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can you believe it divas? we've finally arrived at a MUCH requested video: ranking the tortured poets department by taylor swift and fixing the tracklist. if you're new here, this is a series where I tell you my album highlights and then try and reorganize those highlights (and even songs that aren't my personal highlights) into a track list that spells out a specific message. these are one of my favorites to film and I know you guys love em too....on my spotify page you can find the other albums I've done: red, speak now, lover, reputation, folkmore, midnights, 1989, and (coming soon) fearless.
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Hopped on here to say we have to talk about this proliferation of toxic subreddits dedicated to Tayvis hate (r/travisandtaylor) as well as Mattyship (r/taylorandmatty) and even Joeship in the new TTPD era. I would love to hear your commentary on that! Why are there people so obsessed with and dedicated to hating Taylor or worshipping failed relationships?
I just saw a video that thank you Aimee is about karli Kloss? It's was really convincing for me 😂 😅
well yes is now permanently part of my vocabulary and i blame you i literally cant stop saying it 😭
Exactly , it’s engraved in my vocabulary at this point
my imapct
Same
Same with “cricket” 😭 I keep saying it in front of my friends and they be so confused
@@theswiftologist that’s a real fkn legacy
“It is an insult to say you’re so boring I had to date an idiot to feel something” LMAO that got me, literally have experienced the same thing before.
This is so it. Ppl who say Joe didn’t do anything wrong/didn’t get roasted are so wrong lol
@@jillsarah7356 I wouldn't say he got roasted. Lightly sauteed, perhaps.
@@Inksplatter1991 I don't know what album you listened too, but I distinctly remember hearing the gobble of a turkey in a bonfire 👀
@@KateCat420 She mentioned that he was sad and quiet. Her busting out of jail/bars was a metaphor for her being cooped up. She never mentioned that being with him was a bad experience. His songs were fine. I can do it with a broken heart - "I'm so obsessed with him but he avoids me like the plague". So long London - "bluest days and quiet resentment". How did it end - "He was a hot house flower to my outdoorsman". And "the black dog" was angry but it didn't mention anything damaging except Joe seems to take off after fights. You guys want to make him the villain when in actuality it was just a normal break up between an introvert and an extrovert. Sometimes different personality types make it work, sometimes they don't.
How is that Joe's fault. If you find someone soo boring well just leave, if you stay well you're actually the idiot in the scenario. One person's "boring" is another person's "fun" it's all subjective. Being a quite depressed introvert is not a crime, you don't like it well don't date some who is, it's kinda that simple that's on you-Turkey.
Peter going in your delete actually hurts my soul
Shattered. It’s one of my favorite songs.
Peter and Cassandra and Florida!!!! are literally my favourite songs on the album
Take it with a pinch of salt.
Aaron 's productions are so awful
Peter is so beautiful 😢
My friend said she hears Fortnight as an outro, because the melody kind of sounds like it’s fading away. I think that’s kind of interesting.
yeah, Fortnight sonically sounds like the last track on an album. it’s hard to explain but some songs to me just sound like that lol
YES it sounds like it’s the outro for the Midnights album!!
I find it interesting that the manuscript also works well as a first song, maybe its in reverse or something
Florida should go higher in my opinion
@@kidsfirth7900 Florida is a flop
i get so happy whenever you call me a diva
exactly, diva!
Honestly I think Peter is important in the establishment of how matty healy acted when they were in the relationship and how he promised to fix himself for her. It helps explain the past and how Taylor has finally realized that there’s no helping a lost cause, for the “smallest man who ever lived” can never truly grow up.
I think what swiftologist said on the review of the album is right tho, sam or Sophia or Marcus and I can fix him covers this theme though already
@@TheLizard199 I feel like peter is more about closing the chapter definitively - like "we are never getting back together", feeling the grief of losing the relationship and idea of it, breaking the destiny's path
We'll never know that, as it should be, we get to perceive these characters as just that, characters (maybe inspired by reality, to a large or small degree, but it's irrelevant), and as far the main character of the record goes, I think it's an ode to limerence over living out the years long fantasy, but I also don't think the narrator wrote out the main character here.
@TheLizard199 But I Can Fix Him is basically a filler interlude, and Chloe and friends gets overshadowed by more similar songs like How Did It End and loml. Peter has a unique metaphor and conveys it stronger.
peter is definitively more impactful than either of those songs and it ties back to cardigan in a big way. i think it deserves its flowers.
one thing about me is i will always be SEATED for a swiftologist ranking & reshuffling
Oh, that's another Zachism! My boss posted a really cool talk at work and I actually responded with SEATED
I love your reordered track list for the standard version narratively, BUT the album ending with “try and come for my job 🤪” is sending me lol
for me it should be "will I always wonder?"
I actually love ICDIWABH as the closer, but get rid of the cringy, lack of humility in “try and come for my job.” Just go “cause I’m miserable and no one even knows… cause I CAN DO IT WITH A BROKEN HEART” and do the chorus one more time. End with “it’s an art, you know you’re good when you can even do it with a broken heart.” Music stops right on the word heart.
"earblood" is really quite a lovely, somewhat horrific turn of phrase
Lmao I read this comment like a second before he said it and I was like "what could that possibly mean", then immediately said "well yes" 😂
Florida wasn’t hitting for me at first until I realized Matty is literally the personification of the “Florida man” meme/trope especially since the song itself is a metaphor for a rebound, but using Florida as the “rebound” didn’t make sense until that hit me 🤣😭
😂😂😂
Omgggg it makes sense now crazy Matty is FL!!!
Guilty as Sin is the #1 diva in my mind and I am so happy you agree. The storytelling is so rich- the melody and build-up projects a feeling of REVELING in longing for someone, being with someone in the fantasy of one’s own mind, which is what the song is about. I enter another dimension when this song comes on.
Standard Edition:
1. So Long, London
2. Guilty as Sin
3. Fresh Out The Slammer
4. The Alchemy
5. But Daddy I love him
6. The Tortured Poets department
7. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
8. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
9. Down Bad
10. How Did It End?
11. Fortnight (Ft. Post Melone)
12. imgonnagetyouback
13. loml
14. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
2 AM Edition:
15. I Hate It Here
16. I Look In People's Windows
17. The Albatross
18. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
19. The Black Dog
20. The Prophesy
The bolter is good though
THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT : 2AM EDITION (THE TIL' THE DAY EDITION)
21. Florida!!!
22. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?
23. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
24. Clara Bow
25. So High School
26. thanK you aIMee
27. Cassandra
28. Peter
29. The Bolter
30. Robin
31. The Manuscript
@@leonthemirrorball also the manuscript
I was with you until you cut The Bolter
I agree with this list!!!!!! But I need you to include Peter in the 2am edition. It’s too good!
I went to n3 of the Paris Eras Tour shows and the TTPD set was incredible. My dad came with me and even though he isn't a Swiftie he was impressed. Also he says his favorite album is Fearless and she played Hey Stephen ( his name is Stéphane ) so I love Taylor for that
I think How Did It End? would make a great opening track. mostly lyrically. imagine releasing an album after a breakup, people tuning in to get the tea and then starting off with that song. that would gag. and it's a beautiful song on top of being a plot twist
"Those first three songs. That was an interesting journey that we had."
Kinda agree.
They felt like a three track long "i forgot that you existed"
YES! i was so scared the first time i was listening thru them like, is this what the rest of the album is going to be like
I feel like it was the first two for me and when it got to track three I was relieved
For me it was the first two. When I got to My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys, i breathed a sigh of relief 😂😂
Tbh i felt that with the first 4 tracks in my first listen, and from so long london onwards it clicked and made sense to me (i now love down bad and really enjoy my boy and fortnight, but still haven’t really gotten into the title track)
@@RandomlyAchievedBrilliance SAMEEE
I could be wrong but I’d guess Who’s Afraid Of Little Old Me? may resonate more with women - similar to the way mad woman does. there are parallels of lived experience of being lured, hurt, caged and called crazy, but I totally agree I don’t think it’s satire at all !
Well yes, but also there’s really no experience more patronizing than being a feminine gay man, so I’m sure it’s relatable in some way.
Must we always compare everything? They are different experiences.
You think being a gay MAN is harder than being a woman? What a joke. @@VEGAS-NERVE
It's definitely metaphor, and it's definitely not satire. It evokes horror imo.
I’m not the biggest fan of Peter but I find myself going back to it just to skip to the bridge. The whole, “I won’t confess that I waited” part hits somewhere deep😭
Yes that song didn’t grab me at first (I think it being near the end of the album hurt it cuz we were all pretty exhausted by that point lol) but once I went back and really listened to the bridge I was won over. It’s one of her BEST BRIDGES of all time “but the woman who sits by the window has turned out the light” is such beautiful imagery 😭
Waiting for Madeline to chime in immediately once Zack mentioned “Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus” lol 21:07
truly believe she and i are the number 1 stans of that song
I am obsessed with that song 😭😭😭😭
Clara Bow is indeed understated. That’s partly why to me it’s maybe her most evocative song, using fewer words to say so much. I get such big feels out of it, maybe because I’m 71 and you don’t get to my age without experiencing many different kinds of losses. I’m sure I cried the first ten times I listened to it, first for Taylor and then for me.
It makes me cry every time.
the most needed reshuffling
People are sleeping on Peter. It’s the sequel to cardigan after all!
On first listen of TTPD, Peter was the only song that hit me instantly.
Yes people are really sleeping.... On Peter.... Like the repetition in it gives a sense of longing and betrayal " you said you're gonna grow up, then you're gonna come find me........... But never to keep" at the end it gives a realisation also, that Peter is not coming back.
It makes me sad that you don't appreciate How Did It End? I think it's one of the most beautiful and interesting breakup songs she's ever written. The way it hones in on the specific feeling of having to open your wounds every time you explain your breakup to anyone you know and to me it's so eloquent and it hits me so hard every time I hear it!
i clearly do bc its on my reshuffled list
@@theswiftologist oop
I think it's so interesting how everyone is so sure that Cassandra is about snakegate, because I don't think it is. She wouldn't have needed to use Cassandra as a character for that!
Cassandra is a figure from greek mythology that was the priestes of the temple of Apollon in Troy (the one with the Troyan horse, which she told people about beforehand). The god Apollon took a liking into her, so he gave her the gift to foresee the future with extreme accuracy. He then tried to make a move on her and when she didn't give into his sexual assault, he couldn't take the gift away, so he instead cursed her, so that no one would ever believe her, even tho if they did, terrible things could be prevented (like Troy being destroyed)
Now what does that have to do with Taylor Swift? She herself had a SA case a couple years ago and on her Rep Tour gave a speech about how glad she was, that the jury chose to believe her and rule in her favor and how she doesn't know where she'd be if she hadn't been believed (she included that speech in the movie, so it was clearly important to her that as many people as possible heard it)
To then go and choose a character as a standin for herself, that was literally cursed to never be believed because she didn't give into sexual assault speaks volumes to me.
This song is about men claiming power over women, men being believed over women in our society, men only being okay with women having power, as long as it serves them, men thinking women owe them sexual favours for being nice.
I can't dislike this song because of this very powerful message it holds, when you take the whole of it into account
(which doesn't mean I'm trying to change your mind, if you don't like it that's that, I just think it's terribly slept on and misunderstood)
Im so glad you shared your interpretation! It makes me see the song in a new light
YES. I think this song is about three things: the SA case, the Kim/ Kanye debacle, and the sale of her masters. She uses the myth of Cassandra to explore women’s experiences not being listened to or believed. It’s incredibly powerful, even if it doesn’t fit thematically with some of the rest of the album.
I completely agree with you!
This interpretation just gave added a whole new dimension to this song for me! Thank you!
I love the idea of the album starting with ‘Oh, here we go again’ and ending with ‘How did it end?’ 🥲 So here’s my track list:
1. My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys
2. Down Bad
3. Guilty as Sin?
4. So Long, London
5. loml
6. Fresh Out The Slammer
7. The Alchemy
8. The Tortured Poets Department
9. But Daddy I Love Him
10. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
11. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
12. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
13. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
14. Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?
15. The Black Dog
16. The Prophecy
17. How Did It End?
Oh this is such a perfect tracklist!
omg it's so similar to mine 🖤
ikrrr!! loml is such a track 5 😭🤌🏼💔
Peter deserves better ! The bridge is such a standout. I absolutely can't agree with Peter erasure.
One of her best bridges 💜
@@Inksplatter1991 I'm not that big fan of Peter but "Love is never lost when perspective is earn" is just so beautiful. I love it so so much ❤
Peter’s bridge is objectively the best on the album 😭 like how can you cut that
@@popebonifaceviii2736 I mean that's your opinion, you are entitled to have one but people don't have to agree with it u know
Well well well… not that we care, but let’s talk for the sake of conversation 😅. I typically agree with most of what you say, and that stands in this video.
BUT…
I’ve always found the fandoms opinion of track 5 to be so interesting. It seems to be a popular opinion that SLL isn’t the best track 5, and to that I say, who are we to say what a track 5 should be? Track 5 isn’t ours, it’s Taylor’s. When she places a song there, she’s telling us something. She’s placing her most emotionally jarring song there, not ours.
With that said, I think SLL is the perfect track 5. I think the breakdown of a 6 year relationship is massively complex and confusing and drawn out… it’s much easier to write about an intense 2 week situationship than it is to peel back all of the layers of a longterm relationship and expose yourself to the feelings about a relationship you thought was the last one… the forever. And if we really think about it, the rest of the album is a result of her leaving that relationship, wanting something entirely different, and realizing she threw yourself head first into something that was ultimately similar to the last.
I think for track 5 to be directly linked to the turkey, when the rest of the album is either pointedly about the rat and/or a mixture of the 2… well, yes. Is that not the ultimate track 5? Is that not her saying hey, I’m distracting you with all of this chaos over here, but don’t you see…. the ending of my life in/with London was actually the most devastating thing to have happened to me? 🤔
*insert choir sounds* this is exactly it!!
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Idk but ttpd song just gets me i can't stop listening for no particular reason but "everyone we know understands why it's meant to be" line is just a vibe
agree
@@user-vy5fx4hk6h same. it feels like soemthing from a movie, it's a very visual song, and as a visual girlie, i could imagine the scene playing out in my head as i listened to it. i know everyone hates and despises the second verse, but i can imagine it like a movie scene when i listen (great imagery i will say) - yea i love movies and movie soundtracks so that's probably why.
Same. I find it so catchy
Yes girl, I love it so much too, and I listen to it frequently
@@user-vy5fx4hk6h definitely!
Imgonnagetyouback is my obsession. It's playing in my head everyday on repeat.
Same
Lowkey one of the best up tempo songs on the album!!
@@jubilee4 100% I’m a slut for those kinds of songs
Taylor sing-screaming “even if it’s handcuffed, I’m leaving her with you!” may be my favorite moment on the entire album. It’s so wildly unhinged, and I love her for it.
@@xqueenfrostine so cathartic listening in the car! My favorite part of the bridge is "we broke all the pieces but still wanna play the game...OH"
I love “I Hate It Here” because I am love disassociating!
Defending WAOLOM:
IMO it goes so hard at Taylor's pain, frustration & anger at all the various people (both professional & personal), media (social & professional), and fans/haters who have negatively impacted her.
It evokes so many emotions that I'd feel a huge loss if it suddenly disappeared.
It is a brilliant, brilliant song. I’m loving the way she performs it, too, in the Eras Tour
It definitely needs more story. She doesn't explain why she's someone to be afraid of.
I think TS herself summed it up perfectly, it’s “female rage” in a song. People who say she doesn’t explain exactly who she’s mad at- she rarely specifically names anyone (with the exception of Dear John) & it’s about her relationship with fame, with womanhood, being disrespected, ect. Classic Taylor goddess lyricism of specific imagery, that’s also very relatable. The people who don’t get it- won’t. But those of us who do get it, bawl our eyes out & scream sing along. It was my favorite from 1st listen to where it stays on repeat. 🩶
@@cottage-core_ it´s an amazing song but it does need 1 or 2 extra songs like But Daddy I Love Him for example to give a context why she´s angry. It must be part of an album, it wouldn´t work as a standalone track without an album that gives it context.
I think it's a Gorgeous Girl for sure.
YOU’RE SO CLOSE TO 100k. So well deserved
Black Dog is my "ABSOLUTELY NEVER SKIP KNIFE TO YOUR THROAT" song. The guitar riff on "screaming" is gorgeous.
I feel like fortnight is about forever running into an ex over and over when you’ve both moved on and you have the urge to delete both of your new partners and risk it all to get back with them even though it was a quick fling, using settling down in a suburban way as a metaphor. How the hospital imagery makes sense with that, idk…. The song makes more sense with each listen but it’s still really weird
the video not really matching the song reminds me of i can see you
Yes! I was SO CONFUSED when I first heard it but now I can kinda see the vision. Literally clicked for me just today. Which, honestly, I think is a bad thing.
@@hanaz1023 You make a good point. Like, the entire first verse still makes absolutely no sense to me. No one noticed my new aesthetic? Huh? But the rest clicked eventually. I wonder why she picked such a confusing song to not only open the album but to also be the first single?
@@benistheproblemthat line may be my least favorite on the album. I can’t figured it out. It sounds like she’s saying she stopped being an alcoholic because no one noticed, which is usually the opposite of what happens. I like fortnight, but that line’s a clunker.
@@xqueenfrostine I think she might mean that she was an alcoholic, screaming for help, using it as copium, but then stopped because nobody noticed she needs helps so in her mind she wasn't really addicted, she just wanted help and she didn't get it.
I don't particularly like this meaning of it, but I can't really imagine that line being about something else. I like how she sings it and how it sounds but...
the transition from loml to I Can Do It is the highest peak of the album for me personally. glad to see that you see it too!
its soooo good
the three track run of loml, icdiwabh, and tsmwel is so extremely INSANE. Like those are three off her best songs of her career IN A ROW. Im' gagged, diva down.
I'm going to make a case for so high school. At first listen I thought WTF? Why is this on the anthology? I understand feeling like it doesn't fit the narrative of the album, but the song has grown on me a great deal and I think including makes it a more impactful song. The juxtaposition of the devastation over the Matty breakup, to then finding someone who makes you feel like you're 16 again is powerful.
20:43 the anthology is woodvale’s reincarnation
I felt so good and so heard when you said the opening track is So Long, London, i have said since the album came out, So Long, London is the perfect opening track, honestly i 100% agree with the first 3 tracks
I made an edited playlist and also put SLL as track one. For me the album kinda drags until that song hits, and it builds the tension that the album desperately needs.
So Long London has such an unexpected start that it would have been amazing as the first song!
Yeah I agree it's the answer to you're losing me so it gives at the same time the continuation and the closure of that relationship.
I’m imagining how I would have felt clicking play on the album on release day and hearing the intro to SLL and I WOULD BE GAGGED
I really like that you only do sponsers that you Genuinely use yourself and believe in
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“thanK you aIMee, delete”
Well yes!!!
“And yknow what, where’s Cassandra? She’s going there too”
IM GAGGEDDD 💀💀💀
That 1,2 punch was so funny I can’t
😂😂😂
But it was undeserved, at least for Cassandra 😭 but he’s a man so I get it lol
@@Rachels7777 well as a woman, I agree with him lol
@@Rachels7777 thanK you aIMee getting the boot was just good clean fun. I always skip Cassandra too cuz I don’t want to hear about kimye anymore 🫠
It was so good and correct 😂
PREACH! taylor literally outdid herself with "Guilty as Sin?" no one can change my mind
I mean you only speak facts it’s clearly the best song on the album, much better than the overrated but daddy I love him and who’s afraid of little old me
@@Seraqueenyuh I'm a Guilty as sin stan but Daddy I love him is not overrated at all, can't say the same about WAOLOM.... DILH is just so so good of a song and after the performance I'm obsessed 😂😂
@@That_BrownGirl agree to disagree, for me but daddy I love him is too annoying to listen to. Me personally I think it’s corny and mediocre but at least it’s not as bad as Who’s afraid of little old me and Florida
@@Seraqueenyuh Florida just has that one hook "Floridaaaaa it's one hell of a drug" but other than that I don't listen to it much either
I agree with a lot of what you said.
Skips for me:
Thank you Aimee
Robin
The Manuscript
Florida!!!
Cassandra (most times)
Except:
Peter however is a masterpiece in my household. Just a stunning song.
Same for So high school.
Same for The Bolter
MBOBHFT is a bop! So fun.
I so agree on your skips and that Peter is just in another stratosphere. For me…one of her best songs of all time.
Hard agree!
@@sarahs7058 dare I say one of the best she’s ever written…….
I personally think fearless doesn't even need a tracklist remake for me fearless tracklist is the more organized one. BUT DEBUT IS BEGGING for a tracklist remake because that wasn't even a tracklist it was just a collection
Debut is a complete mess but Fearless standard could also use bit of re-shuffling:
1. Fearless
2. You Belong With Me
3. Love Story
4. Hey Stephen
5. White Horse
6. Fifteen
7. Breathe (feat. Colbie Caillat)
8. Forever & Always
9. Tell Me Why
10. You´re Not Sorry
11. The Way I Loved You
12. The Best Day
13. Change
This way it sounds like 1 cohesive story from start to finish
Fearless needs to be shorter that's it tbh
@@folklore9062 the standard edition of the album was only 13 songs, less than an hour. Taylor's Version is longer because of the bonus tracks and vault tracks, but the og is a pretty perfect length.
“Our field of dreams…” “ Your arsons match” perfection. Love your shuffle.
since you asked for non-taylor-related video suggestions- I remember you mentioned wanting to talk about chappell roan, and I personally would devour that video!
coming up soon!!
I’m gagged on the disrespect for ‘ I can fix him, no really I can” that whole “good boy that’s right” ARTISTY sends me
The production on that song is excellent too!
I think the tagline for Fortnight is literally “I love you, it’s ruining my life” which to me seems to encapsulate most of the records narrative as a ‘tortured poet’ that was the vibe I got at least🤷♀️ great video!🫶
i feel like thank you aimee was put on the album because of kim using "speak now" on her instagram story as a reminder "i still hate you"
I like how she uses the metaphor of a high school bully in this song.
For me, when something just makes sense and is perfectly balanced, all I can do is sigh with happiness at the feeling that all is right with the world. You put so much thought into this revised track list, and all I can do is sigh at its perfection.
In my version of the album I have smallest man and then black dog, those are the angry sister songs to me. She’s just pissed as hell 😅
lmaooooo
Thats such a cool tracklist! Here is mine:
1. The Black Dog (opening track)
2. So Long, London
3. How did it end?
4. My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys
5. loml
6. Guilty As Sin?
7. Fresh out the Slammer
8. The Tortured Poets Department
9. But Daddy I love him
10. I can fix him (no really I can)
11. I hate it here
12. Down Bad
13. I Can Do it With a Broken Heart
14. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
15. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
16. I Look in People's Windows
17. The Bolter
18. The Prophecy (end track)
Ohhhh this is good
The production twist at the end of FOTS is so fun. The way the music gets a bit nebulous for a few seconds and then shifts to something else entirely is really cool and one of my favorite bits of the album.
That’s been a consistent top three for me
can we just call is slammer plz FOTS sounds like a disease
@@astaldaron9724 😂
Reminds me of Lana Del Rey's song West Coast 😊 still love Taylor though
Joe Alwyn is such a flop he couldnt even get the main role on his break up album
I died at this comment dead 😂😂😂😂
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This is the only valid TTPD tracklist btw!
Florida!!! is straight into the cannon for me lmao I love it
and Dorothea 🤣
Can’t wait to watch!! I always love seeing how you re-shuffle the albums since your track lists always make sense and this album desperately needs some reshuffling 😭
hope you likeeee it
We love it @@theswiftologist
thank you we've been waiting for this
Almost 100k!! So excited for you to hit that milestone. I think I found you around 22k subs. Congrats on the success!
I clicked faster than you could say saboteur
I'm here just jumping around your videos from different times and I'm enjoying bingeing everything! I don't regret that this channel has become my new hyperfixation
enjoy!!
I have been waiting for this for so long
Thank you Z! I thought this Sunday was going to be boring but you‘ve blessed 😇
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@theswiftologistof course I am a glutton for Swiftologist videos! Your Tracklist literally is the same as mine but I had “how did it end?” As the second song of “TTPD my Version” and our rankings are the same except for
Cassandra 🥲 but I see that song more in relation to Greek mythology not as Taylor & Haters & 🛴 etc.. 😂😅 thanks your for making this Sunday not boring 💖
Thank you for making a Spotify playlist with your reorganized track list! I’ve been listening to her “5 stages of grief” playlists and it’s an interesting new way to listen to her music vs album by album. I think your track order makes a lot of sense and I look forward to listening to it.
I really like your take on rearranging the track list and your explanation of why you've put each song where it is. So glad to see you put together playlists of these as well! I'm looking forward to listening to it in this order.
Also I'm fairly new to the channel but what I've seen, I love. Your personality is so fun and you present things in such an informative yet conversational way and I just find you really entertaining.
Thank you so much!! I hope you stick around
The Black Dog has been my comfort song anytime I feel anxiety since the album dropped. I love it sm. Just makes me feel calm separate from LOVING the lyrics.
its amazing
well yes! we’ve been waiting for this
Omg! You literally articulated everything I've been feeling. I felt like my thoughts would be unpopular opinions, but we are really on the same page.
Thanks a million for the playlist! I so enjoy the balanced duality of your channel; the sometimes hard hitting but intelligent criticism as well as sharing your absolute fangirling moments. Always energetic, poetic and entertaining. Bravissimo!
Yessss I’ve been waiting for this one! You’re truly so amazing at what you do and I enjoy every single video you make! Thank you for being very creative with every video!
Thank you so much!!
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS OMGG
Yes! We were all waiting for this one!
The reorganized track list and the storyline makes so much sense! You are amazing. :D
What? Why was Cassandra deleted? 😭😭
We had to analyze Cassandra in English class, and I decided to do a completely void of information take, like without Taylor's backstory, and take it as a completely fictional story. AND IT IS A LYRICAL MASTERPIECE.
It is a story of a woman told that her ideas, her predictions, are outrageous. That she is mentally unstable. That she is a threat to society, because of her prophecies, of her foretelling the future. They take out their anger on her and any supporters (like Cassandra) because they are afraid of her being right. Cassandra is also a Greek princess (so slay ikr) who was cursed by Apollo, so that she could see the future, but no-one would believe her.
I also see it as a sister to Mad Woman. Carrying the same themes of defying the order and being ostracized, and being called mad.
In my mind, she predicted a natural disaster, and she was punished for proposing such things, such bloodshed. But in the end, she was right, the disaster causes bloodshed and violence, killing almost every citizen.
And that's why the song ends with "It's so quiet." and emphasis is made on that particular phrase, because if everyone's dead, who's going to speak?
I wish I could attach pictures of my highlighting, writing, and conclusions with this comment but I can't. :(
My literature teacher was actually quite proud of my assessment, so I consider it a good theory.
Maybe if this comment gets to 200 likes I'll type it out in the replies. :))
Edit: BTW, this is my opinion and it's okay if you don't share it. If you don't feel the same way, feel free to scroll by 🤭
To me this song seems interesting because it's the first time she's referencing Greek Mythology. As a huge Greek mythology nerd (started with pjo loll) this was important TO ME. However, the swiftologist has his own opinions and he has good points. This comment was written for those people who liked Cassandra and wanted to find someone sharing the opinion. :)
Edit 2: MUAHAHAHA HOW DOES IT FEEL NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT CASSANDRA WAS ONE OF TAYLOR'S FAVOURITES FROM THE ENTIRE ALBUM, SO MUCH SO THAT SHE HAS RELEASED THE FIRST VOICE MEMO FOR IT? I feel so happy that I did not undermine the song's beauty. :D
Dont hold urself back!
We all love smart swefties like u that help decode her literary masterpieces.
its.... basic like... welcome to greek mythology 101 no?
No shade at all, but a decent retelling and pretty lyrics don’t necessarily make a good song.
this is all so basic lmao.
No shade, just tea.
Are you dumb @@AllTheArtsy
I don't think that _My boy only breaks his favorite toys_ 's metaphor is NOT weak because: it's multi-layered. It's three metaphors in one, it's an incredible writing feature and serves the narrative as the moment in the album where she signals "hey, remember my 'angel boyfriend' who I didn't wat anyrhing bad written about? WE'RE GOING AT HIM NOW", cuz that is a deep cut, my friends.... Look:
1) In the The Great War scheme of things, they lost, but not because of her, media's underdog on who no one bets on having a long lasting relationship, but because of him-- she was The Man, he was the sickest army doll, purchased at the mall, to delicate (yes, delicate) to withstand the tempests of the world, unlike a less "refined" but stronger doll would;
2) G.I.JOE -- how is no one getting it? Also, it has the additional layer that _"G.I"_ stands for "galvanized iron" -- he is encapsuled in an outer shell of protection that is innefective, because it can rust (between telephones aaah), but also keeps her from accessing what's on the inside;
3) straight out calling him childish, good bye London Boy, a failled attempt to be Ken to her Barbie, almost like if Mako, from Avatar Korra did try to be a cinema vedette instead of Bolin: he would fail, because he doesn't all that endearing BolEnergy Kenergy that we all know and love;
All of that in a regular +/- 4 min song that taught me 2 new words ( _"Lithany"_ and _"Rivulets"_ ), but didn't sound over verbose! 10/10 for me 😀
*Litany
@@jillsarah7356 true 😅
my boy online breaks his favorite girl is my favorite by far! the chorus is amazing with its vocal layering, it creates an incredibly fitting mood for the message
WE ARE BEING FED BY SWIFTILOGIST!!! Truly thank you so much you just make my weekend so much better!!! ❤❤❤❤
always
Coming back a few days later to say I made a playlist with your track order and listened a couple times through, and I have to say it works really well! Not only thematically but sonically there’s such an organic progression in the order you put them in. I really love several of the songs that you left off the track list so this isn’t always how I’m going to listen to TTPD but I’ll definitely put on this interpretation of it every once in a while
When you said “Scorpio Taylor” I felt so seen! lol 😂 as a fellow Scorpio, I’ve always felt that she must have some heavy Scorpio placements in her chart. When I googled the first thing I found was Scorpio in Mars, Pluto and ascendant. She also has a lot of Capricorn mixed in which also tends to be a bit vindictive and reactive when hurt. Everyone knows about the scorpions sting, but a Cap will hold a grudge just as long as we scorps will.
I’ve found I like Cassandra a lot more when I think of it as a fictional story about someone who was friends/lovers with “Cassandra” and was ostracized by the same people who killed her. It’s one of my favorites in that light.
This interpretation gags me so hard, I LOVE it
Ooh love this interpretation
Interesting! That song stuck me as a woman’s experience of not being believed.
@@happycommuter3523 it definitely is! In the story I’m imagining, Cassandra was trying to expose the corruption of a powerful family who took her out and Taylor had always maintained that Cassandra was right, which is why she’s ostracized. Then years later when the truth comes out, no one acknowledges it of the suffering they put her and Cassandra through.
Zachary Thank you. I was really struggling to appreciate TTPD, finding I’d tuned out about half way through the track list, so not even really hearing the last tracks. Then I created your suggested track list (I don’t stream) and I am now loving it. It really has been transformational.
THE MOMENT WE ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THANK YOU DIVA 🩷
Justice for How Did it End? 😅
I find it so devastating and beautiful
My top three songs are Chloe or Sam, How Did it End, and I Hate it Here. (Can you tell I’m an evermore girly lol) they’re all so beautiful and fit together so well (after I deleted so high school of course haha)
I honestly think “fresh out the slammer” would be a perfect opening but that would mean cutting so long london entirely and basically picking up where you’re losing me left off (i do like so long london dont get me wrong but i think that exactly story was told with you’re losing me already)
yeah i definitely toyed with that as the opener for a few days
I really liked the re organized track list. You really did a great job with it. I love the story telling aspect of it because as you list the songs (even for the side B Zack Edition), the story/message makes sense!
thank you!! x
Yessssssss, I’ve been waiting for this I’m so ready 🤍🖤🤍
Peter and how did it end are soo good...
AHHHHH SHE PLAYED the alchemy after she said this is my 87th show which is Travis’s number so is it actually about him or did she just do that cuz of the football references
I feel like she wouldn’t play a song about matty Healy for Travis if it was just references but idk
@@MayaLovesCats013 That whole show was specifically for Travis. The whole thing. It was like spying on a private 3.5hr long serenade. When she’s goofy in love the references are unmistakably on the nose level obvious. The Alchemy is for Travis period. Even if the concept came to her initially under Matty (and that’s a big if), she clearly couldn’t get it right until Travis. It’s Travis’ period, between the football references & everything she & Taylor Nation have done surrounding it (football emoji on the listening party stream for example) and specifically referencing it being her 87th show last night before singing it & mashing it with Treacherous. She’s in love with Travis & The Alchemy is ultimately all his.
Besides she followed it up with Begin Again & Paris, just to drive home the point.
@@jessicadangerfield1539okay I am believing it
@@jessicadangerfield1539 No I agree the alchemy was about Travis. I was just saying IF the song was really about Marty I don’t think she would’ve had that speech so I agree with you
omg thank you for answering our calls we needed this🙏
Thank you so much for putting The Black Dog straight into the canon. Although I wish it was more upbeat, I love it so much!
I usually work double shifts on Sunday (in a restaurant to finance my studies) and when I'm finally done, I have food from the kitchen and a video from the swiftologist waiting for me. So yay me!
I hate it here is an absolutely gorgeous song ❤❤
It deserves better from the fandom
Screamed when I got the notification. Absolutely love the EOAS and have listened for 64 hours this year.
I love your track list! Some of the songs you cut are songs that I love, but the story you tell with your track list is great!
I love how high in the ranking you put the Alchemy from what i expwcted ily zachhh❤️
I know I know, you don’t like people disagreeing with you about the Travis songs
But be for real
She just came on stage yesterday announced her 87th show (his jersey number)
Then proceeded to play the alchemy while staring at him the whole time
I’ve always thought it was about Travis , but there was some small doubt created by people like you
But that’s over with now
Admit defeat, the Tayvis crusaders won this battle
And let’s move on
LOL, Taylor recontextualizes her songs all the time (ex Cardigan “this song is about you, you know who you are), that doesn’t change a song’s actual origin. The Alchemy only sounds like a Tayvis song if you take the football reference literally. The song describes coming back to someone she’s had a thing with for a while, which is not Travis. Also Travis is not the kind of guy who makes deliberate spelling puns.
@@xqueenfrostine oh so you KNOW what kind of guy Travis is huh?? 🤔 lol. Oh and you also know what Taylor meant when she wrote it ? 🤔 wow! What access you have to them both! 😂. It ONLY sounds like a football song that she said his football 🏈 # before she sang it with him there because of your inside knowledge and actually its really about Ratty?? Give me a break
This is why I LOVE YOU! You nailed it with this ranking.
yaayyy our opinions about ttpd align a lot! been waiting for this video
I love your takes, even when I don’t necessarily agree with them all of them time. But you did not miss with your ranking! I may have shifted a couple of the songs up or down one category, but damn this is a great ranking!
thank you
thank you aimee, cassandra (mad woman did it better) and robin should've stayed in that vault FOREVERMORE! hard agree, loved the tracklist. here's my version based on my point of view of the album's aesthetic and lore:
1. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
2. loml
3. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
4. Down Bad
5. So Long, London
6. But Daddy I Love Him
7. Fresh Out The Slammer
8. Guilty as Sin?
9. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?
10. The Black Dog
11. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
12. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
13. I Hate It Here
14. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
15. Peter
16. How Did It End?
17. The Prophecy
18. Clara Bow
(it HURT me to remove the albatross as an evermore girlie but i don't think she fits the lore in my head, like just publish evermore : the long pond studio sessions and add there as a bonus track 😭😭 the alchemy sounds exactly like the sound i thought this album would be but the bridge part ruins it for me bc i hate football metaphors so i choose being a hater over the art. also title track is one of the weakest tracks on the album so i'd name the album 'the prophecy' i guess)
But does Mad Woman have any lyric as insane as “blood’s thick but nothing like a payroll” no it doesn’t
I know Robin gets so much hate but just seeing how many people connect with it because it reminds them of their own children I understand it’s purpose on the album.
I love listening to you talk about I Hate It Here because I'm not a big fan. Mixing phrases like "finance guy" and "lunar valleys in my mind" creates a tone that feels awkward and disjointed to me. BUT I love how you explain what you love about it, and this is the only corner of swiftiedom that I feel can think and be critical at this level and not just mindlessly trying to find agreement on all things. So, thanks for the great work as always!