@rainbowdarkdragon73 it's effects don't work until it successfully resolves after activation just like a continuous spell or trap card, so since you chain mst in chain to the activation, the seal's effect can't protect it yet
I believe he is referring to Malefic Truth Dragon, Meklord Astro Mekanikle, The Creator God of Light, and Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare. Those four monsters are level 12.
Montage's attack can reach, at the very most, 10800 points. You can summon him with that much if you have 3 of the following in your hand: Meklord Astro Mekanikle, Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare, or The Creator God of Light, Horakhty. They are the only level 12 monsters that I know of that are drawn from the deck. The rest are Extra Deck only.
The seal destroys all special summoned monsters you have when its used, but after that you can special to your hearts content except from your extra deck which is off limits while its on the field.
I was assuming he'd said that Montage Dragon couldn't physically go higher, because most level 12's are in the Extra deck. I was simply pointing out the limitations to Montage Dragon's original power is 36 * 300.
Corrected because you are wrong, but right. The Seal destroys all of his special summons, when it is activated. Therefore, when he summoned a monster after the Seal's activation thus the effect doesn't work :)
You know, you could use Skill drain to Negate the eff of Malefic monsters so when there isn't a Field Spell on the field they aren't destroyed. Plus it allows your other monsters to attack and you can have more than 1 of them on the field.
How come he was able to attack with Montage Dragon when Malefic Cyber End Dragon's effect states that none of his other monsters can attack so long as it's on the field?
Yeah, that's why smashing ground trumps soul taker any day. My point is that you cannot have the same number or more field spell searchers than field spells themselves. In Azn's case, he should take out some searchers and replace them with more useful cards to prevent dead draws.
There are at least 6 Level 12 monsters that you can hold in your hand. If you use three to summon Montage Dragon, that is a total of 10,800 points without extra boosts. Personally, I prefer using three "Skull-Mark Ladybug" cards as a tribute to summon it because that means 3600 attack *AND* 3000 bonus life points.
I had a friend that ran a couple montages in his Yubel deck, dropped one at 10200atk using two terror incarnate and one ultimate nightmare. It was promptly magic cylendared
With the Seal you can't special summon from the EXTRA DECK, but special summoning from anywhere else is fine. That confused me for so long when Seal was first released. :P
If I'm not mistaken, the ONLY way to destroy the Seal is with another field spell, it's unaffected by other card effects, MST(well, MST could work due to spell speed rules, but do it fast), Heavy Storm or anything like it, won't do anything.
Actually, you can't even get rid of it with another field spell anymore. You can now have two field spells active at the same time - one for each player. Two MSTs in sequence (not in a chain) is the only way to pull this off now.
I tossed Montage in a ? deck before. Nearly every monster in the deck had ? ATK/DEF. It was pretty trolly because of cards like Trag, The Calculator, Montage Dragon, etc. The only one without ? stats was Catoblepas and the Witch of Fate. Such a funny deck.
Normally that would be true, however with oricalchos it can only played once per duel, which means the others are dead weight, even if orichalchos does somehow leaves the feild. Plus I've seen Azn enough times to know there have been times were a single 1000 points of damage could have changed the game.
I'm confused as to why his opponent didn't like overlay for Excalibur... Ya know. And azneyes could have killed utopia and gotten rid of maestroke's last attachment if he had summoned beast king before the battle phase.
seal only prevents the controller from special summoning monsters from the extra deck. so the opponent can xyz/synch/fuse as much as he wants, but azn can't. otherwise, seal would be way too broken...
Malefic Truth Dragon Meklord Astro Mekanikle The Creator God of Light- Horakhty Yubel- The Ultimate Nightmare These 4 are all level 12 and go into the main deck which you can send to the graveyard for a total of 10800 Attack
I think that Ezreal guy should have just crashed with his Excalibur to your Malefic Cyber End. Then cleared your beast king with his white dragon ninja, but yeah the misiplay with that utopia and maestroke :p
montage has a max withnot being powered up of 10800 with 3 12 star monters , i play it like exodia wiht an extream amount of draw power and montage aand thats it
Send me the deck lost for that. I want to see what it can do in my hands. Plus if I get montage over 9000 (which I've done.) then I'll record it and give it a post.
I was once running a fairy dragon deck had started with montage Sophia goddess of rebirthx2 and a few others I had drawn into another Sophia used heavy to clear back row and a black hole to clear monsters, got montage by loosing Sophia. montage had 9900 attack for an OTK. luckiest game I've ever played.
*Target Utopia for an attack if they don't have material* *Effect of Utopia to destroy itself* *Attack target is missing* *Turn player is allowed to redirect the attack*
As soon as he won I heard Shang Tsung in my head say, "Your soul is mine!"
@rainbowdarkdragon73 it's effects don't work until it successfully resolves after activation just like a continuous spell or trap card, so since you chain mst in chain to the activation, the seal's effect can't protect it yet
updated ruling states when Utopia is destroyed by its own effect, a replay occurs so you CAN attack again
NatsuDragn33I It's a Replay because Utopia destroys itself as the attack is happening, changing the number of monsters on the field.
Dude Azneyes you should do a updated version of this deck.
I believe he is referring to Malefic Truth Dragon, Meklord Astro Mekanikle, The Creator God of Light, and Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare. Those four monsters are level 12.
Montage's attack can reach, at the very most, 10800 points. You can summon him with that much if you have 3 of the following in your hand: Meklord Astro Mekanikle, Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare, or The Creator God of Light, Horakhty. They are the only level 12 monsters that I know of that are drawn from the deck. The rest are Extra Deck only.
Orichalcos used to be destroyed when your opponent plays a new field spell, but now there can be two field spells on the field.
Ever consider running Advance Draw? would've let you tribute off the Malefic for the Montage plays.
The seal destroys all special summoned monsters you have when its used, but after that you can special to your hearts content except from your extra deck which is off limits while its on the field.
i played dragon rulers with montage it was too good it made so many people rage quit
ITS OVER 9000
dbz
I was assuming he'd said that Montage Dragon couldn't physically go higher, because most level 12's are in the Extra deck. I was simply pointing out the limitations to Montage Dragon's original power is 36 * 300.
Corrected because you are wrong, but right.
The Seal destroys all of his special summons, when it is activated. Therefore, when he summoned a monster after the Seal's activation thus the effect doesn't work :)
You know, you could use Skill drain to Negate the eff of Malefic monsters so when there isn't a Field Spell on the field they aren't destroyed. Plus it allows your other monsters to attack and you can have more than 1 of them on the field.
It says u can't special summon while seal is up but u special summoned malefic stardust
The seal stops special summons from the extra deck,he can still do normal non extra deck special summons :3
You can't special summon from your Extra Deck...
That only holds true for your extra deck.
When utopia has no xyz materials he gets destroyed immediately because of his effect,why was he kept on the field??
How come he was able to attack with Montage Dragon when Malefic Cyber End Dragon's effect states that none of his other monsters can attack so long as it's on the field?
Yeah, that's why smashing ground trumps soul taker any day. My point is that you cannot have the same number or more field spell searchers than field spells themselves. In Azn's case, he should take out some searchers and replace them with more useful cards to prevent dead draws.
There are at least 6 Level 12 monsters that you can hold in your hand. If you use three to summon Montage Dragon, that is a total of 10,800 points without extra boosts. Personally, I prefer using three "Skull-Mark Ladybug" cards as a tribute to summon it because that means 3600 attack *AND* 3000 bonus life points.
I had a friend that ran a couple montages in his Yubel deck, dropped one at 10200atk using two terror incarnate and one ultimate nightmare. It was promptly magic cylendared
like i love how long it took im to realize he could montage dragon
Pretty sure excailibur has to detach both xyz material not just one.
Gru mhm sure does! just like Hanzo has to be normal summoned for his effect
Jason Mushung never mind had his effects backwards
Gru it does
That's what it says on the copy I got
Question. When you killed Utopia, you got to attack again. I know it kills itself, but is the timing right for allowing a second attack?
U can run malefic truth which is level 12 And discard them for montage can go up to 9600 without seal
The max attack Montage Dragon can have is... 10800.
This is if you send 3 Level 12 Monsters (like Egyptian Gods).
With the Seal you can't special summon from the EXTRA DECK, but special summoning from anywhere else is fine. That confused me for so long when Seal was first released. :P
you can special summon from your hand and whatnot. orichalcos just blocks you from summoning stuff straight from your extra deck
Montage Dragon's max attack is 10800, there are 4 monsters who are lvl 12 that can go into your deck 12+12+12=36x300=10800.
Wouldn't Skill Drain make Montage Dragons atk 0 permanently? Sounds kinda counter productive for the decks purpose.
Hey there, long time watcher, mind posting this deck list in a video?
I really love MDragon and malefics.
Is there a deck profile on this? If not, then please make one!
y ru both ur accounts banned from DN
The Seal of Orichalcos' effect protects the card from being destroyed by an effect only once per turn.
Have you ever tried a montage dragon yubel? I can send u a profile to test if you would like.
If I'm not mistaken, the ONLY way to destroy the Seal is with another field spell, it's unaffected by other card effects, MST(well, MST could work due to spell speed rules, but do it fast), Heavy Storm or anything like it, won't do anything.
2 mst would work
Actually, you can't even get rid of it with another field spell anymore. You can now have two field spells active at the same time - one for each player. Two MSTs in sequence (not in a chain) is the only way to pull this off now.
VestedUTuber Yep, I know of the new rule, lol, makes the Seal even tougher.
VestedUTuber OHHH a while back i had 2 field spells active in devpro,guss it was not a bug afterall
I tossed Montage in a ? deck before. Nearly every monster in the deck had ? ATK/DEF. It was pretty trolly because of cards like Trag, The Calculator, Montage Dragon, etc. The only one without ? stats was Catoblepas and the Witch of Fate. Such a funny deck.
Why didn't your Stardust gain 500 atk from Orichalcos?
It did...
drydud3 He probably didn't know that dueling network isn't automatic.
Joshua Roman
Yeah, I didn't
Jeremy Dreger The others get 500 attack too
Are you able to special summon mal. while seal is up? kinda contradictory
Triple Yubel ultimate nightmare for maximum power. Or gate guardian and Yubel terror incarnate for a little less than that etc. etc.
Normally that would be true, however with oricalchos it can only played once per duel, which means the others are dead weight, even if orichalchos does somehow leaves the feild. Plus I've seen Azn enough times to know there have been times were a single 1000 points of damage could have changed the game.
No the seal just destroys special summoned monsters when its activated
But you cant synchro summon
I'm confused as to why his opponent didn't like overlay for Excalibur... Ya know. And azneyes could have killed utopia and gotten rid of maestroke's last attachment if he had summoned beast king before the battle phase.
The seal of orical doesnt allow special summons right ?
So how does he summon another malefic ? Which requires a special doesn't it ?
The seal destroys any special summoned monsters the turn it is activated but you can still special summon exept from your extra deck
Montage can't attk so idk what the result of this duel would be because skill drain still doesn't allow maleficent to atk if there are multiple
I feel like your opponent could have gone for an Excalibur instead of Maestroke in order to take care of your Stardust
what does the camera in the top right hand corner do?
Wow imagine this deck vs chain material x fusion gate/3x neo galaxy eyes photon dragon..it would be the battle of the century..
I thought you can Special Summon monsters from your Extra Deck when the seal is in play?
I wish he went into Excalibur, but I feel he was fearing mirror force. So he did the smarter play.
Which anime have you been watching?
You could've sent beast king to the graveyard aswell to make Montage Dragon unless 3 monsters are the max to summon Montage Dragon..
i'm preatty sure that you can't have 2 malefics becasue even if the eff of the one of the field is negated,the eff of the one in the hand is not.
Montage Dragon? Eye of the tiger and the thrill of the fight!
with 3 gods and oricalcos montage would be at 11300
OVER 9000! There's no way that could be right !!!
its over 9000... every time he said it reminds me of Vegeta
How come you didn't Dark Bribe his Super Transformation?
If you run a malefic truth dragon you can get it over 9000 atk. Plus truth dragon is not a bad support card for any malefic deck
Orichalcos only prevents the user from special summoning from the extra deck, not from everything else.
No if you read the eff, it clearly states; "You cannot Special Summon monsters from your Extra Deck."
seal only prevents the controller from special summoning monsters from the extra deck. so the opponent can xyz/synch/fuse as much as he wants, but azn can't. otherwise, seal would be way too broken...
the seal of orichalcos doesn't allow you to special summon, so you couldn't summon stardust...
@6:10 you cannot overlay them like you said cuz you have seal of orichalcos
But he has more field spell searchers than field spells. You should always have more targets (field spells) than the number of searchers for them.
Great display of Montage Dragon.
well you could get over 9000 if you used above level 10s like yubel the ultimate nightmare or hyper psychic blaster/ assault mode
Can u ss monster when the deals spell is on the field?
do you have a deck list for this?
"I can overlay both of these and go for the sun dragon..."
What is a seal of orichalcos?
ever watched the shared deck duel between them? you can see there legs there and pink is definetly white lol :D
Malefic Truth Dragon
Meklord Astro Mekanikle
The Creator God of Light- Horakhty
Yubel- The Ultimate Nightmare
These 4 are all level 12 and go into the main deck which you can send to the graveyard for a total of 10800 Attack
I think that Ezreal guy should have just crashed with his Excalibur to your Malefic Cyber End. Then cleared your beast king with his white dragon ninja, but yeah the misiplay with that utopia and maestroke :p
montage has a max withnot being powered up of 10800 with 3 12 star monters , i play it like exodia wiht an extream amount of draw power and montage aand thats it
he is saying that azneyes ignored the effect of the seal that says he cant special summon
never say never azneyes
Send me the deck lost for that. I want to see what it can do in my hands. Plus if I get montage over 9000 (which I've done.) then I'll record it and give it a post.
what do you use to duel ?
Maybe he only has one copy of Excal in his extra, since he already used one before the beginning of the video
He realized that and took care of it at the beginning of azneyes's turn
Man this deck is BEAST i tried to copy as much cards as possible and its awesome!
even if we all do die on 2012 as long as i see reapers face i will die a happy man
you do realize that as long as malefic stardragon is on the field all other monsters cannot attack? so beast king couldn't attack^^
I was once running a fairy dragon deck had started with montage Sophia goddess of rebirthx2 and a few others I had drawn into another Sophia used heavy to clear back row and a black hole to clear monsters, got montage by loosing Sophia. montage had 9900 attack for an OTK. luckiest game I've ever played.
Orichalcos only stops the person who activates it from special summoning from extra deck.
when he first played orichalcos shouldnt utopia of been destroyed or do xyzs not count as a ss
if you give up 3 lvl 12star monster montage is at 10800atk
How was he xyz'ing this whole game with orichalcos on the field
is it just me or should there be a mermai light sworn deck
*Target Utopia for an attack if they don't have material*
*Effect of Utopia to destroy itself*
*Attack target is missing*
*Turn player is allowed to redirect the attack*
I thought you cant use your extra deck when seal is on the field
as far as your series for cards not used much montage is worthy candidate it speeds up chaos dragons and can lure a solumn card ;)
why did you let your opponent xyz if oricalcos forbids extra deck summon
No it applies to everyone, unless it specifies only the owner (like in the case in Orichalcos)
@PokemonHintsAndTips Did you see the whole video? He realized his mistake so he detached the other
max is 10800 because u can discard cards like horakhty,malefic truth dragon, meklord astro mekanikle, and yubel - the ultimate nightmare
Run Sphinxes and Yubels along with your current Montage Dragon setup, you'll get it faaaar past 9000
0:07 I think vegeta would disagree with you there
Thats why Oricalcos owned the Ninja player right?