Vonn Bell, Kaden Ellis, Trey Hendrickson, Gardner Johnson, Marcus Williams, Rankin, Tuttle, Onyemata, Will Lutz, Morestead, Armstead, Ingram, Jenkins,..... We could cut all our current starters. Then resign all our cuts, and be a better team.
The point about ex-Saints that are showing out elsewhere is very telling about how the GMs and coaches evaluated talent and chose who to cut a check for. Having to pinch pennies in the young to pay for the restructures of the old for a decade is coming home to roost.
That’s what I’ve been saying for 5 years now. We keep letting go of the wrong players and keeping the wrong players. Hendrickson Elliss Baun and more doin well elsewhere. We suck but all those players are doing well.
The saints are a dumpster fire! The fish rots from the head down, and this team stinks. Change needs to start at the top and continue all the way down to the locker room. Defense was pitiful, gonna be a long rebuild.
The problem is the cap. Weve pushed the money down the line too long and cant afford quality depth at all. We need to pay. And restart. Starting with the draft. Sell the farm, and grab every position you can from the draft dude.
@@dwjoseph59 I've said it so much that I'm tired of saying it and honestly,I don't even care anymore and that's a shame because I bleed black and gold but I can't support this garbage anymore
think Bobby uses this as therapy to relieve his frustrations. We all know what you're saying, sir. Most of us been saying this stuff for a few years but it has come to a head with all these injuries. Yeah we need to clear house. Our D used to be a bend but don't break ..now they just break. And when we keep punting and putting them back on the field this is what happens even to a bad team like the Raiders. I can't blame coaches for this fiasco. Injuries are part of the game, sure but ALL our playmakers out is asking too much. Kamara, Taysom, Olave, Shaheed, and OL starting who wouldn't even make most teams practice squads..it really is front office hurting us.
Kendre Miller is a injury bust, needs to be traded asap! Joe Woods needs to fired immediately along with our scout draft team (Ireland). They all need to go!
Blah, blah, blah. You should start the podcast with Loomis & this whackass cap management & why we are here … again. Saints got some serious, serious issues & a bunch of OLD ass players.
If Saints would have drafted right Lamar J or Mahomes would be a Saint. Davenport and Lattimore still not on team. Lamar J and Mohomes is consistently in playoffs. Just bad drafting. Held on to Brees to dern long IMO.
Saints are in a long losing stretch that will go on for many years . There like in the 70 's to 80 's teams. No idea how to draft, coach , or manage team then or now. I went through those years , not doing again too old
Saints limit what the media is allowed to ask , particularly Loomis. If you cross the line , you lose your interview privileges. The Saints control Saints Report , and throw off anyone who is critical of the front office
The soft ball questions that these people ask. Look at any interviews. No one gets out of line with the questions. They just talk about the real question they wanna ask on podcasts. @WWLsports
They could have drafted Bowers. May have had to trade up but they couldn't bc they needed o-line. Why? Bc they missed on picks, and they didn't go and get a starter in free agency. Didn't even look at one so that they had to draft o-line.
Herbert your so funny, we are not the worst team in the league wtf. Does it matter either way we suck and have missed the playoffs for what 4-5 years now. Seriously I don't care that they 31 not 32.they suck don't sugar coat it...what Benson got you on payroll now too...smh this should be illegal...the false hope the media sells
We’re worse than the worst team in the league: not good enough to make the playoffs but not terrible enough to get the top pick or so to draft a franchise QB. 5-12 picking 10th. That doesn’t help much.
@walterheisenberg251 no but that's how they win your trust now. So then during preseason your all in. They will promise you the moon 10-7 and reality is your 5-12. They never talk about lack of depth throughout the team at every position..why because Loomis is responsible for that and he's got them either paid off or blackmailed ...they been doing this for years unless you been watching this for 30-40 years you'd never know. This team won a Superbowl despite Mickey Loomis not because of him. Sean Payton and Brees could of won 2-3 Superbowls had Loomis not had the team in cap hell with mediocre players....wake tf up
Saints made the Raiders look great! Hebert talked more about the Raiders and how the Raiders are no good than his Saints who have been running to the bottom of the league!
One of the most important things here is not only aging players with not a proficient conditioning staff, yet no actual adjustments by the coaching staff during the game or after halftime. The best plan would be to start over and bring in a new face to lead the franchise while getting rid of those who are not part of the rebuild. May have to take two steps backward before any can come forward.
I Agree Bobby!! I just can't get over the offensive line play by these other Teams! The Energy! The Effort! The Consistency! We need players like that! 💯 Defense? We need to get younger and FASTER!!💯💯💯
The front office & scouting department needs to be fired period. Loomis record prior to Payton wasn't good after Payton had left horrible! He doesn't tale any accountability for anything but acts like arrogant jerk when lay the facts in front of him. Scouting has been terrible draft picks have been mediocre outside few players since 2017. New blood is needed with new ideas that has no ties to NO get out of comfort zone. Gayle hopefully will do right thing clean house start over if not then this organization will continue to lose.
Watched Atlanta with Pemix, Bucuneers with Mayfield and Panthers with Young and I look at the Saints in comparison, time for the bags to come out of the closet. Saints arent even close to competing.
You like good old boys. The Raiders were 3 and 10. Obviously they leaned on the tight end because they loss a top receiver. To say you were a QB in the NFL you give Madden advice
Get rid of all the high dollar players who are milking the money and nothing to show far. Bobby is right total rebuild. Would be nice if we could get Nussmier in 2026 draft
She hires people to handle the team. They need to do their job. So I'm sure she is going to be up in their business this off season bc she at least has a desire to protect her investment
I hope any defensive player they bring in next year, are known for their speed, and tackling. I don't think the Saints will get a top HC candidate. The cap needs to be fixed, and they should have a core of young players by that time. Unless they believe that they found the next Payton. I say ride with Rizzi, and fix the cap. I think he is a leader, and with the right coaches around him, he can succeed.
I wrote this for Raider Nation, yet it applies to you as well; In 2007, I had a long talk with the voice of Optimus Prime (Peter Cullen) from the Transformers - in which we talked about fans, how celebrities dont like you. Why? First, look how you've made winning versus losing about you & not about the players & staff actually involved? In addition, Look at all the hate you've spewed about Carr, AOC & Gannon? What's to like about you profane & gabbed, useless eaters, stuffing your faces with GMO nachos & drinking Lite beer? Theres nothing to like about any of you - the reason why celebrities have security. Most of all, at days end theres a sign that reads RAIDERS PERSONEL ONLY - which is when & where your participation ends
Ms. B is a lovely lady but not a football executive who can make the hard decisions. I do not believe she will ever remove Loomis. The bottom line is we need a total rebuild from top to bottom. Just look at how a rookie QB is developing under Sean Payton.
Every team has injuries, but most who win dont have multiple injuries in key positions all at the same time. If the Saints are healthy, they're in the playoffs, if multiple players in key positions are out at the same time, you're not winning in the NFL.
Bobby we the worst team just like you were the worst qb in the league against the eagles in the wildcard. The raiders play in the afc west that’s why there 3-12. There way better then us we suck the giants should of beat us so stop saying that we got lucky against the giants we are the worst by far
They need to fire everyone and blow up the roster. They should cut or trade carr. Mrs Benson needs to fire Mickey Loomis and get a competent Gm. Get rid of all the coaches and start a new. Hopefully we can some good players next year because we are hot dog poo.
The Saints has to get a Head Coach that can Bond and build a relationship with Rattler!! Same as Sean Payton and Drew Brees! 💯💯💯 Can't wait to see who we get! ✔️
Anyone saying rattler better than Carr please go in a quiet room and cry. Lmao😂 0-5. Please release Carr saints and get him outta this dumpster fire. He deserves better.
Hush Carr lovers, you said any other franchise is better than Raiders. Now, he is in another dumpster fire??? Give me a break. Go in a quiet room and cry because no great franchise would want Carr. And Carr doesn't deserve better.
Spencer Rattler is so bad. It's crazy that people still defend him. It's still crazy that the leading retired Saints player that comments on the team is a dude who's only significant success was in the USFL.
Vonn Bell, Kaden Ellis, Trey Hendrickson, Gardner Johnson, Marcus Williams, Rankin, Tuttle, Onyemata, Will Lutz, Morestead, Armstead, Ingram, Jenkins,..... We could cut all our current starters. Then resign all our cuts, and be a better team.
You forgot Zach Baun
Hell half of Denver’s team are ex Saints
Mickey Mickey Mickey
And this is the reason Mickey shouldn’t have a job
ESPECIALLY CEEDY DEUCE
The point about ex-Saints that are showing out elsewhere is very telling about how the GMs and coaches evaluated talent and chose who to cut a check for. Having to pinch pennies in the young to pay for the restructures of the old for a decade is coming home to roost.
That’s what I’ve been saying for 5 years now. We keep letting go of the wrong players and keeping the wrong players.
Hendrickson
Elliss
Baun and more doin well elsewhere. We suck but all those players are doing well.
Fire Mickey
Uncle Bobby keeps it 💯, that's why I listen to him
The saints are a dumpster fire! The fish rots from the head down, and this team stinks. Change needs to start at the top and continue all the way down to the locker room. Defense was pitiful, gonna be a long rebuild.
The problem is the cap. Weve pushed the money down the line too long and cant afford quality depth at all. We need to pay. And restart. Starting with the draft. Sell the farm, and grab every position you can from the draft dude.
Loomis got us into this hole, he will dig us deeper.
Loomis’ process is the problem. Brees and Peyton clearly made up for Loomis’ deficiencies.
Until Mickey Loomis either steps down or is fired,NOTHING WILL CHANGE
Preach!
He's a stubborn bull that has to go 💯💯👍👍
Absolutely Correct!!!
@@dwjoseph59 I've said it so much that I'm tired of saying it and honestly,I don't even care anymore and that's a shame because I bleed black and gold but I can't support this garbage anymore
IF THEY DON;T GET RID OF LOOMIS THEY WILL NEVER BE A WINNING TEAM AGAIN
think Bobby uses this as therapy to relieve his frustrations. We all know what you're saying, sir. Most of us been saying this stuff for a few years but it has come to a head with all these injuries. Yeah we need to clear house. Our D used to be a bend but don't break ..now they just break. And when we keep punting and putting them back on the field this is what happens even to a bad team like the Raiders. I can't blame coaches for this fiasco. Injuries are part of the game, sure but ALL our playmakers out is asking too much. Kamara, Taysom, Olave, Shaheed, and OL starting who wouldn't even make most teams practice squads..it really is front office hurting us.
Conditioning and strength dept is trash get rid of the whole group!!!
Kendre Miller is a injury bust, needs to be traded asap! Joe Woods needs to fired immediately along with our scout draft team (Ireland). They all need to go!
Blah, blah, blah. You should start the podcast with Loomis & this whackass cap management & why we are here … again. Saints got some serious, serious issues & a bunch of OLD ass players.
If Saints would have drafted right Lamar J or Mahomes would be a Saint. Davenport and Lattimore still not on team. Lamar J and Mohomes is consistently in playoffs. Just bad drafting. Held on to Brees to dern long IMO.
that's why Jeff Ireland has to be fired along with Mickey Loomis . . . . .
No succession plan. On Mickey
Mickey's Mess.
Saints are in a long losing stretch that will go on for many years . There like in the 70 's to 80 's teams. No idea how to draft, coach , or manage team then or now. I went through those years , not doing again too old
GM change will speed it up considerably.
Already FOUR years behind on starting a rebuild
Saints limit what the media is allowed to ask , particularly Loomis. If you cross the line , you lose your interview privileges. The Saints control Saints Report , and throw off anyone who is critical of the front office
Feel free to provide literally one example of this happening.
The soft ball questions that these people ask. Look at any interviews. No one gets out of line with the questions. They just talk about the real question they wanna ask on podcasts. @WWLsports
They could have drafted Bowers. May have had to trade up but they couldn't bc they needed o-line. Why? Bc they missed on picks, and they didn't go and get a starter in free agency. Didn't even look at one so that they had to draft o-line.
General Mismanagement
Sean Payton is winning.
Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn are winning. All were in New Orleans.
Herbert your so funny, we are not the worst team in the league wtf. Does it matter either way we suck and have missed the playoffs for what 4-5 years now. Seriously I don't care that they 31 not 32.they suck don't sugar coat it...what Benson got you on payroll now too...smh this should be illegal...the false hope the media sells
4 year no playoffs. Every year w Mickey as GM is another year w no playoffs
Hebert
We’re worse than the worst team in the league: not good enough to make the playoffs but not terrible enough to get the top pick or so to draft a franchise QB. 5-12 picking 10th. That doesn’t help much.
@@franciscopomar2942 I didn’t get any hope from this video.
@walterheisenberg251 no but that's how they win your trust now. So then during preseason your all in. They will promise you the moon 10-7 and reality is your 5-12. They never talk about lack of depth throughout the team at every position..why because Loomis is responsible for that and he's got them either paid off or blackmailed ...they been doing this for years unless you been watching this for 30-40 years you'd never know. This team won a Superbowl despite Mickey Loomis not because of him. Sean Payton and Brees could of won 2-3 Superbowls had Loomis not had the team in cap hell with mediocre players....wake tf up
They where watching the giants game after half and said let's get that top 5 pick
You never called out the problem when it was happening. When Mickey said that dumb comment you justified it
That gum smacking con man would still have Dense as HC if Gayle hadn’t forced him
Can't believe my Raiders whooped that ass... Are the saints really that bad. Sweet redemption from 2 yrs ago. Brock Bowers best TE in football period
Bowers is awesome. Just sad our GM took your trash HC and QB
Saints made the Raiders look great! Hebert talked more about the Raiders and how the Raiders are no good than his Saints who have been running to the bottom of the league!
One of the most important things here is not only aging players with not a proficient conditioning staff, yet no actual adjustments by the coaching staff during the game or after halftime. The best plan would be to start over and bring in a new face to lead the franchise while getting rid of those who are not part of the rebuild. May have to take two steps backward before any can come forward.
Mickey has taken us ten steps backward. We are the third best team in a trash division.
Maybe not even third best
I Agree Bobby!! I just can't get over the offensive line play by these other Teams! The Energy! The Effort! The Consistency! We need players like that! 💯 Defense? We need to get younger and FASTER!!💯💯💯
You blaming the defense but what did offense do?
Klint Karmichael can’t keep a drive going
for whatever reason, Bobby just won't say that Loomis has got to go . . . along with Jeff Ireland
No one will speak out. Their press card will be pulled.
@@TheWickedNurse if that's so, then it's a crying shame . . . . .
This. See Ross Jackson for another example.
That's like having to say a 4 day old dead armadillo stinks. It's apparent.
Hearing rumors that Wyn Wun Suun will be the next head coach of the Saints. Stay tuned.
No more Billy Joes!!!
Herbert i know you don't want to say his name but you can say it. Mickey is the problem
The front office & scouting department needs to be fired period. Loomis record prior to Payton wasn't good after Payton had left horrible! He doesn't tale any accountability for anything but acts like arrogant jerk when lay the facts in front of him. Scouting has been terrible draft picks have been mediocre outside few players since 2017. New blood is needed with new ideas that has no ties to NO get out of comfort zone. Gayle hopefully will do right thing clean house start over if not then this organization will continue to lose.
Watched Atlanta with Pemix, Bucuneers with Mayfield and Panthers with Young and I look at the Saints in comparison, time for the bags to come out of the closet. Saints arent even close to competing.
You like good old boys. The Raiders were 3 and 10. Obviously they leaned on the tight end because they loss a top receiver. To say you were a QB in the NFL you give Madden advice
Get rid of all the high dollar players who are milking the money and nothing to show far. Bobby is right total rebuild. Would be nice if we could get Nussmier in 2026 draft
We are going 5-12.
Forever.
Until Mickey is gone
Foster a Stud was awesome with Raiders
It STARTS WITH GAYLE
She hires people to handle the team. They need to do their job. So I'm sure she is going to be up in their business this off season bc she at least has a desire to protect her investment
FIRING MICKEY...
Mickey Loomis Should be watched and evaluated on his job this coming Draft etc. If Ms . Benson Plans on keeping him around! 💯💯💯
Kubiak is the damn problem
Loomis is bigger.
Klint Kant Koach
Boy they suck. I would love to see Bobby interview Loomis. 🤔
he has many times lol he's not gonna jeopardize his job by asking tough questions
For what? He'll just ask a bunch of softball questions
😂😂😂
This was so bad my highschool team can beat saints and a few of my players are going to Auburn
Old on defense. Not talented on the offensive line and wide receivers. Need a new QB. We seem to have a good punter and kicker, that's about it.
I hope any defensive player they bring in next year, are known for their speed, and tackling.
I don't think the Saints will get a top HC candidate. The cap needs to be fixed, and they should have a core of young players by that time. Unless they believe that they found the next Payton. I say ride with Rizzi, and fix the cap. I think he is a leader, and with the right coaches around him, he can succeed.
I wrote this for Raider Nation, yet it applies to you as well;
In 2007, I had a long talk with the voice of Optimus Prime (Peter Cullen) from the Transformers - in which we talked about fans, how celebrities dont like you. Why? First, look how you've made winning versus losing about you & not about the players & staff actually involved? In addition, Look at all the hate you've spewed about Carr, AOC & Gannon? What's to like about you profane & gabbed, useless eaters, stuffing your faces with GMO nachos & drinking Lite beer? Theres nothing to like about any of you - the reason why celebrities have security. Most of all, at days end theres a sign that reads RAIDERS PERSONEL ONLY - which is when & where your participation ends
Ms. B is a lovely lady but not a football executive who can make the hard decisions. I do not believe she will ever remove Loomis. The bottom line is we need a total rebuild from top to bottom. Just look at how a rookie QB is developing under Sean Payton.
Fire Tricky Doomis he ruined this organization
Monkey Lupus must geaux
Bobby start a Pickleball or Cornhole league in tha dome😂
With the available starters, we are the worse team in the NFL. Imagine Derek Carr, Alvin Kamara, and McCoy not playing in that game 🤔
P.S. Mr. Benson would rollover in his Grave if She Sold this Team!! He didn't sell the Team! 💯💯💯
Injuries are only an excuse for playoff teams but we aren’t there.
This is just another example of Herbert desperately trying to remain relevant in today's NFL.
Very few people even remember him
Every team has injuries, but most who win dont have multiple injuries in key positions all at the same time.
If the Saints are healthy, they're in the playoffs, if multiple players in key positions are out at the same time, you're not winning in the NFL.
Raiders are hurt too and blew us out at 3-13 stop the excuses. We aren’t good with no depth!
Raiders player for player are much more talented. Sorry bro just being honest
Commanders have half their O line out, they’re going to post season.
Mind you they have a better GM and QB
Saints suck
I thought Jake Haener was the problem?
he’s not the answer shut up
Loomis is the problem
Put The Mannings in charge to rebuild the Saints and Draft Arch Manning! Give the Saints fans hope!
Bobby we the worst team just like you were the worst qb in the league against the eagles in the wildcard. The raiders play in the afc west that’s why there 3-12. There way better then us we suck the giants should of beat us so stop saying that we got lucky against the giants we are the worst by far
They need to fire everyone and blow up the roster. They should cut or trade carr. Mrs Benson needs to fire Mickey Loomis and get a competent Gm. Get rid of all the coaches and start a new. Hopefully we can some good players next year because we are hot dog poo.
The Saints has to get a Head Coach that can Bond and build a relationship with Rattler!! Same as Sean Payton and Drew Brees! 💯💯💯 Can't wait to see who we get! ✔️
Anyone saying rattler better than Carr please go in a quiet room and cry. Lmao😂 0-5. Please release Carr saints and get him outta this dumpster fire. He deserves better.
Carr has a no trade clause. He can ask to be traded any time he wants..
And he should
Hush Carr lovers, you said any other franchise is better than Raiders. Now, he is in another dumpster fire??? Give me a break. Go in a quiet room and cry because no great franchise would want Carr. And Carr doesn't deserve better.
Mickey loomis is a stubborn bull 🐃🐂🐮, what happens if he's ultra petty & gives the new coaching staff problems next season?!?! #IJS
Uncle Bobby ,we love you, talk to Ms Benson, Mickey Loomis needs to step down
Nothing is going to change until Loomis steps down as GM
As long as Loomis is the GM, why watch anymore? It won’t get better and you’re only subjecting yourself to misery.
I think this is purposely to get a better draft pick.
We are pick 10, have been for five or six weeks.
Our loss to the Bucs next week may not even change that.
Spencer Rattler is so bad. It's crazy that people still defend him.
It's still crazy that the leading retired Saints player that comments on the team is a dude who's only significant success was in the USFL.
JAMAL IS A WASTE