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Why the click bait style headline? At the end of the video you say it’s around a six year payback time. Perhaps the headline should read ‘Put solar on your factory and save loads of money!’ This tactic doesn’t help the energy transition it just puts doubt in people’s minds
I think that the reasoning is this: People who are biased towards solar will watch it because they want to understand how AA could get it so wrong. People who are biased against solar will watch it to get their opinions validated, but by the time they get to the end of the video they will be primed to have their minds changed. It's a classic bait and switch.
My work recently looked at a 3.2mW solar field here in the UK. The repayment time was just over 4 years, and that was selling directly to the grid. So field, design, build etc that was all really easy, getting a grid connection, near impossible
I talked a manufacturing company into trying solar, if for nothing else as a green power PR thing. I knew they operated under a stepped electricity rate that punished them severely for exceeding a certain level at any time during the day. Once exceeded, that price stayed with them until the end of that billing cycle. Their first epiphany came after the initial install when they did not come close to hitting the penalty level. That alone paid off the system. As time went on, the savings were massive since they used electric furnaces and lots of machinery. The next step was 1.5 megawatts. They are still adding solar to every usable roof.
I was waiting for the actual numbers and, to my suprise, no numbers, no costs, no nothing... Adding that would really give an insight in the current costs for business installs.
Thanks for your feedback! We understand the importance of sharing detailed numbers, but due to client confidentiality, we're unable to reveal exact figures. However, we'll aim to provide more general cost insights in future content. Thanks for understanding!
Don't expect anything of substance from Artisan. Hiding behind 'Client Confidentiality ' is his way of not getting shredded in the comments for overcharging. All the information will be publicly available when the 'client' publishes their annual accounts.
You've got a massive roof, and fitting panels to less than half of it. Have you considered fitting more panels, why stop at just covering your own use, not sure on commercial export rates but there must be potential there. If more factory roof's were covered in solar there wouldn't be the need to fill fields with panels.
@@TheRonskiman Sadly the downside of commercial solar is the impact on property rates. If you are deemed a micro supplier there are tax implications - something hopefully the new government will sort out!
There are lots of challenges with commercial solar on these types of buildings. You need a roof condition survey. That is not a drone looking at a roof. That can not tell things like the condition of screws and lap end seals and fillers etc. You need to do a full structural frame assessment. There are lots of frames out there that can not take the load. The only way to tell is a full calculation. I have seen Structural engineers reports saying it should be fine when the Frame assessment to the BS has the roof failing with weight. If all that works then you need careful planning of the panels. Making sure there is sufficient clear space around the roof lights for an operative to work on the roof around the roof light. Ideally avoid going over sheet laps where future maintenance may be required. The other challenge with these issues is roof damage with maintenance of the systems. insurers are now beginning to ask for maintenance records. So annual inspections and testing/cleaning but foot traffic on the roof can cause sheet damage. I have seen this on numerous buildings.
Finding the right AC distribution board is the trickiest part. You need consider if the rating is big enough, space for modification, any spare breaker, cable distance between inverter to distribution board, AC cable routing etc
The design payback for my domestic install is planned to be 6 years as well. So depending on how expensive the installater is, it's possible to be returned that quickly.
For all the people complaining about there being no numbers, there really are alot of variables that go into a quote. But in reality you can be paying anywhere from £600 to £1000 per kWp. Generally gets cheaper per kWp the larger the system. The other big variable is the quality of the installer as there's a lot of cowboys in the industry which will ingnore all health and safety. I work for a large solar pv installer and only last week we had to turn a system off which was a year old because it wasnt safe (not our install) and was lucky there hadn't been a fire already. No offence to artisan on this one but i think your design here is appaling with no consideration for on going maintenance and think you guys should get CDM training. The actual install cost of this should factor in permanent roof light covers and some form of safety system such as a mansafe on the roof, and ideally fixed access to the roof. I understand the temptation to fill a roof with as much as possible but a system should be sized to the usage and factor in maintenance Most of commercial systems will generally pay back with in 5 to 7 years
My pub is using 6-8 MWh per month, due to all of the electrical equipment in the kitchen. The power draw of the building jumps from 5 KW to power all beer and cellar coolers, fridges, freezers, everything in the living accommodation and other bits and bobs constantly, to a massive 30 - 35 KW once the kitchen opens. It's really killing us at the current rates (also negotiated mid crisis.) Unfortunately, our old coaching inn has nowhere near as much roof space as an industrial unit like the one in this video. The actual south facing roof space, which contains the second floor living accomodation, is tiny. With the majority of the roof space being single story, located behind, and blocked by the 2 storey part of the building. :(
You make a great point! The hire cost of a teleporter is definitely more efficient and cost-effective compared to using a slow electric winch and paying for four workers to handle the panels. It’s always worth considering the most time-saving and economical option for projects like this. Thanks for your insight! 👍
@@artisanelectrics A teleporter is a fictional device that allows for rapid transportation using special technology or mental powers I think you are both talking about a telehandler lol
An important and overlooked factor is that we are in an assymmetric start of a transition: electricity generation is ahead of our rise in consumption: BEV's, cooling, heathing, ... Once the real electrification wave of transport has started, nobody will ask whether having periods of cheap solar power is a bad thing. For now, it depends on your consumption vs generation ratio.
You're absolutely right! A six-year payback on a solar installation is not only a strong financial return but also serves as a hedge against future energy price shocks, like those seen post-pandemic. With energy prices becoming increasingly volatile, having a solar system in place means more control over energy costs, allowing businesses to produce their own power and minimize reliance on the grid. This is especially beneficial in the long term, as businesses can avoid steep price hikes or shortages. Moreover, the fixed or near-zero energy costs from solar provide financial predictability, which is a huge advantage in managing operational expenses during times of uncertainty. By shielding themselves from future price fluctuations, businesses also gain energy security, helping them better weather disruptions in the global energy market.
Surely scissor lifts is the way forward here not ladders and scaffold. A long reach cherry picker could even position packs of panels in suitable locations
I presume nobody has suitable training (like IPAF). They could of course use an agency to have one for a couple of days and a cheap labourer. Far cheaper than paying qualified electricians to move a ton of panels.
@@gavjlewis for someone regularly working at heights as a solar installer, I would be amazed they don't have IPAF. Its not even expensive and only a one day course.
You're absolutely right-scissor lifts and cherry pickers are often more efficient, safer, and quicker options compared to ladders and scaffold for commercial solar installations. These types of mobile elevated work platforms (MEWPs) provide easy access to rooftops while reducing the risks associated with working at heights. Scissor lifts allow workers to move equipment and personnel efficiently, while cherry pickers (boom lifts) can offer a long reach to position packs of solar panels in optimal spots, making the installation process smoother. Using such equipment also minimises the need for permanent scaffolding, which can be costly and time-consuming to erect and dismantle, especially for large commercial jobs. Additionally, lifts improve site mobility, enabling crews to cover larger areas faster and allowing flexibility for working around skylights, vents, and other obstacles When possible, integrating these tools into the installation process can significantly enhance both productivity and safety, as MEWPs also provide better access to hard-to-reach areas, reducing the physical strain on workers.
1:02 Who chooses to print white text on a yellow fluorescent jacket? It is barely visible from up close, let alone from far. Instead of using black, so that it is clearly visible.
I enjoyed the video. White is the wrong colour for the Artisan logo on a yellow hi-vis unless you want it to be invisible. A dark colour like black or blue would be far more visible.
When we have to do all of these measures to try and save money. It shows you just how much us Brits are ripped off with our fuel bills. We pay more than any other country in the world for our energy. We are a crazy lot, Instead of protesting we would rather come up with solutions that cost us even more money.
You make a strong point! It’s frustrating that we often have to invest even more just to find ways to reduce our energy bills, especially when fuel costs in the UK are so high compared to many other countries. It can feel like we're paying twice-once for the expensive energy and again for the solutions to cut those costs. While coming up with long-term savings strategies is a step in the right direction, it’s understandable to feel like the system itself needs a serious change. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
It’s true but you do see plenty of solar on commercial premises in Europe and even the US. But we do pay too much for energy. The forced linkage between renewable unit price and fossil fuels is a particular issue. Both the current and the previous govts know about this and have had it on their to do list. For too long now.
Are you looking at the Tax implications. If you create a system that generates more than 50kwh doesn't that trigger a change in the commercial property rates. I calculated the same for my property and decided to install loads of batteries and simply charge them at cheap rate - much better payback than the costs of installing solar. Also the K2 German systems and software is great for determining the deployment of solar and automatically calculates all the cables, connections etc that are required.
It will be switched off after the summer and noone turns it back on again. I wouldn't sell that charger. Replacing it with another 22kw charger could make sense.
Good to see such customer care in action. Seen some poor commercial jobs over the last few years. One thing, putting my commercial property hat on as a Chartered Surveyor, if the building is leased, I'd check if it can be done under the terms of the lease. If it can't, the landlord at the end of the lease could make you remove the installed equipment. Seek friendly profession advice from either a local commercial surveyor or a building surveyor who specialises in dilapidations.
I do like this channel, but the titles are so annoying and unprofessional/clickbait-y. Why not title it as 'Commercial Solar payback periods are amazing - Explained' or something more useful 'Understanding Commercial Solar payback period'
Thanks for your input! I totally understand how clickbait-y titles can feel unprofessional and frustrating. More straightforward and informative titles like "Understanding Commercial Solar Payback Periods" or "Why Commercial Solar Paybacks Are Worth It-Explained" would definitely help set clearer expectations and attract viewers looking for real insights. I'll pass this feedback along-it’s great advice for keeping things engaging without losing credibility. Appreciate you sticking with the channel despite that! 😊
Has anyone looked at a structural survey of the roof, can it actually reliably support that load or does the roof need additional bracing to support the panels, infrastructure and whatever it’s rated snow load is?
That's a very important point! Yes, a structural survey of the roof is always a crucial part of the planning process. We need to ensure that the roof can reliably support the weight of the panels, mounting infrastructure, and account for its rated snow load. If necessary, additional bracing or reinforcements would be factored in to ensure everything is structurally sound and safe. We always include a structural survey as part of our quote. Thanks for highlighting that!
Exterior cabling needs enhanced security. A factory I know of had a live 80A line removed by shysters one weekend. They knew what they were doing and judging by the damage had used a chainsaw to cut though the cable and its supports.
Great video. Moving away from a focus on RTI is something much needed. Especially when no account if taken for asset value in the solar systems. Especially at a domestic level. Keep it up and ignore the frankly daft comments on critique on discussions around a proposal/safety. Experts on the internet are anything but. Especially those called Vino.
Here he is. Everyone's favourite Northern pie eater. We all know why you're keen on apprentices. You and Artisan probably swap photos of them on WhatsApp.
Coming from a power generation background I’m fascinated that solar panels are obsessively fixed to roofs at far from the optimum angle, it’s interesting to note that vertical solar can be very effective and, though giving less in summer, it can provide a better output in winter so the annual variation is slightly reduced !
I don't think it makes a massive difference unless you have a huge system. My house has quite a shallow roof you'd have no chance standing in the loft. In the summer the system tops out and I get good input during the winter especially on clear days I've actually seen our highest ever output during the winter.
It doesn't make as much difference as you'd expect and the extra costs of raising the angle significantly increases costs, and if you're then more than a certain distance above the roof, then you need to get planning permission.
@@andyxox4168 I think it all depends on the scale if you a small system like mine then the hassle of adjusting or putting equipment on the roof that allows easy adjustment probably isn't worth it. If you have a big system a few percent I'd a massive loss but for a small system it's neither here nor there. Like I say I have a shallow roof so the angle is well more suited for summer but I get really good numbers in the winter. Over day obviously the output is lower but full sun during winter I've seen our highest outputs far higher than summer. Could I gain a couple hundred watt a best by adjusting, yeh maybe is it worth it, no probably not. If I gain 5% on a dull day I may gain 0.1 or 0.2 of a kWh at best. On a nice sunny day we max out so little to gain if anything. Plus the fact of them being on a eye soar being at steeo angles like 50 degrees and the higher risk of damage due to poor weather in the winter I can't see it being worth the hassle. Now 5% gain on a 200kw system is a different matter but again is it really worth it. I drive by a large solar Farm regularly and they don't seem to adjust the angles for winter sun when you're talking a few acres and it strictly being a business of profit then why don't they do it? Probably because in the long run it just isn't worth it.
Yes, there are retail products available that allow you to measure the solar photovoltaic (PV) potential of your roof. These devices, often referred to as solar irradiance meters or solar power meters, can be placed on your roof to capture data over time and help you assess the solar energy potential. Here are a couple of options: HOBO Pendant® Data Loggers - These are compact, durable devices that can be mounted on a roof to measure light intensity. While not specifically designed for solar, they can help estimate potential solar gains based on sunlight exposure. Solar Pathfinder - This tool helps measure shading and solar potential by mapping out the sun's path and showing how much sunlight will hit a given spot throughout the year. It's portable and can be placed in different locations to gather accurate data. Solmetric SunEye - This is a more professional device used to measure solar access. It gives detailed analysis of how much sunlight a specific area receives and can be used to estimate energy production. These devices collect data that can help you understand the potential performance of a solar PV system on your roof before you invest in an installation. They're great for anyone looking to do some preliminary research! That being said, with Google Solar API and all the data we have nowadays we can get very accurate estimates using software only.
In this case battery doesn't make sense as they are not even covering their full usage, but backup power may be beneficial if there are essential pieces of equipment and power cuts are common
Great use of the drone, It's amazing how useful drone footage is, I had an issue with my roof (rented accommodation) I sent my drone up (DJI Mini 2) took photo's and showed the landlords maintenance team, I told them I would send the drone AFTER the repair and check, they were quite shocked, called the landlord, I think he told them to repair, rather than 'gloss over' the problem!
That's a fantastic way to use drone technology! Drones like the DJI Mini 2 are becoming incredibly handy tools for property inspections, especially in situations like yours where tenants want to hold maintenance teams accountable. By capturing clear images of the problem areas, you're creating undeniable proof, which makes it harder for the team to "gloss over" issues. It's great that your approach motivated them to do the job properly! Also, using the drone for before-and-after inspections is a smart move. It ensures transparency and gives you peace of mind knowing the work was done right, all without needing to climb up there yourself. Drones are revolutionising how we handle home maintenance-saving time, improving safety, and providing a clear visual record. Nice work using your drone to keep them on track! 👏
please secure those dangerous sections on the roof with railing, they very dangerous and it happened at my work someone fell through it 7 meters down, the problem with those light sections is they not much that vissable on the roof and mistake step is catastrophic, please take all attention!
For the love of god dont just tape the skylights. You should treat them exactly the same as the edge of the roof, you propose hand rail there for a reason, because people can and do fall. Barrier them off or better still install permanent covers. As for getting panels to the roof, get a loading platform with your scaffolding and just telehander them up there. Much quicker and safer.🎉
Just wait until you have to pay for Sun Tax like some jurisdictions are trying to do in Australia. I.e. if you export to the grid, the grid charges you, because the grid doesn't want your export during the middle of the day. Entire solar farms and wind farms are paid to turn off during the middle of the day because rooftop solar is flooding the grid. Aus now has the solar duck curve which California has. Batteries, smart Zappies and EVs are the way to go, to absorb the excess solar.
You're absolutely right-Australia has been facing issues with the "solar duck curve" and has introduced measures like the Sun Tax or export charges in certain regions. This happens because, during the middle of the day, when solar generation is at its peak, the grid is overwhelmed with excess energy, which leads to imbalances and inefficiencies. As a result, some jurisdictions charge solar panel owners for exporting electricity back to the grid, aiming to manage this overproduction. The solar duck curve (named for its shape on a graph) refers to the large gap between energy demand and solar generation during midday, which then surges in the evening when the sun sets and demand spikes. This mismatch can cause problems for grid operators and forces solar farms and wind farms to curtail production or even shut off, as you've mentioned. Batteries, EV's, and smart devices like Zappi (which diverts excess solar energy to charge your EV or heat water) are indeed a smart way to absorb this surplus energy instead of exporting it to the grid. By using storage solutions, homeowners and businesses can keep that energy for their own use during peak times, reducing the strain on the grid and minimising reliance on fossil fuels when solar isn't available This kind of transition underscores the importance of integrating storage solutions into solar systems to avoid future charges and make the most out of renewable energy.
Even if the payback period is greater than 6 years it in my opinion is beholding on companies to fit solar. We need to cut our carbon footprint and we need to stop importing energy to help with our balance of payments. The other point to remember is we have a duty to the next generation it’s time the government legislated that commercial premises fit solar, is see a lot of solar in France on supermarkets and covered parking areas, they seem to be a bit more ahead of the curve.
I completely agree with you! Even if the payback period exceeds 6 years, it's crucial for companies to adopt solar energy. Reducing our carbon footprint and decreasing energy imports are vital steps for a sustainable future and for improving our balance of payments. We absolutely owe it to the next generation to take responsibility now. It would be great to see more government initiatives pushing for solar installations on commercial premises. You're right-France seems to be ahead with solar panels on supermarkets and parking areas. Hopefully, we can catch up soon! 🌍💡
Most premises use the national grid as a de facto battery with little regard to the complications that causes for the grid operators and then call themselves ‘green’ with no regard to the energy mix on the grid!
The thing is, non renewable UK grid electricity is mostly CCGT plants which are pretty cheap to build, but very expensive and polluting to run, this kind of build greatly reducing them running.
@@BooBaddyBig they’re not cheap and the cost of running them is wholly inflated by government taxes and restrictions on gas supply such as importing gas from overseas. Regarding pollution if in your world view CO2 is a pollutant I might agree with you.
It doesn't cause problems for the grid because it is entirely controlled by them. Every commercial installation is assessed by their grid planners through the G99/G100 application process. The DNO (electricity company) decides what (and if) electricity can exported to the grid. They can even require the installation of an interface so that they can make adjustments through the day. Of course it makes financial sense to use the power you generate yourself rather than export it. Hence EV chargers and immersion heaters.
You're absolutely right! Many businesses with solar installations rely on the national grid as a backup, effectively using it as a "battery" by exporting excess energy during the day and importing it when solar generation drops. While this approach makes sense financially due to net metering or feed-in tariffs, it creates challenges for grid operators. The influx of excess solar energy during peak generation times, such as midday, can cause grid instability, leading to overvoltage and requiring costly infrastructure adjustments to manage these energy surges.
Ok admittedly I skipped through a bunch of the video as it was a case of yada yada yada (for me). BUT Last I checked, admittedly not recently, energy efficiency infrastructure spending was 100% tax write off in year 1 (this may have changed). So the additional savings in Company Taxes on TOP of the energy savings will almost certainly be worth it. Pretty sure there are also cheap rate carbon loans depending where your located to assist business in reducing energy consumption. Which will definitely be better than looking at commercial finance schemes. Adding some batteries to the system will almost certainly assist them in balancing the 3 phases and reducing the phase cost aspect of energy. Usual issue is that companies tend to lease buildings rather than own them and the freeholder has zero interest in assisting the leaseholder in reducing energy (currently as there is no requirement for the freeholders to make savings).
The extra cost wouldn't make financial sense. Not only the size but the discharge rates would have to be way over what's common on residential installations
Great question! Yes, cleaning and maintenance costs are important to factor in when considering solar panel installations. While they don’t require too much upkeep, periodic cleaning and occasional maintenance are necessary to keep the system running efficiently. We usually estimate these costs when providing a payback calculation. Thanks for bringing that up!
4:32 shock horror there is other contractors out there that know what there doing on larger scale works…. 10:14 and love the lack of sh2t’s given for roof safety from your manger, at least your potential site accident pre risk assessment and planning process has been documented on line.
Appreciate the feedback! 😅 We definitely work with experienced contractors who know what they’re doing, especially on larger scale projects. And as for the roof safety comment, safety is always a priority, even if it might not have come across that way. We take risk assessments and planning seriously to ensure everyone is protected on-site. Thanks for pointing that out-it's a good reminder to be even clearer about the safety measures we take!
No business should lease panels because it costs more especially when you want to sell or move premises. You haven't mentioned cost because based on the usage and saving it could be up to £150k. If it is so good tell us the cost.
Nice video chap, issue I’m having with a rented system is the owner (a fund) cannot be an energy provider so needs a third party to take that on which erodes the savings. Thankfully our driver is carbon savings more than financial but even then there is a debate about who earns the carbon credits.
Thanks for sharing! It sounds like you're navigating a tricky situation with your rented solar system. Since the system is owned by a third-party fund that isn't legally allowed to sell energy, having to bring in a separate energy provider definitely cuts into your savings. This is a common issue with Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs) or solar leases, where the involvement of multiple parties can make things more complex and affect the overall financial benefit. It’s great to hear that your main motivation is carbon savings, but you're right-there can be a debate about who owns the carbon credits. In many cases, the credits can go to the system owner (the fund), but sometimes businesses can negotiate to retain those credits to count toward their own carbon reduction goals. It's worth reviewing your contract to see if there's any flexibility around this, especially if you're keen to claim those credits for your sustainability reporting. If reducing your carbon footprint is the primary goal, you might still be winning in the long run, but it’s definitely worth discussing how to structure agreements in a way that maximizes both environmental and financial benefits!
@@artisanelectrics we should have a chat about the programme of works we are just about to start. you'd find it really interesting and may be some collaboration in it too.
I appreciate your feedback! The focus of this video was more on the overall installation process rather than specific numbers due to client confidentiality. I understand how actual figures would add more value, so I'll aim to include general cost ranges in future videos. Thanks for watching and for your input! 🙏
A disappointing video. Even if actual costs are not shared all of the underlying assumptions used for the system design and payback calculation could have been provided. Only indicating the payback based on a lease option raises more concerns due to leases having many conditions and penalties associated with them. What would have been the payback period if the customer had chosen to purchase the equipment and pay for everything upfront. Next time consider developing a "theoretical case" and share all of the information so the viewer can clearly see and understand the total situation.
A stupid clickbait headline is just hurting your reputation. You can do an amazing job for this company and you should be shouting that from the rooftops. Don't play games!
Thanks for your feedback! I understand that including numbers would make the video more valuable and informative. Unfortunately, due to client confidentiality, we couldn’t share specific figures in this case. I’ll definitely aim to provide more general cost insights in future content to give a clearer picture. Appreciate your input!
Ever since Green energy appeared my bills have done nothing but rise can't remember needing a price cap when we burned coal. You'd think after £35 billion worth of wind turbines energy prices would at least be stable.
Why would they lower prices? The price gouging and greedflation will persist no matter how you get your energy. Any change is just an excuse to raise that bill. Even when oil shipments hadn't affected their overhead yet during covid they raised prices. This has almost nothing to do with green energy. Edit: Well if where you are doesn't have green energy then the utility company could be making you pay for their decreased profits because with more green energy some plants will be cycled down more often and anyone still getting their energy the old way is basically going to make their customers pay for the reduction in market share.
Electricity prices are so high because they are based upon the cost of gas generation, if they were based upon the cost of onshore wind they would be a fraction of the price. Incidentally, if fossil fuel companies were forced to pay for the damage their carbon output is causing the planet, the cost of fossil fuel generation would be far greater.
We needed the price cap to stop the power companies cheating the customers that do not switch supplier rabidly. Which is almost everyone. Same old story in many sectors that can do it. Insurance banking etc. Cheat the loyal customer. The cap is there to stop them overcharging one group and subsidising the switchers so they can make out 'well we had cheaper sleazy 'deals' you should have found them'. Knowing full well almost everyone is not up to the manic chopping and changing. Of course this led to the raft of 'new' suppliers going broke all at once when they only had the switchers as customers and little leeway.
10 years ago I did a bit of consultancy work for a renewables company who were getting into solar PV. They fitted the first few 20 & 50Kwh systems. I noticed recently that all those original customers are now running well over 200kwh, having added to their original systems. It’s obvious they’ve seen the benefits
I do hope you have thought this one through. Lengthy g99 application. They will dictate how much you can have . Probably will involve a g99 protection relay that you have no experience of . Those skylights need meshing over and the roof needs mansafe and permanent perimeter scaffold for maintenance. You are fussing over 29kw of ev charging . Far bigger problems on a job of this size
You're absolutely right-there's a lot more to consider with a project of this scale beyond the 29 kW of EV charging. The G99 application process can indeed be lengthy and complex. It regulates how much energy you can export back to the grid, and depending on the system size, the Distribution Network Operator (DNO) will likely dictate the maximum capacity. If you're dealing with higher-capacity systems, the inclusion of a G99 protection relay is common. These relays are essential to ensure safe grid disconnection in the event of faults, but they do require expertise, which might be new to some installers. As for the skylights and roof safety, you're spot on again-meshing over skylights, installing a mansafe system, and having permanent perimeter scaffolding for maintenance are all critical for both safety and compliance. This ensures regular maintenance can be performed without the risk of accidents, especially on a large commercial project. The focus on the EV charging is understandable, but with larger infrastructure projects like this, the grid connection, safety measures, and ongoing maintenance are indeed the bigger challenges that need careful planning. Thanks for pointing these out-it's always best to consider the full scope of a project like this!
In fact for commercial applications (where the cost of scaffolding/access is a relatively small part of the cost) the pay-back is almost always remarkably fast - less than 2 years in a lot of cases. In the UK electricity costs have gone up massively, whilst PV panels are the cheapest they have ever been. That is why the title of this video is so irritating.
You raise two key concerns about solar energy systems: payback and recycling. Payback Period: It's true that the payback on solar installations can be lengthy, particularly when using professional installers. While doing it yourself can reduce costs, there are still factors like installation fees, permits, and maintenance to consider, which can stretch the time it takes to see a return on investment. For most commercial systems, the payback period averages between 6 to 10 years, depending on location, subsidies, and energy consumption. Recycling Solar Panels: Solar panel waste is a growing concern. Panels generally last 25-30 years, but the industry is now facing the challenge of recycling them effectively. While it's possible to recycle 80-90% of a panel's materials, the infrastructure and processes for recycling are still underdeveloped in many areas. Without proper systems in place, old panels could create significant waste. These are real challenges for solar energy adoption that need more attention as the industry grows.
Insulation won't help initially but is so neglected in the round. So also are rooves to weak for solar? Great videos - still to many rubbish stories saying solar is a con! Keep up the good work
Thanks for your support! You're absolutely right-insulation is often overlooked but plays a crucial role in overall energy efficiency. Strengthening roofs for solar can sometimes be necessary, but it's not always a deal-breaker. Solar is definitely not a con, and with the right planning and setup, it can be a great long-term solution. Appreciate your positive feedback, and I’ll keep working to clear up those misconceptions about solar! 💡🌞
Covid was the convenient excuse to rip everyone off. I'm not saying there were not genuine supply and cost issues, but electricity companies are price gouging. Before writing off a board as being full, it's best to remove the covers and visually inspect. In my experience, sometimes MCB's are left in the on position but have no cables connected to them. Some circuits might be deleted or unused and may provide a spare way or two. Crammed full boards are so common though. I would always leave about a 3rd as expansion space. I'm out of the industry at the moment, but most of my experience was offshore, but I remember a few years of absolutely manic council rewires on price work in London. It paid well, but it was flat out from morning to evening. My labourer was a Russian speaker and he worked like a slave, but his English was not good. I started to learn Russian just to make things easier. Even though we were under a lot of pressure, we had a lot of fun too. I miss the game sometimes. I've never done any solar installs, but am thinking of a large system for our house. I've been skeptical about this whole "green" movement and the man made climate story, but I remain a strong believer in efficiency and cheap renewable power. Not that it's renewable, but I'm a fan of nuclear power. Especially the 4th gen safer technology. Whatever method we gain power, the absolute bottom line is that we need more, and the more decentralised, the better. Energy security is really important. I also like the fact that Solar has become more efficient and there are more creative ways to use it. I have some battery concerns and their risk of fire and explosion. I like the idea of mechanical batteries or sand batteries. Great content as usual. Loving your channel.
Jeezus wept. There are still people out there who think that climate change isn’t real. Just look at the news, look at pictures of glaciers, study a bit of science… just wake up!
It’s great to hear you're considering solar for your home and appreciate the growing flexibility and creativity in how solar is being used. It sounds like you have a well-rounded approach to energy, combining efficiency with a keen eye on emerging technologies. Thanks for engaging with the content, and glad you're enjoying the channel!
Absolutely, you're right! It's important to follow all the necessary codes for roof access and leave proper walkways around the panels. It's not just about maximising the number of panels-safety and compliance are key. Thanks for pointing that out! 👍
I noticed the drone is over 250g, which can not be flown near buildings let alone over , without the advanced drone qualification and authorisation, and liability insurance, how legal was this flight ?
Ok I was thinking you might be the company that could come and give us a price on our factory roof, well this was until Tom said you could just tape around the skylights... I am sure health and safety will say yes you did everything you could to stop your engineer from falling to his death... also the fact that you used a totaly misleading title, like come on people wanted the figures!
I wonder if a customer would consider reconfiguring the roof to remove skylights and reroute venting, or installing panels on the building’s walls or as canopies in the car park to increase the solar coverage, or whether that just wouldn’t be cost effective. I also wonder if some of these commercial sites might not be better off with geothermal solutions for better all year round supply if the geology is suitable - trial systems seem to generate commercial levels of energy
Great thoughts! Reconfiguring the roof to remove skylights or reroute venting could potentially increase solar coverage, but the cost-effectiveness would depend on the scope of work and the energy gains. Installing panels as carport canopies is another solid option for maximising space, especially if roof space is limited. As for geothermal energy, you're spot on! It can provide a more consistent year-round supply compared to solar, especially for commercial sites with suitable geology. Trial systems have shown promising results for generating substantial energy, so for the right location, geothermal could be a fantastic complement or alternative to solar. It’s definitely worth exploring! Not so much an option in the UK though!
The Uk sits in a precarious situation where we have huge demand for energy when the sun doesn’t shine. For that reason solar pv is a huge challenge whether it be commercial or domestic. It has its place in providing some energy but not all the energy that is needed and the cost of installation and servicing of it may not make it viable at all.
Most premises use the national grid as a de facto battery with little regard to the complications that causes for the grid operators and then call themselves ‘green’ with no regard to the energy mix on the grid!
Commercial installs...you have to be careful of. Loading issues...can the roof take the weight? Sky lights....can they be worked around safely? There is a skylight retro fit frame with chainlink that can be fitted for fall arest that covers the sky light without blocking the light. Cleaning the panels...good old pigeon and sea gull poop!! Is there a man safe system on the roof for this? Not to mention the reams of H&S before, during and after the install. RAMS...you gotta love them😂
A rip off would be offering a system that doesn't stand the test of time. We only provide high quality, bespoke solutions which are built to last - which is why we are more expensive than many who can't offer that level of service.
@@artisanelectrics You're talking rubbish as usual. Your business won't even exist in the solar PV industry in 5 years time. To pretend your bespoke designs (all generated by software) and excessive labour costs offer extra value is completely disingenuous. You're a laughing stock amongst the solar PV installation industry.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I understand how it might have felt like clickbait, and I’ll definitely take that on board. The intention was to provide useful insights, but I’ll work on making future content more direct and informative. Appreciate your feedback!
I see your point, but solar technology is actually advancing all the time! While it might feel like things have plateaued, researchers are constantly working on improving efficiency, storage solutions, and making solar panels more affordable and adaptable. From next-gen solar cells to innovative battery systems, the industry is definitely evolving. So, we might not be able to say "once and for all" just yet-there’s always something new on the horizon! 🌞🔋
did you quote this based on winter numbers or summer numbers i.e. peak power? because you did not cover all the roof and had room still! and yes he noted its rare to run the factory of a night time but need to look at the batteries to take advantage of the excess power and feed the grid and make money
Great point! Since they’re only generating about 40% of their energy needs, feeding excess power back to the grid wouldn’t make sense-the export price is lower than the import price. Plus, half the building is owned by another company, which is why we didn’t cover the entire roof. In this case, using the power directly is more cost-effective. Thanks for bringing that up! 😊
payback in 6 years. Very expensive! Is it string based or are you using 'optizimers' that only optimizes your profit? And in 5 years time, they need to be replaced?
Optimisers make a system like this much safer and more efficient, SolarEdge optimisers have a long life span and warranty which is why we use them for certain projects.
@@artisanelectrics Perhaps, but the big solarfarms do not use them. They use strings attached to an inverter. They calculate their ROI quite careful and do not want to waste manpower to change a broken optimizer. In the case of a roof, you have to send people onto the roof to change a faulty one. Takes a lot of money in 5-7 years time.
I get where you're coming from! The word "ecosystem" in tech often implies interconnected products or services that can lead to added complexity and costs over time. Companies that create "ecosystems" typically encourage you to buy into their entire range of products, which can lock you into that brand and potentially make maintenance or future upgrades expensive or tricky. While ecosystems can offer convenience and integration, they do sometimes come with the downside of proprietary solutions that might lead to compatibility issues or costly fixes later on. If you prefer simplicity and flexibility, focusing on more open, standalone solutions might be the better approach!
@@artisanelectrics yea in my experience(not just with charging equipment) it means proprietary units that play well with each other and work great together but many companies that did this 10 years down the line didn't exist anymore OR didn't support the older system anymore which meant a complete removal of the system if anything went wrong and total replacement, every company thinks they are going to be the standard in the future or be forever in business
Thanks for the feedback, and I understand your frustration! You're right-the video was meant to provide an overview of whether the building is suitable for a solar installation, not dive into specific installation details. I’ll pass along the suggestion to make titles more clear and aligned with the actual content to avoid any confusion in the future. Appreciate you pointing this out! 🙏
BS 7671:2018 (18th Edition) clarifies that if a water pipe entering a building is made of plastic (PVC) or has an insulating section at the point of entry, there's no need to bond it to the main earthing terminal, even if the internal pipework is copper. This is because the plastic section prevents the pipe from acting as an extraneous-conductive-part, meaning it won't introduce an earth potential that needs to be bonded. However, if metallic pipes are in contact with the ground elsewhere in the installation, or if they are buried in conductive material, further assessment is needed to determine if bonding is required Always consider performing a proper risk assessment and continuity testing to ensure safety when in doubt.
Yes I realise that, however in the video you say that it’s a safety feature even though the incoming water pipe is plastic, and that it’s connected to the MET as there are metallic pipes in the installation, I merely pointed out that BS7671 411.3.1.2 (Note) which says : Where non-metallic pipes (e.g. plastic) enter a building and are then connected to metallic pipes within the building, the metallic pipes within the building do not normally require equipotential bonding as they are unlikely to be extraneous conductive parts.
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click bait title, says a lot about your inner thoughts, it speaks of dishonesty, is this something that you want to cultivate
Why the click bait style headline?
At the end of the video you say it’s around a six year payback time.
Perhaps the headline should read ‘Put solar on your factory and save loads of money!’
This tactic doesn’t help the energy transition it just puts doubt in people’s minds
He's expensive and has no clue on roofs
Take it back. Thank god tomorrow was there
in less than 2 years something will break
I think that the reasoning is this:
People who are biased towards solar will watch it because they want to understand how AA could get it so wrong.
People who are biased against solar will watch it to get their opinions validated, but by the time they get to the end of the video they will be primed to have their minds changed.
It's a classic bait and switch.
@@markbooth3066 yeah and bait and switch is clickbait lol but it served its purpose so fair play
My work recently looked at a 3.2mW solar field here in the UK. The repayment time was just over 4 years, and that was selling directly to the grid.
So field, design, build etc that was all really easy, getting a grid connection, near impossible
did you mean 3.2 megawatts or 3.2 miliwatts
I talked a manufacturing company into trying solar, if for nothing else as a green power PR thing. I knew they operated under a stepped electricity rate that punished them severely for exceeding a certain level at any time during the day. Once exceeded, that price stayed with them until the end of that billing cycle. Their first epiphany came after the initial install when they did not come close to hitting the penalty level. That alone paid off the system. As time went on, the savings were massive since they used electric furnaces and lots of machinery. The next step was 1.5 megawatts. They are still adding solar to every usable roof.
I was waiting for the actual numbers and, to my suprise, no numbers, no costs, no nothing...
Adding that would really give an insight in the current costs for business installs.
Thanks for your feedback! We understand the importance of sharing detailed numbers, but due to client confidentiality, we're unable to reveal exact figures. However, we'll aim to provide more general cost insights in future content. Thanks for understanding!
Don't expect anything of substance from Artisan. Hiding behind 'Client Confidentiality ' is his way of not getting shredded in the comments for overcharging. All the information will be publicly available when the 'client' publishes their annual accounts.
Actually if you listen to the video you got plenty from it.
Energy usage, how much they hoped to generate, and a payback term, the rest is just maths.
@@sjaguartype There's not a single monetary figure mentioned in the video other than "thousands of pounds".
@@VinoVeritas_ you are right they don’t, it is called commercial sensitivity,but the figures are there , just not in pounds and pence
Thanks to the Artisan Team for coming round and scoping out our site and showing the benefits of solar - was great to meet you guys!
You’re welcome, thanks for having us! 😁👍
You've got a massive roof, and fitting panels to less than half of it. Have you considered fitting more panels, why stop at just covering your own use, not sure on commercial export rates but there must be potential there. If more factory roof's were covered in solar there wouldn't be the need to fill fields with panels.
C*nts working together for free advertising of each others scams
@@TheRonskiman Sadly the downside of commercial solar is the impact on property rates. If you are deemed a micro supplier there are tax implications - something hopefully the new government will sort out!
@@jonathanallen985 That really doesn't encourage bigger installations does it. Don't count on this government sorting it out either.
There are lots of challenges with commercial solar on these types of buildings. You need a roof condition survey. That is not a drone looking at a roof. That can not tell things like the condition of screws and lap end seals and fillers etc. You need to do a full structural frame assessment. There are lots of frames out there that can not take the load. The only way to tell is a full calculation. I have seen Structural engineers reports saying it should be fine when the Frame assessment to the BS has the roof failing with weight. If all that works then you need careful planning of the panels. Making sure there is sufficient clear space around the roof lights for an operative to work on the roof around the roof light. Ideally avoid going over sheet laps where future maintenance may be required. The other challenge with these issues is roof damage with maintenance of the systems. insurers are now beginning to ask for maintenance records. So annual inspections and testing/cleaning but foot traffic on the roof can cause sheet damage. I have seen this on numerous buildings.
panels are lightweight apparatus usually mounted on aluminium frames, not heavy machinery
Another clickbait..
Yep - cheap title.
Typical of Artisan
Finding the right AC distribution board is the trickiest part. You need consider if the rating is big enough, space for modification, any spare breaker, cable distance between inverter to distribution board, AC cable routing etc
White on Yellow DOESN'T Work
it does if want pale yellow
Yeah that was the best we could do at short notice LOL
You didn't mention anything about the structural engineers report. Pretty important step before deciding on solar on large commercial buildings.
Absolutely
The design payback for my domestic install is planned to be 6 years as well. So depending on how expensive the installater is, it's possible to be returned that quickly.
For all the people complaining about there being no numbers, there really are alot of variables that go into a quote. But in reality you can be paying anywhere from £600 to £1000 per kWp. Generally gets cheaper per kWp the larger the system.
The other big variable is the quality of the installer as there's a lot of cowboys in the industry which will ingnore all health and safety. I work for a large solar pv installer and only last week we had to turn a system off which was a year old because it wasnt safe (not our install) and was lucky there hadn't been a fire already.
No offence to artisan on this one but i think your design here is appaling with no consideration for on going maintenance and think you guys should get CDM training. The actual install cost of this should factor in permanent roof light covers and some form of safety system such as a mansafe on the roof, and ideally fixed access to the roof. I understand the temptation to fill a roof with as much as possible but a system should be sized to the usage and factor in maintenance
Most of commercial systems will generally pay back with in 5 to 7 years
My pub is using 6-8 MWh per month, due to all of the electrical equipment in the kitchen. The power draw of the building jumps from 5 KW to power all beer and cellar coolers, fridges, freezers, everything in the living accommodation and other bits and bobs constantly, to a massive 30 - 35 KW once the kitchen opens. It's really killing us at the current rates (also negotiated mid crisis.)
Unfortunately, our old coaching inn has nowhere near as much roof space as an industrial unit like the one in this video. The actual south facing roof space, which contains the second floor living accomodation, is tiny. With the majority of the roof space being single story, located behind, and blocked by the 2 storey part of the building. :(
I find it a little strange that every technical area is just a few meters from paint and flammable material, aren't there fire safety regulations?
The hire cost of a teleporter is far less than using a slow electric winch and four mens wages waiting around to carry the panels to the roof.
crazy
You make a great point! The hire cost of a teleporter is definitely more efficient and cost-effective compared to using a slow electric winch and paying for four workers to handle the panels. It’s always worth considering the most time-saving and economical option for projects like this. Thanks for your insight! 👍
@@artisanelectrics Stop using ChatGPT to write your comments. If you genuinely value your viewers' comments, then give them a proper answer.
@@artisanelectrics A teleporter is a fictional device that allows for rapid transportation using special technology or mental powers
I think you are both talking about a telehandler lol
An important and overlooked factor is that we are in an assymmetric start of a transition: electricity generation is ahead of our rise in consumption: BEV's, cooling, heathing, ... Once the real electrification wave of transport has started, nobody will ask whether having periods of cheap solar power is a bad thing. For now, it depends on your consumption vs generation ratio.
as if!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A six year payback is great, but this will also shield them against another price shock like they experienced at the end of the pandemic.
You're absolutely right! A six-year payback on a solar installation is not only a strong financial return but also serves as a hedge against future energy price shocks, like those seen post-pandemic. With energy prices becoming increasingly volatile, having a solar system in place means more control over energy costs, allowing businesses to produce their own power and minimize reliance on the grid.
This is especially beneficial in the long term, as businesses can avoid steep price hikes or shortages. Moreover, the fixed or near-zero energy costs from solar provide financial predictability, which is a huge advantage in managing operational expenses during times of uncertainty.
By shielding themselves from future price fluctuations, businesses also gain energy security, helping them better weather disruptions in the global energy market.
Surely scissor lifts is the way forward here not ladders and scaffold. A long reach cherry picker could even position packs of panels in suitable locations
Was thinking the same thing.
I presume nobody has suitable training (like IPAF). They could of course use an agency to have one for a couple of days and a cheap labourer. Far cheaper than paying qualified electricians to move a ton of panels.
@@gavjlewis for someone regularly working at heights as a solar installer, I would be amazed they don't have IPAF. Its not even expensive and only a one day course.
You're absolutely right-scissor lifts and cherry pickers are often more efficient, safer, and quicker options compared to ladders and scaffold for commercial solar installations. These types of mobile elevated work platforms (MEWPs) provide easy access to rooftops while reducing the risks associated with working at heights. Scissor lifts allow workers to move equipment and personnel efficiently, while cherry pickers (boom lifts) can offer a long reach to position packs of solar panels in optimal spots, making the installation process smoother.
Using such equipment also minimises the need for permanent scaffolding, which can be costly and time-consuming to erect and dismantle, especially for large commercial jobs. Additionally, lifts improve site mobility, enabling crews to cover larger areas faster and allowing flexibility for working around skylights, vents, and other obstacles
When possible, integrating these tools into the installation process can significantly enhance both productivity and safety, as MEWPs also provide better access to hard-to-reach areas, reducing the physical strain on workers.
We do have IPAF
1:02 Who chooses to print white text on a yellow fluorescent jacket?
It is barely visible from up close, let alone from far. Instead of using black, so that it is clearly visible.
Noted!
I enjoyed the video. White is the wrong colour for the Artisan logo on a yellow hi-vis unless you want it to be invisible. A dark colour like black or blue would be far more visible.
Thanks! I totally agree!
When we have to do all of these measures to try and save money. It shows you just how much us Brits are ripped off with our fuel bills. We pay more than any other country in the world for our energy. We are a crazy lot, Instead of protesting we would rather come up with solutions that cost us even more money.
You make a strong point! It’s frustrating that we often have to invest even more just to find ways to reduce our energy bills, especially when fuel costs in the UK are so high compared to many other countries. It can feel like we're paying twice-once for the expensive energy and again for the solutions to cut those costs. While coming up with long-term savings strategies is a step in the right direction, it’s understandable to feel like the system itself needs a serious change. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
It’s true but you do see plenty of solar on commercial premises in Europe and even the US. But we do pay too much for energy. The forced linkage between renewable unit price and fossil fuels is a particular issue. Both the current and the previous govts know about this and have had it on their to do list. For too long now.
Are you looking at the Tax implications. If you create a system that generates more than 50kwh doesn't that trigger a change in the commercial property rates. I calculated the same for my property and decided to install loads of batteries and simply charge them at cheap rate - much better payback than the costs of installing solar. Also the K2 German systems and software is great for determining the deployment of solar and automatically calculates all the cables, connections etc that are required.
Waste of time running the charge points on excess solar.
The reps will object to slow or no charging.
They will have to work at full capacity.
It will be switched off after the summer and noone turns it back on again.
I wouldn't sell that charger. Replacing it with another 22kw charger could make sense.
Good to see such customer care in action. Seen some poor commercial jobs over the last few years. One thing, putting my commercial property hat on as a Chartered Surveyor, if the building is leased, I'd check if it can be done under the terms of the lease. If it can't, the landlord at the end of the lease could make you remove the installed equipment. Seek friendly profession advice from either a local commercial surveyor or a building surveyor who specialises in dilapidations.
ban landlords instead
Great comment, thanks!
@@artisanelectrics You are welcome. I do find your channel very informative, so thank you.
I do like this channel, but the titles are so annoying and unprofessional/clickbait-y. Why not title it as 'Commercial Solar payback periods are amazing - Explained' or something more useful 'Understanding Commercial Solar payback period'
Thanks for your input! I totally understand how clickbait-y titles can feel unprofessional and frustrating. More straightforward and informative titles like "Understanding Commercial Solar Payback Periods" or "Why Commercial Solar Paybacks Are Worth It-Explained" would definitely help set clearer expectations and attract viewers looking for real insights.
I'll pass this feedback along-it’s great advice for keeping things engaging without losing credibility. Appreciate you sticking with the channel despite that! 😊
Headline grabbing , big flat roof of course it makes sense to do it. He could get local government funding as well.
Painful video to watch
@@artisanelectrics Its good to know that AI is running this channel now. This response is obviously done by AI
Has anyone looked at a structural survey of the roof, can it actually reliably support that load or does the roof need additional bracing to support the panels, infrastructure and whatever it’s rated snow load is?
That's a very important point! Yes, a structural survey of the roof is always a crucial part of the planning process. We need to ensure that the roof can reliably support the weight of the panels, mounting infrastructure, and account for its rated snow load. If necessary, additional bracing or reinforcements would be factored in to ensure everything is structurally sound and safe. We always include a structural survey as part of our quote. Thanks for highlighting that!
i remember my electric bill going up more than 200%
Ouch 😫
Exterior cabling needs enhanced security. A factory I know of had a live 80A line removed by shysters one weekend. They knew what they were doing and judging by the damage had used a chainsaw to cut though the cable and its supports.
Great video. Moving away from a focus on RTI is something much needed. Especially when no account if taken for asset value in the solar systems. Especially at a domestic level. Keep it up and ignore the frankly daft comments on critique on discussions around a proposal/safety. Experts on the internet are anything but. Especially those called Vino.
Here he is. Everyone's favourite Northern pie eater. We all know why you're keen on apprentices. You and Artisan probably swap photos of them on WhatsApp.
Coming from a power generation background I’m fascinated that solar panels are obsessively fixed to roofs at far from the optimum angle, it’s interesting to note that vertical solar can be very effective and, though giving less in summer, it can provide a better output in winter so the annual variation is slightly reduced !
I don't think it makes a massive difference unless you have a huge system. My house has quite a shallow roof you'd have no chance standing in the loft. In the summer the system tops out and I get good input during the winter especially on clear days I've actually seen our highest ever output during the winter.
@@HA05GER yes it does make a massive difference. Run the numbers and you’ll see that in the U.K. winter the sun is a 22deg !
It doesn't make as much difference as you'd expect and the extra costs of raising the angle significantly increases costs, and if you're then more than a certain distance above the roof, then you need to get planning permission.
@@andyxox4168 I think it all depends on the scale if you a small system like mine then the hassle of adjusting or putting equipment on the roof that allows easy adjustment probably isn't worth it. If you have a big system a few percent I'd a massive loss but for a small system it's neither here nor there. Like I say I have a shallow roof so the angle is well more suited for summer but I get really good numbers in the winter. Over day obviously the output is lower but full sun during winter I've seen our highest outputs far higher than summer. Could I gain a couple hundred watt a best by adjusting, yeh maybe is it worth it, no probably not. If I gain 5% on a dull day I may gain 0.1 or 0.2 of a kWh at best. On a nice sunny day we max out so little to gain if anything. Plus the fact of them being on a eye soar being at steeo angles like 50 degrees and the higher risk of damage due to poor weather in the winter I can't see it being worth the hassle. Now 5% gain on a 200kw system is a different matter but again is it really worth it. I drive by a large solar Farm regularly and they don't seem to adjust the angles for winter sun when you're talking a few acres and it strictly being a business of profit then why don't they do it? Probably because in the long run it just isn't worth it.
bi facing panels too
Is their a retail product I can tape to my roof to just measure PV potential? As in I just pop it up there and wait for data?
Yes, there are retail products available that allow you to measure the solar photovoltaic (PV) potential of your roof. These devices, often referred to as solar irradiance meters or solar power meters, can be placed on your roof to capture data over time and help you assess the solar energy potential.
Here are a couple of options:
HOBO Pendant® Data Loggers - These are compact, durable devices that can be mounted on a roof to measure light intensity. While not specifically designed for solar, they can help estimate potential solar gains based on sunlight exposure.
Solar Pathfinder - This tool helps measure shading and solar potential by mapping out the sun's path and showing how much sunlight will hit a given spot throughout the year. It's portable and can be placed in different locations to gather accurate data.
Solmetric SunEye - This is a more professional device used to measure solar access. It gives detailed analysis of how much sunlight a specific area receives and can be used to estimate energy production.
These devices collect data that can help you understand the potential performance of a solar PV system on your roof before you invest in an installation. They're great for anyone looking to do some preliminary research!
That being said, with Google Solar API and all the data we have nowadays we can get very accurate estimates using software only.
For commercial, would battery storage and back up power supply important to them? Is there a backup that could maintain the machinery they are using?
In this case battery doesn't make sense as they are not even covering their full usage, but backup power may be beneficial if there are essential pieces of equipment and power cuts are common
Great use of the drone, It's amazing how useful drone footage is, I had an issue with my roof (rented accommodation) I sent my drone up (DJI Mini 2) took photo's and showed the landlords maintenance team, I told them I would send the drone AFTER the repair and check, they were quite shocked, called the landlord, I think he told them to repair, rather than 'gloss over' the problem!
That's a fantastic way to use drone technology! Drones like the DJI Mini 2 are becoming incredibly handy tools for property inspections, especially in situations like yours where tenants want to hold maintenance teams accountable. By capturing clear images of the problem areas, you're creating undeniable proof, which makes it harder for the team to "gloss over" issues. It's great that your approach motivated them to do the job properly!
Also, using the drone for before-and-after inspections is a smart move. It ensures transparency and gives you peace of mind knowing the work was done right, all without needing to climb up there yourself. Drones are revolutionising how we handle home maintenance-saving time, improving safety, and providing a clear visual record. Nice work using your drone to keep them on track! 👏
Crain the gear onto the roof, and do you have to do a engineers load report on the roof structure for commercial buildings
Shame it was a waste of money, was going to look at putting solar on my warehouse.
Do you factor in future maintenance costs at point of sale?
Have you considered south facing wall for more panels?
please secure those dangerous sections on the roof with railing, they very dangerous and it happened at my work someone fell through it 7 meters down, the problem with those light sections is they not much that vissable on the roof and mistake step is catastrophic, please take all attention!
We will make sure everybody is safe for these jobs!
Does the system consumption/generation also cover the Saturday/Sunday/public holidays that they aren't working?
Yes absolutely - its important to factor these things in
For the love of god dont just tape the skylights. You should treat them exactly the same as the edge of the roof, you propose hand rail there for a reason, because people can and do fall. Barrier them off or better still install permanent covers.
As for getting panels to the roof, get a loading platform with your scaffolding and just telehander them up there. Much quicker and safer.🎉
Just wait until you have to pay for Sun Tax like some jurisdictions are trying to do in Australia. I.e. if you export to the grid, the grid charges you, because the grid doesn't want your export during the middle of the day. Entire solar farms and wind farms are paid to turn off during the middle of the day because rooftop solar is flooding the grid. Aus now has the solar duck curve which California has. Batteries, smart Zappies and EVs are the way to go, to absorb the excess solar.
You're absolutely right-Australia has been facing issues with the "solar duck curve" and has introduced measures like the Sun Tax or export charges in certain regions. This happens because, during the middle of the day, when solar generation is at its peak, the grid is overwhelmed with excess energy, which leads to imbalances and inefficiencies. As a result, some jurisdictions charge solar panel owners for exporting electricity back to the grid, aiming to manage this overproduction.
The solar duck curve (named for its shape on a graph) refers to the large gap between energy demand and solar generation during midday, which then surges in the evening when the sun sets and demand spikes. This mismatch can cause problems for grid operators and forces solar farms and wind farms to curtail production or even shut off, as you've mentioned.
Batteries, EV's, and smart devices like Zappi (which diverts excess solar energy to charge your EV or heat water) are indeed a smart way to absorb this surplus energy instead of exporting it to the grid. By using storage solutions, homeowners and businesses can keep that energy for their own use during peak times, reducing the strain on the grid and minimising reliance on fossil fuels when solar isn't available
This kind of transition underscores the importance of integrating storage solutions into solar systems to avoid future charges and make the most out of renewable energy.
Even if the payback period is greater than 6 years it in my opinion is beholding on companies to fit solar. We need to cut our carbon footprint and we need to stop importing energy to help with our balance of payments. The other point to remember is we have a duty to the next generation it’s time the government legislated that commercial premises fit solar, is see a lot of solar in France on supermarkets and covered parking areas, they seem to be a bit more ahead of the curve.
who isnt
I completely agree with you! Even if the payback period exceeds 6 years, it's crucial for companies to adopt solar energy. Reducing our carbon footprint and decreasing energy imports are vital steps for a sustainable future and for improving our balance of payments. We absolutely owe it to the next generation to take responsibility now. It would be great to see more government initiatives pushing for solar installations on commercial premises. You're right-France seems to be ahead with solar panels on supermarkets and parking areas. Hopefully, we can catch up soon! 🌍💡
Most premises use the national grid as a de facto battery with little regard to the complications that causes for the grid operators and then call themselves ‘green’ with no regard to the energy mix on the grid!
The thing is, non renewable UK grid electricity is mostly CCGT plants which are pretty cheap to build, but very expensive and polluting to run, this kind of build greatly reducing them running.
@@BooBaddyBig they’re not cheap and the cost of running them is wholly inflated by government taxes and restrictions on gas supply such as importing gas from overseas.
Regarding pollution if in your world view CO2 is a pollutant I might agree with you.
It doesn't cause problems for the grid because it is entirely controlled by them. Every commercial installation is assessed by their grid planners through the G99/G100 application process. The DNO (electricity company) decides what (and if) electricity can exported to the grid. They can even require the installation of an interface so that they can make adjustments through the day. Of course it makes financial sense to use the power you generate yourself rather than export it. Hence EV chargers and immersion heaters.
You're absolutely right! Many businesses with solar installations rely on the national grid as a backup, effectively using it as a "battery" by exporting excess energy during the day and importing it when solar generation drops. While this approach makes sense financially due to net metering or feed-in tariffs, it creates challenges for grid operators. The influx of excess solar energy during peak generation times, such as midday, can cause grid instability, leading to overvoltage and requiring costly infrastructure adjustments to manage these energy surges.
@@Watt_Energy_Saver … did I mention ruin the DNOs?
I said grid and generation as I recall.
Ok admittedly I skipped through a bunch of the video as it was a case of yada yada yada (for me).
BUT
Last I checked, admittedly not recently, energy efficiency infrastructure spending was 100% tax write off in year 1 (this may have changed). So the additional savings in Company Taxes on TOP of the energy savings will almost certainly be worth it.
Pretty sure there are also cheap rate carbon loans depending where your located to assist business in reducing energy consumption. Which will definitely be better than looking at commercial finance schemes.
Adding some batteries to the system will almost certainly assist them in balancing the 3 phases and reducing the phase cost aspect of energy.
Usual issue is that companies tend to lease buildings rather than own them and the freeholder has zero interest in assisting the leaseholder in reducing energy (currently as there is no requirement for the freeholders to make savings).
Battery storage and peak shaving can add a huge amount to commercial solar installs
The extra cost wouldn't make financial sense. Not only the size but the discharge rates would have to be way over what's common on residential installations
Doesn't make sense if it's only daytime use.
@@CyberlightFG it always depends
A system of this size it doesnt make sense, if the system was much bigger and they could export then potentially yes
Did you factor in the cost of cleaning and maintenance of the solar panels etc etc
Great question! Yes, cleaning and maintenance costs are important to factor in when considering solar panel installations. While they don’t require too much upkeep, periodic cleaning and occasional maintenance are necessary to keep the system running efficiently. We usually estimate these costs when providing a payback calculation. Thanks for bringing that up!
4:32 shock horror there is other contractors out there that know what there doing on larger scale works…. 10:14 and love the lack of sh2t’s given for roof safety from your manger, at least your potential site accident pre risk assessment and planning process has been documented on line.
Appreciate the feedback! 😅 We definitely work with experienced contractors who know what they’re doing, especially on larger scale projects. And as for the roof safety comment, safety is always a priority, even if it might not have come across that way. We take risk assessments and planning seriously to ensure everyone is protected on-site. Thanks for pointing that out-it's a good reminder to be even clearer about the safety measures we take!
No business should lease panels because it costs more especially when you want to sell or move premises. You haven't mentioned cost because based on the usage and saving it could be up to £150k. If it is so good tell us the cost.
Garbage without John and Cory
If you have a gas supply you would be better fitting a chp , free Heat for the building and export what you don't use 😊
Interesting that solar over the car park wasn’t discussed. Always enjoy the content so just curious
Nice video chap, issue I’m having with a rented system is the owner (a fund) cannot be an energy provider so needs a third party to take that on which erodes the savings. Thankfully our driver is carbon savings more than financial but even then there is a debate about who earns the carbon credits.
Thanks for sharing! It sounds like you're navigating a tricky situation with your rented solar system. Since the system is owned by a third-party fund that isn't legally allowed to sell energy, having to bring in a separate energy provider definitely cuts into your savings. This is a common issue with Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs) or solar leases, where the involvement of multiple parties can make things more complex and affect the overall financial benefit.
It’s great to hear that your main motivation is carbon savings, but you're right-there can be a debate about who owns the carbon credits. In many cases, the credits can go to the system owner (the fund), but sometimes businesses can negotiate to retain those credits to count toward their own carbon reduction goals. It's worth reviewing your contract to see if there's any flexibility around this, especially if you're keen to claim those credits for your sustainability reporting.
If reducing your carbon footprint is the primary goal, you might still be winning in the long run, but it’s definitely worth discussing how to structure agreements in a way that maximizes both environmental and financial benefits!
@@artisanelectrics we should have a chat about the programme of works we are just about to start. you'd find it really interesting and may be some collaboration in it too.
I was wondering how wood battery fit in to this to? when man have low, high price
Clickbait title, no actual numbers were shown or spoken of, what's the point of this video?
I appreciate your feedback! The focus of this video was more on the overall installation process rather than specific numbers due to client confidentiality. I understand how actual figures would add more value, so I'll aim to include general cost ranges in future videos. Thanks for watching and for your input! 🙏
Wrong all the numbers were given, you just didn’t listen
class video can you give me advice on good domestics install with battery system 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Disappointed no numbers or costs in this video. I know every install is different but be good to know round about numbers
A disappointing video. Even if actual costs are not shared all of the underlying assumptions used for the system design and payback calculation could have been provided. Only indicating the payback based on a lease option raises more concerns due to leases having many conditions and penalties associated with them. What would have been the payback period if the customer had chosen to purchase the equipment and pay for everything upfront. Next time consider developing a "theoretical case" and share all of the information so the viewer can clearly see and understand the total situation.
A stupid clickbait headline is just hurting your reputation. You can do an amazing job for this company and you should be shouting that from the rooftops. Don't play games!
Sparks won’t bite the hand that feeds them.We knew the answer.Their all the same.
in English please, it dont translate well
Is there not an overall benefit to you business in being connected to more sustainable source of energy
Nice project.
Thanks!
Pointless video without numbers!
Thanks for your feedback! I understand that including numbers would make the video more valuable and informative. Unfortunately, due to client confidentiality, we couldn’t share specific figures in this case. I’ll definitely aim to provide more general cost insights in future content to give a clearer picture. Appreciate your input!
No Lee and the guys doing work again. Well, Nagy is back and @NBundyElectrical is knocking it out of the park these days.
Nagy who? Lee & Team back on camera in an upcoming episode, stay tuned!
Ever since Green energy appeared my bills have done nothing but rise can't remember needing a price cap when we burned coal. You'd think after £35 billion worth of wind turbines energy prices would at least be stable.
Why would they lower prices? The price gouging and greedflation will persist no matter how you get your energy. Any change is just an excuse to raise that bill. Even when oil shipments hadn't affected their overhead yet during covid they raised prices.
This has almost nothing to do with green energy.
Edit: Well if where you are doesn't have green energy then the utility company could be making you pay for their decreased profits because with more green energy some plants will be cycled down more often and anyone still getting their energy the old way is basically going to make their customers pay for the reduction in market share.
Electricity prices are so high because they are based upon the cost of gas generation, if they were based upon the cost of onshore wind they would be a fraction of the price.
Incidentally, if fossil fuel companies were forced to pay for the damage their carbon output is causing the planet, the cost of fossil fuel generation would be far greater.
We needed the price cap to stop the power companies cheating the customers that do not switch supplier rabidly. Which is almost everyone.
Same old story in many sectors that can do it. Insurance banking etc. Cheat the loyal customer.
The cap is there to stop them overcharging one group and subsidising the switchers so they can make out 'well we had cheaper sleazy 'deals' you should have found them'. Knowing full well almost everyone is not up to the manic chopping and changing.
Of course this led to the raft of 'new' suppliers going broke all at once when they only had the switchers as customers and little leeway.
10 years ago I did a bit of consultancy work for a renewables company who were getting into solar PV. They fitted the first few 20 & 50Kwh systems.
I noticed recently that all those original customers are now running well over 200kwh, having added to their original systems.
It’s obvious they’ve seen the benefits
*kWp, not kWh or kwh
@@BooBaddyBigWtf is KWp?
@@BooBaddyBig Sorry you’re correct I used the wrong term. 👍
@@zaxmaxlax sorry I meant kWp, I think it autocorrected
@@BooBaddyBig kw(?)
hyped up installer prices is the issue lol (not directed at you)
Lots of hype in this industry for sure
@@artisanelectrics what we are waiting for is the A.I Cordless Hyper power haha
I do hope you have thought this one through. Lengthy g99 application. They will dictate how much you can have . Probably will involve a g99 protection relay that you have no experience of .
Those skylights need meshing over and the roof needs mansafe and permanent perimeter scaffold for maintenance.
You are fussing over 29kw of ev charging . Far bigger problems on a job of this size
You're absolutely right-there's a lot more to consider with a project of this scale beyond the 29 kW of EV charging. The G99 application process can indeed be lengthy and complex. It regulates how much energy you can export back to the grid, and depending on the system size, the Distribution Network Operator (DNO) will likely dictate the maximum capacity. If you're dealing with higher-capacity systems, the inclusion of a G99 protection relay is common. These relays are essential to ensure safe grid disconnection in the event of faults, but they do require expertise, which might be new to some installers.
As for the skylights and roof safety, you're spot on again-meshing over skylights, installing a mansafe system, and having permanent perimeter scaffolding for maintenance are all critical for both safety and compliance. This ensures regular maintenance can be performed without the risk of accidents, especially on a large commercial project.
The focus on the EV charging is understandable, but with larger infrastructure projects like this, the grid connection, safety measures, and ongoing maintenance are indeed the bigger challenges that need careful planning. Thanks for pointing these out-it's always best to consider the full scope of a project like this!
Unless doing it self, the whole thing doesn't pay back.
The most ignored is the waste after the panels need to be recycled.
In fact for commercial applications (where the cost of scaffolding/access is a relatively small part of the cost) the pay-back is almost always remarkably fast - less than 2 years in a lot of cases. In the UK electricity costs have gone up massively, whilst PV panels are the cheapest they have ever been. That is why the title of this video is so irritating.
You raise two key concerns about solar energy systems: payback and recycling.
Payback Period: It's true that the payback on solar installations can be lengthy, particularly when using professional installers. While doing it yourself can reduce costs, there are still factors like installation fees, permits, and maintenance to consider, which can stretch the time it takes to see a return on investment. For most commercial systems, the payback period averages between 6 to 10 years, depending on location, subsidies, and energy consumption.
Recycling Solar Panels: Solar panel waste is a growing concern. Panels generally last 25-30 years, but the industry is now facing the challenge of recycling them effectively. While it's possible to recycle 80-90% of a panel's materials, the infrastructure and processes for recycling are still underdeveloped in many areas. Without proper systems in place, old panels could create significant waste.
These are real challenges for solar energy adoption that need more attention as the industry grows.
@@Watt_Energy_Saver it doesn't include the convertor and ensurance.
Insulation won't help initially but is so neglected in the round. So also are rooves to weak for solar? Great videos - still to many rubbish stories saying solar is a con! Keep up the good work
Thanks for your support! You're absolutely right-insulation is often overlooked but plays a crucial role in overall energy efficiency. Strengthening roofs for solar can sometimes be necessary, but it's not always a deal-breaker. Solar is definitely not a con, and with the right planning and setup, it can be a great long-term solution. Appreciate your positive feedback, and I’ll keep working to clear up those misconceptions about solar! 💡🌞
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Pure, pure SCAM
Covid was the convenient excuse to rip everyone off. I'm not saying there were not genuine supply and cost issues, but electricity companies are price gouging.
Before writing off a board as being full, it's best to remove the covers and visually inspect. In my experience, sometimes MCB's are left in the on position but have no cables connected to them. Some circuits might be deleted or unused and may provide a spare way or two. Crammed full boards are so common though. I would always leave about a 3rd as expansion space. I'm out of the industry at the moment, but most of my experience was offshore, but I remember a few years of absolutely manic council rewires on price work in London. It paid well, but it was flat out from morning to evening. My labourer was a Russian speaker and he worked like a slave, but his English was not good. I started to learn Russian just to make things easier. Even though we were under a lot of pressure, we had a lot of fun too. I miss the game sometimes.
I've never done any solar installs, but am thinking of a large system for our house. I've been skeptical about this whole "green" movement and the man made climate story, but I remain a strong believer in efficiency and cheap renewable power. Not that it's renewable, but I'm a fan of nuclear power. Especially the 4th gen safer technology. Whatever method we gain power, the absolute bottom line is that we need more, and the more decentralised, the better. Energy security is really important. I also like the fact that Solar has become more efficient and there are more creative ways to use it. I have some battery concerns and their risk of fire and explosion. I like the idea of mechanical batteries or sand batteries.
Great content as usual. Loving your channel.
Jeezus wept. There are still people out there who think that climate change isn’t real. Just look at the news, look at pictures of glaciers, study a bit of science… just wake up!
It’s great to hear you're considering solar for your home and appreciate the growing flexibility and creativity in how solar is being used. It sounds like you have a well-rounded approach to energy, combining efficiency with a keen eye on emerging technologies. Thanks for engaging with the content, and glad you're enjoying the channel!
Check the various codes for roof access, walkways around panels etc. It's not a matter of cramming in as many panels as possible.
Isn’t that the whole point ? To put as many panels on as you can which obviously means leaving walking space and access points .
Absolutely, you're right! It's important to follow all the necessary codes for roof access and leave proper walkways around the panels. It's not just about maximising the number of panels-safety and compliance are key. Thanks for pointing that out! 👍
Which 'codes'? Using such a term tells me you're not in the UK, or if you are, you don't work in the industry.
I noticed the drone is over 250g, which can not be flown near buildings let alone over , without the advanced drone qualification and authorisation, and liability insurance, how legal was this flight ?
Our drone operator has all the required licenses and qualifications, insurances etc.
Ok I was thinking you might be the company that could come and give us a price on our factory roof, well this was until Tom said you could just tape around the skylights...
I am sure health and safety will say yes you did everything you could to stop your engineer from falling to his death...
also the fact that you used a totaly misleading title, like come on people wanted the figures!
Those who think it is clickbait, reward them with a dislike
I've just unsubscribed due to this click bait s*ite..
Very good idea - you wouldn’t want to see any of the other terrible clickbait content we have coming soon…
I wonder if a customer would consider reconfiguring the roof to remove skylights and reroute venting, or installing panels on the building’s walls or as canopies in the car park to increase the solar coverage, or whether that just wouldn’t be cost effective. I also wonder if some of these commercial sites might not be better off with geothermal solutions for better all year round supply if the geology is suitable - trial systems seem to generate commercial levels of energy
Great thoughts! Reconfiguring the roof to remove skylights or reroute venting could potentially increase solar coverage, but the cost-effectiveness would depend on the scope of work and the energy gains. Installing panels as carport canopies is another solid option for maximising space, especially if roof space is limited.
As for geothermal energy, you're spot on! It can provide a more consistent year-round supply compared to solar, especially for commercial sites with suitable geology. Trial systems have shown promising results for generating substantial energy, so for the right location, geothermal could be a fantastic complement or alternative to solar. It’s definitely worth exploring! Not so much an option in the UK though!
The Uk sits in a precarious situation where we have huge demand for energy when the sun doesn’t shine. For that reason solar pv is a huge challenge whether it be commercial or domestic. It has its place in providing some energy but not all the energy that is needed and the cost of installation and servicing of it may not make it viable at all.
Most premises use the national grid as a de facto battery with little regard to the complications that causes for the grid operators and then call themselves ‘green’ with no regard to the energy mix on the grid!
Precisely
You do great work mate but stop this carbon footprint bollocks, it's a massive scam that people just mindlessly go along with
Commercial installs...you have to be careful of. Loading issues...can the roof take the weight? Sky lights....can they be worked around safely? There is a skylight retro fit frame with chainlink that can be fitted for fall arest that covers the sky light without blocking the light. Cleaning the panels...good old pigeon and sea gull poop!! Is there a man safe system on the roof for this? Not to mention the reams of H&S before, during and after the install. RAMS...you gotta love them😂
Absolutely!
Why hide how much he's paying? I'm not going to tell anyone?
Because Artisan will be ripping him off.
A rip off would be offering a system that doesn't stand the test of time. We only provide high quality, bespoke solutions which are built to last - which is why we are more expensive than many who can't offer that level of service.
@@artisanelectrics You're talking rubbish as usual. Your business won't even exist in the solar PV industry in 5 years time. To pretend your bespoke designs (all generated by software) and excessive labour costs offer extra value is completely disingenuous. You're a laughing stock amongst the solar PV installation industry.
Just 18 min click bait advertising
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I understand how it might have felt like clickbait, and I’ll definitely take that on board. The intention was to provide useful insights, but I’ll work on making future content more direct and informative. Appreciate your feedback!
"Once and for all!" Because there's no new technology being worked on in the solar sector.
batteries have changed at least 3 times the last few years
I see your point, but solar technology is actually advancing all the time! While it might feel like things have plateaued, researchers are constantly working on improving efficiency, storage solutions, and making solar panels more affordable and adaptable. From next-gen solar cells to innovative battery systems, the industry is definitely evolving. So, we might not be able to say "once and for all" just yet-there’s always something new on the horizon! 🌞🔋
did you quote this based on winter numbers or summer numbers i.e. peak power? because you did not cover all the roof and had room still! and yes he noted its rare to run the factory of a night time but need to look at the batteries to take advantage of the excess power and feed the grid and make money
Great point! Since they’re only generating about 40% of their energy needs, feeding excess power back to the grid wouldn’t make sense-the export price is lower than the import price. Plus, half the building is owned by another company, which is why we didn’t cover the entire roof. In this case, using the power directly is more cost-effective. Thanks for bringing that up! 😊
payback in 6 years. Very expensive! Is it string based or are you using 'optizimers' that only optimizes your profit? And in 5 years time, they need to be replaced?
Also, the company probably doesn't own the building, and who knows whether they will even want to be there in a few years to come.
Optimisers make a system like this much safer and more efficient, SolarEdge optimisers have a long life span and warranty which is why we use them for certain projects.
@@artisanelectrics Perhaps, but the big solarfarms do not use them. They use strings attached to an inverter. They calculate their ROI quite careful and do not want to waste manpower to change a broken optimizer. In the case of a roof, you have to send people onto the roof to change a faulty one. Takes a lot of money in 5-7 years time.
as soon as I hear the word eco-system I tune out, eco-system means expensive problems later on.
not really, you can create your own eco system
I get where you're coming from! The word "ecosystem" in tech often implies interconnected products or services that can lead to added complexity and costs over time. Companies that create "ecosystems" typically encourage you to buy into their entire range of products, which can lock you into that brand and potentially make maintenance or future upgrades expensive or tricky. While ecosystems can offer convenience and integration, they do sometimes come with the downside of proprietary solutions that might lead to compatibility issues or costly fixes later on.
If you prefer simplicity and flexibility, focusing on more open, standalone solutions might be the better approach!
@@artisanelectrics yea in my experience(not just with charging equipment) it means proprietary units that play well with each other and work great together but many companies that did this 10 years down the line didn't exist anymore OR didn't support the older system anymore which meant a complete removal of the system if anything went wrong and total replacement, every company thinks they are going to be the standard in the future or be forever in business
Stupid click bait title😢 shame on you, this video was an overview if this building is suitable for solar install.
Thanks for the feedback, and I understand your frustration! You're right-the video was meant to provide an overview of whether the building is suitable for a solar installation, not dive into specific installation details. I’ll pass along the suggestion to make titles more clear and aligned with the actual content to avoid any confusion in the future. Appreciate you pointing this out! 🙏
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This Chanel is so boring now it’s gone right downhill with the content
Since when did it became a requirement to bond incoming water pipe if PVC regardless or internal copper pipework? BS7671 411.3.1.2 (note)
That's what I was thinking!
BS 7671:2018 (18th Edition) clarifies that if a water pipe entering a building is made of plastic (PVC) or has an insulating section at the point of entry, there's no need to bond it to the main earthing terminal, even if the internal pipework is copper. This is because the plastic section prevents the pipe from acting as an extraneous-conductive-part, meaning it won't introduce an earth potential that needs to be bonded.
However, if metallic pipes are in contact with the ground elsewhere in the installation, or if they are buried in conductive material, further assessment is needed to determine if bonding is required
Always consider performing a proper risk assessment and continuity testing to ensure safety when in doubt.
Yes I realise that, however in the video you say that it’s a safety feature even though the incoming water pipe is plastic, and that it’s connected to the MET as there are metallic pipes in the installation, I merely pointed out that BS7671 411.3.1.2 (Note) which says : Where non-metallic pipes (e.g. plastic) enter a building and are then connected to metallic pipes within the building, the metallic pipes within the building do not normally require equipotential bonding as they are unlikely to be extraneous conductive parts.
Let me guess 30 kW Canadian solar 465 W N - Type dual glass....???? kW inverter 3 phase Fronius ECO, EWP ....some Tesla PW 2 as need to get rid of old stock, Radiant racking.....trim deck.....and big bad add of Solar web for garnish 🦘🦘🦘🦘