2024 Porsche Cayenne S: A V8 in the face of an EV world! (E3.2)
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2023
- MotoMan drives the E3.2 update of the @Porsche Cayenne, but a flavor that is a contrarian investor in today’s world: The 2024 Porsche Cayenne S. Now fitted with a 468 HP Twin Turbo 4.0 V8 that believe it or not, was engineered to comply with tightening emissions around the world however in the process, netted on road benefits that combine with other slight chassis control tweaks to improve the Cayenne, which already defied the realities of its size and weight.
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the younger me wants a 911 while father me loves this cayenne great video!! 2 thumbs up!!
Took delivery of a new Cayenne GTS in March, the V8 engine is stunning and sounds incredible. Have had Range Rover Vogues for years and have driven sports cars and this is a perfect mix of both, put it in Sports or Sports Plus and it drives like a 911(probably better on wet and bumpy UK roads) or leave it in normal and it is great for transporting dogs and kids. Yes it is expensive but it is apparent why as soon as you drive it hard, smile inducing acceleration, handling and of the course the sound of the V8!
This is why i can't help but love porsche. They backtracked on the whole screen thing and actually put hard buttons back in. They learn from their mistakes and have no ego (cough, ferrari, cough). That dedicated A/C compressor switch was brilliant. Great looking car too in that spec. All they need to do is cut some weight off that thing and put a PDK in and it would be the perfect SUV
Disagree on the PDK. It does not suit the Cayenne nor does it need it. Everyone moans about it. I own a 911 with a PDK and a Cayenne with the auto. When I drive Macans with the PDK….no thanks. PDK for the Panny and the Sports Cars. Not the Cayenne
...and yet despite years now of pushback and braun-shaver jokes, they continue to give the 992--and now this (in a worse location)--the dumb shifter-let. Confounds.
@@joetacchino4470 agreed, 8 auto on the cayenne is more than enough. that gearbox probably one of the quickest the segment
That proves the point that Porsche is lost: their only EV SUV product is a 2030 vaporware, that for it's proposed date, size and price, it will be better for them to sell an EVTOL. When one consider options like the Eletre, the Ocean, and the Polestar 4, this Cayenne is a true dinosaur.
That colour is absolutely incredible.
Porsche has the options game perfected. No wonder they’re one of the most profitable car companies in the world.
They make the best performance vehicles in the industry other than more costly exotics. Thats why people wait years for allocations of many models. I prefer to see their options as a way to customize a car to my needs. Base cars are pretty well equipped with just a few options such as upgraded wheels, metallic paint and audio.
I mean with the Price we pay for the rims, no wonder it's profitable
That’s not a lie. The good thing is that the stuff you really need (PACM, head up display etc) are relatively reasonably priced. For a Porsche that is.
By far the best review of this car.....excellent fact and history laced with solid opinion. Straight to the point. Good stuff mate!
I’m a Porsche guy… and I recognize many owners will just lease this Cayenne. But $152k?!? No way I would pay anywhere near that for a middle of the pack trim level. It’s just not special enough.
Bruh its like the previous GTS? V8 and 480hp…
@@Nyperia …but the badge says “S”. That starts to matter north of $150k.
Porsche has lost it with their pricing. About a decade ago a 911 turbo s was only about 180k. Now close to 280k. It’s ridiculous
@@TheZakk28 I optioned out a really nicely equipped S at under $130k. JUST under $130k. To me that’s a lot better.
I optioned out a ‘24 hybrid to match my ‘23 Hybrid and it was only $2k more….which is exactly what I would have paid if I had not gotten the Platinum Edition.
@@drepark2294 A decade ago, nasdaq was only 3500ish, and now it’s around 12,500.
"Reduce the weight by 500lbs and improve the driving dynamics"... They have that in the Macan GTS. It's incredible.
The Macan loaner I was provided recently felt much more nimble than our Cayenne but the two models are targeting different buyers. The Macan is more of a 2-plus-2 due to it's cramped rear seats. The Cayenne's rear seat area is limousine-like in comparison with much more leg and head room. It's rear seat backs recline and the entire rear seats can be moved fore and aft. There were also safety and convenience features that were available on the Cayenne when I bought it last summer that were not available on the Macan, e.g. wireless Android Auto, LED matrix headlights, InnoDrive.
Sensational video.
Some really impressive driving whilst talking in the canyon there
Thank you for this sir 🙏🏾 You're a man of your word. You have a sub from me 👍🏽
My pleasure!
@@MotoManTV Any chance that you deliver a 2024 E-hybrid video sir?
I recently picked up my new Porsche Cayenne GTS Coupe that I ordered in August 2022. It cost $261K NZ which included $5k clean car tax and $7.5k for full PPF. It is All Black apart from the red brake callipers. Inside is black as well. It now seems an absolute bargain. I went on to the new Configurator and specced the S up to what my car has and it came out at $273k NZ without the PPF, the radar detector, the clean car tax and the car insurance which all were included in my list price. To top it off, the S isn't a GTS and the lack of a gear shifter in the new S leaves me cold. It's a shame you can't put a photo on comments. Needless to say I'm so pleased to have my GTS in the pre facelift guise.
Excellent review as always. You've always been on the money about the recent tendency by many makers to place nearly all dash functions on touchscreens, especially the most frequently used ones, instead of buttons and switches, which are both easier and safer to operate. On the gold standard for 3-row SUVs, interesting that you state that the gold standard is the Merc GLS and nothing else! 16:22. I say interesting, because most of the tests I've seen go for the BMW X7 over the GLS. So, I wonder if different testers judge cars to different criteria.
We definitely do, but most folks that I chat with testing cars rate the GLS higher for a multitude of reasons.
Had two Porsche sport cars years ago. Their option policy made me defect to other brands and I would never go back. At this point, it is getting so ridiculous and there are way better options out there
What are some examples of these way better options?
Porsche, there is no substitute!
Actually, there are not. Porsche is the sweet spot in terms of performance, Luxury, and reliability. Just because you cannot afford one does not mean that your options are better.
Hello, thank you for the great review. which color is that?
I own a 2015 Porsche Cayman GTS that is highly optioned and absolutely love it. Lately I have been thinking of buying another Porsche like maybe a used GT3, a used Panamera, or Cayenne. I just can't pull the trigger because of the crazy just in price. Honestly I will probably just keep the Cayman. Nothing else compares when you figure the performance you get for the money you pay.
So, the GLS is the German three-row SUV reference point? Really? Maybe 10 years ago. It's been the X7 for several years.
great to see a proper content from you after soo long
Hi
Thanks of the Video
What is the name color the basic one in blue? Is it the Montego blue?
Thanks
Motoman! Still the best in the biz! 💯💪🏽
Covered in the #OptionsGame.
Looking forward to your review of the E Hybrid
The Cayenne Coupe is the most attractive SUV/CUV on the market in my opinion.
Simply the best. Nada mas!
Colour is excellent and fits to the car!
Hello Motoman! I am a big fan! Great review, as always! Please reply to this question, which other viewers may also find valuable. You state that the PERFORMANCE options transform this vehicle. When considering building / optioning a 2024 Cayenne S, how would you prioritize the "Performance" options beyond "Adaptive Air Suspension including PASM" @ $2,390, which is mandatory to enable the other perrformancce options? "Rear Axle Stearing" @ $1,280? PTV+ @ $1,500. "PDCC" @ $3,590? Would excluding one or more of them be a mistake? Including the Adaptive Air Suspension, the total cost of these four performance options is $8,760.
Good question: Everything you mentioned as well as four wheel steering is required to make the Cayenne stand out from a driving dynamics point of view.
My prediction: there will be no “Turbo” trim. We will get GTS, Hybrid S (what engine this will be is the biggest mystery), and Turbo S E Hybrid. No Turbo without the Hybrid.
I just built an S for $118. I need a bigger gas car. We went from 911 and Cayenne to 2 x Taycans and I need to give up one Taycan for a bigger gas car and want to stay loyal to Porsche. They are wonderful vehicles and nothing compares.
Good video, like how comprehensive you are in your reviews. That said, I'd love this Csyenne even at $150k+.
Great review, thanks. As a side note. Nice to have a presenter that is not dressed like a 10 year old for a change...lol Well done!
The Options Game REALLY brings all these cool, luxury performance vehicles into perspective. 😄
My pleasure.
Great to see you in a Porsche again. It’s been far too long! I really like the updates to the Cayenne, but I hate the lack of an upper trim piece on the main instrument cluster, it looks like it was forgotten and they actually designed it that way?! The price point is my other gripe, this is a vehicle that I’d have a hard time justifying the purchase price even if I had that kind of money to drop. This might be one of the rare cases where leasing makes more sense than buying. Never thought I’d say that. Don’t tell Dave Ramsey.😂
Absolutely going to rat you out to Mr Ramsey . . . :) And yes, has been far too long, but from what I understand, that may be changing over the next couple of months.
You shoud never get the Turbo. Unless you drag race more than once a month, who needs it? Get an S, you'll be happy.
Watch for the Rennsport cluster cowl at $175.
@@ak203I drag race to work in my Turbo every morning! What are you talking about 😂
Your reviews answer every question I have about a vehicle I'm considering for purchase. Thanks as always!
We want to see the Algarve blue metallic their new color too !
😮, gorgeous blue
that color is delicious...what color is that? so good
I love blue Porsches.
Funny, so do I!
Not a fan of the hoodless instrument cluster, and I loved the BIG analog tach and hate it's gone. Other than those missteps, I generally like the new looks inside and out.
@@videopyc In theory, with an automatic you as a human passenger don't need any tach because the car shift when it tells you it's going to.
what is the color of the car in the video? Is it algarve blue?
I couldn't tell the difference in power between this and the 2023 V6TT.
Great review as always! Can you imagine what the S would drive like if it was 500 lbs. lighter? Wow.
That’s an attractive vehicle in that color but if it was me I’d buy the SUV instead.
MotoMan, would you say the Cayenne or Macan is most important to Porsche overall?
From a numbers point of view, the Macan is close, but the Cayenne is the one that pays the bills.
So to summarize, it has all the capabilities of a a regular car on a road like that with none of the utility of an SUV and the inflated sticker of a Porsche...I want one!
What color is it? Thanks
New car prices are really getting out of control. 😵💫The price of this 2024 Cayenne S almost doubles the price of my 18 Macan GTS with most options.
For similar sized SUVs, I may pick X5 over Cayenne just because it's more budget friendly.🤣
The taillight improvement could make up buy a new one. I hated the 992.1. I once pulled up behind one and thought it was a Dodge. Also, the 992.1 looked like it had its teeth knocked out, in the front. This is much better.
What color is this blue?
Is this the algarve blue?
is this before tax or just the final price cause its so much more expensive in saudi
Good question! The pricing we use on this show is in US dollars as provided by the US manufacturer or importer. As such, sales tax (as high as 10%), luxury tax and/or road tax is not included in these figures.
possibly it is 434 hp for 2019 Cayenne S with 2.9. Not 443 hp?
One of my friends bought the very base Cayenne 5 or 6 years ago for the badge, only spent less than 70k. but heck, this 150k car still has chrome windows, looks stupidly funny expensive, I would take a X5M/X6M with less money without a doubt.
What color is that ?
The most attractive Cayenne I've ever seen.
The Taycan’s boomerang gauge screen is more attractive.
If it has 33 factory options, it should get its own episode.
Good point:)
Wow, my E3.1 Cayenne S came in at around $100k 4 yrs ago, and that was expensive. $152k for a Cayenne S?! No thanks! And I don't like how Porsche had gotten rid of the twist-motion ignition, replaces that with a button, that's not Porsche if you understood what I meant.
What color is this?
Idk what you keep going on about Porsche putting back in analog controls. They took out so many useful shortcut haptic buttons from the e3.1 cayenne, not to mention putting a giant hole in the center console where the gear lever ought to be - not a fan of the shaver on the dash. Compared to the taycan sure, but each model always has a distinct interior. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. (4 time cayenne owner here)
The sport utility "coupe." Less practicality. More money. Beautiful color combination at least. PT Barnum was correct...
The price ?? A trifle. For people who can buy it. It's a Porsche after all.
For me, a wet dream. But I will buy it too. One time . Maybe.
The only deal breaker on the new Cayenne for me is the fact that the interior is only available in all-black or in base-black. Many folks prefer light interior shades. Doing all-black or base-black is a cost cutting measure that many brands are employing.
Nice looking Audi SUV
Geez that price
It’s a nice looking car, but it sucks they don’t have the PDK on it. Also, compared to BMW X5M it’s much slower…almost by a full second. If you want a performance suv, then the bmw is the way to go.
If you want a real performance suv, buy the CayenneTurbo GT. ;)
If you want performace - dont buy a suv.
George, can't find anything that explains WHY the Cayenne is the only Porsche vehicle that still has a tiptronic vs. PDK. Do you know why??
Spoke to the engineer about it. Same as other generations: Torque and payload requirements.
@@MotoManTV I gotta believe a 992 turbo s has more torque. It’s got to be the towing/payload. Thanks for the prompt answer.
@@tedkramer1208 I was told it is better for towing.
I don't understand the "they've backtracked" statement on physical buttons? They've added ONE toggle switch to control the A/C on/off, and how often is that used?? You realize they've also *removed* one physical control (the volume wheel).
Believe it or not people like physical knobs and buttons lol
There is indeed a physical volume knob. It is the multifunction knob on the console. And they did make a change with it. Previous generation defaulted to the menu where now it defaults to volume. Small but VERY big change.
Warm a/c on, cold a/c off. Depends where you live I guess. In Boston that's off in the morning then on when I leave work.
what this the colour name?
What name is the colour of that car
I agree. The hoodless instrument cluster looks ridiculous. Gives the vehicle a cheap look.
I'm glad they got rid of the dummy key start to the left of the steering column.
That is something that should have died decades ago.
I would still take an X5 over the Cayenne.
152K! Jesus. I will buy a 2018 lightly used Ftype R and buy the base Cayenne with the V6 for the same price. With the remaining 6-10K I will put into options on the Cayenne and a tune with an upgraded pully on the Jag.
Can someone let me know what color it is? Thank you
Covered in the episode.
Montego Blue Metallic is the exterior color
Does this car has sport exhaust system?
Yes, covered in the #optionsgame.
Who wantsa Porsche that doesn't make noise? I have a Cayenne and a 911 and if God forbid they ever announce the end of ICEs Im going to buy a couple to keep till my demise.
very good suv.
Elephant in the room, the fakakta shifter!! (Even more than the 992 PDK if that was possible). George, unless I missed a mention (possible), there must have been a codicil in your first drive contract with Porsche "No mention of the (fakakta) shifter. Sign here, bitte und danke _______."
By the way, glare or no, couldn't agree with you more about the missing guage hood.
Good point . . . had a VERY tight timeline with this car so there were points I wanted to get to but just didn't have the time. The 'fakakta' shifter was one of them.
Yeezys. My Macan turbo cost 99k. My gt3 cost 165. But No way I would spend 150 on a cayenne.
Make an electric version of this and I will buy it until then model x plaid it is
Your wish is in the process of being granted!
VAG need to sort that 2 seconds of dead pedal moving off from rest on the 4.0
The button ignition sucks. Please change it back Porsche!
Better with the older V8 Hybrid! Faster!
Does this car have lane change assist, blind spot detection....no options only! Car over 90k base price should have these not force yo buy. Regulations should be in place to have them std features.
Why should that be regulated? If you don’t like it, just don’t buy it.
@@trevorphillips3922 not like dont buy if you dont like as if you build them. If i buy, i can afford to add those, if i buy with above 80k then it sucks paying to add those safety features. This is like blackmailing customers. U can understand what i am saying here.
The price is absolutely ridiculous. 170k tax in?? Sorry but there is no way I would pay that much for this regardless of budget.
Only thirty options..
$152K for a cayenne S …. my theory is that Porsche doesn’t want to sell too many of these V8 models, in order to meet emissions limits, but is offering this for enthusiasts.
The people of the past would be confused as their notions on SUV were of the agriculture variety. Modern day SUV/crossovers of today no longer share the outdated body-on-frame construction of truck-based SUV’s. Only sports cars and sedans would have the more lightweight and modern unibody design that improve handling. So the idea of Porsche SUV would’ve shocked people from the past as it is very spacious like a wagon with the height of an SUV. Crossovers are just wagons made sportier. Despite purist hating on the SUV/crossover trend, this body style is not a trend. It is here to stay. The wagon design of a crossover SUV is modernity and the way of the future.
Good description.
Pricing is too complicated. You do not know what feature you need unless you have lots of money and just select every damn feature.
For 130k+ I’d be running to the Audi dealer to order an RS6 avant. Or maybe a nicely soecced Range Rover. A cayenne is a nice SUV but the price is just beyond absurd for what it is
Can't argue with you on the Audi, but there is no way you are getting one at sticker short of having pictures of the owner of the dealer with small farm animals.
😂
$166K for a gorgeous blue one at my Audi dealer last week. I bought an A4 instead.
@@MotoManTV are they marking up Audi RS6 cars because of limited supply?
This is the Coupe. Not the SUV.
That missing hood over the instruments is so awful I can't imagine buying this. It would drive me nuts looking at that -- looks like a thief stole the hood and forgot the radio.
It’s not the gold standard. The BMW X5 M Competition is the standard, period. For 15K less, you get a German super SUV that is the second to third fastest SUV today, behind the Cayenne turbo GT for 200K plus. The M is more equipped, luxurious and of course more powerful than any Porsche SUV, except for the turbo GT.
Beautiful car with the new styling but the Macan GTS is still my fav. more nimble and better dimensions in my book. E cars are horrible, pushed by the fanatic tree suckers.
This is a 2023 GTS
I've tried to love non-911's, I've tried really hard. I owned a Taycan (couldn't wait to get rid of it), wife has a Panamera (boring), driven Macan and Cayenne loaners - but nothing can come close to the 911. OK maybe the 718. I'm OK with these VW boxes on wheels as long as it allows them to keep making 911's.
Maybe the base ones but I do not agree at all
@@kingdomfunding Different strokes... There's no Cayenne or Macan ever made that I would trade my 911 for.
@@MrSchn3ll Precisely, it's to keep the lights on at the company. One variant of the Cayenne that was quite special was the manual. I wish Porsche would bring that back, even if it was on just the base motor.
(my random personal opinion) But I think for the sake of maximum profit to be able to continue making the 911, porsche should minimize the amount of cayman/boxster models (there really only needs to be a 4 and an S, both small n/a F6s), drop the Panamera sedan, and cut it down to only a coupe and the wagon (also that should only have 4 (2.9T) and 4s (4.0T) trims) then maybe combine the macan and cayenne into one model? Something with the same amount or maybe even more interior space than the cayenne but retaining the macan's pdk. Then for EU emissions regulations reasons go all in for a SEPARATE EV lineup.
1st person to cross-shop a 911 and a cayenne💀😂
Porsche tax $40k. They are dreaming with that option selection
I’m leaving Mercedes because Porsche is going V8 again. I’m in 💯
The last good Cayennes 2019 made in Germany, now is made in Slovakia 🇸🇰 😅😂🤦♂️
Title didnt age well. EV craze has come and gone.
Crazy money with those options. Just like going to a casino and dropping off a sack of money and going back home. I think I’d take a decked out BMW X5 M or even the X5 M50/M60. Even the Audi RS Q8 would be a bit less expensive with more power. Or just go nuts and buy a lightning fast Tesla Model X Plaid and still have money for charging.
Tesla is crap
The plastic engine cover makes it look as exciting as a Lexus sedan, from Porsche??? Big miss in my opinion...
I do feel strongly that Porsche should take a page from Mazda and dress up the engine. Functionally, they didn't need to but they realized for a car like that, the buyer would perfer polished valve covers to plastic.
Prob 80% of the buyers look under the hood when they first get it and never again. Well maybe to add some washer fluid. Didn’t BMW have an external port for that?
It’s a egg without a future. I don’t own a Tesla but it’s pretty easy to see that these vehicles are dying
Really wish Porsche wasn't going the EV route.
EV will not last especially once the truth of how polluting they are for the environment comes out.
Ok
If you mean that the mining for the lithium does more environmental damage then the emissions from a well maintained V8 over its life time.... that truth is being ignored.
Are you accounting for the fact that EV’s will likely stay on the road 50-100% longer? I think you will see 250k mile EV as fairly common. Are also taking into account all the land pollution from runoff at gas stations and oil change places? Not to mention the wasted land use.
@@zoner__ Have you taken into account replacement batteries ever few years? Let's also not forget that most EV's will be charged with dirty electricity, generated from non renewable sources.
@@zoner__ , look it is highly polluting mining the minerals and heavy metals for the batteries , they are coming from 3rd world countries , children are being forced to work in mines barefoot and most miners children and adults are barefoot mining highly toxic minerals . Where with these minerals go when batteries are depleted , some say they will be recycled , however if we look to so called recycling programs in counties , states and cities those plastics etc. are just ending up in landfills .
Then there is the issue of where does the electricity come from to charge these batteries? It comes from oil , coal and nuclear . We already know how toxic solar panels are , where do they go ? Landfills , those toxins and heavy metals will end up in the water supply. California wants to force people to go EV by 2030 when they do not even produce enough power as it is with their rolling blackouts and brownouts , telling people not to charge their cars .
Then there is the real reason EV is being pushed , it is coming from the WEF , who’s main reason for getting governments to force EV is to limit peoples ability to travel , pushing the idea that man is causing climate change , which is a lie . We have .004 co2 in the atmosphere, at .002 plants and trees will die , the science is false, it is complete pseudoscience pushed by elites who want to force people to live in cities , owning nothing, eating bugs , and working for them for free , while they get to enjoy the rest of the planet and eat steak .