turning the asteroid belt into O'Neill cylinders and starting our Dyson swarm. Because if you can manage a LaGrange Point orbital magnetic field for a planet doing it for a cylinder is a cake walk. Of course all his futurism is centuries ahead mostly though amazingly based on real physics and technologies that are totally feasible. He'll explain warp drive or wormholes but also why they don't likely work out. So you use massive fusion lasers or beam energy from the swarm to the lasers and push ships toward slowing lasers pre-built by Von Neumann probes! Seriously hundreds of great videos and an honestly positive thinker.
Does anyone know the book nemesis by azimov? Could small engines eventually stop the loss of one of the moons, the escaping moon?
A serious look at adding a magnetosphere to Mars. medium.com/our-space/an-artificial-martian-magnetosphere-fd3803ea600c
I think you right Mars need an strong magnetic field and stronger gravity .
Not true. The atmosphere would bleed off over millions of years. If youve already slapped an atmosphere down in a generation or few human life times then this isn't an issue
Mars today still has atmosphere left from when it had a magnetosphere 4 billion years ago. It's a slow process
"Eat a lot of chili" was funny but you got to admire his creativity in finding a solution.
It’s not a solution though…
human should not move to mars because the least humanity could do is terraform mars and leave it exactly like earth so nature could reclaime it as theyre home because the only thing human has done is consume, destroy, waste and consume the true home of the wild life so they can reclaim as theyre new and true home
@@absalon04 yeah human treat planet like a cellphone if you got a money you just trow it away
@@dzakynaufal5007 don’t be human then
It wasn't that funny.
“Welcome to Mars. Here’s a bowl of Chili!”
😂😆😂😆🤣🤣🤣
"Welcome to Mars. Here's your bowl of chili."
That was funny!
a new hashtag?
@Keksi That's not true. I'm Christian and I'd like to see Mars being terraformed. But I'd also like to see politicians accept that global warming exists and that we need to fix the planet we're on before considering other planets.
@Keksi this should be going viral
@Keksi what's funny is a bowl of chilli to terraform Mars has more in common than your argument with just whatever you were talking about. i *could* explain to you why that was the stupidest thing I heard the last week or even month, but I don't like wasting time.
Dumd&...
This guy is like a bigger version of Kevin Hart.
with them eyes and stuff
and smarter, kidding Kevin is a lovely guy.
I was looking for this comment 😆
nah, Carlton Banks.
A 2 year old is a bigger version of Kevin Hart
Love Neil Degrasse. His warmth and humor makes science so much more accessible to the masses.
What you really mean is that peons find him comical. 😅
"Has it occured to anyone that we should take care of this planet?"
The most important question in this video! Thanks Chuck!
In 7 billion years, the Sun will engulf the Earth and it doesn't matter. Eventually, humans will become a multi-planet species or go extinct.
Well no because the sun will eat earth
Yeah but what will be left to conserve if we are hit with a gamma ray burst or some asteroid like the one that resulted in the total annihilation of the dinosaurs.Not just those two but there are a million other threats that can destroy this planet .What do you suggest we do if something like that happens.
@@reddragon771 Oh its simple we will die there is your answer
@@reddragon771 Does it matter if nothing living is there to get killed?
With that argumentation you can save time and effort terraforming any planet, as those also can get hit by whatever.
The destruction here is man made and will continue everwhere else
Neil basically claimed this man's arm for himself...
We shouldn’t Terraform Planets as any life that was adapted to the Environment of the Planet beforehand would be killed because they couldn’t survive in conditions that we could. We could’ve studied the life on that Planet and stuff but then we will it off. We also shouldn’t Terraform Planets because many places on those planets might be flooded and many cool sights that maybe people would wanna see would be flooded and to never be seen again. Also by the time we would have Terraformed a planet, That Planet mostly likely have hundreds of Millions of People Living on it. We could easily live in Contained Habitations and not Terraform the Planet. Terraforming would be useless. The Last Reason I think we shouldn’t Terraform Planets is because low Elevation cities could be flooded. We would have to evacuate possibly millions of people to do that! Ya these are my reasons we shouldn’t Terraform Planets.
Ortherner why did you comment on this comment?
@@justadummy8076 maybe a mistake, he probably meant to type in the comment above, Its more fitting.
Isn't arm-grabbing what almost got him canceled?
LOL
"Hey! We're headed there too!"
XDDDDDDDDDDD
Yeah Greta Thunbergs not talking shit
All evidence of climate change is out of sight.
My beachfront hasnt eroded these past 30 years despite "melting ice caps".
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This was great! The camaraderie was awesome and the questions were inspiring. If anything is human-kind's greatest threat, it's itself. Thanks guys!
“Welcome to Mars. Here is your bowl of chilli” 🤣
😂😂😂
i have detected cringe
Btw the smell 's just the termites...
x CooperTroop x that Emoji ruined the comment
"Help the Ecology!"
Watching these two giggle makes me giggle.
Yes you right especially when you smoking a big old joint
Their chemistry is so infectious! They make it so accessible, that a 5 year old could watch and it would make some sort of sense. I need people like this in my life
Neil is almost like a natural born teacher. Like no teacher I ever had but wish I did.
"Quit hogging all the oxygen!"(in Schwarzenegger voice)Killin me!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Same here 🤣🤣💀
Neil deGrasse Tyson: "I like me some Earth"
Mars IS earth.
Was gonna comment this
Smh Inners...
@ Do you not realize how ignorant you sound?
@@flatstuff1630 Mars could be made Earth-like. Mars is not Earth. Earth IS Earth. Mars IS Mars.
Chuck: *Breathes*
Neil: "AHAHHAHAHAHAHH...STOP IT... AHAHAHAHAHHA".
Well in Neil's defense, chuck is funny as hell!
Neil is very good person, let him laugh.
The joke on eating chilli and farting was funny
Seeing Neil dying laughing was funnier than the jokes tbh
That's the way friends work
From the second I heard of Neil Degrassi Tyson, he has inspired me and kept me fascinated about the cosmos. The way he moves his hands and body when explaining the subject makes me wish I could see the pictures in his head. They would be works of art 🌎🌕💫⭐️☄️
I gave a thumbs' up for the Arnie impression. 👍
Neil: "it rotates, it has seasons, it has polar ice caps"
Dax: "Hey, we have that too!"
Neil: "But its river beds are BONE DRY"
Dax: "AND WE ARE HEADED THERE TOO!!!"
That killed me man, I was not ready for that
whos dax
I mean he's got a point
Hahah i had the same
How are headed there too?
1:43, I clearly understood the joke, pretty hilarious!!!!!
the giggle fest right in the beginning when Neil half lost his sh*t was some of the purest-most-therapy-like moments I've ever needed.
Cringe
T Durden very enlightening, thank you!
That earns a like on any planet.
3:53 He's not wrong.
Start off with co2 and h2o.
Sunlight converts it to sugars (C6H12O6), animals convert some to mostly co2, but some methane (CH4) as well....leaving some free O2 as a by product of inefficiency.
Back me up Chem and Bio majors. Physic major here. Pretty sure I did the basic stociometry right.
They take very complex subjects and break them down into fun and entertaining content. First time here and I love it. Humor, questions, stories, and visualization - all while giving enough clarity to leave a person feeling confident they retained the information. It is the format I can use to teach younger children! Thank you so much.
Chuck: "That's what I tell my wife.. we have too many termites.. its not me" 🤣🤣🤣
You thought it was the sounds of crickets rubbing their exoskeletons... it were actually teeny tiny termite farts!
*it's*
How can they terraform Mars when the street I live on is still a cratered runway from 1975?!
Jeffrey A. Smith 😂
Exile your city fathers to Mars?
People care about Mars. They don't care about your street. Humans can do almost anything we can imagine if we want to.
What's stopping you from fixing your own fuckin street? People can terraform Mars because they want to. If you wanted your street fixed you can do it. Or you can sit back and wonder why anyone does anything since you do nothing.
everyone stop trying to act smart cause you aren't
Jeffery Was MAKING A JOKE
Thank you Neil and chuck for these educational videos
You guys cheer me up every episode, I've started watching everyday 🙂👊🏾
NdGT: we need to increase the greenhouse gasses in Mars so that water can return!
Humans: "It's like, I was made for this"
😂😂😂 sadly true
Just give me 1M Coals and i will start to terraform mars
That's exactly whst we've done to our planet only the polar ice caps are melting and sea levels are rising.
lets ship some cows over there, we got plenty here :P
did the Kars stone land on Mars?
The Day that we have the Power to Turn Mars into Earth, We will have the Power to turn Earth into Earth - Neil Degrasse Tyson
You always have to take into consideration that if we had a population of humans on Mars for an extended amount of time, if they tried to come back to earth after a year+ they wouldn’t have the bone or muscle strength to walk or do much of anything.
They can do weightlifting.
A question, why would they come back to Earth? That's your new home at that point.
Large rotating habitats. There’s a Japanese architecture firm that figured out a design that is the size of a 20-40 story bldg that looks like a wine glass. The rotating wine glass part is a wider angle on mars than there design for the moon in order to get the resulting gravity to be 1g. Should be wide enough that people, or most people, won’t get sea sick and the forces at peoples heads will be fairly close to what they experience at there feet. If only spend a 10 hour shift every day or every other day out on the surface doing exploration stuff you would not deteriorate as bad.
In the short term they could put up a smaller system that is similar in concept, but maybe does not rotate as fast to get to .6 or .7 g. Or if it is small and moving very fast it might still be doable for 1 g but because the forces on peoples heads and feet would be to different it might make most sense to use for sleeping quarters and stationary exercise equipment where your body is mostly perpendicular to the center of the rotation where your head is not more that a few inches closer to the center.
There is a carnival fair ride called the graviton that rotates fast enough to get to 3g. If you had a similar design on Mars to go from .38 to 1 g it would be rotating much slower and as long as you were laying down and not up walking across the center most people probably would not get supper sea sick.
They could still walk and do things. It'd just be a lot harder for them. It'd be like you doubling your weight overnight for 2 weeks.
Even someone born and raised on Mars could visit and not be miserable with proper training.
I could be wrong though. Too much scifi.
This conversation is so awesome. Love this. Love Neil. His humor, how he explains things so I can learn and understand, and his excitement
Bro this was one of the funniest conversations ive ever seen
👍👍
"When we have the power to turn another planet into Earth, we have the power to turn Earth back into Earth."
I have heard this so many goddamn times.
Yeah, so we need to save Earth first.
Yep
Damn straight. Lets fix up the mess here first, its got to be easier than terraforming Mars.
That is actually not accurate. Earth is pretty much beyond repair already. Stabilizing sure saving. Not so much.
Bullocks. It would be easier to save Earth than to make Mars habitable for humans. It is not even a life friendly planet, the costs would be astronomical. Mine it for resources, sure, no one is there- but Earth is a far more worthwhile investment, it is home.
So easy to listen to Neal, so smart so well spoken !!
Neil:
“Everyone’s talking about terraforming mars
and not Venus”
“Ever wonder why?”
Chuck:
Uhhhhh
Neil:
“Okay here’s why” 🤣🤣
Both planets pose a big challenge but in reverse! Mars has
@@johnmorelli3775 just wait till our technology can transfer those oxygen to Earth and Mars. Our future generations will conquer few planets at the time.
How will they keep the atmosphere from getting swept away without a magnetic field to guard against solar winds?
I think that bombing the poles could actually help reheat the outer core and make it liquid...I think...don’t come at me if I’m wrong lol
NASA says its be possible to create a artificial magnetic sphere, and not completely outside of our technological abilities.
cal dawg
That is brilliant to hear!
@@Mksterk1998 satellites
3.14159265358 put a large electromagnet in a heliocentric orbit that coincides with mars
something elon musk would advertise “we have plenty of chili and beans” 😂😂
This video is awesome. I love Neil’s Dr. Hibbert style giggle.
I absolutely adore these two together
The fact this is even a conversation at this point is so cool
Oh man, you guys are so much fun to watch! And love the way Dr Tyson giggles 😀❤️
7:30
What goes through my head everytime I hear about the plan to move to Mars or finding a "better planet"
Absolutely one of the most entertaining episode I've seen.
Something people don’t seem to get:
The reason people talk about colonizing Mars in response to climate change on Earth is because no one owns Mars.
Yes, it would be technically much harder to terraform Mars than it would be to reverse global warming here on Earth. But there are no POLITICAL barriers to terraforming Mars.
So it’s a commentary on just how irreconcilable our politics are that people are discussing colonization of Mars as a solution to climate change. The engineering challenge on Mars, as difficult and expensive as it would be, seems infinitely more achievable than cutting through political challenges here at home. That’s the reason...and it’s terribly depressing that we’ve reached that point.
GoodWolf yea, and it to mention some new dictator may raise an army on mars at some point and mars may be regarded an enemy. We may have the tech to wipe mars out, but the ethical issues to face will be interesting. But all that is way into the future.
I've been saying for years that, to a large extent, many of our social and political problems are simply due to the fact that earth no longer has any frontier.
In the earliest days of the U.S., if you didn't like the way things were going... you simply packed up and moved west.
Can't do THAT anymore...
But also that if we’re able to terraform another planet it’s a plan B for if any other extinction event happens on earth since even if we can only send bacteria to a terra formed mars it could eventually evolve into new life on another planet given the right circumstances
we also grew up watching star wars and other space related civilizations, so colonizing mars is very appealing to us.
@@bobinthewest8559 True. Hopefully Mars and maybe Floating Venus Cities can give us those opportunities back! 😁👍🏻
His voice is like soft butter being spread on hot cinnamon toast, so smooth. I could listen to It all day.
there are two men talking in this video and you say "his"...
You're cool man
.... you calmed me down.. cuz i love this planet more than anything
man apart from the information, i love when Chuck has Mr Tyson laughing uncontrollably. so wholesome.
Dr Tyson🙂
9:08
Neil predicted Corona, confirmed.
Not surprised! NDT is amazing!
He predicted a virus not corona
Unoriginal
Everybody predicted one except trump
Predicted... or knew....
This is like a science conversation after several strong drinks
Chuck has came so far since collaborating with Neil. I guess its true., you are the company that you keep. Love knowledge and humor ., thank you both....
Always interesting, thank you.
Just finished learning about this for my beginners Astronomy course in college lol. It's so cool to have so many perspectives on the same issue!
I’ve never laughed so hard while learning so much, thanks so much guys.
Interesting talk never saw before. This has enhanced the desire to go to Mars
Not even a minute into the video and we have chuck with an amazing Arnie Total Recall reference and Neil ready to explode from laughter. Damn i love these guys so much!
So fun to watch even for us who have very little knowledge of astronomy. Amazing show 🤗
I could watch these two go all day hahah this was great
now I want chili
I could do without the other guy. Dr Tyson is enough for me.
PV=nRT
How do you calculate for mars surface with it's gravity?
Also it's more about the rate of production and the quantity released in space
By production i obviously mean exchange, release and absorbed
I don't think we can survive without traping the gas
Goodness me these two never fail to get me belly laughing. What a duo.
I love Niels laugh it’s so contagious
Chuck: Something tells me you have a bias towards Earth
Neil: *i LiKe mE sOmE eArTh*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
you guys are great! fine balance between science & funny joke there, hilarious.
but, technically, the atmosphere if u manage to warm up mars, still gonna be blown away without the magnetic shield like earth, and its molten magnetic core
Without a barrier to cosmic rays any atmosphere will relatively quickly disappear. The inflatable diapole to create a magnetic field to push away cosmic rays looks interesting. There is co2 coming from Mars all the time which explains why it has any atmosphere. If the cosmic rays are blocked the atmosphere will build and temperatures will rise (by 4C annually initially).
I already love science. But these two make it so much fun.
Same 😀
I do love me some startalk. Keep it up guys.
Chuck is a good presenter because he lets Neil talk and Neil is the guy that we want to hear.
It's interesting when you consider the last time mars had an atmosphere the sun was cooler than it is now. It might kick start quicker than you think.
8:17
“One is none. Two is one. If it matters, it needs a backup”
-CGP Grey
Imagine heating up mars so hard the polar ice caps melt and instead of a new Earth we get a new Kamino.
100,000 nerds would be ready, with a million more well on the way
We'll get that clone army going
Oh i love this comment wow
I honestly don't know what Kamino is...
@@bobinthewest8559 bruh search it up
We are travelers, we have proven this time and time again, we are still traveling (the moon, Mars, etc.) and I imagine we always will!
Chuck you are the best! Comedy and science. Genius !
Earth is definitely the best.
Wouldn't solar wind blow away any atmosphere we create on Mars if we don't first put a magnetic field in place to shield it?
If we speed up the rotation then the days and nights will no longer be similar to earth. Also the mass of mars isnt similar to that of earth and so even that will also be a reason for the gases leaving the planet.
You guys are big brain
Yep, of course. I'll add, DUH
Mars does not have an atmosphere for a reason.
It is also needed to protect inhabitants from solar radiation.
@@nickolascrousillat4265 we only need to speed up the molten core
I could listen to neil for hours.. oh wait a min i already do!
where do you listen to neil for hours?? we rarely get over 1 hour on startalk
This interview slaps.
It do slap
This comment slaps.
This comment also slaps.
W comment
Yuh
I will always listen to every single word of this man
"I like me some Earth." NdGT
We have to go Mars; for the Elon -tusk- musk memes
see ur a man of culture
@@t.j1301 👌👌👌
The DORUK hahaha nice reference
I'm so glad that I don't get it.
Treelon Musk*
I would love to see this in my life time...
Hi Guys. Love your show but why are the sun rays yellow and not white at 2:40? Thank you for sharing so much knowledge and joy.
"Eat a lot of chili." damn lmao😂
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the solar wind effects on Mars since it lacks a powerful magnetic field. That's to me the biggest challenge of creating and maintaining a thick atmosphere.
Yea they managed to miss quite a few valid points to terraforming Mars. I feel bad for anyone who watched this and came away with the idea that all we need is methane and bacteria to make Mars habitable... 😕
Thanks
What's inside the bowl of chili idea absolutely amazing, and would be great for tourism
😢As a little girl I used to cry because kids would made fun of me, calling me nerd because my love and fascination for science. Specially since I had to wear glasses and was an introvert. As I got older I realized how cool and interesting nerds are..intelligence is lethal.
Don’t make this about you
@@a-a-rxn Complain elsewhere
@@razier5299 You’re that
Haha nerd
nerd
8:30 I'm just so sad that the asteroid hit the exact island where i live in Indonesia
target practice
but did you die?
Why?
If that happens take a selfie with it
Oof
thank you for making science fun
Wow chuck your science knowledge has grown, keep hanging with Neil he's the right crowd.
Who’s this comedian? 😂 he needs his own show!
It wouldn't bother me talking with Neil for endless hours about space.
These guys are great... Question: If we are going to have to live in habitats on Mars, why not just live in space habitats? 1G gravity, maybe a magnetic field, and closer to earth. Couldn't we get the water and metal to build these on the moon? It has a relatively weak gravity well.
I guess because a spinning space station is a bit more difficult to build than a surface station. When you think about it, the engineering challenges of designing a Martian surface habitat aren't **that** fundamentally different from building a space station.
These guys are so goofy and fun. Reminds me of the conversations we used to have when taking breaks from 18 hour study 📚 sessions in the basement of Founders Library at Howard University. Just a few black nerds kicking it. 😂
I want to say you can live on VENUS
At 50k up on the atmosphere is the most earthlike place (besides earth obviously) on the solar system. We could live there on floating cities like Bespin on star wars
That would proper dank
What if you reverse the runaway greenhouse on Venus,would it cool enough to live there?
@@Ron-rs2zl it would solve most of it but not all, ex Venus doesn't have oxygen nor water and rotates every 116 days and cooling it is more harder to do than heat it. It would for example need a giant umbrella of mirrors to Shadow the planet which it turn would require massive engineering and materials. I have no doubt that eventually it will be terraformed but for now Its easier to just build habitable areostats and link them together using oxygen itself as a lifting gas.
Need to get grav stabilisers tho
9 seconds pizza sounds nice.
but if you want to have a thicker atmosphere you will also need a magnetic field that protects the atmosphere from being blown away by the solar wind
If Mars is colonized, then we could potentially also build a system where the entire martian electrical grid is first funneled through a system that creates a planetary aligned magnetic field.
@@nolan4339 Exactly. People keep up talking about magnetic fields. As if making one isn't old tech.
Someone needs to explain how electromagnets work to these guys.
@@infozone9601 On a Planetary Scale? Where's the power going to come from to create that and maintain it - indefinitely? What kind of effect is that going to have on the people who live there?
Seems you'd want to do that before you tried Terra Forming it rather than after.
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I love Total Recall. Such a brilliant script
Any remote possibility of the Total Recall type methodology?
I'm so excited to see this happen, I wish I could see it happen now
Don’t count on it happening unless the problem with Mars almost non existing magnetic field can be strengthened enough to keep the solar winds from stripping away the atmosphere and less gravity on Mars having a bad effect on our bodies bones and organs.
5:23 just throw astroids from the astroid belt on Mars. That’ll do it.
Plus it will bulk up the planet a little bit
Could you do that?
@@lebryantjohnson7306 Its a simple weapon and quite destructive.
With the amount mass to be added via asteroids could it slow the revolution speed of Mars around the sun. Although with our planets traveling around the sun and our solar system around our galaxy I wonder if these forces help maintain our planets orbit around the sun.
Wow. Amazing.
I love how much fun they're having 😂