JUNIOR DOCTOR VS CONSULTANT SURGEON PAY SLIPS in the NHS 💸 | How much money do NHS doctors make?
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- CORRECTION: At 11:30 I discuss "additional pay" for consultants being for being an educational or clinical supervisor only but it actually is for MANY extra roles this consultant has. This includes things like being clinical director, medical director, surgical lead, educational lead, clinical tutor etc. Essentially, this category of pay represents the additional hours for many roles not just one.
Hi guys, I'm back today with an important video because I think we should talk more openly about our money for transparency and good financial health! What to expect financially from a career in medicine in the NHS? What is the salary progression for doctors? How much do I earn? Answer to all of these questions and many more in this video!! 💸
⏰ Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
00:27 Why am I making this video?
02:08 My junior doctor pay cheque
02:37 Junior doctor salary progression
07:57 Junior doctor final take home salary
08:58 Consultant surgeon pay cheque
09:20 Consultant salary progression
13:50 Consultant surgeon final take home salary
14:08 Additional income and outgoings
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Hey guys!
Just want to point out a CORRECTION: At 11:30 I discuss "additional pay" for consultants being for being an educational or clinical supervisor only but it actually is for MANY extra roles this consultant has. This includes things like being clinical director, surgical lead, educational lead, chief clinical information officer etc. Essentially, this category of pay represents the additional hours for many roles not just one.
@Surina Taneja do locum doctors get £100/hr at ct1 level ?
@@VivekSharma-mx7vf no lol
What does this consultant specifically do in those 4 extra PAs?
Thank you for the video. You Doctors do a great job. In the IT industry the salary is much higher or can be if in Finance IT or in as FTSE company, for less stress. However, good news for doctors is that if your a senior consultant as a physician (I have seen the annual salary of 2 cardiologist, via my good accountant friend). £600,000 to £900,000 annually including private work and they mainly work in London. So experienced MD catch-up if you specialise.
@@FreePizza007 wow - if only other NHS workers were able to command such huge salaries! I actually think that level of income is obscene .
I’m a cleaner with the NHS and earn about £10 per hour in the week, Sundays I earn just over £18 per hour. We get two,half hour unpaid breaks. I can’t believe how little you earn for the amount of responsibility you get
In comparison a PM gets less than half the wage to run and entire country with 60 million people and the entire NHS, is that fair?
@@union310 and in comparison, uk consultants are get less than half of the salary than most of other major countries like canada australia, US.
@@roadbiker8333 Who are private sector workers.
As stated, why so much when compared to others in their industry and why more than double of the person in charge of an entire country?
@@union310 Prime Minister is getting very similar to the consultant pay in this video as they get paid their MP salary plus a separate salary for PM. On top of that they then get various living expenses and other bits too. So maybe still not much compared to a private sector CEO but still 6 or 7 times the average UK salary
@@davep9016 You need to look at what a consultant is really paid over the year.
Also why when I could not be seen by a specialist from the NHS for six months, could I see him the following week privately in the same hospital? Are you able to answer that?
Also why are nurses allowed to work for an agency in another hospital on inflated agency rates at overtime leveles having refused to work in their own hospital?
I think that this is an extremely worthwhile discussion and breaks down the taboo of doctors’ pay in the NHS. As a consultant surgeon of 11 years, probably at the peak of my UK career, I moved overseas to work, a decision I do not regret for one minute. I think that it would helpful if I could explain my journey to this decision.
Firstly, it should be noted that across the UK, many consultants posts remain unfilled sometimes for years on end and hospitals are reliant on very expensive locum consultants costing the service 2-3 times that of regular consultants.
Secondly, I do not expect anyone reading this to think I’m looking for sympathy, not at all. I’m just explaining my situation (and that of many others I suspect) which partly explains the recruitment crisis in the NHS. I believe that unless working conditions and pay are not improved, the situation will become worse.
I qualified in the early 90s and after around 15 years of training, started work as a consultant. One makes financial decisions based on projected earnings in the future. Clearly this is difficult to do but I looked to my superiors to determine my likely future standard of living. and in this regard, I made some errors one of which was committing to private school education for my children. This decision was made partly due to recognition of learning difficulties diagnosed in my first child. Sadly once you get on that bandwagon, it is difficult ti get off. The burden of private school fees and other living expenses when reliant on a NHS consultant salary soon takes its toll. Within a few years of working, it was necessary to find extra work to make ends meet. I did take on some private work ( in my free time) and also additional locum weekends (in free weekends). This certainly helped the finances but I had NO free time and my quality of life was poor and stress levels very high. Commonly I would be working every weekend in a month and as a surgeon, on call means phone calls and operating in the middle of the night,
After 3-4 years of this and still struggling to pay the bills, I decided something had to change.
I applied for a locum in the Middle East a few years ago, just for a month. However, it was so successful that I resigned from my NHS job and signed a full time contract in the same Middle East hospital. I now earn about 3 times my NHS take home pay and couldn’t be happier. Having said all that, I do miss living and working in the UK and acknowledge that standard of care in the UK very much exceeds that of the Middle East.
I have come across many other consultants that have done the same as me. I think that it is sad that we allow fully trained, experienced health care professionals (and this includes nurses) to leave our NHS at the peak of their careers.
Other than the Middle East, what other countries can a UK consultant to work at?? Any idea??
@@cranjusmcbasketball4977 I think a UK consultant cert is valued in most countries, but I know Canada, Australia, and New Zealand are popular destinations for UK docs!
Yeah we have a couple of UK-trained Anesthesiologists here in Canada. Surprisingly a lot of South Africans as well
Which middle east country out of curiosity
Uh interesting
I'm not a medical doctor and just made the move from UK to Australia. The difference is crazy, it's only after moving did I realise how overworked and underpaid the UK is across pretty much every job sector.
Salaries haven't increased in real terms in the UK since the 80s.
TV programme on "BBC "Wanted down under " been highlighting this for years.
@@sjbict I lived in Sydney Australia, on the northern beaches for a year, it was wonderful.
Yup
But at least in the Uk you dont have to look around for slithering snakes that wanna kill you just for sitting in a park
This is the best NHS salary and cuts video I’ve come across!! The transparency, clarity and not leaving anything out, great video Dr Surina!!
Wow - thank you!
My brother migrated to the UK when he was 14. He is now a specialist doctor in the NHS. My parents pulled out every money, took loans, borrowed money from family and friends to help him settle there. Fast forward 20 years later he regrets every decision he made. He is the poorest amongst our family. Even my mother earns more than him. We didn't know Asia economies would boom in the last 20 years. My grandmother who gets grants from the government, saves more money than him. Of course he makes more than my grandmother if we compare, penny for penny. If we take into the account of purchasing parity and the money saved after expenses than even my grandmother makes more than him.
UK is a poor country made for poor people. It's a heaven if you are poor and don't have any ambitions to get filthy rich but just live by as like most of the brits. It's a socialist country so if you can't make a living and you are absolutely struggling in your country then moving to the UK is a great idea. Being a poor country UK priorities are in helping the majority class of its people, that is the lower income class. Unlike in my country, in the UK you can get supported housing, universal credit and you can make up for the inability to work by getting paid in extra from the side of the government. My brother said there are loopholes in the system where you can get up to easily €1.3k a month from the government, a lot gets even more. If you are absolutely struggling, move to UK. €1.3K a month might be very small and insignificant but something is better than nothing.
Btw, my brother is planning to go to the US. Salary for a specialist doctor is 40-50 fold higher than that of the UK counterparts but I've heard the US has stopped accepting UK doctors for their below bar performances and their outdated methods in medical practices. From movie stars to average Joe, every Brits wants to get paid in America.
@@drsurinataneja I am literally gobsmacked at this video. We currently have strikes by junior doctors, with many of them waving placards saying they are earning only £14/hr.
I genuinely thought they were exaggerating - no way could people who are so highly qualified and essential be paid peanuts.
But you showed me that it really is like that - I'm speechless. I can easily see that there will be difficulty in getting people to train for the NHS in the future.
NIH medical consultants make about the same as Japanese medical doctors and most European doctors. By the numbers I thought the US doctors were substantially better payed BUT they also have 2x the school debts and they have to pay $30-50,000 in medical malpractice insurance etc… it balances out to be the same in the end especially when you consider that rent etc cost more in America.
I don't miss this about UK, I was a healthcare assistant earning £10.60 an hour. Working all the hours under the sun, I left for Australia, self employed doing community mental health support. My base hourly rate is $50, $75 on Saturday, $120 on Sundays.
It's shocking to remember how little we got paid in England. England isn't a cheap place to live either. Big misconception about that, people say aus is expensive. In comparison I think UK is more expensive in many ways when it comes to living expenses. Thanks for the video!
Bus drivers in the mines in australia a few years ago got paid 250k a year lol. I’m a sparky and base 40 hour week in the city is 190k a year however if I go offshore it’s 40% uplift so equates to roughly 330k a year 😂 obscene
Hey,how did you get self employed?
I am also a support worker,working for same company for last 12 years.feel like a change now.could you please guide
Thanx
@@firstname2072 mate what's this 40hr working week $190k BS? I know sparkies on the best agreements in the city and no one is getting anywhere near that for just 40hrs...
@@rubydooby1679you clearly don’t know sparkies on the best agreements….
inpex, chevron, Woodside. Anyone offshore support is on minimum that. Goes up to around 450k a year if you are offshore team lead. Workpackers for those lot get 160k base and all that is, is gathering drawings and putting it into a workpack…… ask your sparky mates and you’ll see. If they know the industry they’ll tell you I’m not exaggerating.
@@firstname2072 yeah my mate works on the mines and a few others, the money is insane let alone offshore 😂
I’m shocked it’s not more, especially with how hard NHS doctors work. I’m alive because of the amazing consultants, doctors, nurses, microbiologists and pharmacists of our amazing NHS - who got me through urinary sepsis twice. I will be forever grateful to you all! God Bless you all x
Fair enough. I’m glad that they don’t do it just for the money
all of those other people are paid peanuts compared to doctors/consultants.
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The consultant saw me once agreed I had a bad infection. After that, it was the doctors and nurses who got me through it in one piece. For all the criticism of the NHS, I have nothing but praise for the professionalism, empathy, and patience.
How can they possibly make more money doesn't fall from the sky it comes from taxes, also every job on the planet is difficult they make enough
I appreciate your attempt to bring some transparency in this area. I wish all the salaries are made transparent in every organization. Very well organized and explained clearly. Great job.
Really enjoyed this video and you have been really transparent and well explained! I work for NHS as sister and could not believe how low our FY1 gets paid, the amount of jobs you guys have to do is insane. Hope you get paid lot more there because you deserve it xxx
Enlightening, and very honest. The public don't understand the pay situation or pressure junior doctors are under. The career is font-loaded - big rewards if you hang in there to be a consultant.
Re Australia - my (doctor) daughter said that half of her graduating class were currently in Australia their health system is dependent on NHS doctors and nurses.
(Hope you enjoyed your time there btw.)
Great video. As a consultant of 18 years am nowhere near that high pay. The example is of someone on a 58 hour contract and V few consultants are on that. The majority are on much much less. Good to see the comparison though and I only wish I'd left for Australia years ago. Make the most of it and enjoy life there.
Since publishing I have definitely realised what a spectrum of consultant earning there is! Hopefully it is made clear what is basic pay and what is additional pay for additional responsibilities and hours spent working. Thank you for watching and for leaving a comment😊
Hi I agree this nhs consultant pay slip isn’t representative of most nhs consultant:) this consultant may not have any time left to do private practice on a ‘14.5’ PA job plan - this doesn’t exist I think? But excellent video! Sharing !
Great video, I completely agree we need to remove the stigma around talking about pay it stops people getting taken advantage of by companies and let’s people make informed choices about education and career path.
For comparison I work as a senior sales exec in the HR industry selling learning solutions to companies. My basic pay is £50k a year so similar to a junior Doctor, but with commission I earn around £150k which is more like consultant money. What’s funny is in our sales team when you start earning over £100k we call it “doctor money”
you sound so cool
@@mikenewbold1699 cheers that’s nice of you to say. I don’t think my kids would agree.
We have the same thing going on in Australia with the Building and Civil Construction Industry. A qualified plumber can be earning doctor money + at 21 years old.
I can't believe what you get as a junior doctor! It's enough to live of course but absolutely not enough with what you guys deal with and the impact you have on society! I was genuinely shocked at that given your literally in a life of death job. Thank you for sharing though, very enlightening. Wish you the best.
@@borderreiver2218 So they were intelligent enough to know of an incoming pandemic and what that would involve? Are you in the medical profession or anything? I'm not but from an outsiders perspective it seems pretty fucking different from most other doctors experiences unless you want to go back to Spanish flu times, or war docs/surgeons perhaps. I'm not sure I understand your point if I'm honest.
I get paid 28.5k gbp for basically entry level IT job with college education, not uni.. I dont deal with life and death on a daily basis. After watching this I felt really grateful for what I get paid but also undeserving. Can you elaborate on your point more? What do you do for a living?
Thank you Surina, this is a fascinating analysis of some very important people in our society. Your honesty is remarkable and laudable. May I politely suggest that with some spare money you organise a financial professional to give you guidance on the financial side of your work, you may benefit enormously by their insight. Good luck in your career.
This is so helpful as a junior doctor, much more help than than any of the HR sessions we’ve been given!
Thanks for watching!
By sharing pay information and all the details of how pay is not the same as deposited amount will make a huge difference to those who don't know. Information is power and you've just empowered people. Well done!
Thank you for watching and for leaving this comment!
I loved the fact that u havent given any of ur opinion and just stated facts out there ..... good content only facts laid out kept it open for the audience to decide....Video is awesome 🌹
Good video, I'm a painter and decorator employing 2 people. Work hard and earn about 100k a year from wages. Never had a loan etc. Strange that people are encouraged to be a doctor but not a painter 😅
I'm not clever enough to be a doctor and couldn't handle the stress and litigation worries so am happy in my humble work. Credit to the hard working doctors. They earn their money. Especially when you think about how long and how expensive training is.
FM! That's a tidy wage for painting, I didn't realise it was such a lucrative business:-)
All jobs bring different value to society and we need them all - thanks for every thing you do! Earnings are one part of job satisfaction but a large part has to be enjoying the work you do too.
I remember when I bought my first house and got a plasterer in, we were chatting and he said he'd been earning about £45k the previous year full time (This was like 1997) but CBA with that now so had dropped hours. Next sentence was something like "I bet you do so much better than that working in a fancy office". Mate I was on twelve grand!! But just goes to show the misconceptions that tradespeople vs office workers have about each other's salaries. As you say, more people would want to be painters if they knew the truth 😁
We just got a quote of £8000 to paint a 2 bed house so no wonder their on a lot! 😄😄😄
I presume that was inside and outside!
I found this quite humbling to watch. Thank you for sharing sensitive information in a straightforward snd understandable way.
Whilst I can only dream of a salary like these examples, I think doctors are the absolute salt of the earth. I’m delighted you earn a good salary. Thank you so much, I owe my life several times over to doctors such as yourself. You are priceless! This is the first time I’ve cried writing a comment on RUclips!
Football players get £100k plus a week ……this is the wrong way round doctors should have this pay 💰
Very pertinent video! I’ve been a doctor in the UK for 30 years and I think doctors have been taken too much for granted. To have a proper NHS you have to first fully cost the service. That was the idea from its inception. Then you have to pay for it. That is where successive governments have failed to action. A senior doctor’s time in the UK should be about £600-800 per hour -that’s the private rate. All this means that if you don’t pay for a proper NHS, then you can’t have one! Very sorry to lose such well trained doctors like you to Australia but I can fully understand that you have to do whatever it takes to have the chance of a decent work life balance. Wish you all the very best!
I'd argue rather the opposite. There's a perception that any competent doctor is omniscient. They're absolutely not!
I believe the avarage earnings of a senior doctor in the UK is £143,000. Perhaps you think that's inadequate. Fair enough, but £800 an hour? Get real!
Hi, it is so good to see your video. I have been a GP in rural New Zealand for close to 20 years and whenever we had a registrar attached to the practice I have taken them aside and showed them my income figures in detail. Not one had had a clue what it might be and they were quite surprised. I am not going to detail my earnings here but suffice to say that every single one of them now works as a GP when previously they had been quite undecided about what career path to follow. Do not get me wrong here, it is very hard work and a lot of responsibility but you see the benefit of your work and you reallly can make a difference in people’s life so there’s that reward as well and I never really stopped appreciating that.
Great video! Great to see NHS staff being supported well with pension and pay 👏🏻
How nice to see someone so transparent. Great jobxx
Hi Surina, this was such a great video, thank you for taking the time to set out this information. I think it would be really helpful if you could do a similar video, talking through what the pay is like in Australia. It would shed light on something many doctors wonder about! Best of luck in the future
Thanks for this short but very well organized video 👌🏻
Thank you for being so transparent and honest. I counts for a lot. Most of all, thank you for your work, you are a star and deserve much better pay!
Great video. When people say how much they earn it’s always the gross figure…the true figure is your NET per month x12…When you start looking at what you receive, the housing you can afford and the amount you can put aside to paying your student loans off, it’s staggering. Thank you for your transparency. 😊
Great to see content like this. I’m a year 3 consultant surgeon and my monthly take home is around half of the consultant in the video. I think the CE awards and variation in PA’s awarded for educational involvement can clearly make a big difference. Interested in seeing your comparison to Australia, as I also worked there previously.
I’ve just commented the same as you…also getting just over half of her consultant pay example! Would love 9k!
Hi, thanks for watching and yes since publishing I have realised there is a huge spectrum of consultant earning as you progress in years worked and more responsibilities/hours taken on! Hopefully I was clear in what was "basic" pay and what were the additional pay categories are but I appreciate your feedback.
@@drsurinataneja Really odd consultant pay slip- DOUBLE the basic pay with NP / Locum. Also using pay scale from 15 years seniority. I'm a consultant surgeon and take home is just over half of that example. You do explain its separate to basic pay but I suspect the majority of non medics could assume that its common for consultants to earn that sort of pay...whereas even those on 13 PAs don't take home anywhere near 9k. Just for comparison my consultant and wife GP take home pay (even with me working >11pas) combined isn't 9k.
Another expense not mentioned is the NHS car parking charge. I have to pay this as an extra, I commute about forty eight miles a day to work in rural setting. I can not get out of this as public transport is not adequate so I am completely reliant on my car!
Oh yes, totally understand your pain - was in a very similar situation during my foundation years!
@@drsurinataneja Ironically, I get free parking with the NHS as a hospital radio presenter !
So confused how this popped up on my recommendations, but thought why not give it a watch. Love the transparency. 👍🏽👍🏽
A few of the contract rules for junior doctors in training have changed since this video was made/the JD payslip was issued. Not sure the overall pay would be much different. Also the pay for nights/weekends will depend on the template rota for the placement which changes every 4/6/12 months. Hours are averaged over template length rather than over a week or month, as well as over 26 weeks to ensure rota is WTD compliant
Great video. If you don't already know, you should be able to deduct professional subscription fees as an employment expense. If this is not done through PAYE, then you can do so through Self Assessment to get tax relief.
Unless it has changed, you are quite restricted on what you can claim back as a junior doctor via PAYE. HMRC would accept BMA, GMC and MDU fees but not fees for courses, exams, books etc. Their position was that if they were essential for your work your employer should pay them. No point trying that one.
it was really simplified in an amazing manner , Thank you
Drs, pharmacists and nurses are soooo underpaid in uk. The level of responsibility that comes with the job, the level stress we have to go through is incomparable to our paycheque. NHS must increase the salaries of us key workers. We are literally saving peoples lives yet we get less salary than someone who sits at home and plays video games ( nothing against gamers ) just think NHS key workers are massively underpaid.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see the difference between US and UK training remuneration.
Thank you so much for this video!! So helpful and thanks for being transparent🙌🏾🙌🏾 🤍As a newly qualified nurse, looking at my payslip, I get so confused it looks like a crossword! They should have a separate sheet explaining all the abbreviations etc.
Also that’s so badmind, the pay is so low, I heard Australia pay soo much more for nursing and medial staff and the living standards there are so much better. Bigger houses for lower prices, the beaches, warm weather! Who know I might end up going there in the future.
The uk doesn’t respect the nhs
You also pay more tax, pay a chunk towards the health service (not sure if this is removed for staff there) and as virtually ALL food is imported, their weekly food shop is way higher.
But yeah, I'd suck all that up for the nicer weather. But the almost Nazi-state treatment of their citizens during the pandemic (and still now) isn't worth it. So I won't be moving any time soon.
I am 53 and work as a Nurse Consultant (SRN4) in a privately run, publicly funded hospital in Perth.
I feel we get very well paid indeed. Last year was AU$190k before tax. That was with some overtime and lots of shift 'penalties' (ie unsocial hours). I am happy to work like a dog while I am here as I get suitably recompensed. I trained in the UK and got sick of always being hard up and unappreciated. The quality of life here is utterly fantastic. I am disgusted at how poorly the NHS treats and pays staff.
The housing costs here are more than UK in major Australian cities. It is now almost impossible to buy a house as it is so expensive.
@@vivienbassiray5617 Lies.
Very sad to see to be honest. I'm 8 years out of uni and work in tech and earn as much as an entry level consultant in the NHS. You need to have a real love and desire to work as a doctor in the UK considering the level of studying and effort you need to put in to get there.
Consultant pay is terrible for the amount of work you have to do. It’s actually really shit. EU docs come here because they don’t know any better. It’s why i’m taking my skills abroad and saying a big fuck you to the nhs can’t wait!
@@icemanjondoe piss off you greedy iceman , Pity the patients under your care . NHS. don’t need greedy ungrateful people like you .We need caring doctors and you are NOT ICEMANJONDOE
software developers earn a lot around 40-60k starting and 100-130k in fang as starting salary and higher you progress in those companies and you can earn up to 500k a year. To become doctor takes lots of years of study and just to get to get started working which is hard and I respect that job.
@Luca Malaccari for the amount of work they do and responsibility it doesn't equate to a fair compensation. In addition, not everyone is able to become a consultant, just like the hierarchy of any other organisation. If you compare compensation of a consultant who is at the top of their field, compared to someone at the top of their field in industry, the individual in industry would earn a lot more. Partners at law firms, consultancies, hedge funds etc.
@@eileeneileen3351 Go be a doctor yourself then if you care so much.
Oh finally I understand it. Thank you so much for this nice and simple video.
Thank you. Very clear, and very accurate. There is slight difference for Scotland 🏴 - but we are going only talking a few pence here n there.
Such a great video with lots of detail, Thankyou❤️
All the NHS staff do a great job and I for one appreciate each and every one. I should imagine that seeing the difference in salary between a Junior Doctor and a Consultant is a great incentive to progress through the various pay scales and get to Consultant level.
Thank you for your comment, I agree! It's not really a job to go in to for the money in my opinion (given there is 20-30 years of training and several thousands of pounds of exams and fees before getting there) but yes I think it is important to look ahead at progression as an incentive to carry on!
Thank you for sharing, it was interesting to know how doctors are doing in different countries
I thought about being a doctor when I was younger but I wasn't smart enough. I now make a lot more as a web developer than even consultants with a lot less stress so maybe I am smart after all.
I'm a nurse for the NHS and now in private and agree 100% we need to be open and transparent with our pay.
Great video! Subscribed✅ And liked! 🥰🌹
Thank you!!
This is so wrong! I'm 28 so still young in my career (6 years specifically) and I only work 160 hours a month yet take home £3,150 every month with absolutely no student debt to pay off! Doctors deserve so much more for the hard work they do!
The NHS Pensions contributions are not included, she is being fairly well paid for a new kid on the block.
@Luca Malaccari Because the pay is much worse in developing countries
@@akinbiyieri4664 Indeed, she would be getting at least £5k a year in pension payments on top of this. Overtime at £35 an hour, can move nearly anywhere in the UK, secure employment, sounds good to me !
I know people with computer science degrees and debt who start as software developers on around £22k. After a few years, maybe 5 of gaining the experience to do the job they can easily get to £50-£80k.
This lady did her degrees etc, but it takes time to actually be a real doctor. Her pay is fine for starting her career
I am OBGYN consultant in Indonesia. My payment after tax is mostly the same with Surgeon Consultant in UK. But living cost in Indonesia in my oppinion is much more cheaper than UK.
Amazing 🤣 more than expected and very interesting thank you 😊 look forward to your Australian pay checks
Thank you for an informative and entertainingly well presented video. I almost feel relieved to be a fifo mine site cleaner. the furthest I can stretch my first aid is to call myself a Master Elaster Plaster.
Well done for being transparency- thanks for all you did in the NHS. From a fellow NHS worker
You Brits talk about the NHS like it's some kind of cult. That's why they pay you guys like shit. One has to be insane to keep working there and not move to a more welcoming country
Great video thanks for sharing but i was expecting more for consultants. The earning is a lot more in as an IT Consultant after 10 years and you dont do more than 8 hours a day. Lots of respect to NHS doctors and Consultants though you do a great job!
What a good video! I'm not in the medical profession but still found it very interesting. I'll be interested in the differences between the NHS and the Australian system. You come across as having a great personality and may I say you're beautiful. I'll be tuning in again!
£32,000 a year really wow ,many people sitting at a desk, not saving lives ,never been to College yet alone Uni and earn more money than that.
I find that absolutely terrible, I would want double that if l went to Uni.
Moral of the story don't go into the caring profession unless you love the profession more than money,because you are not getting much money.
Keep in mind that the 40% tax rate only applies to the pay between £50,271 to £150,000 annually. The first £50,271 is taxed at a lower rate.
Anything above 150k is tax at a rate of 45%.
and there's an effective tax rate of 60% between £100k-£125k due to the loss of the personal allowance.
@@Macbobob IIRC it's 62% - nice ....:)
Yep, and lets not forget the "National Insurance" tax.
And lets not forget that taxation pays for schooling, police and the NHS, and that NI pays for state pensions for all. While I'm not fortunate enough to earn over £100K or £150K, I do earn more than the £50k limit for the 40% tax rate and I'm happy to pay it. In fact I think we should be paying more as many of our institutions like the NHS are struggling.
Finally, do I think consultants are worth £100k+; I have to say I'm not so sure! Lots of very clever, hardworking people earn significantly less. Yes I know other countries, like the US, pay even more but then people die because they can't afford healthcare. These days it seems the world is full of greedy people, I hope that isn't all that is driving our best doctors!
@@markhickson9087 Earn over 100K and you lost your tax allowance. Whereas I still get a capital gains tax allowance and dividend tax allowance on my enormous share portfolio. We should be paying less tax on EARNED income and taxing capitals and assets far more as well as tracking down the Trillions in assets sitting offshore tax free. But then whilst I earn more than 150K I am a bit of a lefty
Wow very interesting!! Love the comparison and transparency 👍👍
Best Video about the NHS pay check .. Finally .. It would be great if you could also give a step by step process of how to claim back the membership fee and other claims down from the tax of any ..
Consultants are the end of the line and the responsibility is huge, the costly training and endless hours are rewarded with a pay that it z fraction of many in banking znd insurance. They save lives. Greedy International bankers have destroyed so many lives. I am not a doctor. I was a teacher.
Well done on your achievements. You deserve every penny and more.
Thank you for sharing this - and thanks for doing what you do!
Well done........ we dont discuss money enough this is very helpful to get the discussion going, also it not what you earn that matters it's what you do with the money that you earn that makes the difference! Having seen how Australia's government is behaving like over the covid pandemic i would not want to move to this country ever!
Thanks for a transparent and informational disclosure. It's really sad that after all that training and hard work, a junior doctor makes less money per hour than a RGN. Or a private dental hygienist makes more money than a StR. Yes you will start earning good money when you become a consultant but that's like what- 15-20 years of extra training post-MBBS? And then another 9 and 14 years working as a consultant to cross 100K mark! Unless you are passionate about saving lives and love being a doctor (money's not everything and all that), this seems like a poor career choice at least in the UK.
It's amazing anybody wants to be a doctor in the NHS. You must be very dedicated people. I hate the way politicians applaud NHS staff and then give them 1% pay rises when inflation is double that. The same of course can be said for other groups like teachers etc.
Seriously?! You can see why they want to be doctors - just look at the salary they will eventually get, most of them when they're just in their 30's. Now look at the salaries of Nurses an other NHS workers e.g. Physios/Radiographers, and see why the NHS is on it's knees.
My good friend is a doctor. He works 3 days a week and makes about £60k a year. More pay you say? For what exactly? Lol. There are other groups more deserving of a pay rise.
@@mrquasar2922 doctor or consultant or specialist? Sounds like the latter...
Inflation is double 1% lol? It is at 5% and going higher. If you could print your way out of problems then the Roman Empire would still be around.
These people NHS staff etc have public sector jobs. That basically means they have a stable job for life, and generous pension etc. If they want more money they should take their skills and compete in the private sector, where the vast majority of people work hard everyday. In the private sector there's no job gaureentee for them. Their jobs can replaced by cheaper labour etc etc etc.
Thank you for sharing! I appreciate the work you do!
Very informative video. Btw the video and audio quality was top notch. kudos
As a medical student watching this, it was so insightful and has reinforced my decision to move abroad at the earliest opportunity. Pay for all NHS staff needs to be increased and the fact we get £10-£11/hr after 5+ years of Med school and I can earn the same amount or even more working as a HCA and not going to medical school ☹️
Hey, just wondering, it is competitive getting a job after med school?
And how is med school like, do you enjoy it... I am considering a career in medicine but I'm not quite sure yet
Honestly, I'm already planning to go to Denmark as soon as I am able to and I'm only in my 5th year of med school ....
@@user-lg2nz3xe7x really?? Why, are there not enough jobs in the UK or is it the pay?
You could get the same amount working in retail lmao
Its interesting to hear this. I get 5k a month... 60k a Yr. (in the UK) I'm 34 yrs old. That's before tax etc I do 40hr weeks... So no over time. I get 35 days holiday and a wealth of benefits.
I still have opportunities to progress up the ladder.
So although its not the best pay... I make video games, work from home and don't have any crazy overtime.
I'm not worried about making more as jointly me and the mrs make 120-140k
It's all relative though... Some industries bring in so much revenue that the worth of people goes up.
Kicking a football isn't a necessity to life... But its enjoyed by that many people, the salaries to kick a ball is insane...
I think the important thing is you either work solely for a means to bring money in or find a job that's your passion so lack of pay doesn't hurt your self worth ad much... Obviously trying to find a balance of them both is ideal.... But life isn't always ideal.
I look up to doctors and nurses etc because they value life... Like literally...
Thank you for uploading this video, now I can show this video to my students.
I wonder how long it will be before a hospital administrator chips in with how much they earn. Their pay should be halved and yours doubled. You have a lovely voice and are extremely well spoken and easy to listen to so why was the tinkling piano necessary ?
We need more good Doctors & nurses it's almost impossible to get a routine appointment these days, and hope the pay increases too.
This looks like a little compared to what junior doctors (Assistenzärzte) get paid in Germany.
Basic pay 40 hours is around 4960 Euros a month. Some shifts are required but also paid at premium like weekends and nights.
It's a really useful video, I'm a financial adviser specialising in doctors and dentists so was a useful refresh and insight to it all.
Thank you Dr Taneja for the thorough explanation and the details 🙂
Thank you for that,it was very enlightening.
As an NHS MH nurse,some nurse prescribers get quiet a bit more than you and not the same amount of debt.
Hats off to you 👍
True but to be at that level as a nurse it took them a lot more years than a junior doctor and they will very soon be left behind. Within a few years the junior doctor now registrar will earn a lot more so not an accurate comparison.
@@melonmelon7427 true and untrue.
True they can be left behind,( but there are opportunities for nurses to increase their paygrade) eventually,but untrue,a recently qualified MH nurse I know,took the prescribers course,completed it in 6 months.(she went on to get a band 8 job!!)
@@alanrobinson2229 yes but that’s one nurse and whilst there may be a few like her/him the vast majority take a lot longer to get to that point whereas for a Dr is the natural progression of their roles. Their rota, rotation, education, etc. is built in such a way to ensure this natural progression to a consultant. For nurse you’d have to leave your role and apply for a better paid one if you want a better opportunity. Nursing staff get stuck unless they make the decision to uproot themselves from that role and look for something else. For Dr is a lot different from a career progression perspective as they are afforded a lot more opportunities.
I've been doing some plastering work for a GP and he said he's absolutely cleaned up during this pandemic
As in making extra overtime?
@@luceanbrown8264 Didn't clarify but he said he was making more in 4 months than he normally would in the entire year.
@@richshackleton8104 sickening - that's what's bringing the NHS to it's knees, huge Consultant's salaries!
Am so glad you came to sunny Queensland. You will feel so much better, people are friendly, food is delish, beautiful beaches, lifetyle is betrer. Enjoy ❤
You couldn't have made it any clearer than that. Great video.
If the NHS was better managed and plugged the shameful amount of wasted money that it spends each month it could pay its junior doctors and nurses a more realistic salary and stop them leaving to better themselves elsewhere.....
Keep up the good work you do Doc... 👍
Don't listen to Tory propaganda. The NHS is extremely efficient and just needs more money, it's been cut to the bone. The internal cost to the NHS of a hip operation is around £6000, the internal cost to a US hospital for the same thing is £30,000 and they charge over £90,000 to the insurance company. We have an amazing health service that is being deliberately underfunded, so that the Tories can say "it's inefficient and doesn't work, we need to privatise". They did the same with British Rail and now we have the highest railfares and worst service in Western Europe. Be careful what you wish for.
Fantastic video I don't work in this sector I am amazed at how little junior doctors get paid they deserve alot more infact all nhs staff do without our health practitioners including doctors , nurses , porters and so many others we would not survive grateful for our nhs but really hope the pay can reflect years of studying , night shifts and overall dedication to enter these fields, love the transparency other sectors need to do this and school children need to be taught this too
Yip, i moved abroad for a few years then leveraged my savings into the stock market and thankfully have done alright. That debt is tough. Love your honesty.
Very useful layout of information, well done and all the best with your future endeavour.
Id point out that net pay for an 'average ' UK consultant will be more like £5000, not £9000. Most are on 10 or 11 PA, and may have no or only one or two CEA. CEA are now no longer what they were and the scheme is changing. Still ok, just saying..
Hi could you do a video on how much you'd make in Australia for the same work? (Btw love the videos very informative !)
Yes coming soon!
Yes pls I concur..can't wait for the comparison!!
An excellent video , I would love to see you do a video on how little faith a lot of people have in doctors.
brilliant video, so clear! Thank you 🙂
I think that an appropriate way of encouraging staff to work in the NHS would be to reward those taking specific medical degrees by waiving interest on student loans while they work in the nhs and to make the loans a tax deductible expense from NHS income.
Eh, I don't think that makes any difference tbh. As you can see, even on a doctors wage, many people will never pay off their student loan, and as you pay a percentage of your wage, not a percentage of the loan size, the loan size really doesn't matter. It can be £50,000, it could be £100,000, it would still cost you the same each month and expire after a fixed period of time (about 35 years).
@@orangew3988 making the loan a tax deductible expense would make a difference. £100 taken from net pay reduces net pay by that amount. However £100 taken from gross pay costs a basic rate tax pater £80 and a higher rate tax payer £60.
The pension offered to public sector is excellent compared to private sector, NHS staff also have other benefits not listed such as prefential reduced rates for car finance as another example. Like many jobs salary is just part of a package of employment. 👍
The car financial offer is for staff with long term contract only. As a junior doctor that rotates around the deanery annually, we won't be able to enjoy it until we become a consultant. Apart from the blue light card discount for small purchases, Furthermore, this year they have increased the travel allowance to 17miles one-way before you can claim for money. I really can't think of any other benefits. (No health insurance/ dental check etc)
It will be really great to know if there's other benefits that we can enjoy as a junior doctor.
I haven't come across any car finance options (and I did need to get a car for work during this job) but I agree the NHS pension is really valuable.
Superb! Clear, transparent and extremely informative. Thank you
I would love to see the comparison. Very interesting so far.
To be frank, I don't understand what many are complaining about. The salary levels are actually alright. Furthermore, the prospects of becoming a consultant in your 40s (in your 30s even if you're fast) and cashing in is also a huge bonus. That level of income progression is not existent in many other job fields. What is harrowing for me (every time) is the student debt. The UK, one of the 7 richest countries in the world, cannot afford free university education. Everywhere in Europe it's possible, but not in the UK.
It’s free in Scotland
@@scottishmamalivingingodslight it won’t be free when Scotland leaves the UK
Depends where you live
@@eileeneileen3351 and here was me thinking that rejoining the European Union would re-start the arrangement to teach European students for free - and for Scottish students to be able to study in European Universities for free. That was a fantastic arrangement and leaving the EU brought it to an end. I think I will take my chance! God Bless
@@scottishmamalivingingodslight it wasn’t free…. The UK government had to pay billions extra over time to the EU to be part of the Erasmus program….
Thank you...not enough pay for the level of responsibility ...it'll be interesting to know what you and other Dr's feel about the pay
Great video - scary to think bricklayers, scaffolders, electricians and plumbers etc are all currently charging in excess £250 per day in a lot of places now and in effect earning a similar money if not more than qualified consultants when you take into account the ability to work 6 days a week on sites and the fact self employed pay a lot less tax and NI.
That’s 9 years at university studying to complete a degree - compared to 1 day a week for 2 years at a occupational college to earn a nvq level 2.
What a breath of fresh air, only do a job that your happy to get up in the morning for, good luck
A good, informative video, if a little one sided on the deduction front. Everyone pays tax based on income and the same with National Insurance. Your gold plated pension scheme is also a bargain at 9% contributions. Look at it as the best investment you will ever make.
Progress to a consultant grade should be a given if you stick with it and then your bank account will look very healthy, You don't find many unemployed doctors in this country and guarantee of employment is not something to turn your nose up at.
Hope you enjoy Aus and your career goes well.
yep the pension is very important down the track
Agreed the NHS pension and the job security are big advantages of this career😊
"Junior" just means "not consultant", and "consultant" means "has finished training". Registrars are still "junior".
Thank you for your transparency !
I'm a senior orthotist. I left the Royal Navy in 1996 earning £23k a year. I then studied prosthetics and Orthotics 42 weeks a year for 4 years and graduated in 2000 on £22k. 20 years later a newly graduated prosthetist orthotist still gets £22k a year, my pay grade in the Navy now gets paid £48k a year. I was a band 7 orthotist getting £44k but was made redundant in 2020 and was re-employed at band 6 for £36k ironically roughly the equivalent of what I earned in 2000 when adjusted for inflation: 20 years experience and zero increase in living standards.
Very good. My sibling just retired as an NHS consultant at 55 but has absolutely loads of private work (I believe quite a few multiples a year of the £100k+ NHS salary - how many other jobs can you work and be allowed to do other work like that in the private sector! (taxed at at least 45%) which carries on and when in the NHS had a silver merit award which not only adds to pay but to pension I believe and now says he must live at least 30 years so he has 30 years of a huge NHS pension (the reason he did not move 100% into the private sector in his 30s when made a good offer). Meanwhile I am a mere lawyer and will work without a pension other than state until I die hopefully at 80.
I do feel that the younger generation medical doctors are the whinist people ever. So entitled.
@@Aprilforevergreen Tell that to the one you rely on to sort you out at a time of crisis . . . (once you've learned to spell)
@@wyndhammh6170 well they don't, that's the problem. It's all online, unless you're having something cut out or radiated....
@@Aprilforevergreen Well, that's not actually correct ... the NHS' own figures tell that current consultation rates are 20% above pre-pandemic levels, though that isn't enough to hit the backlog. Most of the face to face restrictions have been imposed by managers (from home), not clinicians. But I share some of your frustrations - we already had a system where demand far outstrips supply. Also, we're still losing many people who find working abroad preferable, and GP numbers are actually falling.
@@wyndhammh6170 when a doctor's says they will only treat the sick by what you pay them, we have lost the plot in terms of humanity - and then to brag about the fact that your in it for the money. But the fact remains, medicine is a well paid occupation, and like teaching, a vocation for many in previous generations.
It doesn't help that the NHS has a 'bottleneck' type system when it comes to traning its doctors. There's is more of a need for juniors (surgical or medical) and so no real insentive to get you through training.
This is a great informational NHS salary video..in the sense that is from a horse mouth 😊for international students.