Henry Cavil DID publicly say he was dissatisfied with the show and the writing. As a Witcher man, he said the show wasn't living up to what he wanted it to be, he felt they disrespected the books and games.
Even in the promotional interviews he would say something to the effect of "I'm just trying to find the book Geralt in the Netflix series Geralt wherever I could while staying faithful to both."
This time it doesn't seem like many people are attacking him. Most genuine fans seems to point their disappointment towards the show runners themselves
If Liam does get criticise I hope the actors and actresses help side with Liam. Give him comfort or something. Taking over after Henry is like such a big moment. So much expectations and just left him in the deep end without a clear goal. Knowing the directors and writers might f@ck him over with terrible writing
Didn't even watch Season 3. The second season was rough enough, and Cavill was the only thing that made it tolerable. After the recasting announcement I just lost interest completely.
Same here. Part of me wanted to see more of Henry as Geralt but honestly couldn’t touch the show after season 2. I really like the books so I didn’t really wanna watch them piss all over those anymore 🙃
Yup. I was willing to give S1 a pass since not every adaption is going to be 100% TRUE to the source no matter how hard you attempt to, and it was decent enough, but S2 was a travesty. I wish these Authors who sign away the rights for a show/movie would put in clauses about staying as close to the material as they can, and if they want to throw in show extras, consult them to try and make it actually fit in the damn world/universe/etc. without being out of place and weird. And another clause where if they do what they did in Witcher S2 they can revoke the rights lol.
When Liam Hemsworth looked at the camera and whispered "It's whitchen time" I stood up from my wheelchair and did a backflip while crying and pissing my pants.
@@paulmarandet4306that comes from 1 change to a single faction that wasn't a complete retcon because of the way it was handled. People with no knowledge of the source material are poisoning the well by overstating changes
They carefully tried to make him look like Henry Cavill, and not to discredit Liam Hemsworth but Henry's physique, physicality and voice made the Geralt live action into what it is. Liam is on the unfortunate position, having been the second choice when Henry was cast and now called back to fill in a hard and uncomfortable position. No matter how buffed he gets or gets his voice gutteral and gruffs like him, Henry's figure and voice has solidified the look. At least Liam is getting paid so he's not the unlucky person here. Ps. The writing. If you search how they said they'll try to condense the remaining books in two seasons of 8 episodes. We can all wait and see what will happen with that.
So they didn't try make him look like Geralt? Just like they did with Cavill... Replacing an actor in a series will allways be hard because they start out with the fans mostly against them. Problem with the series is at large the writers butchering it.
@@alexcrowley4557 Will never get all the stars to align between the books, games and the series. When we read books we all picture it quite individual how we see the world, characters and such. Majority of the times it doesn't transfer well to the tv screen. Like, even how good the LOTR movies was, they didn't meet my expectations from reading the books. The witcher series did a nosedive in that regard, but that is not the fault of the actors, they deal the cards they get given. The writers butchering the entire thing, now that is something you can blame.
It’s outright nonsensical considering that Ciri and Yennefer are really the 2 most important characters other than Geralt himself. Plus there’s Queen Meve and Queen Calanthe, not to mention the other swath of strong female characters.
@@williamedwards4151 That’s their rationale anyway. Just because Sapkowski didn’t trash men as weak and incompetent fools in the books that’s somehow… sexist.
What's funny to me is if they stuck true to the source material, but also threw in other side stories / show "exclusives" that FIT INTO THE WORLD, AND DID NOT SCREW WITH THE MAIN STORY IN NEARLY ANY WAY, most fans would actually accept the ideas if it expanded and added to the story. I know another show did this many years ago, forget which, but most fans were fine with it. Even those who didn't care for the added stuff didn't hate it.
The last bit of this video explains exactly why i don't like TLOU2 . If half the people who played your game hate it and the other half love it you did something wrong. Your job isn't to subvert my expectations and taint the legacy of what came before. Your job is to satisfying me and make me feel my money and time are well spent.
Way too generous. MOST people hated Part 2. The real gamers. Just a loud minority who loved it. Not to say there weren’t some people who genuinely liked it but I bet they ate rocks when they were kids 😂
@@starseed3203if it was a loud minority it would have been clearly visible and honestly people who have just played the first 2 hours of the game, their opinion just doesn't matter.
@@Daniel__Nobre True, but still it wasn't like the Witcher, where after season 2 I had no intention of going back to it, even though I love Henry Cavill in this role.
I can believe Cavill left for both reasons. He was going to return as Superman and was unsatisfied with the show. I'm sure both together made the decision easy for Cavill.
witcher isn't just referencing slavic but all kinds of european folklore, legends, monsters and so on. But I agree it needs more dark age eeriness and prejudice and stuff.
So true! It felt so fake and “plastic” looking when compared to the games. I mean, most Netflix productions look like that unfortunately (maybe except for The King?), but it’s specially bad with the Witcher show.
11:30 hit the nail on the head. Writers too often are writing pretentious stories for themselves, and don’t care about the audience they’re writing for.
well, in a way, it was the next Game of Thrones, just in the worst way possible. Showed immense promise at the onset, started wildly diverging from the books, tried desperately to be saved by its cast, ultimately tanked by its creators and writers.
This is part of the problem. Everyone is looking to make the next Game of Thrones. Showrunners and viewers alike need to stop doing this. The Witcher is not GoT. There’s already a next Game of Thrones…it’s called House of Dragons.
It's not even a train wreck in season 4. Looks more like the paramedics and firefighters removing the burnt corpse of the Witcher. While the train car is still red hot.
I'm two ways about Luke's statement of the job is appealing to the customer and giving them what they want. I 100% agree about that where the creator's job is to make a satisfying product which appels to the customers. Its easy to do that with an adaptation because the creators have a solid blueprint to do it. And if the creators didn't do it purposely then its on them the adaptation tanked. On the other hand its harder to satisfy the customer if it's an original creation because there is no sure way to know if your product will be appealing once its out and its an original creation so its the creator's vision. So one would hope that the creator cares about its own product to put the best into it because its not just about the customer you are appealing to but also showcase your own vision for the craft. And if that tanks its truely unfortunate and the ceeator shouldn't be blamed entirely for its failure because original creations are almost always experiments that no one outside the creative process will ever know about until its out. The difference between the witcher show and TLOU 2. Fans can not like any of them but one's failure is solely the fault of the creative team and the other is an unfortunate outcome resulting in controversy based on the customer's own take on how the product should be.
The showrunner and writers were so successful with their changes the Netflix literally canceled not only the show but all the spin offs that were in production. They could have made GoT but they preferred to make propaganda for a strictly Californian audience.
First red flag was the original creator of the books was never on the team to create this show. His books his legacy let him add and edit. No one else has any business touching it. Look what happens when you trying to bite the hand that feeds you.
I mean maybe. I'm not defending anything they've done with the witcher series. I prefer the books and stopped watching the show. But by all accounts the author is known as a huge asshole that's hard to work with.
Well, he wasn’t involved with the games as well. And they were so great that actually made more for the IP than the books themselves, outside of Poland.
@@Stickman0660 haha true. It was is right not to care when he sold the rights, but given he is mostly successful in what used to be a very niche literary area - fantasy - I would think he would be more open to checking what this “videogames” thing are and if they are indeed popular.
These writers didn't even understand Gerald's relationship with Roach and he wrote that powerful death scene in season 2 which enraged the writers who were to busy writing "stunning and brave characters " just shows the hubris of these hack writers.
Too bad. The yen and Ciri actresses did a good job.Cavill did a good job. The writers and directors didn't like the books and thought they could rewrite things and the fans did not accept it. Now Cavill is facing the similar situation with warhammer and adaptus custodes and I feel sorry for him being stabbed in the back again. When you have fans who understand and follow the material you have this sort of thing happen. Compare it to the fallout tv show. In that situation you have a bunch of casuals I believe who haven't played the games and lack identification with the games. So Todd Howard and the show writers can come in and retcon stuff and it doesn't hurt the show.
As Luke said, the Witcher could have been huge for Netflix and worth god knows how much money. But the showrunner and the writers blew it, and they didn't get fired for it. Instead they are rewarded with two more seasons. I've had jobs that pay 15 $/hour and I've been threatened with firing for the tiniest mistakes. These writers have cost Netflix untold millions and they get to keep their jobs? This is a clown world.
Really hate that so many shows are fumbling the ball like this…the part that really annoys me is that they usually have great casting thats gets wasted, show gets cancelled and in 10 years someone who can actually write will pick it up and do wonders with it, but without the actors we all imagined should play the characters
Once cavil left they shouldve cancelled it or better yet listen and obey and do everything cavil said to do . Ya know the one who actually read the books unlike the writer of the show . Goes to show these writers rooms are think tanks not creative teams
This is the equivalent of catching a pass in the End Zone, but then immediately turning around and firing the Quarterback who threw you the pass. In the middle of the game. On the spot. And then bringing in your bench-warmer, and dressing him up in the same jersey as the last Quarterback.
Yea I was under the impression that the Netflix series would be a telling of the books in the form of a long running show & once they went away from that I just stopped caring because I haven’t read the books & it would’ve been great to have experience the story of the books my the way of visual media. They really had a gold mine here but they mined with dynamite rather than tools.
The writing folks that's all that matters if the showrunner still hasn't set aside her hubris and has chose to digress again in this upcoming season instead of following the actual plot then it's pretty much dead on arrival for me
They bastardized the books, and original source material. "Writers", those people are not worthy to be running multi-million dollars shows and franchises, but hey, corruption goes along way. I do recommend anyone that didn`t like the cast choice or the story, simply do not watch it, and don`t attack Liam, he`s a dude that took a job, it`s not his fault that the showrunners are pissing all over the work of art that is The Witcher.
I understand making some updates to the source material, like you can beef up the roles of the women I bit if you want, but still follow the story from the books please. They’re very well written.
I remember seeing season 2 of the Witcher and recalling that at the end they were at the same spot as they started. Same with the latest season of the Boys. Things happened in screen, but by the end everything that happened put them right where they started in the season. It’s like writers these days don’t know how to move story’s forward. Ugh
He looks fine. Hope he doesn’t get a ton of hate for just taking a contract (no pun intended). I will say though, I feel like a lot of the criticisms of the show are misplaced/game minded. Don’t get me wrong, I do not like the show, but this repeated criticism of “Geralt being forced into a side character” isn’t really a good criticism. The books often go several chapters, like hours of reading, focusing on other characters and not Geralt. It always comes back to Geralt, but if we are going to criticize the show I’d rather it be an accurate critique of the atrocious writing and re-writing. I’m totally okay with plot lines that aren’t Geralt centric because the books do that, just don’t butcher them lol. Sadly they’ve done that.
The problem isn't Liam on the first place... Geralt can be anyone, but the producer team were the one who responsible for this whole problem. They are the one who should get replaced
I do feel bad for Liam too. Most of the actors do a good job with what they are given so its not on them. The fact that this show had the potential to be the next Game Of Thrones is crazy! It would have been so great for everyone involved but they screwed the pooch big time and made themselves out to be the biggest fools in the industry.
I blame the producers, director, and writers. You get people who are fans and who understand what's going on. They really didn't understand what they had. They got rid of the wrong people. You keep the people who understand the Witcher.
Liam looks like a really RE3ALLY good Geralt cosplay, hes just slightly too pretty, Henry has a certain ruggedness to him, slightly more weathered looking that fits, heck even Henry is a little too pretty, but I got used to it, I won't be watching this season, but Liam looks cool I can't deny it.
Everyone was hopeful during season 1, they were talking about a whole new set of shows set in the universe, Henry was super into the whole thing. Then they pulled a bait and switch. And Henry left because he didn't want to be a part of it. Henry liked being superman, but you can tell he loves the Witcher and loved being Geralt. Even after the writer said they wouldn't go and input their personal beliefs into the show. They ruined it. Glad Netflix is finally letting it die. Ruined something with so much potential.
The actress playing Yennefer acts well, but her character is the worst written, by screenwriters, character in the entire show. Also, the dialogues in Sapkowski's books were diamonds, the best part of the books. The series has the worst written dialogues I've ever seen. Terrible, yuck.
The issue isn't that the showrunners found the books to be sexist and try to make the show better. The problem is that they suck at their jobs and have done a crap show.
Very unfortunate - even the games aren't 100% like the books, so the Witcher fans were welcoming some changes. Even giving some side characters more focus and having main characters take a step into the background was still possible with this franchise and it's fans. But then they started literally doing anything else than respecting at least the most basic lore. For example Philippa, my favorite character of the franchise, who carries the story in the game for a hot moment (pun intended) and provides a pretty epic background story for the books with her past, they could've made so much with her in the series. And they planned to have Philippa carry part of the TV side of the franchise, from what i heard, with a spinoff series about the "mage wars" she played a big role in, but that didn't really materialize. And maybe that's the crux - the writers had a crazy, epic vision - but Cavil and the original source (books and games) kept running up against it. But just like you said - if they wanted to have an epic series about the mages in the Witcher universe, they should've just done that. Give The Witcher 2 solid seasons, first around the origins, second about the elves. And then the spinoff should've picked up with the King's Assassin and Mage Wars.
I’ve tried to start watching season 3 several times now, and each time, I can’t remember how season 2 ended. So I watch the last two episodes of season 2. And I get so depressed I stop watching. Still haven’t started season 3 after 3 attempts.
I think it's about time men reclaimed romance novels and tv soaps. Less drama and relationship fuckery, more bazookas, muscles, bare hand combat with wild dangerous animals, hot chicks in bikinis, fart jokes, and bicep curl high fives 💪🤘🤘
i dont have anything bad to say about liam but there is no way this ends well for him. this show is a joke and even if he did/does knock it out of the park it will be irrelevant because the writing is just so fucking terrible..
If they hated the source material so much, why didn't they just make their own show and story with a completely different name from The Witcher? They want to claim the praise of being original without actually doing the hard work of building an original story and characters from scratch.
Not a fan of Liam but I hold no hate towards him for taking a job. I hold Netflix accountable for not adapting the material in any form that the fans would like.
I used to be really sad about the Witcher series actively destroying its own success story. Season 1 introduced me to the Witcher world, and I've since read all the books and played all 3 games. I also became a big Henry Cavil fan. But I stopped watching after season 2, and now I don't even care what the showrunners do. I think like most Witcher fans, I just feel apathy towards the show now.
They had The PATHS laid out for them already. They just had to follow it. The book or the game. But no, they had to be “muh creativity” or “muh own story is better” BS. Plus Henry is a method actor, so he takes his character very seriously and studies his role (he literally became Geralt). He knew this series was going to be BS, so he left.
I've only seen the first season, it was decent - not spectacular but perfectly watchable. What happened in the next two seasons to make everyone turn on it?
13:40 Lmao the Fallout show respecting the established lore? What an awful example considering how the show retcons every faction established in both the Fallouts from Obsidian and the ones from Bethesda, and New Vegas and Fallout 1 as a whole. Watch Mauler's video dismantling everything about it. The people who say the Fallout show is good really don't know anything about Fallout lore.
What's pissing me off is that they will be butchering the Baptism of Fire book in this season! Which is one of my favorite parts of the saga!!!!! Urghh netflix...why did you screw up the witcher show so BAD!!!!!!!!?
WTF are they doing? Laurence Fishburne as Regis? I like the actor don't get me wrong, but Jesus they couldn't be further from the mark with the casting, not that I care at this point or plan on watching, but they really are just circling the drain.
I really hope Henry's Warhammer show is good. I have a lot of concerns with Amazon and GW and how much they're going to be involved in it. I really hope they gave him full autonomy and resources to make the best show possible. As for the sexist showrunners of the Witcher, I hope their act together, and if not, I hope they never get hired again. The disrespect they've shown to not only men, but the slavic culture as a whole, is just insane; It's crazy how normal it is today - that they can freely disrespect a culture and 50% of the worlds population without repercussion.
Henry Cavil DID publicly say he was dissatisfied with the show and the writing. As a Witcher man, he said the show wasn't living up to what he wanted it to be, he felt they disrespected the books and games.
Even in the promotional interviews he would say something to the effect of "I'm just trying to find the book Geralt in the Netflix series Geralt wherever I could while staying faithful to both."
And he wasn’t wrong
He looks good. I hope people don't attack Liam, he just took a job. They should criticize the writers and directors
I think most of the hate is directed towards the writer/showrunner. Yes of course some idiots will target him, this is the internet after all.
This time it doesn't seem like many people are attacking him. Most genuine fans seems to point their disappointment towards the show runners themselves
If Liam does get criticise I hope the actors and actresses help side with Liam. Give him comfort or something. Taking over after Henry is like such a big moment. So much expectations and just left him in the deep end without a clear goal. Knowing the directors and writers might f@ck him over with terrible writing
Maybe he shouldnt have taken the job that has such huge controversy around it. He's setting himself up to fail.
Dude took someone's hand me downs after 3 seasons & there's controversy surrounding the show. He should have known better
"Am I out of touch? Hmmm, no it's the kids that are wrong."
Didn't even watch Season 3. The second season was rough enough, and Cavill was the only thing that made it tolerable. After the recasting announcement I just lost interest completely.
Same
Same here. Part of me wanted to see more of Henry as Geralt but honestly couldn’t touch the show after season 2. I really like the books so I didn’t really wanna watch them piss all over those anymore 🙃
Exactly well said 👍 Im not voting for the worst book adaptation ever with my viewership.
Yup. I was willing to give S1 a pass since not every adaption is going to be 100% TRUE to the source no matter how hard you attempt to, and it was decent enough, but S2 was a travesty.
I wish these Authors who sign away the rights for a show/movie would put in clauses about staying as close to the material as they can, and if they want to throw in show extras, consult them to try and make it actually fit in the damn world/universe/etc. without being out of place and weird.
And another clause where if they do what they did in Witcher S2 they can revoke the rights lol.
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken I agree with you on how Authors should make more use of clauses to protect the integrity of their IP(s)
Luke unironically describing The Rings of Power series with his LotR analogy and he probably wasn’t aware of it 🤣
I was waiting for that to be his punchline.
@@dudeduderson4077 hahahaha same bro
When Liam Hemsworth looked at the camera and whispered "It's whitchen time" I stood up from my wheelchair and did a backflip while crying and pissing my pants.
What are you 8 years old?
8 year old child?
Witcher
Halo
Rings of power
3 shows that dont care about source material and all 3 pay the ultimate price
And soon you will probably be able to add Warhammer to the list seeing all the rumors about rewritting the lore :/
And for some reason Fallout is spared the same fate because it looks good and the armors look like the ones in game.
So sad.
@@Nico78Not
And the creators clearly love the project and went at great lengths to adapt it well
@@paulmarandet4306that comes from 1 change to a single faction that wasn't a complete retcon because of the way it was handled. People with no knowledge of the source material are poisoning the well by overstating changes
@@Nico78Notfallout was good and true to the games
This ship has crashed,sunk and burned a long time by now....
They carefully tried to make him look like Henry Cavill, and not to discredit Liam Hemsworth but Henry's physique, physicality and voice made the Geralt live action into what it is. Liam is on the unfortunate position, having been the second choice when Henry was cast and now called back to fill in a hard and uncomfortable position. No matter how buffed he gets or gets his voice gutteral and gruffs
like him, Henry's figure and voice has solidified the look. At least Liam is getting paid so he's not the unlucky person here.
Ps. The writing. If you search how they said they'll try to condense the remaining books in two seasons of 8 episodes. We can all wait and see what will happen with that.
So they didn't try make him look like Geralt? Just like they did with Cavill... Replacing an actor in a series will allways be hard because they start out with the fans mostly against them. Problem with the series is at large the writers butchering it.
As a big fan of games and the books, I like Liam's physique much more, Geralt was never buff like Henry.
@@alexcrowley4557 Will never get all the stars to align between the books, games and the series. When we read books we all picture it quite individual how we see the world, characters and such. Majority of the times it doesn't transfer well to the tv screen. Like, even how good the LOTR movies was, they didn't meet my expectations from reading the books. The witcher series did a nosedive in that regard, but that is not the fault of the actors, they deal the cards they get given. The writers butchering the entire thing, now that is something you can blame.
To Think that the witcher books are sexist is an insane take.
It’s outright nonsensical considering that Ciri and Yennefer are really the 2 most important characters other than Geralt himself. Plus there’s Queen Meve and Queen Calanthe, not to mention the other swath of strong female characters.
Ciri was pretty much driving the story in the books
It's even crazy when in its dsy it was pretty progressive
No, see. Geralt is a man.
And the protagonist. (Technically)
Therefore, it's sexist.
@@williamedwards4151 That’s their rationale anyway. Just because Sapkowski didn’t trash men as weak and incompetent fools in the books that’s somehow… sexist.
What's funny to me is if they stuck true to the source material, but also threw in other side stories / show "exclusives" that FIT INTO THE WORLD, AND DID NOT SCREW WITH THE MAIN STORY IN NEARLY ANY WAY, most fans would actually accept the ideas if it expanded and added to the story.
I know another show did this many years ago, forget which, but most fans were fine with it. Even those who didn't care for the added stuff didn't hate it.
But.. that takes actual work, creativity and having to study the source material, not just scan through it.
The last bit of this video explains exactly why i don't like TLOU2 . If half the people who played your game hate it and the other half love it you did something wrong. Your job isn't to subvert my expectations and taint the legacy of what came before. Your job is to satisfying me and make me feel my money and time are well spent.
Way too generous. MOST people hated Part 2. The real gamers. Just a loud minority who loved it. Not to say there weren’t some people who genuinely liked it but I bet they ate rocks when they were kids 😂
That's a very entitled take. They're the artists they can take their story in any direction ymthey please.
@@starseed3203 tell me what superpower do have that both of you know everyone's opinion
@@starseed3203if it was a loud minority it would have been clearly visible and honestly people who have just played the first 2 hours of the game, their opinion just doesn't matter.
In contrary the haters are still seething even after its launch it's a never ending circlejerk
I still can't believe that Lauren Hissrich was also responsible for Netflix Daredevil show, which I actually quite enjoyed...
Same here.. Although it’s a show that also dropped in quality gradually.
@@Daniel__Nobre True, but still it wasn't like the Witcher, where after season 2 I had no intention of going back to it, even though I love Henry Cavill in this role.
@@SBanas yeah, definitely better. And then the Punisher also gave it a boost for me to keep watching :)
@@Daniel__Nobre Daredevil was pretty consistently good apart from the second half of season 2. That was the only real dip.
I can believe Cavill left for both reasons. He was going to return as Superman and was unsatisfied with the show. I'm sure both together made the decision easy for Cavill.
It misses the Slavic feel of the books and the games. The games captured it well imo. Coming from a Slavic guy.
Are you Polish bro?
Exactly. The Slavic feel was gone.
@@AV-xm5ln Hey, I'm Croat. Love The Witcher games and Poland also!
witcher isn't just referencing slavic but all kinds of european folklore, legends, monsters and so on. But I agree it needs more dark age eeriness and prejudice and stuff.
So true! It felt so fake and “plastic” looking when compared to the games. I mean, most Netflix productions look like that unfortunately (maybe except for The King?), but it’s specially bad with the Witcher show.
The fact that they are changing the lead when the problem is everybody EXCEPT the lead is so ironic and hilarious to me.
11:30 hit the nail on the head. Writers too often are writing pretentious stories for themselves, and don’t care about the audience they’re writing for.
well, in a way, it was the next Game of Thrones, just in the worst way possible. Showed immense promise at the onset, started wildly diverging from the books, tried desperately to be saved by its cast, ultimately tanked by its creators and writers.
This is part of the problem. Everyone is looking to make the next Game of Thrones. Showrunners and viewers alike need to stop doing this.
The Witcher is not GoT. There’s already a next Game of Thrones…it’s called House of Dragons.
The dialogue between characters in the audiobook is so good it’s my favorite version of Geralt
It's not even a train wreck in season 4. Looks more like the paramedics and firefighters removing the burnt corpse of the Witcher. While the train car is still red hot.
funny you mention LOTR, because there is this show called Rings of Power, that does the same thing
The changing of triss pissed me off so much!!
I'm two ways about Luke's statement of the job is appealing to the customer and giving them what they want.
I 100% agree about that where the creator's job is to make a satisfying product which appels to the customers. Its easy to do that with an adaptation because the creators have a solid blueprint to do it. And if the creators didn't do it purposely then its on them the adaptation tanked.
On the other hand its harder to satisfy the customer if it's an original creation because there is no sure way to know if your product will be appealing once its out and its an original creation so its the creator's vision. So one would hope that the creator cares about its own product to put the best into it because its not just about the customer you are appealing to but also showcase your own vision for the craft. And if that tanks its truely unfortunate and the ceeator shouldn't be blamed entirely for its failure because original creations are almost always experiments that no one outside the creative process will ever know about until its out.
The difference between the witcher show and TLOU 2. Fans can not like any of them but one's failure is solely the fault of the creative team and the other is an unfortunate outcome resulting in controversy based on the customer's own take on how the product should be.
The showrunner and writers were so successful with their changes the Netflix literally canceled not only the show but all the spin offs that were in production. They could have made GoT but they preferred to make propaganda for a strictly Californian audience.
Cavill left so I will follow suit
First red flag was the original creator of the books was never on the team to create this show. His books his legacy let him add and edit. No one else has any business touching it. Look what happens when you trying to bite the hand that feeds you.
I mean maybe. I'm not defending anything they've done with the witcher series. I prefer the books and stopped watching the show. But by all accounts the author is known as a huge asshole that's hard to work with.
Well, he wasn’t involved with the games as well. And they were so great that actually made more for the IP than the books themselves, outside of Poland.
@@Daniel__Nobre and he wasn't thrilled about that lol
@@Stickman0660 haha true. It was is right not to care when he sold the rights, but given he is mostly successful in what used to be a very niche literary area - fantasy - I would think he would be more open to checking what this “videogames” thing are and if they are indeed popular.
I think that’s more like f a “dodged a bullet” moment honestly…sire he wrote a great saga but the writer himself is kind of petty jerk.
These writers didn't even understand Gerald's relationship with Roach and he wrote that powerful death scene in season 2 which enraged the writers who were to busy writing "stunning and brave characters " just shows the hubris of these hack writers.
Having see Liam Hemsworth in a fair amount of movies, I kinda feel like he's going to talk like himself
Too bad. The yen and Ciri actresses did a good job.Cavill did a good job. The writers and directors didn't like the books and thought they could rewrite things and the fans did not accept it. Now Cavill is facing the similar situation with warhammer and adaptus custodes and I feel sorry for him being stabbed in the back again.
When you have fans who understand and follow the material you have this sort of thing happen.
Compare it to the fallout tv show. In that situation you have a bunch of casuals I believe who haven't played the games and lack identification with the games. So Todd Howard and the show writers can come in and retcon stuff and it doesn't hurt the show.
Lol the not so subtle Rings of Power dig 😂
As Luke said, the Witcher could have been huge for Netflix and worth god knows how much money. But the showrunner and the writers blew it, and they didn't get fired for it. Instead they are rewarded with two more seasons.
I've had jobs that pay 15 $/hour and I've been threatened with firing for the tiniest mistakes. These writers have cost Netflix untold millions and they get to keep their jobs? This is a clown world.
Really hate that so many shows are fumbling the ball like this…the part that really annoys me is that they usually have great casting thats gets wasted, show gets cancelled and in 10 years someone who can actually write will pick it up and do wonders with it, but without the actors we all imagined should play the characters
The Switcher
Lol
Its sad for Liam. He doesnt deserve it the showrunner does. Hope the hate isnt too bad towards him.
The weird thing is that after this Netflix did a great job with the first season of One Piece (here hoping for s2)
Halo show has the exact same problem. showrunners that dont give a fuck about the source material
Strangest thing about the books is that they ARE about family, but the show somehow represents it in the wrong way.
Once cavil left they shouldve cancelled it or better yet listen and obey and do everything cavil said to do . Ya know the one who actually read the books unlike the writer of the show . Goes to show these writers rooms are think tanks not creative teams
This is the equivalent of catching a pass in the End Zone, but then immediately turning around and firing the Quarterback who threw you the pass.
In the middle of the game.
On the spot.
And then bringing in your bench-warmer, and dressing him up in the same jersey as the last Quarterback.
He said in multiple interviews he would stay with the show as long as It was loyal.
Yea I was under the impression that the Netflix series would be a telling of the books in the form of a long running show & once they went away from that I just stopped caring because I haven’t read the books & it would’ve been great to have experience the story of the books my the way of visual media. They really had a gold mine here but they mined with dynamite rather than tools.
I had my reservations even during the 1st season. Watched the first few eps of the 2nd and dropped it. They royally fuqed up.
Vesimir wanting to harvest Ciri's blood for the trial of the grasses is where they lost me
Liam kind of looks like Val Kilmer as Madmartigan from Willow (1988) in this short shot. Only Liam has white hair...
I feel like companies all have a competition with one another to see who can lose the most money
The writing folks that's all that matters if the showrunner still hasn't set aside her hubris and has chose to digress again in this upcoming season instead of following the actual plot then it's pretty much dead on arrival for me
They bastardized the books, and original source material.
"Writers", those people are not worthy to be running multi-million dollars shows and franchises, but hey, corruption goes along way.
I do recommend anyone that didn`t like the cast choice or the story, simply do not watch it, and don`t attack Liam, he`s a dude that took a job, it`s not his fault that the showrunners are pissing all over the work of art that is The Witcher.
I understand making some updates to the source material, like you can beef up the roles of the women I bit if you want, but still follow the story from the books please. They’re very well written.
I remember seeing season 2 of the Witcher and recalling that at the end they were at the same spot as they started. Same with the latest season of the Boys. Things happened in screen, but by the end everything that happened put them right where they started in the season. It’s like writers these days don’t know how to move story’s forward. Ugh
He looks fine. Hope he doesn’t get a ton of hate for just taking a contract (no pun intended).
I will say though, I feel like a lot of the criticisms of the show are misplaced/game minded. Don’t get me wrong, I do not like the show, but this repeated criticism of “Geralt being forced into a side character” isn’t really a good criticism. The books often go several chapters, like hours of reading, focusing on other characters and not Geralt. It always comes back to Geralt, but if we are going to criticize the show I’d rather it be an accurate critique of the atrocious writing and re-writing. I’m totally okay with plot lines that aren’t Geralt centric because the books do that, just don’t butcher them lol. Sadly they’ve done that.
The problem isn't Liam on the first place...
Geralt can be anyone, but the producer team were the one who responsible for this whole problem.
They are the one who should get replaced
They should've done what Fallout did. Instead of badly adapting the books, they should've used new characters in a Witcher setting
Good for Liam honestly, he looks good as Geralt. Just sucks who's running the show
watched 2 episodes of season 3 and tapped out. good luck netflix.
Henry didn't want Roach to die, but they forced him to do it
I do feel bad for Liam too. Most of the actors do a good job with what they are given so its not on them.
The fact that this show had the potential to be the next Game Of Thrones is crazy! It would have been so great for everyone involved but they screwed the pooch big time and made themselves out to be the biggest fools in the industry.
I blame the producers, director, and writers. You get people who are fans and who understand what's going on. They really didn't understand what they had. They got rid of the wrong people. You keep the people who understand the Witcher.
13:31 they already tried that with Blood Origin lol
Liam looks like a really RE3ALLY good Geralt cosplay, hes just slightly too pretty, Henry has a certain ruggedness to him, slightly more weathered looking that fits, heck even Henry is a little too pretty, but I got used to it, I won't be watching this season, but Liam looks cool I can't deny it.
they should have made the witcher starring lamber the brick.
he and geralt are hilarious together
Don’t hate the player, hate the writers (obviously don’t harass them)
Everyone was hopeful during season 1, they were talking about a whole new set of shows set in the universe, Henry was super into the whole thing. Then they pulled a bait and switch. And Henry left because he didn't want to be a part of it. Henry liked being superman, but you can tell he loves the Witcher and loved being Geralt. Even after the writer said they wouldn't go and input their personal beliefs into the show. They ruined it. Glad Netflix is finally letting it die. Ruined something with so much potential.
The actress playing Yennefer acts well, but her character is the worst written, by screenwriters, character in the entire show. Also, the dialogues in Sapkowski's books were diamonds, the best part of the books. The series has the worst written dialogues I've ever seen. Terrible, yuck.
Jennifer Lawrence played Liam Hemsworth in Hunger Games
He’s been given an impossible task so I will respect him more by the end of all this.
The issue isn't that the showrunners found the books to be sexist and try to make the show better. The problem is that they suck at their jobs and have done a crap show.
Very unfortunate - even the games aren't 100% like the books, so the Witcher fans were welcoming some changes. Even giving some side characters more focus and having main characters take a step into the background was still possible with this franchise and it's fans. But then they started literally doing anything else than respecting at least the most basic lore. For example Philippa, my favorite character of the franchise, who carries the story in the game for a hot moment (pun intended) and provides a pretty epic background story for the books with her past, they could've made so much with her in the series. And they planned to have Philippa carry part of the TV side of the franchise, from what i heard, with a spinoff series about the "mage wars" she played a big role in, but that didn't really materialize.
And maybe that's the crux - the writers had a crazy, epic vision - but Cavil and the original source (books and games) kept running up against it. But just like you said - if they wanted to have an epic series about the mages in the Witcher universe, they should've just done that. Give The Witcher 2 solid seasons, first around the origins, second about the elves. And then the spinoff should've picked up with the King's Assassin and Mage Wars.
I’ve tried to start watching season 3 several times now, and each time, I can’t remember how season 2 ended. So I watch the last two episodes of season 2. And I get so depressed I stop watching. Still haven’t started season 3 after 3 attempts.
It’s so satisfying watching these greedy companies destroy themselves and blame the consumers for their greed. You get what you deserve.
Poor Liam…getting called in to pick up the pieces after Netflix murdered the show. F the writers and F Netflix.
I think it's about time men reclaimed romance novels and tv soaps. Less drama and relationship fuckery, more bazookas, muscles, bare hand combat with wild dangerous animals, hot chicks in bikinis, fart jokes, and bicep curl high fives 💪🤘🤘
i dont have anything bad to say about liam but there is no way this ends well for him.
this show is a joke and even if he did/does knock it out of the park it will be irrelevant because the writing is just so fucking terrible..
just started this show and so far i think only henry cavil did his homework on his character what the hell is going on
He looks pretty good.
Let's be honest it looks legit..I have hope it can get better
Laurence Fisburne as Regis lmaooo...sure, can't have the most English and white character remain that way
If they hated the source material so much, why didn't they just make their own show and story with a completely different name from The Witcher? They want to claim the praise of being original without actually doing the hard work of building an original story and characters from scratch.
Tbh, Liam is what I pictured Geralt would look like. But then we saw Henry Cavil and Shoobuddy. Quintessential Witcher.
Must be tough being the less successful brother taking a role that’s basically cursed. Good luck to him
Henry Cavill was the only worthwhile part of The Witcher. Dandelion was pretty good too I suppose. I didn't even make it through most of season 2.
'The Witcher' is what you get when the writers think they're more important than the show.
Who is he 😂😂😂 no one even remembers this guy no wonder they gave him the job they probably had to pay him way less
The writers thought they were better than the author.
They we're not.
01:02 Discount Madmartigan
Not a fan of Liam but I hold no hate towards him for taking a job. I hold Netflix accountable for not adapting the material in any form that the fans would like.
I used to be really sad about the Witcher series actively destroying its own success story. Season 1 introduced me to the Witcher world, and I've since read all the books and played all 3 games. I also became a big Henry Cavil fan. But I stopped watching after season 2, and now I don't even care what the showrunners do. I think like most Witcher fans, I just feel apathy towards the show now.
lets not be Naive now Luke. The showrunners knew exactly what they were doing, they don't care they have an agenda to push.
They had The PATHS laid out for them already. They just had to follow it. The book or the game. But no, they had to be “muh creativity” or “muh own story is better” BS. Plus Henry is a method actor, so he takes his character very seriously and studies his role (he literally became Geralt). He knew this series was going to be BS, so he left.
I just feel bad for Kim Bodnia. Guy got a great role and now the show got ruined. Kim really deserves more screen time all over.
I thought this show was already canceled 😮
I've only seen the first season, it was decent - not spectacular but perfectly watchable.
What happened in the next two seasons to make everyone turn on it?
Liam would be a better fit for Mad Max, I think.
13:40 Lmao the Fallout show respecting the established lore? What an awful example considering how the show retcons every faction established in both the Fallouts from Obsidian and the ones from Bethesda, and New Vegas and Fallout 1 as a whole. Watch Mauler's video dismantling everything about it.
The people who say the Fallout show is good really don't know anything about Fallout lore.
What's pissing me off is that they will be butchering the Baptism of Fire book in this season! Which is one of my favorite parts of the saga!!!!! Urghh netflix...why did you screw up the witcher show so BAD!!!!!!!!?
Won't be watching it but Sharlto Copley in the new season as Leo Bonhart definitely would be awesome to see. Shame.
They should've just pulled the plug. Its not the same without Henry
WTF are they doing? Laurence Fishburne as Regis? I like the actor don't get me wrong, but Jesus they couldn't be further from the mark with the casting, not that I care at this point or plan on watching, but they really are just circling the drain.
I really hope Henry's Warhammer show is good. I have a lot of concerns with Amazon and GW and how much they're going to be involved in it. I really hope they gave him full autonomy and resources to make the best show possible.
As for the sexist showrunners of the Witcher, I hope their act together, and if not, I hope they never get hired again. The disrespect they've shown to not only men, but the slavic culture as a whole, is just insane; It's crazy how normal it is today - that they can freely disrespect a culture and 50% of the worlds population without repercussion.
They still ignore the main problem of the show, they should have replaced the writers and the showrunner and not Henry.
Land of Bad was good