2024 Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT: You get what you vote for.
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In process of @Porsche updating the Porsche Cayenne to the E3.2 generation, they left one Cayenne somewhat unchanged - save for the body. Which one? The 2024 Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT. It retains its original 4.0 Twin Turbo V8, but they optimized the 631 HP derivation to bless us with 19 more HP, bringing the total to 650 HP! After driving it, MotoMan learns more than he bargained for, including some challenges facing the future for cars like the Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT.
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Of course there are a lot of extra options for this vehicle. Just head over to the Porsche optimizer and take a look. Some of the more expensive options are Thermal and noise insulated glass, Burmeister, Night vision assist, Electric roll-up blind, Passenger display as well as others I have not mentioned. I think the sheet you were referring to was the particular build you were testing. Unfortunately right now the vehicle is on a Porsche Stop-sale for a safety issue. Hopefully that will be addressed in the next month or two.
You’re a good uncle to pick up your nephew in such a sensible vehicle. Nothing ostentatious about this thing at all. Keep up the great content sir!
Lee, I am sharing your comment with his parents:)
Thank you, as ever, for your unique take on vehicles and vehicle reviews.
Please note that, the ZF 8-speed can be calibrated in a wide variety of ways - up to and surpassing the capabilities of a dual-clutch transmission. In terms of speed, feel, and efficiency, there is no disadvantage of the ZF 8HP to a dual-clutch transmission. Its function and performance all comes down to the calibration (of the transmission control unit; TCU). Some 8HP calibrations are much more crisp, responsive, and feelsome than dual-clutch transmissions / calibrations (and vice versa). Think M5 CS or Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio; which offer far more crisp shifts than a Golf R or PDK-equipped 997.2 911 turbo, for example. However, you can't say that about a 330i's 8HP calibration.
The 8HP has multiple clutches that offer overlapping shifts, without torque interruption, just like a dual-clutch does. It can also be calibrated to provide a 'kick', on upshifts, and under higher loads. It can also directly - and not sequentially - downshift to any gear (within rev range), 6-2, 6-4, 5, 3, 5-2, for example, or any other combination. In some cases, a dual-clutch transmission will incur a downshift delay - if a target gear is on the same gear set as the current gear or if it has pre-selected a higher gear and conditions change and a downshift is requested at that time. The 8HP has no such inherent disadvantage. And, in many applications, the torque converter is only used at a standstill or near-standstill - as when 'creeping' forward or at the very early stages of accelerating from a standstill. Otherwise, the torque converter clutch locks up, from as early as 800 rpm, when accelerating, and stays locked, through gear shifts - essentially forming a direct connection, from the engine to the transmissions output shaft. The latest 8HP generations are also lighter and more efficient than equivalent dual-clutches. As of late, the only time a dual-clutch transmission is advantageous is for mid-engined vehicles (as the 8HP is generally too long for such applications) or in vehicles with engines with an RPM range significantly above ~8,000.
And, this is all without naming any of the capabilities that the 8HP has that a dual-clutch transmission is incapable of.
Otherwise, what many complain about or perceive as impediments / flaws (of an 8HP) are generally the doing of the TCU calibration; and not the hardware itself.
Appreciate the detailed response and explanation. This would also go a long way to explaining the difference between the ZF 8 speed in the Jaguar and in the BMW.
Excellent description and explanation. I havevthe previous version Turbo, and was immediately impressed with the performance of the transmission. It shifts so quickly and compared to my wife’s pdk in her Macan, I have always preferred my autobox in my CT. Now I know why, even though it’s not as great as the new one, thanks to your breakdown.
One of if not my all time fav videos you've ever put out. Reason: The no-doubt-whatsoever / no-filter reaction you provided once you took off in it. Almost felt like I was behind the wheel myself. Love it!
Beautiful vehicle. What a badass Cayenne. It amazes me that at over 5000 lbs. it’s faster to 60 mph than a CT5V Blackwing with an automatic trans (not that that is the Caddy’s strongpoint). Of course paying over $200K should buy you a lot of stuff…
I road passenger in one of these and it was the most amazing ride ever.
Yup, my first new car was a '78 Trans Am. You could get it with 14 or 15" wheels. Gotta love that brakes are larger than that now.
If I would buy a performance SUV - it would be this one! Great car. Thank you George for bringing us into the Recaro Seat - we are living in awesome times - top peak of any kind of gas powered vehicles. Smart Uncle trick btw. it is the cousin of the Urus, so.....technically you satisfied both parties! Congrats. The XM review was great too and the design sticks out compared to the Cayenne which blends in. Its good to have choices!
How is the ride quality compared to cayenne S or an X5M in comfort mode?
Thank you for a deep and excellent review of this beauty! This "car" is on my wish list, and Arctic gray is a crazy beautiful color!!
This has got to be the best vehicle you’ve driven. I didn’t hear any negative reactions/remarks about the vehicle.
No, this is: ruclips.net/video/HwKAHPSUdhw/видео.html
This is the ultimate soccer mom SUV. And, yes, I wish I had it (the SUV).
“Holy crap, it’s like your hair is on fire!” 😂
excellent video well done and you do a great job! Can get these in New Zealand and I'm mr. America but I think I'd still buy the Urus Performante over this
Your subscriptions are surprisingly low. You are really good at this.
Who tows anything in a Turbo GT and how can a tow hitch be accommodated with the central exhaust design anyway?
Awesome review man!!😊
My pleasure!
Ti Kanis, my friend! Another great review! I love the GT, but it loses the utility factor IMO with no factory towing hitch available, even just for mounting a bike rack per se. The treadwear rating on those grippy tires probably means you are replacing them annually, too. I will stick with my 22' Turbo non-coupe (with a hitch) for the time being. 😎👍🏼
All of your videos bring a smile, but this one is special. I have had two Cayenne's but never one that is dynamic. Being 80 years old, I probably never will. Easy driving is now my future. This Porsche needs to be run hard to be happy.
Another great episode. Another great SUV better than the Urus
It also gets 18 mpg which is great considering its power towing and overall weight.
very good suv good test video.
I own one...LOVE IT.
Lucky you. In your country just 200k. As mentioned we can’t buy the 2023 model in Europe. The old model GT costs a bit more then of €300k so that is $330k in basic trim. With a few options it is $380k.
I thought you cannot add a tow hitch due to exhaust design?
Accessory hitch for mountain bike rack?🤔
Just saw this car on the freeway and it’s fire
Great video, but just as a pointer here in Qatar we can option it to a 5 seater.
Any chance of a 2024 BMW X5M review coming soon?
We already have this live . . . ruclips.net/video/P21gjHXDVxw/видео.html
@@MotoManTVI’ve watched that twice. Was hoping for a driving review, nobody seems to be getting any wheel time with the 2024. I’ve got one scheduled to be built last week of August and would have liked to see some impressions before I get it.
And available in South Africa .... yeah I know its strange that Porsche keep us further down under in mind too.....😊
Your biiig smile in the thumbnail says it all. 😁
It is really beautiful I like it. It’s better than the xm
Nice crossover.
"Tiptronic for the towing" which is unfortunate for a vehicle that can't be specced with the trailer hitch
I was lucky enough to get one of the last PTS orders in since mid 22. Porsche froze out all paint to sample orders. I had delivered a velvet purple metallic ‘23. It is so stunning. They have the PTS option on the digital sight but are canceling the PTS portion of orders. Notice when you pick a PTS color the spec picture changes to a horrible green. I guess a warning that you can’t get custom colors.
Ugh. Ask me in a couple of months about this.
The best SUV in the world❤
The most important question is, did it get your nephew's seal of approval?
By the way, I do agree with your observation regarding the paintjob, I'm halfway across the world from you, M, and all the ones I saw were in this exact same color.
He LOVED it! However, I took him on our weekly classic car drive and gave him a choice: Ride in the Turbo GT or anything from MotoMan Studio A. Any guesses what he picked?
@@MotoManTV BEST. UNCLE. EVER.
Hmmmmmm? it better be the Lexus, the Gullwing or the Ferrari.
I hope they fixed the transfer case issues by now.
For an SUV it's an amazing achievement. Not my cup of tea, and vastly different from my manual 992, but if you need a fast SUV it's great. I just wish they kept the analog tach.
The facelift turbo GT will not be available in europe at all?
No EU member states.
Getting an order slot on these bad boys is pretty hard to find these days. Even if you do, dealers are asking for 20K over MSRP - and I’m not even in CA or anything!
that gap on the hood/driver side wheel well, looks like the same GAP on my 2007 monte carlo with 270,000 miles LOL. watch at 11:48 I see the same GAP everyday.
Alright Motoman.. the 2024 Cayenne e-hybrid coupé is next to showcase!
On the list and already have a request in . . . not yet in the fleet here in LA.
This (or the upcoming Turbo e-hybrid) vs the XM Red Label would be a decent comparo if you were'nt able to score a Urus or Purosangue.
We need hood scoops on the Turbo GT
Motoman! Climate change is the most existential threat to our planet every 12 years since the beginning of the 1900s! We need to take this stuff seriously!
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Magnificent
Yup. This over XM
Needs the PDK transmission. Towing capacity is irrelevant in this vehicle and doesn’t explain it having the Tiptronic transmission. A tow hitch can’t even be optioned
It is a function of the larger Cayenne line up. Yes, folks do tow with these when they are not Turbo GTs. The cost of engineering a PDK for one VERY low volume variation of the overall Cayenne line up would most likely not make financial sense. That said, my proposal in this episode was for the larger VW group to steal some budget from Bentley and Lamborghini, invest the engineering a PDK into this platform that would make its way into the Urus, Bentayga and Cayenne GT.
@@MotoManTV I am in full agreement with your PDK proposal. That said, and I’m contradicting myself, I’d option a tow hitch if I could because I need to mount a bike rack, haha. Love your channel!
Ostentatious all day, every day :))
Absolutely brilliant! Uncle of the month and year.
Seeing his face when I stepped on the gas was award enough:)
@@MotoManTV Even as a grown man that's worth the price of admission. Your expression of how quick it is and how well it handles is something all the rest of us tap into. If a car can make a grown man laugh like a school boy, how can you put a price on that?
Kinda looks blue sitting in the shade there.
In Europe they ruined this an added E-hybrid. Ups the hp to 739hp, but also adds a lot of not wanted weight
Excitement for Motoman,not much for Greta.😂
Great car,
great price😮,
great review,THANKS YOU Mr. Motoman!
Name of color?
This dashboard is the biggest turnoff in the new Cayenne; it looks utiliterian to me like you are riding a fresh pickup
Huh! There actually is a Porsche dealer in New Caledonia. Who knew!!!
This is available in Europe specially here in the Uk
King Suv love it ❤❤❤❤
Honest review
I made a huge mistake when I bought the 2022 plug in Cayenne when I got the comfort seats instead of sports seats. My ass is sliding all over the place when turning. Plus now I have back issues as well and the seat is just not comfortable. My wife’s Ford S-Max is much much better 😭😭😭
I like it 🔥
How come you would feel the same after getting hit by the bricks and 2x4😊
I almost bout a 2021 model . Glad I did not, I still have the 958.2 TTS , I save my self from going to jail and tons of money in speeding tickets . I still dream of this GT . Maybe in a few years as a CPO . It’s by far best of its class yes including the jimmy come lately the other horse from Italy .
YEAH BABY!!!!
The f pace svr all the way.. half the price & looks amazing.
Dynamically, not half the car this is. Would rather do a lower end, second hand Cayenne than an F Pace SVR.
F pace svr slow the X5M destroys it lol
Thanks!
Thank you, Lee . . . going to put this straight to my fuel budget. Why? Well, you can imagine this car put hell of dent in it:)
@@MotoManTV Absolutely! I just finally noticed that you put this option on your channel. I don’t know how I missed that before. Unfortunately that will buy you one mile worth of range for that magnificent Porsche in the California Republic.
good one
I see we are attempting to remain comfortably numb for lack of a better term.
It is possible to look past this trendy reliance on the Gray color palette, as dreary as they may seem. However, are we really just going to continually ignore the bronze wheels? After all, it is a Porsche _not_ a Subaru, and it's 2023 - not the early 00's.
Nevertheless, I stand by my previous statement.
Lastly, may we formally and respectfully request a review of the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio? Either the previous generation or the current refresh. I am sure the viewers would cherish your thoughts on the Alfa platform versus the *competition. Please and thank you.
Stay classy my friend.
*EDITED for grammar.
Hi Bert! Yes, would love to feature a Quadrifoglio yet here's the issue: Stellantis does not take this show seriously. Good, bad or indifferent, timely access to these cars do have a huge impact on our bottom line. Get a car too late, and we lose money on the production. Do that too often, we cease to exist. That is why you see brands that we have good working relationships with. We have made multiple overtures to the folks in Auburn Hills but they have no interest in fixing it. Until that changes, we have to politely decline the request. That said, yes, we did feature two Jeeps recently on the show, but that was entirely a function of our role within the World Car Awards organization.
@@MotoManTV That is some interesting information to say the least.
Being a juror for the WCA certainly has its advantages. My compliments for achieving such an accolade by the way.
However, I had no idea it was so complicated working with Stellantis. Perhaps they will change their mind in the near future. Especially if they hope to see Alfa Romeo maintain a presence here in the US.
Appreciate the clarification my friend.
Tested 0 to 60 in 2.7 seconds
OHH SANTA MARIA MADRE DE GOD!OHH SAN JUDAS TADEO!!!!!!SUCH A LOVELY POSHE!!!!!!!!!
Id take one. If i could afford it 😢
They say it is faster than the Urus. They say it handles better than the Urus. They say this is the better option. All these arguments mean nothing to me compared to the Urus, but i respect Porsche.
Respect your honesty.
I prefer the looks of the Urus tho
It is available in Moldova, and Moldova is in Europe
Moldova was only granted 'candidate' status for the EU last year with an eye towards joining by 2030. As such, it is not yet governed by EU emission mandates.
Crazy this car cost over $400k AUD
I hate this isn’t available with 2+1 back seat. I got 3 kids.
This vs XM?! Is this even a serious question? Listen, I am hugE BMW fan. I presently own 12 of them and I have over over 25 of them in my life time. However, iI was hugely disappointed by the XM. Red Line or not. This Turbo GT, on the other hand, is nearly perfect. The only reason why I am not buying one is because our URUS S is due to be delivered to us in NOV 2023 and with Lamborghini you get fancier interiors and greater color choices. By the way, instead of the hideous XM, I am just gonna go ahead and buy another XB7. Same money as the Red Line but much classier and an overall a better product than the XM of any kind.
You get what you vote for sans the automotive lobby’s wishes. That’s why CAFE standards killed the US wagons in favor of SUVs… because the incentives shifted.
a shame…a German car which is no longer sold in Germany 👏🏻
Fyi it’s pronounced cayEnne like the pepper, not cayanne lol
hopefully not a lot of cyclists on that blind corner test track/road
Wow
Greta thurnberg won’t like this 😮
Her opinion’s expiry date has passed.
a real shame all the nut jobs who fly in private planes around the world wanna kill big gas motors!
Autistic child
Greta only loves herself.
She’s as significant as the nugget I flushed down the toilet this morning
12:23 rich upper class people problems LOL
I think the engineers are driving the Taycan, but nice try.
I clicked the Like button but when I hear you use Lord name, I unliked it. :(
Have to be totally honest - that made my skin crawl a bit too. Felt almost like the “c” word the way it came out so forcefully. Really glad to hear it bothered someone else - and I swear with the best of ‘em but not that one.
Exterior Design is getting worse.
But new interior is fine and better.
XM = poser. Cayenne GT = the real deal. However, if I had the money, I'd be an idiot if I bought a Cayenne GT instead of a 911 Turbo. SUVs are a performance comprise, so why would any one pay just as much or more than a sports car for one? It's like serving Sirloin instead of Filet Mignon and saying it's almost the same because the chef cut them and cooked them the same way. Whatever.
You lost me at no pan roof
Buy a regular one
Still I would prefer X5M competition almost half of price and better machine overall.
Not really
@@JRB41 I have tested many cayenne and I prefer x5 over cayenne.
@@eldismemushi As a owner of a 2011 BMW 328i xDrive Sports Wagon 6 speed manual and a 2021 Porsche 718 Boxster GTS I prefer the Cayenne, after test driving both. Physical controls, integrated screens, better driving dynamics, and way more customization. Looks are subjective
E-hybrid 740ps runs like a joke 😂
MMTV titles for the 20th EV merecedes dishwasher bluetooth thing with 9 middle names and 2 last ones: This is the best thing in history ever, no more need the ICE power.
MMTV title for another amazing physics defying Porsche : You get what you vote for.
I don't get some of these purists and how they'll give EVs a pass but may the universe FORBID SUVs evolve into just another shape of car.
What a beast. Unfortunately, another beautiful Porsche ruined by yellow calipers. They really need to let go of this as the default color for CC disks….too many clueless dentists not unticking the box.
You can option black ones.
Problem with this kind of car is there's a douche that wants to race you at each stoplight. Very tiring. Needs debadging
Pull a Spiderman on them.
How noisy can this car get!
Keep voting Greta … Europe
It’s very naive to think that lobbyist don’t influence the process. Thanks to truck loophole introduced with US CAFE standards wagons practically died out on this side of pond… and we get to talk about “sporty” overweight SUVs…
@@David_Journeysadly we don’t have Miata with 300hp
Atrocious blasphemy
It's not 2 seconds faster than the Cayenne S. 1.5 seconds to be exact. As we know, half a second is a big difference at these speeds. The Cayenne S is 4.4 0-60 with the sport chono package which is pretty damn fast for any SUV.
Muffler location is ugly😂
I like it. 🩵💙 It's cool. 😎
Needs beige interior, woodgrain and sunroof.👍