The Tragic Fate of the Keller Family - Auburn, New York.
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STORY:
A young and happy family in the late 1800's meets with a sudden and terrible end.
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The Angel face you see is the Haserot, named “The Angel of Death Victorious". The stoic angel is seated on the marble gravestone of canning entrepreneur Francis Haserot and his family. Holding an extinguished torch upside-down, it represents a symbol of life extinguished. Wings are outstretched and the gaze is straight ahead.
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Most graves are unknown and lost to history.
Some are famous.
And some infamous....
....and some with tragic endings.
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As a funeral director I must say the layout of the father, mother and child were displayed beautifully
Not a easy task
You can tell the undertaker put their best work possible
I thought the same, they look like they laid down to sleep themselves, her hand looks so naturally placed.
I agree.
This was normal at that time,they had culture,today its gone.
Agreed.
Nice reply.
The inscription on their tombstone means " Rest here in peace, through the hand of the mother was decided her fate. Died on January 25th 1871. Hope this translation will help. Greets from Germany. Love your art of storytelling. ☺👍
Thank you 😢🙏❤️
Thank you so much for translating! It’s much appreciated!💕
So moving. Rest in peace you three.
Thank you for explaining it.
They died in 1894
It was nice to hear that the preacher did not blame her and understood it was a mental disease. We need more help and understanding for those who suffer mentally.
I suffered from postpartum depression after having my baby boy , its no joke . Thank God I've recovered . What a sad story .
Good for you. Did you also wanted to do what this woman did to his family? And why?
I can relate it is no laughing matter
@@moriahpalmas5264it happens randomly, no one really understands why there becomes a chemical imbalance. When it happens there is a likely chance to happen again with subsequent pregnancies but doesn't mean it will.
So glad to hear you got better❤ and congratulations on your family
@@zanecheryl8768
Sounds more like a demonic influence.
My mother had eleven children and never killed any of us.
This is such a sad story. The undertaker did a beautiful job. This mother must have been suffering so much to have done something so tragic. Back then there wasn’t really helpful treatment available for depression and mental illness. The towns people showed such loving compassion and Christian charity to the family. I wish we still had a little more of that left in the world today. I love your channel. I always thought I must be a little nutty because I have always loved walking around in old graveyards looking at the stones and seeing the different families there. I don’t feel so nutty anymore after watching your channel and seeing how many subscribers you have.
glad you joined us Patricia. don't feel nutty. the stigma with cemeteries from recent generations past has been recently changing rapidly.
cemeteries are not only a place for the dead, but also a place of solitude, sanctuary and history seeking for the living.
I agree about wanting more Christian clarity in the world. More kindness. I too have visited old cemeteries and look at the headstones. There is one in my Grandmothers town where the headstones are all very tall. They have little doors that open on them and there are pictures behind the doors and stories about their lives. Most interesting cemetery I’ve ever seen.
My heart breaks for her. The hopelessness she must’ve felt & the confusion about why she felt that way. She just had a beautiful baby & should be happy, but she wasn’t & she probably didn’t understand why
I’ve always liked cemeteries for the quiet that exists there. Also, I like to remember that each of the persons lying there was a very real person who had a life and a story of their own. I can’t help but wonder what their ‘story’ (life) was.
Now, at my age, I go through our town’s little cemetery and remember the times with all the people I knew from when I was just a small child and they were friends of my parents, or just people I knew from growing up, and still living, in the same small town. I’m 69 now. The memories I have. I guess I should write them down before it’s my turn to rest in that same cemetery. 😌
@@bethanywhite877Where is that cemetery? Sounds like one we'd like to visit if ever in the area. We like to visit cemeteries when we travel.
This man is a storyteller, plain and simple. You can tell he takes his time, and his paused, clear voice makes this a true documentary, of the first class. No fancy effects, no crowded technical team... Just one voice telling one story, and bringing us along for the ride...
I highly recommend the youtube channel. "They got away with murder" narrated and illustrated by Mark John Maguire. It covers historic murders including one in my neighbourhood at a stately home. Very like Ron, his style is intelligent and thorough with a good pace and delivery.
@@carol.luna.stella thanks Carol, will definitely check it out! Thanks much for the tip! :))
@@carol.luna.stella absolutely love that channel !
Beautiful video.i would love to travel with you stay safe!!
My grandparents, the Keller family, my grandfather, a gardener, my grandmother, a pianist, an educated woman of rare intelligence (that’s somewhat unusual in the 1950’s). The parallels are interesting.
People were saying that GOD PLANED that what a load of rubbish teaching. The baby did go to paradise on the spot, her husband defends if he was born again or not but most likely went to heaven she on the other hand is in big question if she went down or up.....
My hometown. Full of sad history including our own family. My father was murdered in 2011, he worked as a guard in the courthouse after he retired from the police in 2008
I'm sorry for your loss
Oh, this is very sad. I hope you and your family are healing from the trauma of losing him that way. 🙏
I’m so glad they put them all together, mental illness is an awful, heartbreaking thing to suffer from. Rest easy ❤
I practiced law at the time in Auburn. Such a loss. Your dad was a great guy to everyone.
I am so sorry for your loss. May God comfort you and your family in your grief.
Sounds like maybe Post Natal Depression or maybe Post Partum Psychosis: a psychotic break bought on by hormonal disturbance after giving birth.
I was thinking the same thing. Great analogy to the mystery of this tragedy.
I was thinking the exact same thing ..Such a sad story
Exactly what I was about to write.
I agree
Psychotic breakdown it seems. So sad!
I was going to post the same thing. Post Partum is genuinely a sad condition, even sadder back during the time period that this happened. No matter what happened that day, I pray that all three are at peace.
Bless all those who have faced sadness, mental issues, felt unloved and tormented by life. You are now in a beautiful place.
Heart breaking story. The community showed such kind compassion for the family.
I agree
The undertaker did a fantastic job on the deceased. May they all RIP.
Rosa parks was the lady on the bus😊
@@crm208??
@@crm208what bus?????
@@crm208 Wrong video.
My great-grandfather handled this funeral. The image came from a set of prints that passed down through our family, I still have one. The back side is covered in news articles from the time.
I went to Fort Hill many years ago and uncovered their grave, it was laying flat at the time and mostly buried. I just pulled the grass from around the edges to get a better look. Looks like they've kept up doing that in the years since.
My brother may have posted much the same here also, I'm not going to look through all the comments to find out. :)
Very interesting.
He left a comment 18mins before you did.
yes, your brother did post. very cool that this production found you both. NICE JOB ON CLEANING UP THE STONE. 👍👍👍
would like to purchase a stone (I will pay for it) for the other little one buried there (Verena Keller). Just need someone local to handle the coordination. If you know of anyone, my email is facesforgottentoday@gmail.com
@@FacesoftheForgotten I live nearby, another brother and some good friends are still in the funeral business in the area, I'll ask around.
@@FacesoftheForgotten Email inbound!
I it's heartening to hear of the compassion this woman was shown by her contemporaries.
You are such a respectful and considerate man when you share these stories. I wish there were more people like you in this world at this time. You are a good man. God bless you
I love that you left them a flower.
Your reading put us at the funeral service. Amazing how well you tell stories. Very gifted. Thanks again.
Very tradgic, so sad that this family died that way. Thanks Ron for filling us of this family.
Indeed.
Mr Ron you really bring people's stories alive and you have so much respect and a kind heart you can hear it in your voice so do look forward to your videos
I agree! I love his videos
I too agree. He has such a calming voice which paints a picture of those no longer with us. Mr. Ron brings them back to life almost, as if we knew them and that keeps their memory alive. Thank you Sir ❤️
@@theresap2660 Me 2 He's Amazing Storyteller
I'm a physical and emotional empath and an intuitive I can pick up his energy and yeah he's amazing
I appreciate Ron's clear speaking and the pace of his stories, they are easy to follow, the filming is first class. I also like to see the surrounding headstones "the neighbours" so to speak.
What a crying shame that most people these days would judge and condemn this poor lady without knowing any circumstances or facts at all. What a sad, sad world we live in now.
I went thru post-natal psychosis many years ago; it's not a thing to trifle with.
Yes but she did actually murder a child.....I feel for them not her.
Ron that was very touching and kind of you to leave a lovely rose on their grave.
It's vibrant yellow really stood out on an obviously dull, chilly day.
Another very well done story. You’re tenderness towards the family is much appreciated. Mental illness isn’t something easy to deal with it’s a shame people are so quick to condemn those who suffer with it.
I just love how kind they were ....mental illness is horrible!
You nailed it. The word I've been searching for to describe these videos is "tenderness." Ron's tenderness is what separates him from everyone else. What a wonderful way to be described and remembered...as someone who is tender.
Yes.. tenderness is the appropriate word. Thank you for bringing this histories back to life in such care... may they rest in peace, they find happiness together and to the mother no more pain.
Possibly post parting depression
I feel it was really respectful and understanding of the community to not blame Maria but to accept that she was mentally unwell, which was forward thinking of those times.
What a sad story regarding mental health, which back then was not really talked about. The poor little baby Anna had no idea what was happening. RIP to the Keller Family. Thank you Ron for this lovely tribute to the family.
Mental illness is an epidemic today.
I kno its sensitive but somehow i missed what happened to the baby? I jus wanna try to have empathy for her mental state.
@@maryrecoy1616 what I was wondering if your spouse killed your like that would you want to buried with her it’s kinda odd.
@@Cinemagoer_64 yeah i didnt catch if they gave a reason but they did say it hid the damage to wifes face
@@Cinemagoer_64 yes there is and alot of ppl go unchecked...this story is sad bc the father seemed to really care for his wife n family its sad she wasnt healthy mentally and im not sure how the baby died but how sad is youre disease if the child has to die too.
My aunt displayed some of those symptoms...she had a 11 month old son and her husband was a prison guard at work.She decoded during the night to walk a few blocks and jump in ice cold water.She didnt kill her son thankfully! Post Partum is real!
I grew up on Hamilton Ave, you showed my former home when you showed the view up the block. I never heard this sad tale before, thank you for sharing it with such care. I will visit their grave as soon as our latest snow melts and pay my respects. I have a group of old photographs from the family that built our house around the corner, I wonder if there are any from the neighborhood. I plan to fo through them. As far as I know, that family died off without heirs, and I may have their final relics. It feels important to try to save some of this history. Thanks again for this sad but significant tale of my neighborhood.
Seems they made quite an impact on their community in a short period of time. What a beautiful family, and kind, loving, and caring community. Tragic.
So sad. I wonder if there was a funeral for the first born who died shortly after birth and where that infant is buried. I imagine the mother was overwhelmed with grief from the death of her first child which only intensified her depression. Your reading of the story, along with the music played at the funeral, took me back to that time. The yellow rose on the tombstone was a lovely tribute to the family.
I think the death of her first child did cause her to unravel. I really like these unknown stories. Very sad story.
The first child Verina has a stone and she is not buried too far from them
Has anyone noticed how different people's feelings were back then? How they explained every detail of what happened but didn't negate her feelings towards her husband or child?
Nowadays, all of the positive things a person does, gets erased by one bad action and everyone demonizes the whole person. Our society has grown cold, humanity has been replaced by an almost robotic way of living where we judge others and acusse without any feelings.
We should learn a little from our ancestors so that we can all have a happier life. They even put the family together in one coffin. Can you imagine how people would react nowadays if that was done? People would flip! They would prefer she rots by herself, but not next to her victims.
Love is a virtue that shouldn't go away. I hope they rest in peace.
Thank you for such a great video and for taking the time of reading that article with such passion, you really got to me.
Cancel culture 😭
It all depends on what that bad action is. If you did great things your whole life then decide to murder your spouse and kid because you’re having a bad day…..you’ll get no sympathy from me.
Things was much quieter than
@@karendickey8001, it seems like you may need to revise your history book.
While you are at it, check the difference between "then" and "than" in your dictionary. 😉
@@penelopelopez8296 people suffer from mental illness and post partum depression, and back then it was common for women to be sent to insane asylums for “hysteria”, which could mean just about anything. This woman did not “have a bad day”. She most likely was mentally I’ll or suffered greatly from postpartum depression. Please don’t judge what you don’t understand. I’m not excusing her behavior, I am attempting to explain it.
Maria definitely suffered from Postpartum psychosis which is the severest form of mental illness in that category characterized by extreme confusion, loss of touch with reality, paranoia, delusions, disorganized thought process, and hallucinations. I did some research myself on this family and prior to her having Anna, Maria lost a baby a year before getting pregnant with Anna. The baby's name was Verina. She only lived for 12 days. Shortly after Anna was born, Maria started having bouts of paranoia she thought that someone was gonna kill her and her baby. Mainly her baby she was very worried and concerned about. One of Maria and Emil's friend stopped by the house one day and he said that Maria was banging the keys on her piano just banging on the keys (erratically) crying and then she snapped out of it like she never had an meltdown. She told him she " was fine" and smiled. People that don't understand mental illness. In them days things were very different and they didn't have the proper treatment that they have out here today for people that are suffering from mental illness. It's hard to understand something that you will never experience, and don't get why people do what they do. It's a very sad tragedy.
It's hard to put yourself in the shoes of someone with a mental illness. It's an illness of the mind, the mind is extremely complex and really hard to understand. So it's extremely difficult for someone to feel or understand what a mental patient is feeling. May the Keller Family continue to Rest In Peace
They're amazing looking houses, so well made, they were meticulous when making houses in the day...including stone bases.
There's too many shortcuts & sub quality materials used these days, houses really only stand the test of time, when made properly!
So sad a story, but alot was not known about post natal depression back then.🥺 I love how you told this family's story, giving it the justice it deserved.😊
That cemetery is magnificent!
They built a neighborhood of new houses behind my house and I know they will be falling apart faster than mine and mine is old ide say early part of 1900 ‘s . Siding done flew off quite a few homes with the last hurricane. money money money is all’s it’s about now a days
Dont move here
@@rachelkilmer5799 Huh???
@@natalieb7303 yes why
@@rachelkilmer5799 I have no idea why, you wrote....'don't move here'....I have no intention of leaving my own country to go there....it's very strange you made that statement.
I'm a new subscriber. I live in Texas. I absolutely love your channel! I particularly love the fly overs. I have always had a fascination with cemeteries. I feel exactly the way you do about them. I would love for you to do a story about the New London school explosion in Texas back on March 18, 1937 when a natural gas leak caused an explsion that killed more than 300 students and teachers. The children are buried in local cemeteries, the majority being buried in Pleasant Hill Cemetery near New London. I have been a member of Find a Grave for 20 years, 1 month, and 19 days. I visit and leave virtual flowers every day. I would love to visit all the cemeteries, but I can't and this gives me a way to visit. I even visit lots of foreign and Concentration Camp cemeteries this way.
Welcome to the gang, Carol! There’s a Live today at 3:00pm Central time. Hope to see you there!
I ❤ this channel!
welcome aboard Carol!
That would be a good story to cover Carol. My great grandparents William and Catherine Bryce died in a gas leak explosion in Greenock, Scotland, in the 1940s, neither had a sense of smell to detect it.
This picture literally broke my heart.
The parents and their baby are reunited in death.
They look so peaceful.
In a time when so many channels are falling back on AI narration, it's refreshing to have a story conveyed with genuine care by an actual human host. Good work!
thank you, your thoughts here are inspiring to me!
The editorial written about the funeral service was so detailed that it was easy to imagine what it was like to be there that solemn day. In addition, your excellent narration of their background information and what led up to this family's unfortunate end brings them back to life for a brief time as we picture them so vividly in our minds. The photograph of them in their casket is so hauntingly peaceful, yet tragic.
Thank you for all the hard work you put into bringing these stories to life, Ron. You're the best and the bots know it!!!
Agree with your comment.
Thank you, and inspiring note you wrote
@@FacesoftheForgotten Btw, I'm glad you didn't get badly hurt falling on those steps! They looked rather daunting as you approached them, mainly bc they don't have a hand rail and they're rather steep. Hey, it's great footage for a blooper video if you ever decide to put one together! 😉😄
This one moved me to tears. I'm glad they were treated with such love and sympathy. I wonder if any of it was brought about or made worse with postpartum depression or perhaps psychosis. I'm not a professional in mental health so I make no assumptions. My heart goes out to anyone feeling that broken. God bless.
Back then postpartum depression was probably unheard of. And with losing a baby before that, her husband working so many hours a day and moving across the ocean to another country so unlike her own, none of that could have helped her mental health. So, so, sad 😔
That's what I thought that the poor lady had suffered from post natal depression and grief for her other child and in her sad mind she wanted all of the family including herself to join the baby that she'd lost
I have another Theory. I do not believe in
Postpartum Depression at all; unless that child was 100% Undesired. I do feel that she was forced to Marry that man against her will. It was custom, in those years to Marry off the Daughters ASAP; to some guy with $$ if possible. Or they got Married or became Nuns!
Why would she play piano and cry at same time. The music reminded her of somebody else she truly loved.
No. Women knew about it. Women had multiple children back then. They understood the “baby blues” better than anyone. They just didn’t have a clinical name for it.
@@hurakan.7x7-canal88 How many children have you had? My great grandmother had 11 children. They called it the baby blues back then. You don’t believe in it? I doubt your opinion matters much tbh.
@@hurakan.7x7-canal88 Such ignorance, mind reading and magical thinking, all in one pointless waste of pixels.
This sounds like a case of Postpartum depression, some women get it so bad it become critical they get help immediately upon the birth of their child. I had 7 children, experienced Postpartum depression with my first child and my 4th child..I received help for both, never had depression since. R.I.P to the beautiful Keller family.
I had PPD after my daughter was born. I'm thankful that I was able to get the medical help Mrs. Keller couldn't get. PPD is scary to go through because you lose control of your mind at times. It feels like someone else is controlling you. My daughter is now 16 and I can still feel the pain from PPD. This is why I only have 1 kid. I refused to go through this again.
Me too and family to be there
Yes I only had it with my last child but it was horrible and scary .Now when my daughters or nieces have baby’s I let them know I’m here I can help if your struggling do not be ashamed to talk about it . It happens to lot women they need to know it’s ok to talk about it .
I had PPD in 1975, after the birth of my son. It was horrible, but I had family support and therapy. It lasted 6 months. I think it was brought on by complications of birth and a horrible experience in that particular hospital. When I had my second child five years later, I had no PPD.
I had it serverely after my second child. I frlt fat and ugly. And unneeded
I suffer from. mental illness. which runs in my family and lost family members from suicide. I don't have children yet with my husband but it makes it worse because cuz I want to b a mom so much make me feel even more broken or punished or less of a woman. feeling physical and mentally broken sucks.
Cool to see horse drawn ambulances. Did anyone see the dog silhouette in one clip? It was barking.
I did too
Soon as I read your comment, here is the dog silhouette. 🐶, this was well done..
That poor woman. She may have been suffering from Postpartum depression. I don't think they knew anything of this illness back then sadly. Feel sorry for the family. As someone with a few mental illnesses, I can really sympathize with that poor woman. Beautiful family. Great vid. Thank you for sharing this tragic story. ❤💔
It is a shame no one has pressure washed these stones. The detail would be amazing. It would be respectful to the deceased as well.
You better be carefull with pressure washing. It could damage gravestone easily!
Never pressure wash headstones!
Can use the product wet and forget. It's fantastic. It really works. Without stone damage.
It’s so unfortunate because even if she had gotten treatment, the treatment back then was so horrific, that she wouldn’t have been the same. She didn’t have a chance either way 😔
VERY true!
The funeral picture is so sad and beautiful at the same time.
Yes should would have had a chance...she let the devil trick her..why would you take your husband and child's life..that's the devil lies!!! Repent give your life to God..she is going to have to face him on judgement day...her husband and child is different story but her on judgement day God will say depart from me!!! There is no hope for her soul!! I go through depression myself but will not ever kill myself..it's not worth it not worth losing my soul over!!
So true! Crazy extreme electric shock and who knows what all else. I’m not sure if Lobotomies were started at this time yet. Such crazy medical measures not too far back in histories!
Ron is a master storyteller. Absolutely the best!
Ty!!!!!
Yes 100% i love the accent too.
Your videos are beyond mere documentaries. Top notch editing and audio. I love your story telling style. Most of all the respect you give to the people you bring back to life even for a moment.
Thank you so much.
I see many here posting comments about post partum depression and although that might have been the case, I will propose another possibility. I came to America from the Netherlands in 1962. Although world travel was beginning to be more common place at that time, my parents were not wealthy and resigned themselves to the probability that they would never see their siblings and parents again. My mom, who was extremely close to her mom and her siblings, went into a deep depression and suffered a nervous breakdown. The doctor treating her recommended that we either move back to Holland or to move to California or Florida where the weather wasn’t as severe. Eventually my mom did get better and my grandmother did come to visit us in California a few times.
Sad time for your mom but I’m glad it got better for her.
On hearing the narrator say they were from Switzerland, I figure homesickness played a part in this tragedy !
An ancestor of mine from Denmark who came to America had written how she would dream of how wonderful it would be if there was a large bird who could take her home. It couldn't have been easy leaving your home country, family, friends, familiar surroundings, culture and customs.
On the stone is written:"Durch die Hand der Mutter wurde ihr Los entschieden!"
"Through the hand of the mother their fate has been decided!"
Thank you so much for your translation
Gee..that's a condemnation of sorts.
They're dead because of mom.. yikes
@@latashaalston4350
You're welcome Latasha!
WOW. Heartbreaking
It just seems wrong to bury them together. The killer should have been in a different grave.
May have been post partum depression. Of course not known in those days. Very sad. Heart felt story telling Ron.
For sure post P. Has to be.
Postpartum depression doesn't make people "talk irrationally" or murder their children, etc. Postpartum psychosis does. Most women that have postpartum depression never have psychosis. The two both deserve and need help, but postpartum depression is very common; postpartum psychosis is not.
Women suffering from postpartum depression do not need the stigma of being thought "crazy" or "dangerous" that confusing them with someone that is having a psychotic episode brings.
@@ligeiaw1 your comment sounded like it needed ‘so la dee dah’ after it.
Postpartum Psychosis
What was sad yet beautiful about their deaths was that they knew she wasn’t okay and not her right self. They knew that she loved her family and instead of ostracizing her, they rallied after their deaths to show support even though it was too late.
This family, must have struggled during the mother’s depression. Post-Partum severe depression is a nightmare for many many women and therefore their families. I sincerely appreciate this sad occurrence.
This one is calming also. The patches of snow everywhere makes it special. The music is the best. A+
Brilliant choice of timeless music.
Mental Illness is sadly something that can affect anybody, from any background, at anytime in a persons life and even today it still carry's a lot of stigma, which is why I appreciate as always Ron's respectfulness and gentleness when it comes to telling stories like this and as some who has experienced things like real strong depression, believe when I say its not an exaggeration or someone being ridiculous- its not just feeling a little bit low and down, oh its much stronger and deeper, its about feeling that low and that utterly worthless, dark thoughts become very, very strong and over take you so much that you're not you anymore.
I am grateful that we live in a time now thats more aware and understanding of such things, it must of been so unbelievably hard in the past when people didnt even like admitting such things existed, never mind refusing to talk about them and I hope the world keeps on that path and finding more ways to understand and help people who suffer from genuine conditions and always- respects to you Ron- for reminding people of how they should be, if more people had your mindfulness, respectfulness and consideration for others as you do- that those things alone would start to make the world a better place, thank you.
Such a thoughtful and true comment. ❤️❤️❤️
I do have a serious mental illness too but I don't understand what it has to do with killing your own family? I think about suicide but that's about it. You can still tell what is good or bad even mentally ill.
@@coops1992 Theres different types of Mental Illnesses and they affect people in different ways...two people can have the same Illness but be affected differently by it.
Postpartum depression is not understood then
I wonder what Mrs. Keller's "treatment" was.......
I suspect she was severely in grief from the death of her 13 day old, and was suffering extreme post-partum depression.
As always, I love the music you choose.
Now that I am older,I really enjoy HISTORY!!!, You really are a great teller of the past,and history!!!
Thankyou from WA state!!
I love the older homes made in the 1800's. Such great design and beauty. Such a sad story of this mentality ill woman taking the lives of her family. Ron, I did like your ghost dog in the picture of the ambulance. I hope there souls are resting in peace.
It’s very sad. She just wasn’t in her right mind 😢
@@KimberlyLew Not at all.
Thanks, that was fun! I had a little artistic razzmatazz on this one.
Did I say “razzmatazz”? Oh my god my grandpa used to say that.
Ron, I’m sure there could be worse people to be like. They do say as we age that we morph into our parents…you just skipped a generation and went straight to Grandpa. 😂🤣
Mr Ron. I really enjoyed this video, my grandad who passed would always drive me past old homes on his beat where he grew up, we’d drive and our mutual love (his as a retired investigator for the military and me, a cold case nerd) would talk about old cases on his beat. This video reminded me of those days with my grandad before he lost his battle with cancer! Really enjoy this channel. Thank you!
A lovely Grandpa.
So sorry for you and your family's loss of your grandfather.
RIP
The poor husband and baby to know she killed them both so sad makes me crying iam crying now
They look quite beautiful in the casket, although it's extremely morbid. May they rest in peace. Thanks for covering this story!
One has to admit, the morticians did an excellent job, for the time in which they lived and worked.
How heartbreaking. They would call the mothers sadness today, “postpartum depression.” Of course, complicated by the infants death. Very sad, thanks for sharing.
This would not be postpartum depression but rather postpartum psychosis.
Mental health problems. How terrible. Thank you Ron for taking us on this walk today.
Can't understand how there is no proper fencing on these properties. Little wonder these tragedies occur when someone can walk straight into someone's property. Wouldn't happen down here. Greetings from Oz.
The article was very beautifully written. It had a very natural flow and was very respectful of the deceased. The details given then as to how things happened was very thorough and deliberate. Wish journalists would write like that today. Very interesting story. I like the straightforward way of your presentations. They are like mini documentaries. Glad I was recommended by obsolete oddity with a link he provided after watching one of his videos. Well done!!
cool, thanks. glad u found us. Love Oddie!
Another tragedy, more sorrow for mankind. Thank you for laying a flower on the Keller grave. RIP. Stay safe and well.
I really am left speechless by this one😦 An unbelievable job you do with these memories.
The music is perfect and the filming is first clasd.
It’s so kind of you and your wife to travel all over and share these stories.
That is a huge cemetery filled with so many stories of people's lives.
The sentiments of compassion shown by the community speaks a lot about the way they thought in those days. Maybe they were not so influenced by media and information overload. I feel compassion because my mother was schizophrenic. I understand the disease all too well. RIP to the my precious mother and to the Keller family.
My Mother was friends with a man who later murdered his 4 kids, wife , a visitor and a ranch hand. He then killed himself. Needless to say, she was incredibly shocked by this tragic news. This was so unlike him and he was very well liked/regarded in the community. This happened in the fifties in a tiny ranching community in Alberta. The crazy thing is, the town buried the family all together, including the father who killed them all. I don't think they would bury them all together nowadays but back in those days they seemed to have an understanding of what happened and that he was very ill at the time.
@PeggyPeggy….that’s true. They would never bury murder victims with their killer today. No way, they won’t even bury them in the same cemetery these days and I completely agree with that. The DeFeo family of Amityville, Long Island, who were all shot to death by the oldest son, Ron, back in 1974…..were all buried together and when Ron died in prison two years ago….he was disposed of and not to be buried with the family he murdered. I wouldn’t want my killer buried with me.
i hope you never leave you tube. i don't know HOW you find such interesting stories-far-flung beautiful cemeteries. your work is done so well, and with such an empathetic heart. too bad postpartum depression is STILL so common and so despairing may that little family rest in peace
Thanks Cindy that’s a very kind note.
This story was so well done. I felt that I was in a line with the community to view their bodies and pay my respects at the church and cemetery. It is a sad story but they were not forgotten. Thank you for such a wonderful job you do Ron.
I love how you take the time for background research. Fantastic job. Such a tragic,sad story
I'm subscribed to many RUclips channels (yours included) that visit cemeteries and tell stories of the people buried there, but you show something much more than any of the others.... That would be respect that you show to every single one!!!
Thank you, that means a lot …hearing that.
A haunting story told beautifully. A very sad case of murder/suicide, which happened most likely due to the effects of unknown and untreated severe postpartum depression.
Someone should clean that stone. So sad 👨👩👧👶
@@heatherbowlan1961 That's right! Women suffered from "hysteria" back then (a man most likely came up with that term).
Sounds like postpartum depression from the first birth, of which she obviously never got over. Left untreated, and perhaps, misdiagnosed... It obviously wasn't well known back then. Her prior confusing ramblings was probably a pretty good indicator that she was in trouble. Unfortunately, her cries of silent pain went unanswered because no one understood. So sad. Thanks, Ron. Another story well told.
Suicide because of PPD are still common today.
@@internetcensure5849 very true. And still often misdiagnosed.
@@Cat-no8ts Not well known? When women often had multiple children, one after another? They knew. They called it the baby blues.
Awww so sad and so Nice of you to lay a yellow Rose.
It is great to listen to you Thank you much for share it with us.
Stay safe out there.
Hugs from Marie Pettersson Sweden⚘🌿⚘🌿🙏❤
I'm reminded of an occasion when, trying to dispatch a wounded bunny at close range, my .410, loaded with black powder, started the dry grass on fire. I don't know if they used black powder in .22's of the time, it would seem the most likely reason the infant was on fire. A bit of research indicates that black powder was in fact used in .22 cartridges of the time. This would though, call into question, the thought that the bullet that entered the infant had first been through his mothers head.
Thank you for sharing this very sad story in such a respectful and reverent manner. What such a needless tragedy. The baby even in death was beautiful. May the Keller family rest in eternal peace🙏.
I never knew it was a murder/suicide. I always understood it to be a triple murder. Thank you for clearing that up.
Very sad and bittersweet end to a family. Mental illness is such a horrible thing and who knows what was going on in her mind to harm the two she loved most.
Part of this reminds me of some old friends. A couple years ago, they were in a tragic car accident while returning from a family outing. A driver crossed the highway and hit them head on. Both of my friends (husband and wife) and their infant daughter were killed. Their other 3 young children were horrifically injured, but miraculously survived and woke in the hospital later. While there are two plots side by side, the mom was buried holding her baby in her arms (which I'm very thankful for).
Jack the Ripper suffered from mental illness as well.
I am skeptical of the murder/suicide claims. They said the pistol was in her left hand but her wound was in her right temple, that is big inconsistency for a self inflicted gun shot wound. And I am surprised there is no other mention of it in anyone else’s comments
@@shannonspage9360 my thought's exactly, not to mention the husband being a freemason. Many rituals in the name of their god 'lucifer' were carried out and still are. Maybe he wanted to get out of the masons and this was the result.
Thank you from Scotland.Amen🙏
A heartbreaking tragedy, but so tastefully presented with sympathy and respect.
My husbands grandfather was a Keller from Switzerland. His family settled in Lancaster pa. I wonder if there’s a connection
I live in Auburn, NY, and I'm not familiar with this story. Thanks for sharing this!
Oh my gosh you gotta check out that cemetery --I’m sure you have!!!
@@FacesoftheForgotten I have, many times! Harriet Tubman is also buried in this cemetery, I hope you visited her grave as well.
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I live near Auburn, we have interesting cemeteries here. Millard Fillmore birth place. I haven't walked the one in Auburn ... Yet!!
Tears for this family.. The story so tragic. Much promise untapped. Hard to understand but glad for the community that stepped forward. Thank you for this story...🦋🌻
Postpartum Depression/Depression is a serious mental illness. I pray Our Very Merciful Blessed Father takes this under consideration comes Judgement day and forgives her for her sins so all three can spend eternity in the heavens together. This is one of the saddest stories and pictures I have ever heard of and scene and I thank you so much for covering it. May the Lord Bless You All and keep you safe! 🙏🙏🙏
There's more to the story. He was working all night long at a wealthy widow's house, keeping the fires burning in her green houses. True enough someone had to do that job, but his talent was high enough that this chore would have been below his status. It was typical 1800s where men could treat themselves and wives had to suck it up and have kids.
@@passiveaggressivenegotiato8087Ugh. I didn't know that or even think about that! 😢 Yes! He was probably cheating on her than and on top of that abusing her too.😭😭😭
Stop with all the imaginary friend crap
Thank goodness I was able to watch this live with the time difference I get confused. Such a sad story. Sweet little baby unable to defend herself it's heartbreaking 💔 😢. Thankyou for sharing this Ron. ❤ love to all from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤
You always do these stories with the utmost respect. The yellow rose was unexpected but a great tribute to mental illness and the inroads society has made since this tragedy.
Post partum is no joke.
Depression is messed up
This was obviously a well-loved family with such an in-depth article, surely a shock for the entire city. Love your channel.
This was beautifully done. The ghostly birds and then the dog in the old photos. What got me most was the funeral March, as you walked in cadence to it, up that hill- that was powerful. I could just picture the mourners procession. And the choir, brought a sense for me, of hope that the family has now found peace in eternal rest. You really brought us there with you, thank you Ron☘🌹
Thank you, that was my goal and intense and I’m glad you let me know that it was effective. I wanted to make it feel like you were back there at that time, imagining the sights and scenes inside the church and at the cemetery.
@@FacesoftheForgotten beautifully done, such a sad story.
Very respectful the way the Kellers True Story was told. May They All Rest in Peace
You spoke of this family with heartfelt kindness. It was a difficult subject, seeing the three so peaceful and loving. You honored their memory today. Peace.
It's 1am in Scotland, I stayed up to watch!
Way to go Carol!!! Thanks for staying up
Definitely Post natal depression, sometimes it sparks other mental health conditions at the same time. My friends Mother developed bipolar at the same time and was so bad she had Electric Shock Therapy. She has honestly never been the same since, but it's crazy that she was totally okay before she had her third baby. The photo of them in the coffin is both horrifying and beautiful at the same time.
I met a lady locally that had received a few electric shock treatments, she was appreciative of what she saw as "help". Quite honestly she presented as brain damaged. I'm not convinced it helped her in the long run.
I suffered from delusions after my first child. Same with the second but more severe. None with the 3rd. I’m here to tell you, if my good friend had not told me I had postpartum depression/Psychosis, I would have had to be locked up. It’s serious and new mothers need to be made aware that they may experience it. Thought I was bonkers.
Definitely? Gee, doc, thanks for the snap diagnosis, considering you have NO supporting information. ESPECIALLY since, according to a Mayo Clinic symposium on postpartum depression, she exhibited NONE of the symptoms typically associated with PPD, specifically depression.
@@carol.luna.stella yes I agree, I think it's a last resort and you are correct they're trying to kill parts of the brain causing the behaviour and it's brain damage.
@@maxsdad538 we are Women that have had it so we understand the symptoms whereas you are a man and cannot.
I've recently come across your channel and have watched several videos so far. I love what you do and for being so caring and respectful to these forgotten souls. I used to go to cemeteries decades ago, we used to like seeing the older headstones and try and imagine who they were. I can't anymore because of health but I can via your videos. Thank you.
You paint such a vivid picture, accompanied with the music-I’m immediately transported there. It’s very emotional
Your work is incredible! I'm just sitting here speechless whilst I digest thoroughly the story of The Keller Family. I wonder what sort of treatment a hospital offered in those days. It's interesting that their home is vacant. They were quite literally a beautiful couple with baby. Mrs. Keller was in a great deal of pain to have decided to end their lives.
Happy First Day Of Spring All!!!🌷😊
Thank you for all you do and for everyone else that helps. 🙏❤️🥰 also thank you for putting this on RUclips for I could listen and look at everything you shared. That is a really sad story, also a huge cemetery. Thank you again. Debbie from Michigan 🙏
This is so sad and beautiful the way the community embraced them
What a very sad story. It could have been post pardem depression that caused her to do that. In those days they knew nothing about that. It was a nice tribute to them and the music was beautiful.Excellent job Ron.😔👍❤❤
For sure post P. Has to be Linda. Agree. That’s what Kimberly was saying from the onset, and now I see in a lot of people so it Hass to be, nobody understood it back then
Yes for sure. She must have been suffering so bad, poor woman. Poor family, that psychologically back then was in it’s infancy; that no one could have comprehended. Ron you dealt with this so beautifully. xxx🌹
Your absolute best so far Ron job well done. Thank you for all you do. I have lost several close family members and friends over the past year and your awesome work helps take my mind off of missing them so much. The biggest loss was of my only brother who was 10 years older than me who passed less than a week after my birthday last year. He was the ultimate big brother who looked out and after me from day one and even though he moved away he would call me weekly if not more..I so miss hearing his voice..thanks again Ron your the best!!
Well told as usual.
Very tragic circumstances, may they be resting in peace.
Only you know how you feel.
I've had several suicides in my family and its always bewildered me. I think of the lives that they led and the experience of living and what they felt as they lived and endured.
God bless everyone! Take care of yourselves and those around you that you love. Cherish life and the opportunities that are bestowed upon our souls.
How lovely of you to leave that yellow rose(caring) for all of us. This story is so sad that it hurts. I had always wondered what the story behind that photo was, and I get the feeling-postpartum depression, of course no one knowing about it or how to treat it at that time. Thank you again for bringing us along. 😢