Inside the NHS as staff say future hangs in the balance
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2023
- The NHS was launched in 1948 by Aneurin Bevan, inspired in part by the medical aid society in his constituency.
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It has since saved the lives of millions and inspired other national health systems around the world. Seventy five years on the Guardian's Maeve Shearlaw, Andrew Gregory and Adm Sich got access inside the NHS services in its birthplace of Tredegar in South Wales, and found residents, patients and staff still proud of Bevan's legacy, but anxious about the future.
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The used-and-abused of nurses is a reality for those in the US as well. I believed they were more respected in the UK. How sad. I send them my love and support❤
GERRY AND THE PACE MAKERS ??????
It amazes me how the nurses in A and E always manage to be so nice!
@@joannesaltfleet2071 indeed
Nurses in the US make more than twice as much and can always find another job. NHS nurses can't.
@@zippymufo9765 money is not the main reason why people become nurses nor is income the reason why they quit their careers.
Powerful video - the NHS is irreplaceable and a literal lifesaver for millions of people. The decline of the service that's been allowed/encouraged by successive governments is beyond shameful.
Decline due to miss management, greed and wokeness.
@alanholmes7549 I think you spelt Tories wrong.
@@SpeakHearSeeNoEvilThey are not completely responsible for mismanagement.
@@alanholmes7549***Austerity, privatisation and outsourcing
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I'm a parent carer of serious mental illness sufferer and I'm 100% convinced after many experiences that that part of the NHS definitely needs reform and investment, the low standards and expectations of the staff are a serious problem that must be increasing costs.
100% agree, the support for mental health is so thin and so many hoops to jump to access it too, not sustainable or particularly helpful at all.
Mental health is consistently under-funded and over-subscribed in countries across the world, it's not simply a phenomenon of the NHS. It accounts for one of the largest needs across the Service and receives less than half of what it needs to function effectively. As the funding crisis continues, we may see MH services suffer further, particularly with cuts to beds for chronic care.
We come to our GE next year, consider voting for a party that will ensure funding for the NHS, it was one of the country's foundation principles of the 20th century; we once had a health service that was the envy of the world and I believe we can do again.
@@Jablicek I wont be voting Labour or Conservative, Labour has committed to the Conservative Party's tax and spend framework and many other Conservative policies, we have democratic rights in the UK but first past the post and a rightwing media ensures that the establishment always wins. I'm not convinced about the total dependency on new money to take the service forwards because there wont be any new money, breaking the vicious circle of not doing enough effective work after the first mental health crisis which leads to more crises and added costs would be more cost effective and a better experience for the patients.
@@richardfinnigan7458 Oh, agreed! Starmer's taking Labour down a "centrist" path that doesn't really fit with their history. We need another proper leftist party to be not only a balance to the others, but as an alternative to the politics we have now that are shifting further right.
And it's not only about "voting left", it's social programmes that benefit us all, taxes that don't disproportionately affect the poorest, an interest rate that does the same - where to begin? What is to be done, as they say.
Being a carer feels so helpess when looking after mental health and chronic health issues, the staff constantly gaslight you and redirect you where it feels it's up to yourself to fix the patient which is almost impossible when you can't earn enough money
When Osborne was Chancellor under Cameron he began selling NHS services to private contractors. It's a practice that's expanded since that time, and it will continue until the NHS exists as a privately-funded service the NHS banner - Bevan's vision in name only. There's a way to fix this but it means voting for parties that will actually fund the Service appropriately.
For those that work for the NHS my heart goes out to you all. From the outside it appears as an abusive relationship; we appreciate you but that doesn't put food on the table, allow you enough time to see your family, or give you the stability you need.
the sevice is fine its the government thats the crisis
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The country's population is expanding too rapidly. Limiting immigration and stopped illegal immigration would help many of the problems facing the country.
Same in Greece. Our national health care system collapsed and the founder turns in his grave.
Indeed, it's terrible, quite disgusting ✋✌
Funny because the brits used to complain about Greece after 2007 and being part of the EU and helping Greece financially.
Now the UK is in the same situation. 🤣
Close the tax loopholes that the ultra wealthy exploit. Use this extra revenue to properly fund the NHS, and to give all the staff a descent pay rise. Which they absolutely deserve!
Tax the rich? Wow what a unique idea no one has ever had this thought before...
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Well if we actually bloody did it
We could have fully functioning public services, that millions of us rely on.
@@kylemccormack1785 So why isn't it happening? The rich are getting richer in this country, they are the only ones doing well so make them pay
@@kylemccormack1785Used to work.
What amount of money is considered 'ultra wealthy' ?
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Everyone in the UK should be terrified of the NHS collapsing. For comparison healthcare in the US is a complete disaster that leaves people without proper care, insane bankruptcy inducing bills or often both. Pharmacy companies have the entire industry by the throat and are charging sky high prescription drug prices just because they can. You don’t want to live without a safety net and be in a position where you’ll be denied care. People frequently go to Canada or Mexico for prescription drugs because they literally can’t afford them in the USA. Many people don’t have a dentist or accessibility to specialists because it’s not covered by their insurance. Why people would wish for the NHS to fail is beyond me.
The health service collapsed many years ago!
I was diagnosed with an ingrowing toenail, bish bash bosh, my doctor removed the toenail, dressed it and I was on my way in under 15 minutes.
30 years on I’ve developed same problem on the other foot, just been told it’s a 3 and a half year wait to get it done on the nhs
If we regress any further we’ll be hunting doctors because they are witches 🤯🤷🏻♂️
What is “bish bash bash”?
@@rachelk7555 Indicating the completion of a task with efficiency.
Same here. New mojo: "Go private"
Great service, just force to fail due to cuts
The most expensive and under perfoming health service in Europe, more managers than beds
So much misinformation in this one comment.
We spend a slightly less then average amount on healthcare then the rest of western Europe. And generally remember most of Europe has less obesity and diabetes so have cheaper populations to treat.
We have far less managers then any private company of a similar size. Most ‘managers’ are actually part time clinical staff.
@@Bringon-dw8dx My god where do you get your information from, you obviously work in the public sector, nobody in the NHS would last 5 minuetes in the private sector, NHS is full of people employed for every reason except merit
@@kevinmcdonagh5358 you are woefully misinformed. All eu nations spend more of their gdp on healthcare, wise up
The money in the health service goes to managers!
It's just as bad on the other side of the pond and we pay for our healthcare
Create separate geriatric, obesity, and diabetes centres to remove the bottlenecks and sack all the project managers and useless middle managers..
I can't believe that the UK pharmacies and hospitals have not changed one bit in 20 years (or more). We have automated systems where a pharmacist logs into a nation-wide prescription system, the customer says what medicine they want, the pharmacist clicks on the prescription and the automated shelving system fetches the medicines and they land on the tray. The pharmacist can also ask for a renewal of the prescription at that point.
Years ago I used to work in prescription pricing and they were moving onto a system called the electronic transfer of claims.
More drugs faster
Not the answer
God bless nhs workers
Most are not fit for purpose, we need a new European model
@@kevinmcdonagh5358 There's alot of obesity amongst healthcare staff, even the younger ones. No wonder the uptick with diabetes and cardiovascular disease.
@@kevinmcdonagh5358 How does that change the people working in the health service? Do you think all the current doctors and nurses will disappear and be replaced by new people? It will be all the same people but suddenly shareholders profits become the main objective because a conservative government will not regulate the providers to the same level they are regulated in Europe
The NHS situation reminds me a lot of our postal service here in the United States. There are powerful Forces inside and outside of the government who are trying to kill these agencies by death from 1000 cuts, and they are succeeding. Unfortunately, there is a pattern in democratic countries where the people seem to be voting against their own self interest and it is now going to be difficult to Change direction. But one thing I want my friends across the pond to understand, do not be fooled by people telling you the American system is better. It is a disaster for most of us and benefits a small handful of people. And it will only get worse as our politicians succeed in pulling out the safety nets that would have protected people who lose their health coverage when they lose their job.
From the US, it seems like single-payer systems are necessary but not sufficient. But we always need to prioritize investing in them. (When living in the UK, I did not have even vaguely adequate healthcare. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
I worked on a company placement from South Africa to Toronto. I developed strep throat but was refused treatment/antibiotics until tests confirmed bacterial infection. I drove to emergency at 3am 1 week later in acute pain with a fever and they sent me home to take Tylenol. 2 days later the doctor called to confirm strep throat and offer a prescription 9 days after seeking help. Three days later I was back in emergency and diagnosed with pneumonia. The bacteria had moved to my lung. To this day I have never felt such pain and humiliation at begging for help in a "first world" country. I was totally traumatised.
Sad music proves everything.
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Not many young faces in the staff either...
Is that surprising? Would you invest £60,000 in further education to earn £28k? Most young people have seen NHS staff have their pay frozen for the last 14 years and still get blamed for everything. That's not going to be attractive to them is it?
@@stevec6427 more like 38k now with all the strikes.
Problem now is there’s no such thing as blanket coverage for all illness/health.
My example in the last 18 months had major surgery that saved my life and if was in USA as an example would have cost upwards of £40/50 thousand to implement.On the other hand simple procedures the NHS no longer carry out and just last week opted for some private medical assistance as not available son NHS. Other problems a large ageing population putting increasing pressure on the NHS.
Add in Brexit,the Poor pay in the NHS and privatisation by the back door.Something has to radically change otherwise I don’t see a long term future for the NHS as we know it.
Why do people always compare it to the USA, compare it to France, Germany, Holland Denmark Sweden etc etc etc
@@kevinmcdonagh5358 I agree. Incidentally, I've lived in the US and their health care system is nothing to aspire to. It's expensive and if you get an illness not covered by your policy then you are almost guaranteed to end up bankrupt
NHS workers have delivered inadequate care for decades.
And regarding staff they need to be paid far more
I'm sick and tired of people rubbishing the NHS. they are lucky they have this free service. I personally have received superb treatment. so just stop moaning and be grateful.
Decades of increasingly poor management and allocation of funding was never going to have a positive impact.
They been getting funding up the wazoo for years, neigh on decades wtf are you talking about? its a huge drain 🤣
@@AL-nv4gkRead my comment again, you've clearly failed to understand it. Take your time and think about the wording...I mention the allocation of funding, not a lack of funding.
Let's just chalk this misunderstanding down to a reading comprehension issue on your part.
Privileged? 10,000 a year national insurance i pay.. tell you what stop robbing that and i can go private.. 🤬🤬🤬
*Let's just appreciate how much of work and time he put into these videos 💘💘*
What’s the point of spending huge amounts of money on training doctors who end up doing part time work, say a couple of mornings per week seeing a very few patients, whilst they rear their young and never do full time work?
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I was at the hospital one day when an elderly lady was being taken to X-ray,,she was laying on her bed pushed by I assume to be a nurse but that was wrong ,, she kept asking to use the loo,, and the lady who had brought her to X-ray kept telling her she’d have to wait or you’ll be late if I take you back now,,,, the elderly lady ended up wetting herself ,,, I was so mad and disgusted at this woman’s behaviour,,, if you really don’t care don’t get a job where you have to care for others,,,,,, That’s the NHS
Some people are just nasty by nature…
I don't think it's nasty. They're under so much pressure and it's likely that if they didn't get to the xray on time, it wouldn't happen that day because they're fully booked so the lady wouldn't get potentially essential treatment for another day. I don't know that this was the case but it seems like a likely scenario
its the system that has failed us and it will keep on doing so until there's a new way of govern, old politics out of practice values and handshakes to the maddening crowds....
@@stevec6427 I was sat in the waiting room adjacent to the room the lady was being taken,,she was held on wait on her bed for a good 5mins by the ward assistant I believe,,who wasn’t very nice in return when the lady continued to ask if she could use the loo,, when the nurse came out of the X-ray room to take the lady through she explained that she had requested to use the loo but had been made to wait and unfortunately she hadn’t been able to hold herself any longer,, the nurse was lovely in her response and no doubt helped her ,,, it was the attitude of the lady that had been responsible for taking her to X-ray,,, not only did she have a nasty attitude but her face was just as nasty in the looks she was giving this elderly lady… if it’s going to make you feel like that then it’s not the job for you…
That’s not anyone’s fault.
If she’s in a hospital bed she’s probably not safe to mobilise on her own to the toilet (generally we use wheelchairs for people that are more mobile). Random porters are certainly not legally covered to take random old ladies to the toilet.
If she fall and died in the bathroom, which isn’t uncommon, you would be blaming the porter for that.
It’s not pleasant but what they did was safer
@@Bringon-dw8dx lovely attitude’ random old lady’ NO SHE WAS A PATIENT,,,
don’t give me that crap ,,if the elderly lady was booked in for an X-ray (which you have to be,, can’t all turn up at once) then she would have known the time she needed to go down and could have checked before leaving her room ,, it’s not hard to take into consideration that the elderly need to be reminded sometimes ,, just like children,,,, that’s the business of CARING….
So shove your attitude where the sun doesn’t shine…
I don’t know what hospital you work at but it seems your like many,, need to feel needed and important but moan like fck at the reasons people need help,,,,
It seems if you need emergency surgery you get it. However if it’s elective you have to wait ages however some if not most elective turns into emergency surgery
Here,,, maybe because health care… the NHS was so… massive… so I’m so worried about the data…
The biggest problem with UK Healthcare is the fact that you can't opt out of the NHS.
Yes private care is readily available but go that route and you end up paying twice.
Rubbish,you can now choose to opt out or opt in to share data from your GP surgery.
Crap. Nonsense spouted so I have to correct you. Private healthcare cost is irrelevant, I spent £1000 on medical reports from private surgeries which made my fckng day, compared to useless, impotent NHS crap.
@@sassysam6998 I do know the cost of private health care. If I could opt out of the NHS I would happily pay it.
I agree.. just would opt out ro be honest..
Yeah? imagine how the users feel. Some pay a lot of money for a non-existent service. I wonder why no-one in the world copies the NHS? About time for a complete re-think.
13 years ago patient satisfaction was at its highest and the nhs was one of the best in the world. Now what's happened since... 13 years of tory underfunding and lack of nurses and doctors plus covid and brexit
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Tory bullsh
The NHS is immoral and a waste of money
What? Needle exchange for drug addicts? Why are they not in prison?
The NHS is a complete dump.
The policies by government have to address the fundamental differences between the generation that was and the generation that is and will be. Our grandparents and parents could afford a home, pay taxes and be granted healthcare on the NHS. However, our generation now can not afford homes, have to pay higher taxes AND also manage more elderly people who are living longer. These older people stay in their own homes longer, and need care by the NHS for longer. What they paid into their pensions back then, does it really cover the costs of spending right now? Providing lifelong “free” medicines for Diabetes for example actually takes away the responsibility and fear of developing that disease. We know that medicines are not always expensive to develop. Surely people can pay some amount to their own medicines and doctor’s fees. We need people to take responsibility for their own health, and to realise that not doing so will have consequences: physical AND financial.
I THOUGHT YOU VOTED BREXIT
Think it was designed to treat 45-50 million people. Not 67-68 million. Hence the problem.
The problem is not a higher population, but a higher migrant population.
The nhs is not exactly the best example of how to provide healthcare for everyone imo.
What is better?
@@yuglesstube Any European country
@kevinmcdonagh5358 OK, I agree. But Britain is a failed state, and for decades the NHS was very good. Our system in Australia is good, but also starting to struggle. That said, America is terrible
The doctors aren't exactly the brightest of sparks either, with the reports I have.😅😂😅. The standards and culture of healthcare is totally inferior compared to France, where I also live.
Hmm I’m not too sure if I would rate French doctors that highly either, after having seen their clinical work first hand.
If earning £100K a year is considered underpaid then I'm not sure what the height of entitlement is any more. Why can't everyone just be happy.
£100k an year is underpaid when you can go to Ireland to do the job and get paid €280k, or go to Australia or the USA and get $380.
Also junior doctors start on £14.08 an hour, that’s certainly underpaid
MPs earn more for what i can make out is sitting yapping,lying and fiddling whatever they can,chase the real enemy🤷♂️
@@Bringon-dw8dx 100k an HOUR is not bad ìs it?
@@GG-ml3vr haha corrected it
No Help Service
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Why is this government department so worshipped like some cult??
Fair play to the nurses and staff they don't make a song and dance about it ..oh
The health service is always in crisis and has been for years!
Waste of time this. Avoids as usual the actual subject, just a series of chat with staff. The problem is it's been re-written by government and no longer the service originally promised. And the public failed to have a revolution when the govt changed the contract ten years ago. Its gone, just Emergency Hospital care and first tier minimal GP service. Gone.
I find it interesting that there are no nurses or doctors on strike outside the private hospitals e.g. Spire in Cardiff. I wonder if it's because the Private Hospitals are efficient, well managed businesses that do not waste money, and also do not require endless amounts of money being thrown at them. The problem with the NHS is the management - no responsibility and no targets. It started to fail when they did away with matrons!
No its because the strikes only balloted annex 1 nhs employees. But you keep wondering eh?
Because they have lots of money?? Its about capacity
Also, it's since meaningless targets have been introduced in the NHS and it's started to be run more like a business that things have started to fall apart...
Another few reasons why it doesn't happen outside private hospitals is because they pay alot more to begin with, the workload isn't as stressful/the same (By that, I mean they tend to care for fitter patients compared to NHS hospitals as well as they tend to do just elective care) Private hospitals can also admit whoever they want, NHS Hospitals if you show up at the door, they cannot really not see you unless they direct you to another appropriate place.
And when the NHS employees get pay rises, the private hospitals tend to increase their salary further anyway.
Yhe Nhs is terminally ill. Killed off by the Tories and the greed of Nhs middle men.
Lack of investment into our health care, dentists, schools. I've had better care in third world countries for less. My children have sat in spacious, well equipped schools in thirdxworld countries. Brits have got used to suchow standards. We have fallen down the world league tables wrt education.
The NHS has become a burden that pays salaries and delivers poor care. All the government does is collect immigrants to tax without reinvestment and thereby adding pressure to an already bad system.
Long live the Tories! Long live boris Johnson and the £350 millions a week for the NHS!
Still proud of the socialist health service? lol
She can’t imagine doing anything else because…she can’t imagine.
NHS is not going to work with the ageing population and more people being here .
Your title covers most employees in the country but if most employees fell so far short of target they would be looking for a new job. No one is forcing people to work in the NHS. If they do not like it they should leave and get a job somewhere else instead of taking money and letting down patients because they think they are the only ones that want better pay and conditions.
Get a job somewhere else? Like where?
@@risingphoenix8072 There are plenty of private health care facilities they could work for if they are qualified and do not like the NHS.
@@JerryWalker001 okaaaaay….
@@JerryWalker001there isn’t. The NHS has a monopoly on doctors pre-CCT.
That’s why they go abroad, because there isn’t the opportunity for much (if any) private practice
@@JerryWalker001 what a great idea and then there would be no drs and nurses to treat patients, what a great idea, not!
Is the NHS fit for purpose? Why is the taxpayer being forced to fund it?
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Well, the NHS voted for Conservatives and brexit, so you only have yourselves to blame. It deserves to LEAVE forever.
A completely voluntary choice, a incredible wage and job security unlike any other. Nurses are some of the most entitled brats on the planet. Complain complain complain....
What the actual f
Incredible wage? Nursing is the lowest paid profession in the UK which requires a degree qualification. Most professions requiring a degree will pay well above £40,000 within 10 years of graduation, nurses can expect £35,000 if they're lucky but out of that, they'll be paying around £2000 a year in student loan repayments and around £2500 a year just to park at work so really they're paying the tax of a £35,000 salary but only really getting £30,000
@@stevec6427 And every single nurse knows that going into the profession. Where does a Nurses salary come from in a public monopoly on health care? That's right, workers pockets.
@@kylemccormack1785 "What's that? You want to go into a profession to help other people and treat the sick? You entitled brat, take your shit wage and LIKE IT"
And now the quiet sound of crickets reigns amidst the angsty confused socialists.