Tamiya Lunchbox NiMH vs Lipo Brushless and Brushed Speed Tests! You Will Be Amazed (maybe)!

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @AddamsPlayground
    @AddamsPlayground Год назад +8

    Very interesting results! I love the nimh packs for my Tamiya fleet. They are just reliable and worry free! The batteries now are so much better than the ones we had back in the day. I agree the lipos are best for the higher powered vehicles and the nimhs are just fine for regular run of the mill kits.

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +2

      Hiya Addam. Yeah I tend to use lipo for everything apart from the Tamiyas that have old non lipo esc's but this shows that there isn't that much difference if I use a big capacity NiMH. Many thanks indeed for watching 😁👍👍

  • @JoevsRc
    @JoevsRc Год назад +1

    Its always a fun day when playing with a lunchbox.

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Oh yes you can't have a bad day with a Tamiya Lunchbox! Many thanks indeed for watching 😁👍

  • @yodadarksideGreenHawksRC
    @yodadarksideGreenHawksRC Год назад +2

    Hey Pete!
    Any video that features Vanessas box (ooh er!) is always going to be entertaining.... but this one was particularly interesting to an rc nerd like myself! 😁
    Your findings pretty much reflected what I have experienced.... which is obviously different from what we were always led to believe in regards to the linear curve of discharge between NMH's and lipos.
    I now use a mixture of NMH's and 2s/3s lipos, dependent on which vehicle I am using....obviously there are pro's and cons to each style.
    People tend to forget that the modern good quality 5000MH NMH'S are a far cry from the 1200MH NICADS that we used to use back in the
    day, where a 5 minute run was all you got, even less if the battery had been fast charged,or you had a modified motor fitted!
    As you correctly stated, the run times/speed gains between a good NMH and a 2s lipo are marginal....especially when dealing with vintage /tamiyas!
    But things definitely start to separate more once you start upping the power......and things start to get really fun once you start adding a 3s!
    Great video fella,and great to see the lunches back out again!! 😁
    👍 👍 👍

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hi there. Yeah it was interesting to do this test and it's certainly different to what I thought. I think that NiMH battery I have is a good one and like I was saying it hasn't been used that much compared to the lipo. One other reason I got the NiMH is fine if I want to take an RC on holiday or whatever when I don't want to worry about the whole lipo thing. Oh yeah those old 1200mah packs and the 5 minute run time 😬 You could never go far from your full sized car because you'd need to get back and give it a fast charge from the charger attached to the cigarette lighter socket. Yes 3s and above certainly mean that you can run bigger cars at higher speeds. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback as ever. Best wishes mate 😁👍

    • @yodadarksideGreenHawksRC
      @yodadarksideGreenHawksRC Год назад

      @@PeteWylieRC
      Very true fella,but we were happy with that back then wasn't we?
      Those old fast/trickle chargers with the manual timer and the switch to select 6/7.2/8.4 or 9.6v NICADS that used to run off the family car!😁
      The fond memories are flooding back mate......
      My parents used to take us camping in the new forest in their metallic brown cortina estate,complete with poo brown interior!! 😁
      Unfortunately the cigarette lighter didn't work on what I used to refer to as the 'Dagenham log'!!
      Clear as day I can remember the ten year old me popping the bonnet and connecting the Crocodile clips directory to the battery in the Brockenhurst stream car park in order to get a few more runs out of my midnight pumpkin along the sandy,shingle river banks!!
      Seem to remember doing similar at Bucklers hard and Hengistbury head to!
      Happy days for sure!
      But,times move on.......never thought I would be using lipos regularly, hell,even Robs got one now! 😁
      Luckily,the New forest has remained pretty much the same though!
      All the best mate,keep pumping out the great content!
      👍 👍 👍

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      @@yodadarksideGreenHawksRC Oh yeah thinking about it our family car was too old to have a fancy lighter socket and it was indeed the clips on the battery under the bonnet. Seem to remember that the battery was toasty hot after. Oh happy days 🤣

  • @theoagrc
    @theoagrc Год назад +1

    Hey Pete, I am amazed how much time you got out of the NIMH pack! The brushless motor must really help with the run times. Shows why there is still a place for the simple tech in the world of LiPos. Great video pal 🙌🏻

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hiya Craig. Yeah the brushless motors are pretty efficient. I was stopping and starting a bit but you do get a fairly amazing run time even if you blast it continuously. A far cry from the 5 minute run times of my youth. Many thanks for watching and your great feedback mate 😁👍

  • @nomatesgates
    @nomatesgates 26 дней назад

    Really interesting to see the lipo longevity to drop so quick. I guess a repeat test with equal capacity and brand new batteries would be definitive

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  22 дня назад +1

      Hi there. Oh yes ideally I'd have had the same capacity batteries and also both brand new. Was interesting anyway to see that NiMH works well in these small RC's. I did another test with my Arrma trucks and really they do need lipo. Many thanks for watching 😁👍

  • @robbrennanrc
    @robbrennanrc Год назад +3

    Well I knew I was right to stick with NiMH (even though I do now have a 3s. But that's just so I can scare the acorns out of Shoebert😅😂) But honestly I can't believe they lasted 50 mins but hay it was 5000mAh. Great stuff Pete.

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Hiya Rob. Yeah like I was saying I think for the little Tamiyas the NiMH batteries are good. The lipos seem to last for more charges so long as you return them to storage charge after the run. You do get an awfully long run time with either of these. Many thanks indeed for checking out the video and your great feedback mate 😁👍

  • @MarkBryanRC
    @MarkBryanRC Год назад +1

    Hi Pete, well I didn't find this video interesting at all but i still gave you a thumbs up!!! 🤣🤣 Sorry mate, couldn't resist it! It was after reading Rob's comment about slating your video on WhatsApp! 😅 But seriously, it was interesting to see you prove the old theory wrong in that LiPo's don't drop off as much as NiMh's over time, in fact it's the opposite! You are a proper scientist after all mate! Great action shots of the Lunchie doing what Lunchies do best, having fun! Hope Mikael watches this! Great stuff and I hope you are enjoying a little refreshing tipple as I type this message. All the best mate! 😎👌👍

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hiya mate. Ha yeah it is a bit nerdy and dull 😂 Yes I was surprised how well the NiMH kept the speed up. I wonder if it would be the same with an old NiMH or newer lipo? I'm not going to test that theory though as I'm a bit fed up with battery tests now as I'm sure everyone else is 😂 Oh yes, always a refreshing beverage to watch RUclips. Cheers for watching and your great feedback mate. Best wishes 😁👍

    • @MarkBryanRC
      @MarkBryanRC Год назад

      @@PeteWylieRC Cheers mate. Yeah Mikael always said that you needed to speed test a car on a Nimh as soon as you insert the battery as they peak (at about 9v) when they come off the charger and tail off very quickly after the first few seconds of use. But on my TT02 speed test runs i found the best speeds were after the first 4 or 5 runs up and down. Now you've confirmed it! Best wishes to you too mate! 😎👍

  • @kiethpederson7558
    @kiethpederson7558 4 месяца назад

    Had a couple lunchboxes in a midnight pumpkin in my day and actually were my favorite RCC today

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  4 месяца назад

      @@kiethpederson7558 hi there. Yeah you can't go wrong with these. Loads of fun. Many thanks indeed for watching 😁👍👍

  • @RCsoandso
    @RCsoandso Год назад +1

    Being on Team NiMH I will see that as a victory!

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Yeah if you are running little Tamiyas which you are then NiMH seems just fine. Many thanks for watching 😁👍

  • @poorboysrc
    @poorboysrc Год назад

    Good stuff, Pete! Look at those lunchies go! 😆

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Hiya Fil. Yeah always a favourite of mine as the Lunchbox was the one that got me back into the hobby. Many thanks for watching 😁👍

  • @cw-01creations46
    @cw-01creations46 Год назад

    Nothing nerdy about battery comparisons if you prefer nihm packs over lipos. A Very well put together video for all nerds that enjoy playing with RC vehicles 👍
    Well done and thoroughly enjoyed 😂

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hello young Peter. Well it is a bit nerdy but luckily we are all into this stuff! I was surprised at how well the NiMH battery did but it wouldn't be like a 3s in your Granite. Cheers for watching and your great feedback mate. Best wishes to you 😁👍

    • @cw-01creations46
      @cw-01creations46 Год назад

      @@PeteWylieRC I have a Brand New battery for that puppy which will get tested out at work sometime this week 👍

  • @rc-dom-uk
    @rc-dom-uk Год назад

    runs fine mate 👍
    quite surprising results mate . thanks for the exhaustive test . i found it interesting .
    one thing i found with crawlers which i know you don’t care for is the nimh gives you a bit of warning when it’s about to go as u do get that speed drop as opppse to an almost dead stop . useful if you have a truck somewhere precarious like me 😂
    great stuff mate 👍

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hiya Dom. Yeah I did think that the NiMH would drop speed more quickly but I was proved wrong. Oh yes with NiMH you do get a period of the car running slowly right at the end so you can get it back to where you are. Many thanks for watching and your great feedback mate. Much appreciated 😁👍

  • @zoridor16
    @zoridor16 Год назад

    😮😮😮😮 amazing comparison wit brushed and brushless motor 😊😊
    Thanks🎉🎉🙏🙏

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Hi there. Yeah it was interesting to do the test and I was surprised that the NiMH lasted so long. Many thanks for your great feedback 😁👍

  • @DustyFingersRC
    @DustyFingersRC Год назад +1

    I don't have any conplaints using NiMH batteries tbh. Rhey always last long enough and stay fast enough for me and now we have some evidence 👍🏻

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Hiya Damian. Yeah I was surprised. I do need to run the test again after the NiMH has had 100 runs or so like the lipo. On second thoughts, I can't be arsed 🤣 Like I was saying the lipos are more essential in the bigger more powerful RC's. In these little ones the NiMH's work pretty well. Many thanks indeed for watching mate. Best wishes to you 😁👍

  • @3DMOFO2020
    @3DMOFO2020 Год назад +1

    Lipos FTW!!!👍👍😎😎👍👍 Awesome to see that your still having a ball with your channel's flag RC car Pete😁😁

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hi there. Yeah the test didn't quite go as expected but it was interesting to do. Oh yes the yellow Lunchbox is still going strong although it is a replacement for the one on the thumbnail which perished in the house fire in 2018. Many thanks as ever for your great support. Much appreciated 😁👍

  • @markconnor269
    @markconnor269 Год назад

    Very interesting mate 👍 great video 👏

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Many thanks indeed. Much appreciated 😁👍

  • @GoldenCroc
    @GoldenCroc 7 месяцев назад

    Yeah, if there ever was a RC car that dont need need the extra power and less weight Lipo can provide, its the lunchbox. The chassis is seriously struggling to use much power at all, hence no benefit of more being availible. So why not stick with what you like, I agree. The terrible handling (compared to a typical buggy, even of its era) all round is what makes the lunch box fun even with low power. Bouncing and doing wheelies everywhere with less than 100watts of max power. I ran a fully stock one with the original silver can, just on 3s lipo and it was more than fast enough for everything I wanted mine to do.

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah you don't need huge power in these but I do enjoy the 3500 brushless one more than the silver can brushed one. I only use 2s lipo in them. A friend of mine ran 3s lipo in a brushed lunchbox and it was similar to the brushless one on 2s. Good fun whatever you use though really. Many thanks indeed for watching and your great feedback. Best wishes to you 😁👍

  • @outbackrcaustralia4895
    @outbackrcaustralia4895 Год назад

    Great comparison video mate👍🦘🇦🇺

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Many thanks indeed. Much appreciated 😁👍👍

  • @captainxav3495
    @captainxav3495 8 месяцев назад

    Hello excellente vidéo et très explicite... pourrait on savoir quel type de moteur brushless vous avez mis pour faire les essais? merci.

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hi there. Yeah that has the Absima Thrust bl eco 3421kv combo in. Good reliable set. Many thanks indeed for your kind feedback 😁👍👍

  • @Modified325
    @Modified325 11 месяцев назад

    This is great! Have you got any details on your brushless setup please?

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hi there. It's the Absima Thrust 3421kv BL eco Combo. I've got it in a lot of my cars and it's reliable. Many thanks indeed for watching 😁👍

    • @Modified325
      @Modified325 11 месяцев назад

      brilliant - Thank you!
      @@PeteWylieRC

  • @Blastfromthepastrc1346
    @Blastfromthepastrc1346 Год назад

    Very interesting video and comparison 👍🙂

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Many thanks indeed for watching and your kind feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍

  • @merijn1975
    @merijn1975 Год назад

    That is interesting for sure. My problem with nimh is/was that I always had to reanimate them after some weeks of storage. Charge them, drive a little charge again and after few cycles they would be ok again. Is that still the case? That was the main reason for me to switch to Lipo. Just charge and they are ready but a little dangerous which I do not like a bit.

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Oh yes I'm not sure about the differences when they are left idle for a while. I always leave lipos at a storage voltage after use but I'm not sure what the best thing to do with NiMH is. I almost exclusively use lipo now but I've got a few cars with a non lipo ESC so I have a couple of NiMH too. Many thanks for your great feedback 👍👍

    • @merijn1975
      @merijn1975 Год назад

      @@PeteWylieRC Thanks for keeping us entertained Pete!

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      ​@@merijn1975 Thank you for watching and your kind comments 😁👍👍

  • @craigpimlott204
    @craigpimlott204 Год назад

    Nimh is ok in light stuff but on heavy scale rigs a 6800mah lasts about ten minutes in mine .a four year old 2s lasts about two hours on the same rig and the brand new nimh I tried lasted about ten minutes .but the nimh is great for powering the GT5 transmitter..

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hi there. Yeah I've come to the same conclusion that in the little Tamiyas the NiMH batteries work well but as you get into the bigger higher powered RC's you need to go for lipo. Just thought it would be interesting to test how they compared. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback 😁👍

    • @craigpimlott204
      @craigpimlott204 Год назад

      @@PeteWylieRC yep heavy scale trail rigs seem to draw a lot out of batteries I find 3s turned down on the transmitter to give 2s speed is the best .more volts move the weight easier and last a lot longer ..I’ve found a 3500 mah 3s lasts longer than a 6000 mah 2s as it’s got nearly twice the output ..👍👍

  • @RichardNutman
    @RichardNutman 8 месяцев назад

    Hiya, what was the brushless motor you used? Could do with a speed bump in my Lunchbox. Was the brushed the standard 540?

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  8 месяцев назад

      Hi there. It's the Absima Thrust bl eco 3421kv combo. Good set or you could look at the Razer ten Robitronic ones which are also great. Thanks for watching 😁👍👍

  • @TheOttomann64
    @TheOttomann64 Год назад

    Thx for sharing 👍

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Many thanks indeed for watching 😁👍

  • @Louisxs650
    @Louisxs650 8 месяцев назад

    It seems like the Yellow one is bigger? is it camera angle or they are different scale?
    Are the new 1/12th models on Amazon the same size as the original ? not sure if the original LunchBox was a 1/10th or 1/12th scale being a monster truck...

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hi there. They are both exactly the same so might be an optical illusion. They are also the same as the original Lunchbox and Tamiya didn't really change very much when they re-released it. Not sure about the Amazon ones. Many thanks for watching and your feedback 😁👍

    • @Louisxs650
      @Louisxs650 8 месяцев назад

      @@PeteWylieRCthank you for the reply. It clarifies what I've been wondering for a while. I wanted the same size as the original model. I thought Tamiya made them smaller but I suppose they didn't. Thank you and have a great day 😊

  • @pkf4124
    @pkf4124 3 месяца назад

    Well looks like all my old Tamiyas are getting a brushless update. No more 7 min runs for me.

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  3 месяца назад

      Oh yeah technology has moved on a bit since the 7 minute run days. I quite often finish the run without actually wearing the battery out these days. Many thanks indeed for watching 😁👍

  • @vektracaslermd743
    @vektracaslermd743 Год назад

    Blah blah blah, batteries schmatteries... LUNCH BOXES! Nice vid!

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Ha, yeah the Lunchboxes are obviously the most important thing! Many thanks indeed for your great feedback 😁👍

  • @hollyhillrc
    @hollyhillrc Год назад

    I don't know how do you get away with running your RC's on the fairways and in the bunkers when golfers are actually playing nearby! 😄😄

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      Hiya Derek. Thing is that Queens Park is a public path and there are dog walkers and people cycling on the fairways too so a little RC car is no bother. Just need to watch out for flying balls 🤣 Cheers for watching mate 👍👍

    • @JF-RC
      @JF-RC Год назад

      Hi Pete, oh I did enjoy that nerdy session and all those lovely figures and each running duration….hmmmm…yeah, I know, may need to get out more 😂😊😂 still very interesting that your 4000mAh LiPo is not too dissimilar to a newer high capacity NiMh pack. Perhaps it’s a good indicator that the LiPo is coming less efficient and perhaps might be best to take the LiPo to your local recycling centre for proper disposal and purchase a fresh LiPo, for safety reasons. Great test though and a blast to have 50minutes of Lunchie time 😂😊😂l I’ve got a Lunchbox that the wonderful Peter Smith gifted to me, I’ve been afraid to run it too much, because of the effort I put into the body, perhaps I’ll get a polycarbonate body for it and use that as my running body 🤔best wishes to you and the family 😊😊

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад +1

      @@JF-RC Hiya John. Sorry I missed your comment before as it is a reply to Derek's comment. Anyway yes, we all love a bit of nerdy RC data 🤣 I think that the lipo is still good but possibly not as good as when it was new. I only tend to recycle them when they don't charge at all or they go puffy. Yes the run times with a modern battery and motor are amazing compared to what we had to endure as teenagers. Oh yeah get a Kamtec lexan shell for your Lunchbox and give it a blast! I hate to think of RC's that are too nice to use. The hard body won't come to too much harm on grass although at the moment the ground is rather soggy so it would get muddy. Many thanks for watching mate. Best wishes to you and yours 😁👍👍

  • @RCBirds
    @RCBirds Год назад

    Know that cyclists issue very well😂. Great test Pete

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Hi there. Oh yeah it's another case of me videoing and driving and not really looking at where the car is going 🤣 Many thanks indeed for watching. Much appreciated 😁👍

  • @mikedisher30
    @mikedisher30 Месяц назад

    Hey question do have to upgrade ESC?

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Месяц назад +1

      You can use the ESC that comes with it if you are using a brushed motor but you need a brushless compatible ESC if you are using a brushless motor. Thanks for watching 😁👍

  • @Fortes_RC_Adv
    @Fortes_RC_Adv Год назад

    Good video😊
    Thanks for the info❤
    More 1Subscribed ✅️ 🆗️

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  Год назад

      Many thanks for your great feedback and the sub. Very much appreciated 😁👍

  • @proautojapan6152
    @proautojapan6152 9 месяцев назад

    How long did both batteries last on 1 charge ?

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  9 месяцев назад +1

      Both about 45-50 minutes depending on driving style 👍

    • @proautojapan6152
      @proautojapan6152 9 месяцев назад

      @@PeteWylieRC thats crazy time out of a nimh battery. I cant anymore then 15mins out of mine. What am i doing wrong ? I also have lipo shorties, 5-6k but only push them too about 20mins a time.
      Is it my charger or am i babingnmy batteries ? Cherrs

  • @memememe2674
    @memememe2674 9 месяцев назад

    Nimh might run longer but 25 percent of the extra run time will be really low power, no fun at all

    • @PeteWylieRC
      @PeteWylieRC  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah this particular one didn't really dip till it had been running for about 45 minutes so that's a decent amount of time I thought. Many thanks indeed for your feedback. Much appreciated :-)