How Much I Earn as a Doctor in the UK | NHS Junior Doctor Salaries
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Money and medicine, who talks about that, right? Growing up and even in med school, it was all about the passion, the drive to save lives, and definitely not the pounds in the bank(it still is that way). But hey, after reading “Psychology of Money” by Morgan Housel and “Money: A Users Guide” by Laura Whateley, my eyes popped a bit. Money isn’t a villain; it’s a tool, and a dang useful one to live a little easier!
So, let's chew the fat over what junior doctors in the UK really pull in, and yeah, I’m gonna spill the beans on my own payslip, no secrets here. The term "junior doctor" here in the UK is a wide net, catching everyone who isn’t a consultant, aged anywhere between 23 and 60. But let’s keep the lens on the trainee doctors' pay scale today, and let those consultants wait their turn for another chat.
My payslip, base pay, hours, extra premium, tax, pension, and what I actually get to spend. Oddly, no tax this month. Dunno why, but a friendly note from HMRC says they’ll be grabbing that back soon - cheers :((
Another payslip, from a 1st year GP trainee, tells another tale, not a particularly happy ending though. Getting into the nitty-gritty - Starting off, a fresh outta school Foundation 1 Year Doctor gets £29,384/year base pay. But throw in some nights, weekends, and on-call duties, and “enhanced rate pay” and “weekend allowance” will toss a few more coins in the purse. And yeah, specialists like neurosurgeons may pull in more but kiss those sweet weekends and serene nights goodbye.
Doctors usually see a pay rise as they climb the experience ladder, from F2 doctors to ST1/ST2 to ST3-5, and ST6-8, with each level having its own base pay and added perks depending on the hours and specialty. And all the doctors fighting the good fight in pricey London get an extra “London Weighting” to help manage those steep living costs.
Now “locum shifts,” that’s where some quick cash can come in, with 2-3x the base pay. Some mates of mine doing full-time locum work are raking in between 80-120k a year, not too shabby!
But remember folks, the taxman cometh, and he’s taking a hefty slice of that pie. Still, when stacking UK junior doctors against US and Indian residents, our deal isn’t too rough. But dream of swimming in gold coins Scrooge McDuck style, and you’re in for a letdown. So, what do you think? Fair pay or short change for all those years and hefty education tabs?
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⚡️Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:25 Why am I making this video?
01:57 Who is a “junior doctor”?
02:57 My payslip and breakdown
07:25 Rest of the pay scale and recent hikes
08:34 Foundation Year 1 (FY1) doctors’ salary, enhanced rate and weekend allowance
11:47 Foundation Year 2 (FY2) doctors’ salary
12:47 Specialist Trainee Year 1 and 2 (ST1-2) doctors’ salary + GP Premium
14:31 ST3-5 Doctors’ salaries
15:10 ST6-8 Doctors’ salaries
15:54 Locum shifts and taxes
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@@anyone510no he isn't 😂
How much does India pay dr's?.. if they pay more go back..
I earn way more than u in month as hgv driver £43000
I work as a lorry driver , passing a driving test and earn around 65k a year being home every night and working about 50hrs/week . The pay is seriously a joke for the years spent studying and learning . So you need to learn for about 10 years to earn 60k a year .... that is a joke seriously ... you can`t start a family until you are over 40 .
May I ask what company do you work for, sounds brilliant?
I retired as a doctor and started investing in the stock market because of dividends. What matters, in my opinion, is that if you invest and earn more money in addition to dividends, you will be able to live off of dividends without selling. It implies that you can pass that on to your children, giving them a head start in life. I've invested over $600k in dividend stocks over the years; I continue to buy more today and will continue to do so until the price lowers even further.
It's always inspiring to hear from a veteran doctor and investor who has weathered the storm and come out on top. When your portfolio turns from green to red, it might be unsettling, but if you have invested in great companies, you should just keep adding to them and stick with your plan.
I wholeheartedly concur, which is why I appreciate giving an investment coach the power of decision-making. Given their specialized expertise and education, as well as the fact that each and every one of their skills is centered on harnessing risk for its asymmetrical potential and controlling it as a buffer against certain unfavorable developments, it is practically impossible for them to underperform. I have made over 1.5 million dollars working with an investment coach for more than two years
How can one get in touch with these advisor? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances
Would love to have a colleague like Doctor A in the USA. During my residency, I made $51,000 year 1 , $56,000 year 2, $62,000 year 3 $81,000 year 4 final year $103,000. My first year out of residency I made close to $500,000 in New York weekdays at the hospital and weekends my own consulting via online for sport athletes and hormones .
Please teach me
Which speciality please
How old were you when u finished were finished with residency
Nice to know I failed school no grades no secondary education started working in construction at 16 and I earn more than a junior doctor a lot more! Surely this shouldn't be, I work with materials you work with peoples lives!
It’s because doctors get paid a lot more with alot less work when they become a consultant
But the drs know the pay before go into to it
When he becomes a speciality doc he'll be earning 100x more than u lmaoooo
@@adhwaithlaiju8470 "when" I own a construction company now and also have a extensive property portfolio so if he's going to earn 100x more he's going to be a very wealthy man congratulations 👏
If you develop thrombosed hemorrhoids this doctor will treat u
Thank you doc ! very insightful !
Fantastic video with many important informations. Thanks a lot for your hard work.
Very informative. Thank you doctor!
To match his original pay slip I had to work around 60 hours in a factory on 12 hour continental (quad) shift, semi skilled macinist with chemicals and heavy manual duites too. I say this just for comparison.
For people who are intereted in knowing about salary of US IM doctors, is is as:
During residency it is 57000$ PGY1 to 64000$ PgY-3.
But after PGY-3 in IM, one becomes an attending and pay shoots up to 400,000$ per year working 5 days a week as a hospital doctor.
what do you mean by im doctors? internal medicine?
Yes
Lucid concise explanation...i loved the tunderbolt from your last statement concerning the fact that residents in US & India work almost double the hours as in the UK ...rather adds a fresh perspective about relative remuneration !!
That's what junior doctors in the UK worked before the new contracts were agreed, sometimes up to 100 hours. All the basic, admin and menial work they did is now pushed onto nurses.
A lot of the commenters miss the fact that these are very highly paid government jobs, you have little chance of being downsized or fired, and you have even better pensions than most private sector employees. If you work as a doctor, you are at least guaranteed a comfortable living and a very comfortable pension, which is better than nearly every other career.
I personally think nurse bursaries should be reinstated, and nurse numbers enhanced.
The NHS needs a government enquiry into where the money is going, and I am guessing a lot is going on trust board members and other management types. Personally, I would like to see a huge push into increasing nurse and care worker numbers, which would ease the overall burden on the NHS immensely.
I personally think doctors and nurses should be paid more,
I am very grateful to DRs and nurses who come to the uk and work / study to work for NHS, and those who train others to become doctors and nurses,
I had an very nice consultant who is from India to remove my gallbladder and he was also teaching too,
Their work is very important and should be appreciated. However their pay ultimately comes from taxation. Any government is faced with the same basic choices, either cut spending or raise taxation. The chancellor can alter both of course, what is changed depends on their political philosophy and how they think it will benefit society and the economy best. Considerations also depend on global conditions and how they may affect events in the near future. I may be mistaken but this is basically how I understand things. So that said, what would you do to enable them to be paid more?
@@rob5944 unfortunately there are pros and cons to all ideas I have on how to find funding,
However I believe if all the money we all pay via taxes was properly managed on all things, we can find the money to fund doctors pay, the government found a way to fund there pay increase and waste billions despite expert warnings on things like HS2 costing billions more than originally stated it would,
the PPE scandal just a couple that springs to mind
what about 2nd year of internship in UK as we only have one year of internship in Pakistan..so can we give MRSA with only one year of internship in Pakistan?
I love saying me being a 11th grader! You are such a great inspiration to me..i going the med school to uk pathway! Would love to give you a applause, keep up the work doc❤..much love..
Thanks Shaurya, good luck!
plz give a video on expenses too
Dr.A could you make a video on “how to build your CV as a med student in india.” what all can a med student in india, with limited opportunities do to decorate their cv for UK
Sir i am doing mbbs in india , will i be self sufficient since foundation or will i have to depend on my parents for it ? Because that will be a deciding factor
It Might be fair to suggest that Promotion/upgradatipn to CONSULTANT LEVEL Salary, within a fixed time frame will attract Doctors to live decently!
With the recent inflation in uk is this salary sufficient ?
Please clarify about tax doctor, how much is the tax in uk for doctors please explain
Okay but Doc A, more importantly for fresh out of med school students like me.... How good is the training in nhs?
Ignoring the working hours, is it worth the extra time and money to move to UK compared to NEET PG. I'm having a very hard time deciding this.
Even me
If you are a good doc in India, you will earn 2-3 times more post PG if you join private practice.
@@andromeda6985 no , underpaid overworked situation in India , uk , australia you are paid much , also on the basis of hours you put on .
Quite interesting though
Looks my country is crazy with its training program though...Internship(FY1) week 8 you are doing major surgical procedures assisted by your seniors.
Bro pls make a video about plab and its complete procedure how much expenses it will take.
@doctor A
Could you please tell the entire process of moving to UK for a post MBBS student
Kindly mention salary of nurse there. What is the procedure for coming there
This is why there is a shortage of doctors in the UK! The pay even for a trainee is unfairly low.
Hii sir im from hyd and i want to know that pursuing masters of pharmaceutical science course in uk or canada which is best suggest me sir pls
How do doctors travel at junior level? They afford cars or public transport
It’s not just about recruitment,it’s about retention and workload so for starters the salary is no where near good enough considering the training involved so a substantial increase is the baseline then after that the workload has to be addressed in order to keep them.
Junior doctors burning out already is unacceptable.
Doctors make 10x the average salary after they are finished with their junior roles. They shouldn't complain.
@@jimj2683 That isn't true you should really search up how much uk doctors make. It's the reason so many are leaving to work in Canada/America
Sir you explain good. Plz make a video on different routes of residency in uk. Still confused between foundation year 1 & 2, core training, speciality training, consultant and run through training. Plz explain sir
I'm planning a full series on moving to the UK. Should be ready in a couple of months :)
@@DoctorAmedicine ohh yes! Thanks
@@DoctorAmedicine Sir plz make it! I'm really waiting for it ❤❤
Can junior doctors in training jobs work locum shifts?
By being kannadathi and watching ur Instagram post i felt really happy and proud ... at the same time happy for u and ur family .. thanks for guiding this is much needed video for me as I am planning to give plab ..
I have completed my pharmD (doctor of pharmacy) am i eligible for junior doctor in UK
I had a letter from the tax office saying that i under paid the previous year which was about £64 that I could pay this or they were going to alter my tax code so it would be paid
Is this permonth salary? How much you got after tax?
Hi doc
I'm about to finish my first year in mbbs in India and I grew up in the uk. I do want to pursue my post graduation in uk. I just wanted to ask if my university marks are going to matter in getting selected for specialty training.....because I read somewhere that there are higher chances of getting selected if you get above 70% in university finals.
Why on earth u studied in india?
Everyone with little bit of money goes abroad to study
Not true, different specialities have different portfolios that you need to fill. You university scores would accumulate like maybe 5% of overall criteria and that too in like one or few of the specialities.
I'm imdian and thinking why the heck he studied in India? I'm in med school dream is to go to Australia
Dr A, Could you pls do a video on your work experience (& clinical gaps if any) in India ?
I worked for 4 months as medical editor in Marrow, started work in Neurosurgery and ENT just 15 days before the pandemic, so had to take a break. Then helped my dad in his clinic during the pandemic. Moved to UK in 2021. Did 9 months of Emergency Medicine and then 8 months of Colorectal surgery in London. Now a GP trainee in Cambridge
@@DoctorAmedicine thanks Dr. A!
To all the people saying the salary is too low, would you be willing to pay more tax to fund any pay rises?
Everyone will be willing to pay more taxes when all the doctors start moving to the US
@@viniciusbarbosa1901 I have never known anyone willing to pay more tax
Aldi store is offering £17 per hours, with bonus and good life and work balance. You don't need any academic qualifications, no student loan debts, no night rotas, no bullying (important if you're female as NHS has been found to be a workplace full of bullies and sexual predators). You can also rise to management positions in Aldi and earn more than consultants and not worry about litigations for killing someone because the NHS supplied crap equipment.
2700 GBP is monthly net pay ?
What about the accommodations and meals for the junior doctors ?
Make a video on australia doctor salary
Make one on your expenses too
Yes, coming up soon!
Remember, Doctors have a guaranteed career until retirement and their future earning potential and pension are considerable - far more than an HGV driver. Also hourly rates are a poor methods of comparison for professionals. In my working life I worked whatever hours were necessary to complete the task. There was no time for 'clock-watching' and it never crossed my mind to do it.
Why did HMRC deduct twice your tax amount for only one month? Especially as it wasn’t your fault. We’re able to get it recovered?
These sort of errors are more usually down to the employer. HMRC provides the formula (annual tax code) and the employer deducts the tax, not HMRC
Ok, now i understand why you are striking. I know idiots working on IT who make better pay than this in UK.
How much Money is needed to live comfortably in London, according to you? Or anybody, for that matter? Very helpful video btw thanks a lot😊
2000 pounds
Doctors need better compensation all over the world .. the amount of sway and blood that goes into making 1 is obviously brutal
7:10 Thank me in advance
😂😂🎉
Thanks buddy
Shocking salary. I wanted to do medicine last year and worked out with student debt and loans, it would cost between £200,000-£250,000 for me to qualify to earn this terrible salary
Sir please make video on nurses salary in uk
Nice video
Wow, that makes my head spin. Before I retired as a pediatric dentist in the United States I worked on a fee for service basis. This was a private non governmental group practice. Ignoring taxes, my take home was approximately 45% of production. Our overhead was about 55%. I spent 8 years in university, paying privately for my education, beginning in 1960. I spent 2 years in mandatory government service (military obligation). Actual $$ amounts would be too confusing due to inflation. I retired after 30 yrs in this practice . My retirement was financed by personal savings,and investments, and the sale of my private practice. The fees in my practice were not government controlled and were based on prevailing fees in my area. Most of my patients had some sort of private dental insurance. I am very grateful and blessed to have practiced at the time in a non socialized medicine environment that the world seems to be moving toward.
Where is ur father's clinic?address please.🌻
But what I don’t like is if you earn 50k you are taxed 40%. So your salary would remain the Same even if you are more experienced ….
It is better to cry in a Lamborghini than on the streets.
Money matters.
thank you so much doctor
Can i bring my wife as dependent after getting job in nhs after plab
Can a junior doctor maintain all the expenses of him & his wife with his earning in UK?
It's not what you earn it's what you do with what you earn that matters.
Do you need to give some entrances for getting into training?
pass plab1, plab2 exams, register with UK Board, Send CVs, give interviews, get selected
In India, how much will you be paid, mate ???
To say I am shocked at what doctors make is an understatement, I was employed in the railway and had a good wage , having retired now for 18 years I was amazed at what is now being made , an ops supervisor making £60 k . A maintenance supervisor type job , £53 k plus time and a half for o/ t . Plus £10to £15 k yearly bonus bonus. With a little o/t £75to£80 grand possible ?
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And that’s a good thing ,railways workers should be well paid.
Those wages you state are fair ,we should be looking up and fighting for better pay and not a race to the bottom
Do you take vitamin d3 in uk
It's a must otherwise we get sick
1 year expensive and he is earning 40K thats not a bad salary
If I study mbbs foreign after and moved to Uk like You
How can crack plab then whats work I can do there?
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Elli kaane agidde guru est dina ??
Plz clear one thing out of 40000 pounds pay you only get around 3000 per month 😮😮 really
Yes. Then add the expenses! 😂
As an American, I am offended that all of our governments spend so much money on weapons to destroy property and kill people, and don't provide doctors with a base pay which puts them in a position to be able to ignore their finances and concentrate strictly on their job.
O_O Is that all?!! I've heard of cleaners who earned more than that back in 2011!! That makes my blood boil. If the next government don't at least double the amount of facilities, ambulances, beds, etc, then nobody will be able to afford the 'luxury' of consuming anything that causes preventable deaths and diseases. We have to take this deadly seriously, or die in unspeakable ways.
Great job! @ DR..A
Hey plese tell us about your expanses too
i heard in the news that junior doctors earn £60,000.
Are you a real doctor or a blogger ?
Most awaited video 😅😂
Sir what speciality are you doing?
General Practice, it's called Family Medicine in India and US
What's your age?
Wow super low salary for all that training
40257 is per momth or per year?
Annual salary
@@wohooooo7613This is less than a carehome nurses salary by far. £40k is the lowest that carehome nurses get up to £52k per annum . Band 6 NHS nurses get £40k and above. Now I know why you have been striking. The title Dr is just being wasted here. I hope you find a better paying job elsewhere like South Africa, Australia and the US. The grass is not green here .
Whatever you earn it is at least twice what you are worth
I am sure you don't want to swap job with a bricklayer.
Quiting medicine after this.🙁
i was on side but after seeing this, i know its pure greed. go to india and see what they pay you. people in the nhs got it so good.
Hlo sir.
Inspired by you.❤❤❤❤ .
Can you make video on us resident doctors salary.
A detailed video❤❤❤
U. S *
During residency it is 57000$ PGY1 to 64000$ PgY-3.
But after PGY-3 in IM, one becomes an attending and pay shoots up to 400,000$ per year working 5 days a week as a hospital doctor.
how come you earn so less. All my doctor friends in UK are on 100k plus
They may be older than him.
I qualified as a nurse in the UK, after 3 years at university, and had to "guide" junior doctors who worked with me. They come onto the wards as part of the learning process, not as fully competent professionals. Having just passed a driving test does not make you an expert driver. Ditto with doctors. Their long term earnings potential and pension is far greater than that of any nurse yet they expect to arrive on a ward with no experience and get higher salary than a nurse with many years of experience.
Labour will be in soon. You will get much better pay l can assure you.
Are locum shift salaries also taxable? ?
ofcourse
@@sameer-wk4lt how can we save tax ?
After seeing the salary paid by UK govt to doctors , USMLE is much brighter choice even though its hard and challenging but its worth the time as they provide free PG in USA and approx 60lakh rupees per year in foundation years itself and keep rising over the years you work.
uk pg free tooo
Australia is also good
@@johnorton4418 yaa but getting into Australia is difficult than uk. So many img choose uk complete their residency their then move to Australia for better payment
But usmle too tough as u wil be filtered in interview n too many working hrs.per day minimum 12 hrs .sunday also u r supposed to work
@@nirmalakumari4826 also usa is not safe place anymore due to gun culture. Most people doesn't have medical insurance.
Hey Dr Ajay, why you don't choose Australia instead of UK i think there the salary is much higher than uk
Btw love your vedios❤
Snakes!
@@DoctorAmedicine Snakes and sharks, poisonous spiders, fresh and saltwater crocodiles. No thanks.
According to the Office for National Statistics, the median pay in the UK is £2,300 (approx) per month. As you point out, even first year doctors earn more than that, so the pay's literally better than average. That said, there's years of training and a massive debt to also consider. Thanks to that, you probably aren't going to be better off financially for your first few years as a doctor. But after that, you're earning more than twice the median wage and you should be making a comfortable living.
This isn't to say doctors don't deserve their pay. It's a very stressful job and it's vitally important work. For the first few years, I think doctors could say they aren't paid enough for the work they do. But for most of their careers, assuming they can advance their careers and pass the required tests, then they are well paid compared to the general population. Once they get to the consultant level, they're getting three to four times the median pay, which is really quite good.
There are other professions where they might make more money, and possibly deal with less stress while doing so. But especially later in their careers, I think doctors are well compensated for their work.
The average NHS consultant salary is about £123k. This is not fair pay for someone who has had to spend at least 15 years in higher professional training (5y med school + 2y foundation program + 7-8 years specialty training) all while having to move places at every stage, some needing to move every single year. No other profession has this long of a training. No profession even comes close to the number of exams that doctors have to do to get through training.
I have 27 year old friends in tech who make £150k, they went to engineering school for 4 years and that's all the training that they've done. My consultant with 15 years of clinical training + a PhD makes £120k in his 50s, while still working night shifts and weekends.
All of this with the background of huge legal liabilities in case something goes wrong.
So yeah, I do not think doctors at any stage in the NHS are fairly compensated.
@@DoctorAmedicine Forbes reports that Cristiano Ronaldo earned over US$130 million in 2022. He trains very hard, has exceptional talent, and a lot of that money does come from sponsorships. But compared to him, almost everyone else is underpaid. Particularly since he dropped out of school at 14 and most of his income comes from playing a game.
If you want to focus on individuals and compare what they earn to your income, then feel free to use that example. Personally, I hate that approach because I prefer to use more general statistics. Such as the median income I referred to in my previous post. Your consultant is well beyond the 95th percentile (£82.2k in 2021, according to HMRC’s SPI) when it comes to income in the UK. It’s not even close to the 1% (£183k from the same source), but that’s still pretty good.
Let’s put it another way. According to Yahoo News, the average person in the UK earns less than £600k (based on 2022 figures) over the course of their working life. Your consultant would earn that much in 5 years rather than the 40 years it would take most people to get there. Is THAT fair? Actually, I think so. You’ve pointed out exactly why doctors SHOULD receive more money than the average person, and I agree with you. But how much more do you think they should get for their compensation to be “fair”?
@@rodh1404bro , when you’re sick please do call cristiano ronaldo to alleviate your pain ! you don’t respect the hard work / blood sweat and tears we put into this profession to serve others ! the audacity of some people !
@@rodh1404what is fair salary for consultants ?
In usa median salary 50k $ while starting salary of consultants is 300k
So i would say 6× of median is fair ie. Starting salary of consultants should be 30×6=180k £/ year.
Now if nhs dont pay well then they will keep loosing consultants (huge number of consultants already have left)
UAE, new Zealand, Australia takes uk consultants with 350k+ $ /year salary.
@@rodh1404lesser nhs pays more consultants will leave
Too wavery.all could have been just in one slide.basically high time nhs revises minimum doubling.
lot better than india
True, but expenses are significantly higher here as well.
@@DoctorAmedicine residency is peaceful over there
@@manojr611 True
How much is the expenses in a month including everything..like for a decent life..please make a video on that too thanks
The GPs, CEO s of NHS trusts, privatised spin offs, pharmaceutical companies with their rip off drugs are sucking the life blood out of the NHS. Divert this money to junior doctors but tie their contracts so they can't cut and run with their rewards.
It sounds reasonable money, especially wjen there's a decent pension, I had to give up work due to ill health and owe my life to the NHS and modern medicine but their pay has to come from us. To pay them more means something else gets less, at least as far as I can see anyway.
Didn't like video,said ,St3 not a good place to be due tp more responsibility, brother, it will be there, u are saying from your experience, but to a larger people, who look up to find a way for their future so make a video consciously.
So poor you can afford designer shirts. Pay after fully qualified more than makes up for training pay. Now a GP which is basically a doctor that refers patients to specialist. Don't like don't do it.
You do the job that you chose. Knew about the training and probable conditions.. Why moan . So many do hard physically demanding jobs and just have to get on with life.
You missed your absurdly generous pension contributions. Not the ones that come out of your pay - the contributions from the NHS.
Why doesn't this count in "How much I earn"?