1000mm/s: RELAXED TESTING on Voron Ferrari!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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---------------Settings:
Filament: ESUN ABS+ - a great choice filament for strong parts and easy printing
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T_Hotend = 290C
T_Bed = 90C
Requested Speed: 1000mm/s
Acceleration: 35.000 mm/s²
square_corner_velocity: 15mm/s
Nozzle: 0.4mm
Layer Height: 0.1mm
Line width: 0.4mm
Volumetric flow: 40mm³/s
Lengths of straights: 65mm
Lengths of printing @ REAL 1000mm/s: 35mm
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-MOTION (Part 1: Video Deep Dive incoming)
Nema14 spec Voron V0.1 @1.7A (OMC 14HS20-1504S)
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F623 bearings instead of toothed idlers
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- EXTRUSION: (Part 2: Video Deep Dive)
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25mm axial fan (5V) for stepper drivers
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what heater did you use for the mosquito magnum
@@brimful-cookie5947 it’s a 50W heater cartridge here, but I am considering a more powerful one because of the external cooling
@@247printing thanks.
@@247printing i love your videos and im building a voron because of you.
@@brimful-cookie5947 wow thank you - gives me honest goosebumps reading that! You won’t regret the choice - I had so much fun and so many learnings with the Voron!
This is a good illustration of how the client imagines the 3D printing process.
Because it’s a so called „rapid“ prototyping process 😬
@@247printing its True tho even ať 25mm/s its still way faster than making a form
@@DreainCZE absolutely! And for single rapid prototyping parts on design iterations it totally makes sense to have a fast printer
That's true!!! Jajaja
i expect this 5 kilo print in like half an hour
How to avoid warping: print the whole part before the bottom layer gets cold.
Indeed! Speed helps against warping - don’t give a chance to internal stresses of the part 😬 - print at „warping speed“😂
@@247printing I know, that's the whole point of the comment. It's funny because it's true.
@@alphastratus6623 we agree! Thanks for commenting !
How about "super glue." Works for me. Print on glass so you can scrape it off but glue your part down in about 4 to 6 places. It's worth it.
@@DardanelleNews I stopped using adhesive stuff since I use structured or PEI coated spring steel on magnets. But for glas it’s perfect indeed! 3Dlac was my go to here - perfect adhesion, you don’t need much and you can remove it with water 👍
Sir, you should't feed your printer meth.
Straight up tweeking on the small coverage.
Vector: i have the fastest 3D printer, with odrive bldc motors
This guy: hold my klipper firmware
Thanks for this comment! Would you like to tell me who Vector is? Edit: Found him - I like this channel 😍
@@Lucas_sGarage I check it thanks a lot mate!
You rang?
you need an aerodynamic nozzle, the wind drives strongly and creates resistance)))
Just print in full vaccum...
@@Wingnut353 that would suck for materials that need to be in a heated chamber
@@louiscrespo1280 I think opposite. Without air, no convection for heat loss from part. Flip side -- no cooling at all...
@@traviswatson6527 Water cooling
@@L3X369
I wonder what materials would respond well to water sprayers for print cooling.
How to put 10 years of wear on your printer in 1 min lol. But seriously, this is awesome!
Thanks man! The wear isn’t dramatic - I used the Voron Zero for 3 months now on the limit and it’s still in very good condition 😊
Why would there be any wear ? I mean, linear guides and belts can handle way more then this :) hihihi nice one anyway.
The problem with high speed is the stiffness of the structure and the cinematic control (resonance, etc).
Have you notice any strange behavior at these speeds ?
Have you an example of the surface quality you manage to get at those speeds, acc and jerk parameters ? :)
@@foufou81 I’ll upload a full print and showcase at those parameters this weekend - if I am lucky this could be the 1000subs @ 1000mm/s special print 😍
@@247printing this is awesome, guess I'll be your 981st subscriber then
@@DeltaCodex very very cool, thank you!
We need this to run vase mode printings just going in circles at max speed.
Would be interesting to see, I’ll try it out, but shouldn’t be harder then this print 😊
Those stepper motors must have some high accuracy!
Holy mother of God! That's fast💯💪😆I luv it!
When the slicing software has to correct for Gforce 😂.
True! Thanks to resonance calibration on the firmware!
no need for part cooling fan! 😁
And your belts don't fall off,lol...my V0 doesn't like it,lol... it's getting jealous,lol
The x-rail likes to fall off unfortunately😅not designed for these accelerations and impulses 🤓
How I though my printer would print when I bought it about 6 years ago.
Same for me… the result was quite disappointing 🙊 but tech is here to go faster now
You might consider upgrading those belts with metal guides and ball bearings before they explode, but amazing anyway. Very cool.
Thanks a lot man!
Please make a speed benchy on this machine.
Incoming… will be really fast!
Do this please I just subbed 👍👌
I plan to publish the video on sunday 😬 it will be a loud print, it will be quite ugly and it will be the fastest on record 🙊 Also working on the fastest quality benchy on this machine - definitely clearly below 10min 😬
@@247printing looking forward to watching it !
So looking forward to this! Subbed...
Don't have a 3d printer but this reminds me of the brother pr670 embroidery machine just a lot slower
Any chance you can just drop a BOM so I can go buy exactly everything? Lol! I want it now!
Coming soon! Still testing the designs and components. But you can start building your Voron Zero at vorondesign.com
Most insane thing I've seen in years. Kudo's man!
Oh thanks mate! That’s really nice to hear… there is a lot more to come!
Epoxy cement base and fill inside of entire frame for greatly improved vibration dampening
Nice idea, I’ll think about that!
Damping, not “dampening”
@@landsurfmarin Autocorrect lol
man, i really wish these vibrations were slightly, unpleasantly wet
Imagine how fast vase mode would be
Edit: watched the whole print and it actually is in vase mode
You don’t have to imagine - you can watch it - it’s crazy! Please have a look at my other videos ☺️
а тебе принтер не жалко так насиловать?
Нет проблем! Для этого он создан :)
О, знакомые лица!
Ого! Сам Вольтник! :)
this scares me, but it's amazing
Even at this speed it's still slow ! xD
True! We have to go even faster 🔥
One step closer to the star trek replicator - Looks absolutely insane 🤪👏 .... but I wonder what the surface quality will be like!?
Exactly this! I hope we’ll see the Replicator in our life time! I’ll upload a full print video with quality check in the weekend 😊
200,000 units are ready, with a million more well on the way
Not everyone gets Clone Wars references :-)
This is so unreal..!! Great job man 🤗
Thanks man!
how did you manage to increase the print speed while maintaining the quality??
IDDQD
To see how much 2000mm/s is, switch to 2x
This reminds me of a soldering integrity lesson I once taught my employees a while back. Excellent job on your soldering integrity!
An awesome anecdote, I really enjoyed it! Thanks for that! Proper wiring, soldering and crimping is absolute key for reliability - I also had to learn it the hard way! Lots of failures!
How awkward would it have been if it snapped off and broke one of their noses? not going to lie if my boss whipped something heavy like that past my face it would end up around his neck.
@@labemolon5739 "But you wouldn’t work for me without a psych evaluation and background check and that type of behavior would have been identified in the background check by an ex or a relative."
Now contrast that with what you said earlier.
"I asked my employees to gather round a close circle. I then grabbed some wires and started spinning the sensor around fast enough to hear it whipping by and spun it in front of all their faces and yelled"
And...
"I anticipated it to break. Same belief as in “don’t pull out a gun unless you intend to shoot it”."
It is clearly obvious that despite your loyalty to your staff you still have no problem putting them into degrading situations as if you have somehow gained (or purchased) the right to put another person in that situation...I can say for sure is that it wouldn't matter if you "paid my mortgage" or let me smoke pot during my break, I would not let you do that to me because I have some pride. If you think it's acceptable to abuse your power like that then don't be surprised if someone abuses you back in another way. It's common sense.
@@ChimpyChamp just enjoy 3d printing 👍🏻
Imagine what huge effect such approach would have in schools!!! If teacher gets a whip, and start asking question, using the whip as response to wrong answers!
Waaaait a minute...
How fast can you print?
Yes.
Oh yes 😍
It took me a while to figure out, that this is not sped up....
Good job - i am starting to get a bit jealous.
Bronze and black looks great
Printer Goes BRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
nice
Your hotend is nice
Is that real speed? That's really fast!
Yes, absolutely real and still not the limit - did successful movement tests up to 1450mm/s! Extrusion not successful yet at that speed!
@@247printing Wow! That's insane 👍👍👍
@@247printing Can i get this speed with 2 motors 17HS4401 on each axis?
@@dmitriykonopinskiy3793 I don’t know the specs of these motors tbh
*relaxed printing*
printer: I AM SPEED
Meanwhile my anycubic mega s shits itself if I go above 50mm/s haha
when your machine start taking Steroids..🏋️♂️
what about making a full concentric infill ?! It will have less vibrations
Good idea, I’ll try out!
@@247printing or set the parameter of layers of side walls up until it's complete made out of side walls.
@@alphastratus6623 also a possibility! I have to admit: I liked the effect of the toolhead cornering out to the long y straights when printing the solid infills for the first two layers - but I’ll try out those suggestions for the full print video
I can only imagine my Devon rex around this thing
Insane, im using a FF Creator Pro and it cant print precise when going over 40/50
Right? I'm like, "Man, I can't get prints this nice at 45mm/s dammit."
Looks like it's on fast forward lol
I wonder what this printer would look like if you did something in vase mode?
Have a look on my 1100mm/s video - there I did a try on vase mode 😬
That's crazy insane!!!
I thank you, Nathan!
If doesn't work, at least you can play some samba...
Sweet momma! Hey, do you still have to slow way down on the 1st layer?
😬 yes I do, when going fast I am between 20-50% of the default printing speed - it was 250mm/s here. Maybe I upload the full print of this so you can see all layers.
@@247printing Yes please upload the full print man :)
@@OZtwo it’s coming, my V0 is disassembled atm and a want to do a #speedboatrace benchy first - this is going to be „quite“ fast 😬
Haha prusa employees hate him for this one weird trick 🤣
This is amazing. How does this even work?
Extremely buff hamsters on wheels.
It's all about the volume of liquid plastic in the hot end and the flow rate possible.
at the final part it sounded like bossa nova.. I like it!
Wooo this is nice! Great job!
Thank you!
I think kifness should compose a samba with this device
Play this video at 2x speed for 2000mm/s
Can you share with me the printer.cfg please? I am interested what setting you are using for motor x and y motors. When I am trying to go over 300mm/s with 10K accel on my voron vo, i have a big layer shift. I am using LDO kit with LDO motors.
Hey Anton, unfortunately there is or could be a lot more involved than my printer.cfg. You can have it for sure, but printers are not comparable and maybe it’s a better to chat in the speedboatrace discord about this 👍
if you try to put it in a vacuum chamber to reduce friction with the air, and use mineral oil to cool the hotend and the motherboard, but I have no idea how to cool the part itself
Oh man, I love thinking about topics like these! Thanks for inspiring!
Air friction is not an issue.
@@truantray oks sorry :-/
Man... my Prism Mendel needs a major update... :(
*looks at my Prusa Mini*
Prusa Mini: Dear God
0:02 Looks like a glitch in matrix :)
Talk about Breaking Wind!!!😳 I was expecting a Sonic Boom to happen at ANY MOMENT!!!💥💥💥
This would be so awesome... 343200 mm/s :D
Does this affect print quality?
What about the lifespan of the printer?
Awesome video
Print quality: Yes, definitely! Please consider this as a feasibility study :) Lifespan: The printer is 3.5months old. I am not able to judge the lifespan yet, but so far the wear in relation to the torturing is negligible!
*eyes my ender 3 v2 trying so hard at 50mm/s* You disgust me...but I love you like a puppy with 1 eye and 2.5 legs.....
Haha, nice one buddy! Made my day ❤️
Jesus, I can see the belts flexing on the longer bits on the sides. Is there some kind of strengthened belt that resists that kind of flexing at super high back-and-forth speed stuff? Might be able to push it farther without issues if so.
Thanks I’ll look at that!
Want a whole Master Chief armor ? It'll take a while..
How much ? .. Well over 25 minutes.
Haha, yessss 👍 I really hope that’s the future you are describing!
I read a comment where someone said the thing should become aerodynamic because it's moving too fast.
To one up that, what if it was in a vacuum chamber?
I am not really sure it aerodynamics have an effect here. From what I know you have to go speeds at around 100-120km/h to have negative effects from air drag. But I am no expert :)
1m/s...? 😳
Those wires look like me on a floaty while my dads driving the boat
Initially that was a work in progress video for the speedboat community - cable sleeves are a must here. But I like the picture a lot you described 😂
It looks so fast on a printer you almost can't follow with the eye when it's actually just the speed of a slow walking person.
This is what blows my mind every time I think about it 👍 Relations…
Talk over your next video while touching things. We need reliable proof now days, not deep fakes.
Hey Buddy, it really makes me happy to see that there are some people believing this is fake! Must be really special! But being in the Speedprinting scene for some time now: I am not the first at those speeds and it’s just a combination of motion speed, extrusion flow, cooling and software. No practical or theoretical hurdles for this 😊
Meanwhile I'm here with a refurbished ender 3 I got off ebay, printing at a solid 30mm/s.
I love my Ender 3 !
krank :D
The E-steps she tells you not to worry about.
sounds like a slowmotion sound effect :D
This makes me think its about to explode
Que buen ritmo tiene está maquina
Mother of Mary.... Jesus Christ!!!
С такой скоростью даже обдув не нужен - потоком от осей отлично охладит :)
Nice! I'm making progress on my inkjet dc encoder motor 3dp. It's fast, but loud when converting step/dir to the encoder/pid because it needs to brake to avoid overshoot every tick.
Do you use encoders? Geared down? How do you avoid noisy braking?
You can see the videos on my channel.
I’ll have a look, sounds very interesting! I am using Nema14 motors on tmc2209 stepper drivers here - really not fancy in comparison to what you are on to!
Sounds like Chidori in Naruto😂
I can’t even imagine what went Into making this thing print this fast. Your settings must be a pain to trouble shoot. What are are you printing with and how hot? Not even gonna try this with my printers
It was a lot of fun while learning and yeah… spent lot of time in designing/testing and parameter variation for the settings ☺️ it’s ABS+ at 300C/105C - more details in the description 👍 thanks a lot for commenting 😍
will it shred?
Hmmmm….. Don’t get it 😅
Fantastic achievement but a brown Voron? Isn't there some sort of law against that?
I'd say: Matter of taste ;) I don't know if I would do that again though...
Holy shit, I’m new to 3D printing and see this thing blazing through a print unlike anything I’ve seen. I just ordered a prusa mini+ looking at RUclips for tips and tricks … this obviously ain’t one of em lol
I just wanted to write: „Welcome… to the hell of optimization!!!“ but… you ordered a Prusa… My MK3S+ still is (despite all this speed going on) my favorite printer, because it just WORKS conveniently! Very good choice 👍 maybe you won’t need Tipps and Tricks ;)
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Let's set a new goal! The speed of light! It looks like is close to!
Nice job!
Thanks a lot :) I try to hit it :D
No one knows that the video waa edit, it was reduce the velocity for we could see the movementes v':
Not edited here
Anyone can print PLA, let's see some ABS or PETG printing.
Hmmmm maybe I don’t get it, but you watch an ABS print here ☺️
sheeeet... that's crazy ....
Indeed!
What kind of belts are you using that can handle that kind of inertial forces?
You find a link to the gates belts in the video description ☺️ no problem so far as the motion system is kind of light weight
Here I am thinking I'm pushing my printer at 60 mm second lol
I hope the manufacturers are ready for the speed revolution - not too mach to do for them!
Can you recommend the best available kit for voron 0 build?
I ordered the Kit from Formbot (AliExpress) and it was ok, but I had to change some stuff to be reliable. LDO recently started to offer kits and they seem to be high quality. I’d go for LDO at the moment!
@@247printing thanks for the reply! Love your channel!
@@Liris777 I love it to be in contact with you guys! Thanks a lot that you are here!
@@247printing checked out LDO, only US delivery available... so sad, I am watching you from the Kazakhstan 🇰🇿:)
Greetings to Kazakhstan! At least there are vendors in Europe who resell their kits, maybe you’ll find one for your area? Or you could go for a AliExpress kit - it’s ok to start with that and it’s way cheaper.
Just make sure the thing does not reach escape velocity :0 ...
Oh, no!
3D.-1D Printing. The dimension subtracted is time!
This!
Hit the palm of your hand in the water. Even though the filament is already liquid, there comes a time when it meets resistance like your hand hitting the water. how did you solve this? I tried to print at high speeds but there comes a time the nozzle do not work. Greetings from Brazil.
Greetings to Brazil! This is a very complex topic and I get your point… What makes a difference is a longer melting zone like a mosquito magnum with a volcano style block (see Nitrams volcomosq), higher temperatures than usual (280C to 320C) and material choices (Esun ABS+ is very good for these speeds). Concerning fluid dynamics I can’t really explain if there is an impact-like analogy like you stated. I assume speeds (Pressure Advance moves or Retracts) are not comparable here. Maybe Nitram joins this conversation - I ask him!
Okay but can I get a walkthrough? I have a printer, but other than just telling it to go faster (and risk the print failing) I dont know what to do. Everything is evolving so fast. I love it but its hard to keep up for a hobby I can sometimes get to after work.
Stay tuned! I am intensively working on a series „Deep Dive to Speedprinting“: Motion, Extrusion, Cooling and Software (Firmware/Slicer) - that’s going to be huge and still a lot to do, but it’s coming for sure ☺️
i just wonder how long those steppermotors and the belt will handle that speed ^^
That's something time will show! Up today - 3 months of excessive use - no signs of wear so far! Motors are actively cooled.
This should be in an enclosure... for your safety and the safety of others
I agree! No others involved while doing this and since I started to develop an allergy to ABS, I wear a full face mask while testing or recording 👍 Absolutely right to mention this from your side.
Holy mother of speed... its on speed for real!!
Waouh ! Impressionnant !
Me 😭 seeing this printing at 50
Сколько бы ты не разгонял принтер, пластик все равно быстро не застынет. Итог задиры будут. Потому он максимум может добиться результатов на этой скорости делая широкие квадратные вазы.
Нет проблем с достаточным охлаждением :) Эта форма более требовательна, чем сложные формы.
You should turn your slicer to "vase mode" if it's 1 wall build (preventing stop, direction change and may be micro nozzle motion on each layers)
Yeah, I tried two walls for that video. Full print of that - Vase Mode part of That - This evening right here!
@@247printing you can still use vase mode with parts that have thick walls. There is a video of a guy explaining it.
The key is you have to take into account the thickness of the nossle and "draw" the route almost complete with a cut-in of just 2 thicknesses (one inbound, one outbound) so you go to the interior perimeter, then modify the interior perimeter to do several trips just near the outer wall to the thickness of the nossle.
It creates a very stiff print and is going to be fast on this printer.
@@eddypdeb the limiting factor on thick walls printed on Vase Mode is the throughput of the extrusion system at that speed. With my high flow config (mosquito magnum with long heater block) I am quite on the limit doing 0.1mm layer height, 0.4mm single wall at 1000mm/s. I recently uploaded a Vase Mode preview on this. From calculation it would be possible to do a 0.8mm thick wall at 500mm/s. Which still would be fast, but not 4 digits fast 😊