How to become a Surgeon in the UK | General Surgery UK Training Pathway | Portfolio Tips & Guidance
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- The NEW General Surgery curriculum is out which will be implemented this year and this video is completely based on that. Know in detail how you can become a general surgeon in the UK along with picking up a special interest in other subspecialties.
Also, get top tips and guidance on your portfolio buildup on how you can get a competitive edge on your core surgical training application.
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Thank you very much! I am genuinely very grateful for your videos. Shared them with my friends 🙏🏾
You're very welcome 😁
Thank you Dr Ibrahim for being incredibly patient and informative with all your videos. You constantly give me and so many others hope and confidence in dismal times. Thank you once again.
You're very welcome :)
Honestly you really have summarised that curriculum perfectly! Thank you Dr Ibrahim
You're welcome 😁
Thank you so much Dr. Ibrahim! Amazing info, as always. Hope to see one on peds 😊
You're welcome. We are going by the massive survey that we did on our site.
Thank you very much Dr.Ibrahim for your efforts and time!
Welcome!
It was such an amazing informative and comprehensive video I ever seen... Alhamdulillah cleared all my queries... Feeling so relaxed now... Anything is possible... WOW... I have no words to thank you people...
Jazaka Allah...
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Glad to hear that!
great work sir and maam !! this really helps many people like us thank you so much for you efforts and dedication 😃
You're very welcome!
Hey! Thank you so much for your time and efforts ❤️. It seems overwhelming but i think its doable ☺️. I always wanted to be a surgeon and I am sure one day it'll all come true❤️ take care you two💕
You can do it!
@@RoadToUK thank you 💕
Thank you. It was really helpful video. Can you please also make a video about pathway for Neurosurgery and cardiothoracic surgery. As they are highly competitive pathways.
Sure!
Great video and very educational if someone wants to have the bigger picture before committing to a specialty. Please make the equivalent of ortho training!
Sure!
Was waiting for this 😭
Yay!
Thank you so much Dr Ibrahim! Could you please do one for ENT and ophthalmology?
Sure!
Thank you so much for this Dr. Ibrahim. If it's not too much to ask, could you please do one of orthopaedic as well? Thank you in advance 🙏
Sure!
hey salaam from India,I being medical graduate from there how do I go for residency program in UK via plab ?..how difficult are these and if I need to crack Ielts or OET ?
First of all, congrats on your new look, no offence but you look much much better now. and thank you so much for the work that you guys are doing, could please make a video of how to become a cardiologist in the UK?
Thanks. :)
We already did. Check this playlist: The Pathway to Enter Your Specialty of Choice: ruclips.net/p/PLXt2ODIQqEojdErPEKN5LHc74EfB7aQz1
Assalam alikum. Thanks a lot for such a nice guidance. Kindly make one on Orthopaedic Surgery please.
Walaikum assalaam. Sure!
@Road to Uk please make a video on how to get training in OBGYN in uk? thanks in anticipation
In due time!
Yes pls...
@@RoadToUK hello. How can we connect with you.. ??I have certain queries..
Hi ,thank you for such wonderful videos ,please make a video about CESR PATHWAY.
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You guys are amazing thank you so much!!!
Our pleasure!
Hey! You are doing amazing work. I have a bit of a situation at hand atm; I am on a Tier 2 visa working with a Bristol based Tech company, whilst my wife is an MS ENT doing her SRship with the same hospital. We are confused what pathway to choose, 1.MRCS -> GMC-> Applying directly for NHS registrar jobs (or SHO? Is it possible to get registrarship directly?)
2. Mch in Otorhinolaryngology at Edge hill and completing MRCS (I am hoping for her to atleast get the Part A done before the course starts) concurrently.
Also, can the process of reaching the ST-7/8 (Consultant) be expedited? Or mandatory 5-6 Years of surgical medical training needs to be done before writing the FRCS exam?
Thanks a ton for all the information 😊
Hi Dr Ibrahim! I have done my mrcs ENT recently and I was wondering what jobs to apply for next? Is it possible to get your core competencies signed off during the non training job period and then join the specialty training?
Hi Dr.Thank you for your wonderful presentation.A quick doubt though what if I have done my post graduation from my country and cracked mrcs both parts and to get a superspeciality ,how long will superspeciality alone take?
Many thanks
I hope you are doing well, thank you so much for your videos.
I have few questions.
I recieved my residency training in France I have the European board of plastic surgery and the French diploma of plastic surgery, I will go back to work in saudi Arabia however, I am intrested to know about the FRCS FOR INTERNATIONALS since I did all my residency training in France..
Jazakallahu khyran for amazing & informative video.
Please elaborate on alternative core competencies pathway..for a general surgeon with gmc registration.
As I am a general surgery post graduate from India & here we have post graduation of 3 years + 1 year senior residency as general surgeon , ur reply would be very helpful.
Thanks in advance
Please see: ruclips.net/video/Lr-ufHzD6WI/видео.html
For covering the QIP points, does it has to be the implementation of a sustainable change or project in surgery? and would it also apply this for teaching?
Thank you for this wonderful video , I have a question, I don’t know how will it sound , how difficult is it to get your Alternative certificate of core competencies form signed by your consult after starting non training job in Uk .
Thank you
It's impossible to put a measure of this 'difficulty'.
For some it may be really walk in the park as they quickly develop good professional relationship with the signatory consultant with their work and for some it may prove to be very difficult to achieve.
So have a look at the latest form and plan and communicate well.
Could you please make a video on the training pathways for orthopaedics
Sure!
Thank you so much. Can you please tell me about the Run through specialty training like Neurosurgery. Can one apply for Neurosurgery ST3 after passing MRCS and gainning Alternate Core Compliance Certificate?
Please watch this video: ruclips.net/video/Lr-ufHzD6WI/видео.html
Thank you for the wonderful video Doctor. As a final year medical student is it possible to achieve the criteria for the 'competitive edge'? For example will my seminars in class, surgical courses attended in my home country, audit during my internship, honours in my university exam still count if I get a certificate signed by my professors? Or only those signed by a UK consultant recognised?
Thank you,
Shams
Yes these things are all useful. It doesn't need to be signed by a UK consultant.
@@RoadToUK Do they need to be signed by a consultant in my home country or any registrars or specialits?
Does attending atls course provided by local organisation say BCPS, and basic surgical skills course, count to adding points on the portfolio, or is opting for courses offered on the RCS website a better option, because those are quite expensive .
Hi Dr Ibrahim. At the outset thank you for this excellent effort. I just had a quick question about, the Improving Surgical Training, does this also have a overqulification criteria like that of core surgical training?? Or can we overlook the over qualified clause???
Yes, absolutely. It's been mentioned in the video.
@@RoadToUK thank you 👍🏻
Does working as an HMO pre/post FCPS part 1, in a surgical department at govt hospital in Bangladesh, count fir points in the surgical taster/surgical elective in the portfolio
Really nice video Sir.... I have a query which I m not able to find the answer to ..
After completing Mch Urology from India can we pay directly for FRCS urology. And if we clear FRCS urology can we practise in UK.... or should we redo the urology residency in UK...thanks in advance
Could you please outline a similar video on neurosurgery. It’d be of great help knowing that neurosurgery is highly competitive has put me off and I’m considering apply for CST and applying from there for ST3 neurosurgery, is that at all possible ?
We will have one for neuro soon. ST3 neuro seat is more competitive than ST1.
Hey,
It's a very informative video. Great work. But
I have a query if u can clear please..... I can not understand the term Restritction to join Core surgical training in terms of experience that u said should be less than 18 months...what does that mean plz?
Forexample if i have done Posgratduate Residency in General Surgery of 04 years in Pakistan...Then i will counted as over qualified ? Should i give MRCS or not ? if i pass MRCS then i will be eligible or not for surgical training in uk ?
Waiting for ur kind reply....
Thankyou
Really helpful video, thank you Dr. Ibrahim!! What if you are overqualified for CST, are you eligible for IST? If I completed my residency in General Surgery in my home country and I want to apply to Speciality training, can I apply to ST1 (or higher) having passed the MRCS exam? Would I be eligible?
yes sir same question please
Thanks. If you are overqualified for CST, IST wouldn't possibly be any different. You'll have to check the person specifications for IST.
If you have completed more than 18 months of surgical experience anywhere you'll not be able to apply for CST, but with equivalent competencies signed off you'll be able to apply for ST3 training.
Does getting a surgical exposure and assisting in case during final year of mbbs and internship will be counted in cst application? For an FMG..
Plzz make a video on pediatrics training in uk!!
Sure!
Hi! How do you make sure that you do not become overqualified to apply for core surgical training when you come after FY1 (at home country) to the UK? Please elaborate on the pathway!
Don't work in any surgical setting or ensure you work less than 18 months (not including internship).
Hello, Thank you for this awesome video about Surgical training in the UK. I just want to know, how serious are they about this overqualification to apply for CST? Does this mean, any overqualified doctors are not allowed to apply CSTat all?
That's the criteria. Like having GMC registration and having a CREST form.
If it wasn’t 'serious' they wouldn’t have make it a criteria.
@@RoadToUK thanks for the clarification!!! Also, it would be great if you could clarify more about"alternative core competencies pathway", sorry couldn't find any more detailed link about it.
Hello, many thanks for ur efforts . Will u make a video regarding anesthesia !!!
Sure!
Hello! Thank you for this really insightful video. I have a question though. I have done my general surgery (post graduate) training in India, sitting MRCS, and preparing an application for ST3. Do I need to get an “alternative core competency form signed”, if yes, then by whom?
Yes. By a consultant you've worked under.
Thank you for ur presentation i have a question.
What If I’m done master of orthopaedic and traumatology surgery outside of the uk which pathway will i take first apart from mrcs ? And how long is gonna take to become consultant ?
Thank u
You'd first need to get GMC registration and then follow as outlined in the video.
I dont understand the difference between IST or cst can someone explain which route to choose and based on what please
Hi,,, thank u so much... This video is very much informative... i completed my intership in 2020. Worked as medical officer in pediatrics for 1 year 3 months in my home town... Now I want to perceive MS in UK... From what level I can start my career.... after GMC through plab.... Kindly elaborate....🙏
Please see: ruclips.net/video/OEWSOoTzI6Y/видео.html
Thank you for your nice video and I am not clear what if someone is overqualified for CST??
Apply for specialty training.
I am an IMG who plans to join FY2 and then proceed to apply for CST.
In order to get the competitive edge and produce evidence for my commitment to surgery, would you suggest I start working(at a non training job) for a year after FY2 and fill in the surgical experience log book?
Kindly advice.
Yes as long as you are careful to not go over 18 months of surgical experience.
Will I be eligible for FRCS JCIE at the end of my training via MTI route , before returning to my country?
Hi. I had presented my research project through a poster at national level in my 4th year of mbbs, but it did not get published in any of the journals. Does it make any difference in the profile or is it worth mentioning?
Mention it.
I've enrolled for your CREST course,
But can you please guide how can we fulfil CREST and alternative core competencies while in say Bangladesh Post internship. As opposed to going to UK to do the same, and pros and cons of both?
You'd follow the requirements as laid out on the form. There is no difference in acceptance
I was declared time expired for the part B Intercollegiate MRCS due to logistic and personal reasons. Is there any way I can still get into a fellowship programme in the UK?
Make a video on orthopaedic surgery.
👍🏻
I am 2 years into Surgical Training in the EU and I would like to transfer to the UK I currently Have a GMC number but I am just wondering based on your expalnation I am over qualified for core training therefore i would need to do a non training job and then build my CV to become inorder to join Spr?
Sir plz make video on imaging technologists
Sorry we don't have any information on that.
Can you please make a video on new exam called UKMLE which will replace Plab
It will be helpful for many of us who are planning to come uk
Thank you in advance:)
We've already made one :) Please check our channel!
@@RoadToUK yes i did watch after that
Thank you 😊
great work explaining this Dr Ibrahim. also kindly let us know the specialities in runthrough program. always aspired to be a surgeon...
Please see: ruclips.net/video/wQnOhssR8zE/видео.html
Please make a video on obs & gynea training..
👍🏻
Please upload videos for pathologist how can we work in NHS
Sure! In the meantime, check out our article: roadto.uk/AcV7
@road to uk
Please make a video on surgical oncology....
👍
Thank you so much Dr.I have completed Diploma in ophthalmology in India and have 3 years work experience in the same .What are the training programs or job opportunities available in UK suitable for my profile.TIA
You'd need to first decide how you'd get GMC registration.
Dr. Ibrahim, Can I book MRCS PART A with a provisional certificate?
Sir how about peads surgery
Doing fcps in Pakistan in peads surgery 3rd Yr. As the program is 5 Yr. In Pakistan... So how to get peads surgery in UK via mrcs
with core ST, 18 month rule. is this including housejob/intern year? or does the counting start after that does this include allied surgical specialties too, like orthopaedics, and ENT etc? assuming registered doctor means after completion of internship id imagine the count begins after that...... thanks in advance.
It doesn't include internship.
Is frcs mandatory to obtain CCT? I want to how the fellowship exams fit into the whole system
Please make video on surgirical oncology training in uk
Sure!
I Want To Ask What Is The Pathway If An IMG Completes MRCS & Has Less Than 18 Months Experience In Surgery? How Will He Fit Into The Puzzle?
Respected mentors,
Hypothetical situation,
If an IMG completes MRCS ( both parts), gets full GMC registration, completes CREST and alternate core competencies form in her own country, has a halfway decent portfolio,
Can she technically apply directly for an ST3 spot?
You'd only need the alternative form and not CREST, but yes, possible.
What if i do Core surgical training CT 1 & CT 2 but i can't get any higher speciality training means plastic surgery or anything else... Then what happened
Hi, I am writing a comment on behalf of my uncle,
He is a medical graduate from Pakistan, has done FCPS (Fellow of College of Physcians and Surgeons Pakistan) and he has also done FRCS from Dublin but he doesn't have a GMC registration.
Currently he is working as a senior consultant surgeon in Pakistan. How he can work as a surgeon in the UK. ?
Please share your thoughts.
Thank you
Can you please suggest what type of best and cheap course to enroll in training in teaching course to get atleast 2 or 3 points in CST self assessment.!? Thanks in Advance🙏.
The criteria outlined the Basic Surgical Skills course as a useful one.
Is it really so very difficult for a Bangladeshi doctor to secure a training post in UK after completing MRCS? I've heard from doctors who are working in NHS that surgical training in Bagladesh is not recognised by NHS.
I have six months of training in pediatric surgery and nine months of training of urology, general surgery and casualty combined.
Even though I have decided to go for MRCS but it's quiet disheartening at times.
Please help me with my confusion.
Its not any different for you than it would be for any other IMG. You'd need to meet the criteria set out in the application, put together a good portfolio, and apply.
Hi. i just want to clarify things about being over qualified. Let's say if I have more than 18 months experience in general surgery I can apply for a non training job once I passed the mrcs? And if I passed the mrcs, will I have a full gmc registration? Or do I have to passed PLAB tests and mrcs? Thank you doctor for your response.
You can apply for specialty training, as the limit is for CST. MRCS or PLAB will get your GMC registration.
Hi! I’m new to this channel. Are you guys married and both doctors? That’s so cool!!!
Welcome! 😉
Hello Dr Ibrahim. Can you please tell that are we eligible to apply in Plastic Surgery. Will it be the same course or else. For IMGs
What do you mean by same course?
Overall which pathway is easy for an IMG in UK... Mrcp or mrcs? As many people say that it is quite difficult for an IMG to become a surgeon over there as compared to a physician.. Thanking in anticipation
Please see: ruclips.net/video/3pNtcSydPTE/видео.html
hi, i have a question regarding the entry into core surgical training, if i work in a private hospital in Bangladesh for about 2 years in Orthopaedics dept as plab 2 is continuously being delayed, will it be counted as more than 18 months experience? i am working as a medical officer here. Thanks in advance...
If you're working in orthopedics, that is a surgical job, and would count as surgical experience.
thank you
Without mrcs can we eligible to work in uk after general surgery residency
How can we get in to dermatology for post graduation?
Can you work in a non surgical job as a first job in the NHS and then apply for CST ? is it a good idea to do that ?
Yes you can if you wish.
@Roadtouk ..if I complete my Internship in my home country then still do I need to give Plab and Ielts to get registered into GMC...
Yes.
1. After doing Post graduation (MS) in General Surgery in India which is a 3 year course, if I obtain MRCS and pass IELTS, can I join ST3 level directly in general surgery?
2. By doing the above, can I also join some other related specialty such as Surgical Urology at ST3?
Same question @doctor Ibrahim
Do they take us for training jobs.....after postgraduation in india
Or we have to do non training jobs there .....
As mentioned in the video, the pathway for you would be the red one, that is, you HAVE to get alternative core competencies signed off before you can apply for ST3 directly.
Also as I said in the video, it will be unbelievable to get it signed off without ever working in the NHS. That being said, no non-UK training or experience will be automatically recognised as equivalent to CST. It will have to have all the components mentioned in the alternative certificate.
If you can get alternative core surgical competencies and MRCS completed you can apply in any ST3 level of any surgical specialty.
@@RoadToUK Thank you!
Aslam o alaikum.
I have been working as a medical officer in Urology for 8 months,does it include in my surgical experience and if yes ,then would it fall in the criteria of 18 months surgical experience and make me overqualified after 18 months?TIA
Yes.
Iscp loogbook bangladesh teke ki maintain korte parvo ? Ekankar consultant sign korle ogulo ki valid hobe uk te?
Yes.
Is it possible to have more than one subspecialty Like upper G.I. and trauma surgery
You can't couple gen surg with anything else other than what's mentioned in this video.
Is it possible to remain jobless in UK after PLAB 2 passed?
Or there are high chances to get job?
I mean is there any saturation of doctors in UK as well like in Pakistan??
More graduates less jobs ?
1. You can't 'be in the UK' without a job. (provided you don't have a visa to stay and work otherwise).
2. There are still thousands of doctor job available in the NHS - but that doesn't mean they will just take anybody and everybody who just passed PLAB 2. You have to succeed in the job application, interview and recruitment process.
If you can't succeed in that process, you will remain jobless. It will not be the system's fault, it will be your shortcoming in a competitive process.
@@RoadToUK I got it. Brilliant answer.
could you guys do Cardiothoracic surgeryyy??
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one on paediatric/vascular surgery too please?
Sure!
@@RoadToUK and opthalmology please!
Is there any paid service for writing CV for NHS? I am having difficulty with getting a job
You can book a session with us at roadto.uk/session
Can we directly enter into ct1 level without plab for surgery course
How would you be getting your GMC registration?
Does surgical rotations in internship count in 18 months of clinical experience??
No.
I have experience of working as consultant general surgery for 10yrs
I have done Mrcs Ireland and Mrcsed in 2008 and 2011.
I got my GMC registration 6 months ago. How should i proceed.
Thanks
Start by applying for relevant jobs on the NHS jobs profile.
@@RoadToUK so, grateful
I wish I came across this while I was working and collected all the needful during the course of time.. Nevertheless, this brings a lot of clarity. I have a question though; The alternative core competency form that I'd need (having more than 2years of non training surgical experience in my home country, India).. Does it need to be signed by UK consultant during the non training job after I'm done with MRCS or can it be signed by a consultant in India under whom I have worked in the past???
They need to hold GMC registration.
If fresh graduates like me don't have 18months experience but somehow fulfill other criteria, then wouldn't I be able to secure a position in ST3, Brother?
You need to meet all the essential criteria to apply.
What level I will be in after passing MRCS after my FY2?
Please see: ruclips.net/video/SJkSaQ5FApM/видео.html
What about neurosx ? Not included in ST??
This video is about general surgery. We will have neurosurgery separately.
I m pursuing my Post-graduation of Orthopaedics which is 3yrs in India.. after clearing mrcs and getting GMC registration... if i want to continue training in orthopaedics... can i apply for ST3 post in orthopaedics only or i should do Genral surgery in addition to orthopaedics training .??
Thanks
Regards.
ST3 trauma and orthopaedics is a separate specialty than ST3 general surgery.
Ok sir... if i clear mrcs n come to uk with 3yrs of experience in ortho... which posts should i apply for jobs ..??
Regards.
@@kondraguntaavinash347 please check this article: roadto.uk/TImQ/
Is FY2 not necessary for CREST form ??
No.
Sir if we want to do our medical pg in uk then we also need to give plab , or without plab is it possible to study for pg in uk
Please see: ruclips.net/video/OEWSOoTzI6Y/видео.html
How do I apply for IST ? in FY2 OR BEFORE
When you have the competency requirement and meet the person specification.
would you mind doing one for neurosurgery training .
Sure!
@@RoadToUK thanks in advance 🤗🤗
Can you please clarify my doubt,After completion of core surgical training if I want to return to India what will be my position in india.
You would need to check with your local medical regulatory board.
Thank you 🙂