This happened even in hospitals. 2 pharmacists from Thunder Bays hospital were fired when they got caught doing it and putting the money in their own pockets.
Please tell me how this will make a difference? Lower prices mean lower quality drugs, Loss of jobs in the pharma industry, zero counselling from pharmacists. Pharmacists save thousands of lives every year by catching prescribing errors from doctors. Pharmacists have already taken a 50% decline in wages over the decade. Low profitability for pharma companies means they reduce production leading to drug shortages. Generic drugs are already cheap and cost about 10% of brand name drugs. Drug shortages are real and already happening. The prices of several generic drugs have been reduced recently. This investigative journalism is lacking.
The chemical properties of the thing being supplied are not improved by an illegal kickback or even a legal markup. The kickback is paid to the retailer who cannot use that money to improve the quality. If someone has shady purchasing practices, their labor practices can be expected to be equally bad. This practice of taking kickbacks has taken place *During* the wage decline. This piece sheds light on the real economics of drug sales, which can better inform our worker-rights advocacy. I am with you on that.
@@victorthurse6027 your definition of shady is vague since this is every pharmacy in North America. But I have to say compared to most people who watch a show like Fifth Estate you seem more intelligent than average.
@@victorthurse6027 the pharmacy business is no longer a decent way to make a living. I predict a huge loss of jobs and small businesses since generics are already so cheap.
This was the reason for price disclosure in Australia which drove down prices yet pharmacies still get a "rebate" of 85% on some lines. I worked as a pharmacist at a place charging people $71.70 for a set of 3 scripts that cost a combined $7. That pharmacy did up to 300 scripts a day. Yet pharmacist wages have been stagnant for nearly 20 years. Owners greed through the 90s and early 2000's has killed our reputation. Professional standards and integrity in this industry are non-existent.
Maryland now uses drug court to force big pharma on addicts or go to prison .. Missing one dose of any methadone suboxon subutex or the shot offwred each month results in automatic warrant
@@brianmoore5388 wow - that is terrible - I am currently on methadone patient in Australia - crazy to read all these replies - please expand on your comment with more info / would be very appreciated
i think i know a pharmacy doing this in the US. they forcefully switched brands on us and refused to give us another brand. they said if it wasnt working we needed to get a different medication. it was a pain medication from china and was like taking a placebo for a real pain condition. It was a Rite Aid in North Carolina by the way.
Hi this is legal in 95% of North America and should be made legal in Ontario. Let's not speculate. It's also possible the brand was on back order. Episodes like this are sensationalistic. Please try to see through the sensationalism the media sells.
@Sig Kimber do you get upset when your grocery store negotiates prices with its vendor? Food and medication is a business at the end of the day. If you want to pay less you can expect lower quality and zero counselling services from the pharmacists. Pharmacists save thousands of lives every year.
@@michellecollison6191 "Pharmacists save thousands of lives every year". Hahaha! SERIOUSLY!?!? Pharmacists are just legal drug dealers! Making money off of supplying drugs to sick people--drugs that usually only make people more sick. I'm not saying all medication is bad, but most of it is. A lot of it contains toxic ingredients. Most of it has side effects worse than the condition it's prescribed to treat. Some medicines cause other long term health issues. Saying pharmacists are saving lives is just plain ridiculous.
This episode was already uploaded 3 weeks ago.... Love the fifth estate but you guys don't upload enough episodes fast enough, and when you do you upload repeated videos.... Please fix this ASAP
Pathetic ! Licenced gangsters ? Government regulators seem to be accomplices as they paved the way when they sold them their license . Is there forfeiture potential ? Appears to be a crime here.
@Holly Shultz understand that your argument is completely flawed, makes no sense, and you don't even get my very basic point. I'm stating they should upload more content that hadn't already been uploaded.
It's the FIRST I've heard of it.....And They should keep uploading it for more people like myself!.......................... Not all of us Live on RUclips!
You know what profit margins we are talking about if everyone has their hands out? This is so disgusting. This doesn't even include the politicians "rebates" which we will never hear about. This means our expensive prescription meds we have to have really should cost as much as a cup of coffee.
A basic 30 day script should cost less than $10 no matter what. By basic, I mean the most commonly prescribed drugs that have been around for years. (I'm not referring to new meds or those used to treat rare diseases. These cost more for various reasons.) Those common pills probably only cost between $0.03 - 0.10 a piece to make. So that's $0.90 - 3.00 manufacturing cost for a month's prescription. At the highest amount of $3.00, that gives the company a $7.00 profit on 1 script. Multiplied by 12 months in a year, that's $84 profit per year per script. Now consider that one medication could easily be prescribed to over a million people per year. That's $84 million dollars from just 1 medication! Many of these companies have dozens of medications and they're sold at much higher markups than my example, so we're talking billions of dollars coming in. Even without majorly jacking up the price, these pharmaceutical giants are making massive fortunes! Obviously I gave a very simplified breakdown. This is just an example in order to show you how much money these companies stand to make. I understand the companies have quite a lot of overhead. This includes research, marketing and advertising, legal, distribution, etc. But believe it or not, they can and do cover all these costs (and more) with each pill just costing a few cents, and some cost only fractions of a cent. That sounds hard to believe, but you have to realize they are selling millions of pills a month, billions a year. (If one person takes 3 pills a day, that's 1,095 pills per year. Multiply that by an extremely conservative estimate of 1.5 million customers per year and you get 1,642,500,000 pills sold. Then multiply that by the profit on each pill and it's a boatload of money!) The longer a pill is manufactured, the cheaper it becomes to create. A pill is most expensive before it is released and when it's brand new, because that's where most of the costs are incurred. But after it's been sold for several years, all the upstart expenses have been recouped. *Long story short:* Big Pharma could easily make medication affordable to everyone, even those without insurance. They simply don't want to, because they know they can get away with charging much more and they're making sickening amounts of money.
I feel sorry for the pharmacists. Nobody deserves such awful treatment from the media. The Fifth Estate never covered how the prices of generic drugs were reduced last year.
Christine Still I have not seen any comments saying that. The USA is probably just as bad. Theses corrupt, greedy, powers that be do not care about borders, they only care about how much $ they can get from the billions of hard working individuals they claim to be helping. We are ALL humans, bleed red and there’s no reason to hate each other because of this. I will never understand the hatred some people have. And hope I never do.
Canada is Funding organised terrorism from our soil. See how that's done!! And it's fully supported by our system. It's happening in health care(fake dr anyone), real estate(1 foreigner buying up 50+ properties across Canada, while Canadians who've contributed for many generations, wind up homeless because they can't afford 2500$\month for a bachelor worth 300$\month), and many other ways their wreaking havoc on our systems.. Oh the crap we have to look forward to. Because facing the truth is too difficult. Where does one get the $$$$$ to buy up 50 properties anyways???? If life was SO AWFUL back home, how do you become a millionaire in 10months??? Not all. But MANY are involved.. We weren't helping the poor little refugee children who didn't have the money to buy an impressive resume.. But they use images of these children to get in as refugees, or straight up buy their way in. Because our government is corrupt and is providing loopholes that hurt our people(they privately get their own kickbacks I'm sshhhhhure). I'm all for helping ACTUAL refugees. But I'm Not ok with rich foreigners masquerading as survivors of war, hiding behind children who lose their chance at coming here, to rich terrorists, who go in to cause serious issues in our communities. We should be deporting those who commit crimes against those who live here. And immediately bring in a child in need to take their place.. And everyone gets mad when you try to defend your own people, Because the truth makes them unconfortable. I don't care about race, but it's obvious they have no respect for us. Coming here to conduct illegal business, with no regard for how it impacts the people here. Not ok.. Justice WILL PREVAIL!!! Nobody's getting away with ANYTHING!!!!! Just my "opinion" from what I've observed in my community... Most of this community is owned by foreigners.. There's no excuse.. The truth is available to anyone who cares to know. Can we complain about the consequences when we ignored the truth and coddled those who wish to destroy us.?? I don't think so. In retrospect it's not any different than what happened to my ancestors.. So there ya go.. It is what it is
The issue is not as clear as the programme suggests. In most businesses, you´re likely to get a lower price the more you buy. This lower price might be reflected as a discount on the invoice or a periodical cash return. The pharmacy can reduce their prices to the public by the amount of the volume rebate they get - or not. If they don´t reduce their prices, then market forces should lead to them losing sales. There´s capitalism at work for you! The good and the lousy. It´s a lousy system, but no-one has invented a viable alternative, so far.
Tht crazy they doin COSCO cuz I went there one time to fill my script and needed to use an RX coupon and he was like I gota check to c if I can accept tht discount. We can accept long as it isn't lower than our buying price cuz we gota make sure we can still make our $$ from u using the coupon ! Wow lol smh
I have a question... Why cant the consumers pay the rebate? That way...the big pharmaceutical companies would have to legemitaly compete with one another . .and eventually drive the market down far enough so that the consumers could then afford their medication! And also....it would drop the price of medical insurance! Can anyone tell me whats wrong with that picture?
THE CONSUMER IS ALREADY OVERPAYING MOST PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD WHAT THEY PAY NOW. I OWN A PHARMACY AND THE PHARMACEUTICAL BENEFIT MANAGERS CHARGE SO MUCH I CAN BARELY AFFORD MY COPD MEDS, NORMALLY MY DISCOUNT AS AN OWNER WOULD BE THE PROFIT. SINCE THEY DON'T ALLOW US A PROFIT ON COPD MEDS, I HAVE TO PAY $150.00 A MONTH. THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. WE FILL SCRIPTS AT A LOSS.
@@shannonmullis9916 maybe you never got the memo. But the prices for several generic molecules were reduced last year. The Fifth Estate conveniently left that part out. Everyone needs to make a living and pharmaceuticals is a business not charity.
But taxpayers also pay for other useless stuff like oversized police departments, financial lawsuits. This is bad but not as bad as the previous two. The only ones not paying are the multimillionaires
As if these guys don't get paid enough for counting pills and labelling a bottle. Obviously rebates increase profits for both drug manufacturers and pharmacies
People like you are so misinformed about what pharmacists do. My recommendations to you would be to self medicate and order your meds online from China. All the best!
@@jonieisenberg2794 yes pharmacy is no longer a profitable business like it was 20 years ago. Ontario Drug Benefit barely cover cost of some drugs. Then there is the media spreading stupid sensationalistic stories. With the way things are it's better to own a convenience store.
Todd they do much more than count pills, they ensure there are no interactions, provide vaccinations, med checks, give free advice all the time and are much more engaged in patient care than doctor sometimes.
Why do you think they care if everybody has Health Care? Do you really think "the side effects" are side effects or what the pill is designed to give you? so they can also give you that "side effect" and treat that as well so they make money off both ends.
This story is missing some vital information. Please read letter below sent by a pharmacist. Dear Mr Kelly, I would like to congratulate you on this episode of Fifth Estate that was aired on Jan 13, 2019. However, it was missing an important element which is to interview a pharmacist. I believe that it is not fair for pharmacist to be attacked by you for the sake of making noise and news without interviewing one of them. Although you did a good job on showing greedy they are when asking for money, you wouldnt be any better than them if you dont show the whole picture of the business and why pharmacists are after these rebates. I will be more than happy to give you a clear picture on how the pharmacy operates in relation to suppliers and third party payers. I am a licensed pharmacist in Ontario 1999. Best Regards. He replied Hi, We appreciate getting feedback and story ideas from our viewers and our team of journalists reads every email that comes to our show. Unfortunately due to volume of email we recieve we are unable to individually reply. This is sensationalist media for you.
I'm pretty sure that when a pharmacist THINKS he's being open and honest about his dealings with a drug rep... and openly talking about breaking the law -- he's made a statement and an "interview". Not one constructed and all lawyer up for print and camera. The greed factor speaks volumes here in the honesty factor. They see a potential new drug supplier -- GREED kicks in -- and a self-serving, openly honest exchange starts between the crook & crook. It's a lesson as old as time. Stop trying to defend the blatant video and words presented. You're just making yourself out to look even more silly than those taking the cash.
@@carpediem2445 agreed. Prices in USA are outrageous in comparison to Canada. Generic drugs in Canada are about 10% the cost of brand name drugs and have never been so affordable. This video is purely sensationalistic.
@@michellecollison6191 I KNOW THAT. THE ONLY PEOPLE MAKING MONEY ARE THE PHARMACEUTICAL BENEFIT MANAGERS . THEY ARE TAKING EVERY PENNY OF PROFIT WE COULD EVER HOPE TO MAKE. THEIR CEO'S MAKE A YEARLY SALARY IN THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT WAS WITH A B.....BILLIONS.
If you are a pharmacist and reading this please write to the CBC Ombudsman and tell them your side of the story. The average person is going to think pharmacists get a $7 kickback which is misinformation. Pharmacists need to stand together and speak up because the media is trying to portray you as greedy beings. It is irresponsible journalism to leave out what thousands of pharmacists have to say. A pharmacists declining wages should be reason enough for you to speak up.
Here's a idea, how about you just stop breaking the law and cheating the consumer. It's doesn't matter if it's a rebate of 70%, 7%, $7 or 7¢, it's suppose to be Zero. Don't be Goofs...
@@BigKarl519 do you get upset when your grocery store negotiates prices with its vendors? Food and medication is a business at the end of the day. No one wants to work for free.
Attention Hez... What do you mean I don't understand? I.( not like you!) Came up with a solution! If you can't contribute a solution.then I have THINK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!! Till that happens I stick with what I said!!
Lmao That sounds silly that you are not allowed pens. Generic drugs are already so cheap and only 10% the cost of brand name drugs. In most cases the active ingredient is also manufactured in the same factory for several generic drug companies. The only thing that matters is the medication work well for the patient and pharmacists know this too.
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This happened even in hospitals. 2 pharmacists from Thunder Bays hospital were fired when they got caught doing it and putting the money in their own pockets.
When investigative journalism is done best, it makes a difference for everyone. Well done, Fifth Estate.
Please tell me how this will make a difference? Lower prices mean lower quality drugs, Loss of jobs in the pharma industry, zero counselling from pharmacists. Pharmacists save thousands of lives every year by catching prescribing errors from doctors. Pharmacists have already taken a 50% decline in wages over the decade. Low profitability for pharma companies means they reduce production leading to drug shortages. Generic drugs are already cheap and cost about 10% of brand name drugs. Drug shortages are real and already happening. The prices of several generic drugs have been reduced recently. This investigative journalism is lacking.
The chemical properties of the thing being supplied are not improved by an illegal kickback or even a legal markup. The kickback is paid to the retailer who cannot use that money to improve the quality. If someone has shady purchasing practices, their labor practices can be expected to be equally bad. This practice of taking kickbacks has taken place *During* the wage decline. This piece sheds light on the real economics of drug sales, which can better inform our worker-rights advocacy. I am with you on that.
@@victorthurse6027 your definition of shady is vague since this is every pharmacy in North America. But I have to say compared to most people who watch a show like Fifth Estate you seem more intelligent than average.
@@victorthurse6027 the pharmacy business is no longer a decent way to make a living. I predict a huge loss of jobs and small businesses since generics are already so cheap.
This was the reason for price disclosure in Australia which drove down prices yet pharmacies still get a "rebate" of 85% on some lines. I worked as a pharmacist at a place charging people $71.70 for a set of 3 scripts that cost a combined $7. That pharmacy did up to 300 scripts a day. Yet pharmacist wages have been stagnant for nearly 20 years. Owners greed through the 90s and early 2000's has killed our reputation. Professional standards and integrity in this industry are non-existent.
This is a small part Fifth is allowed to talk about, read Mad in America, and Talking back to Rittalin!!!
The pharmacies in Van were paying cash kickbacks to Methadone and suboxone patients for referrals of other addicts.
Maryland now uses drug court to force big pharma on addicts or go to prison .. Missing one dose of any methadone suboxon subutex or the shot offwred each month results in automatic warrant
What / please expand ?? I am currently on methadone program in Australia
@@brianmoore5388 wow - that is terrible - I am currently on methadone patient in Australia - crazy to read all these replies - please expand on your comment with more info / would be very appreciated
This is GREED on a different level and this won't stop
i think i know a pharmacy doing this in the US. they forcefully switched brands on us and refused to give us another brand. they said if it wasnt working we needed to get a different medication. it was a pain medication from china and was like taking a placebo for a real pain condition. It was a Rite Aid in North Carolina by the way.
Hi this is legal in 95% of North America and should be made legal in Ontario. Let's not speculate. It's also possible the brand was on back order. Episodes like this are sensationalistic. Please try to see through the sensationalism the media sells.
@Sig Kimber do you get upset when your grocery store negotiates prices with its vendor? Food and medication is a business at the end of the day. If you want to pay less you can expect lower quality and zero counselling services from the pharmacists. Pharmacists save thousands of lives every year.
@@michellecollison6191
So? Pharmacist? Tech? Why do you deny the importance?
WHAT TOWN IN NORTH CAROLINA?
@@michellecollison6191 "Pharmacists save thousands of lives every year". Hahaha! SERIOUSLY!?!? Pharmacists are just legal drug dealers! Making money off of supplying drugs to sick people--drugs that usually only make people more sick. I'm not saying all medication is bad, but most of it is. A lot of it contains toxic ingredients. Most of it has side effects worse than the condition it's prescribed to treat. Some medicines cause other long term health issues. Saying pharmacists are saving lives is just plain ridiculous.
This episode was already uploaded 3 weeks ago.... Love the fifth estate but you guys don't upload enough episodes fast enough, and when you do you upload repeated videos.... Please fix this ASAP
They only get $5 million dollars a day in taxpayer subsidy what do you expect eh!
Good to know. CBC's Fifth Estate is Such a waste of my tax money.
Pathetic !
Licenced gangsters ?
Government regulators seem to be accomplices as they paved the way when they sold them their license .
Is there forfeiture potential ?
Appears to be a crime here.
@Holly Shultz understand that your argument is completely flawed, makes no sense, and you don't even get my very basic point. I'm stating they should upload more content that hadn't already been uploaded.
It's the FIRST I've heard of it.....And They should keep uploading it for more people like myself!.......................... Not all of us Live on RUclips!
You know what profit margins we are talking about if everyone has their hands out? This is so disgusting. This doesn't even include the politicians "rebates" which we will never hear about. This means our expensive prescription meds we have to have really should cost as much as a cup of coffee.
A basic 30 day script should cost less than $10 no matter what.
By basic, I mean the most commonly prescribed drugs that have been around for years. (I'm not referring to new meds or those used to treat rare diseases. These cost more for various reasons.)
Those common pills probably only cost between $0.03 - 0.10 a piece to make. So that's $0.90 - 3.00 manufacturing cost for a month's prescription. At the highest amount of $3.00, that gives the company a $7.00 profit on 1 script. Multiplied by 12 months in a year, that's $84 profit per year per script. Now consider that one medication could easily be prescribed to over a million people per year. That's $84 million dollars from just 1 medication! Many of these companies have dozens of medications and they're sold at much higher markups than my example, so we're talking billions of dollars coming in. Even without majorly jacking up the price, these pharmaceutical giants are making massive fortunes!
Obviously I gave a very simplified breakdown. This is just an example in order to show you how much money these companies stand to make.
I understand the companies have quite a lot of overhead. This includes research, marketing and advertising, legal, distribution, etc. But believe it or not, they can and do cover all these costs (and more) with each pill just costing a few cents, and some cost only fractions of a cent.
That sounds hard to believe, but you have to realize they are selling millions of pills a month, billions a year. (If one person takes 3 pills a day, that's 1,095 pills per year. Multiply that by an extremely conservative estimate of 1.5 million customers per year and you get 1,642,500,000 pills sold. Then multiply that by the profit on each pill and it's a boatload of money!)
The longer a pill is manufactured, the cheaper it becomes to create. A pill is most expensive before it is released and when it's brand new, because that's where most of the costs are incurred. But after it's been sold for several years, all the upstart expenses have been recouped.
*Long story short:* Big Pharma could easily make medication affordable to everyone, even those without insurance. They simply don't want to, because they know they can get away with charging much more and they're making sickening amounts of money.
Mark Martin, you're absolutely correct. It's terrible.
Re Upload??? Come on the only thing that came of this was a Corporation being charged... NONE OF THE SMALL PHARMACISTS....
This is sensationalist journalism. Not all the information is there.
He did say City hall was involved.......Maybe they take a kick back from The Little guy?
I feel sorry for the pharmacists. Nobody deserves such awful treatment from the media. The Fifth Estate never covered how the prices of generic drugs were reduced last year.
And of course, this doesn’t happen in the USA? Only in Canada? Ya, right!
Christine Still I have not seen any comments saying that.
The USA is probably just as bad. Theses corrupt, greedy, powers that be do not care about borders, they only care about how much $ they can get from the billions of hard working individuals they claim to be helping.
We are ALL humans, bleed red and there’s no reason to hate each other because of this.
I will never understand the hatred some people have. And hope I never do.
We’re these people ever prosecuted? Anything ever done about this.
So " City Hall " is involved? Hmmm!
Of course. They wouldn't get away with it without the support of our corrupt system..
Big shocker huh?
So pretty much everyone is corrupt?
No only the corrupt Dalton McGuinty made it so it's perfectly legal in every other province in Canada
This is what happens when you have regulation in all aspects of your life. This is a direct result of government.
What, this is new. NOT
think I will go vaccinate myself
Looks like immigrant pharmacy owners or managers.
Canada is Funding organised terrorism from our soil. See how that's done!! And it's fully supported by our system. It's happening in health care(fake dr anyone), real estate(1 foreigner buying up 50+ properties across Canada, while Canadians who've contributed for many generations, wind up homeless because they can't afford 2500$\month for a bachelor worth 300$\month), and many other ways their wreaking havoc on our systems.. Oh the crap we have to look forward to. Because facing the truth is too difficult. Where does one get the $$$$$ to buy up 50 properties anyways???? If life was SO AWFUL back home, how do you become a millionaire in 10months??? Not all. But MANY are involved.. We weren't helping the poor little refugee children who didn't have the money to buy an impressive resume.. But they use images of these children to get in as refugees, or straight up buy their way in. Because our government is corrupt and is providing loopholes that hurt our people(they privately get their own kickbacks I'm sshhhhhure). I'm all for helping ACTUAL refugees. But I'm Not ok with rich foreigners masquerading as survivors of war, hiding behind children who lose their chance at coming here, to rich terrorists, who go in to cause serious issues in our communities. We should be deporting those who commit crimes against those who live here. And immediately bring in a child in need to take their place.. And everyone gets mad when you try to defend your own people, Because the truth makes them unconfortable. I don't care about race, but it's obvious they have no respect for us. Coming here to conduct illegal business, with no regard for how it impacts the people here. Not ok.. Justice WILL PREVAIL!!! Nobody's getting away with ANYTHING!!!!!
Just my "opinion" from what I've observed in my community... Most of this community is owned by foreigners.. There's no excuse.. The truth is available to anyone who cares to know. Can we complain about the consequences when we ignored the truth and coddled those who wish to destroy us.?? I don't think so. In retrospect it's not any different than what happened to my ancestors.. So there ya go.. It is what it is
The issue is not as clear as the programme suggests. In most businesses, you´re likely to get a lower price the more you buy. This lower price might be reflected as a discount on the invoice or a periodical cash return. The pharmacy can reduce their prices to the public by the amount of the volume rebate they get - or not. If they don´t reduce their prices, then market forces should lead to them losing sales. There´s capitalism at work for you! The good and the lousy. It´s a lousy system, but no-one has invented a viable alternative, so far.
Tht crazy they doin COSCO cuz I went there one time to fill my script and needed to use an RX coupon and he was like I gota check to c if I can accept tht discount. We can accept long as it isn't lower than our buying price cuz we gota make sure we can still make our $$ from u using the coupon ! Wow lol smh
Usually drug reps are "dressed to the nines"...."Darren", looks a little sloppy?? I wouldn't have believed he was for real....just saying
Oh Ontario is special like that it's normal across all forms of business, but you would think
I have a question...
Why cant the consumers pay the rebate? That way...the big pharmaceutical companies would have to legemitaly compete with one another . .and eventually drive the market down far enough so that the consumers could then afford their medication!
And also....it would drop the price of medical insurance!
Can anyone tell me whats wrong with that picture?
THE CONSUMER IS ALREADY OVERPAYING MOST PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD WHAT THEY PAY NOW. I OWN A PHARMACY AND THE PHARMACEUTICAL BENEFIT MANAGERS
CHARGE SO MUCH I CAN BARELY AFFORD MY COPD MEDS, NORMALLY MY DISCOUNT AS AN OWNER WOULD BE THE PROFIT. SINCE THEY DON'T ALLOW US A PROFIT ON COPD MEDS, I HAVE TO PAY $150.00 A MONTH. THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. WE FILL SCRIPTS AT A LOSS.
@@jonieisenberg2794 yes the pharmacy business is tough and competitive. Im sick of the media portraying pharmacies as monsters.
um we are hence why the higher prices...
@@shannonmullis9916 maybe you never got the memo. But the prices for several generic molecules were reduced last year. The Fifth Estate conveniently left that part out. Everyone needs to make a living and pharmaceuticals is a business not charity.
Pharmacy system is poor and phethtic
But taxpayers also pay for other useless stuff like oversized police departments, financial lawsuits. This is bad but not as bad as the previous two. The only ones not paying are the multimillionaires
As if these guys don't get paid enough for counting pills and labelling a bottle. Obviously rebates increase profits for both drug manufacturers and pharmacies
People like you are so misinformed about what pharmacists do. My recommendations to you would be to self medicate and order your meds online from China. All the best!
WE HAVE TO BUY THOSE PILLS SMARTASS. THEN THE PHARMACEUTICAL BENEFIT MANAGERS
CHARGE US MORE THAN WE PAID.. DO YOU DO MATH?
@@michellecollison6191 I WISH I KNEW HOW TO BUY MEDS FROM CHINA.
@@jonieisenberg2794 yes pharmacy is no longer a profitable business like it was 20 years ago. Ontario Drug Benefit barely cover cost of some drugs. Then there is the media spreading stupid sensationalistic stories. With the way things are it's better to own a convenience store.
Todd they do much more than count pills, they ensure there are no interactions, provide vaccinations, med checks, give free advice all the time and are much more engaged in patient care than doctor sometimes.
Why do you think they care if everybody has Health Care? Do you really think "the side effects" are side effects or what the pill is designed to give you? so they can also give you that "side effect" and treat that as well so they make money off both ends.
McKesson is too big and powerful and nothing will change except the cost of all our medication
Haha / I can understand your comment - with attitudes like that yes - nothing will change - free the ganja
Am confused why the insurance companies don't do something about this when it is so obvious?
What is kickback?
tonka I’m asking as well lol
Why the repost TFE?
Guess the $5 million dollars a day taxpayers subsidy isn't enough to do a produce a descent piece of journalism
Because sensationalism sells.
Please arrest these guys.
Including your dad who works at Cosco's.
You are aware this is every single pharmacy in North America right? Your doctor gets kickbacks and so do government hospitals.
@@maurixiogarciasanchez7187 Haha. You are hilarious
This story is missing some vital information. Please read letter below sent by a pharmacist.
Dear Mr Kelly,
I would like to congratulate you on this episode of Fifth Estate that was aired on Jan 13, 2019. However, it was missing an important element which is to interview a pharmacist. I believe that it is not fair for pharmacist to be attacked by you for the sake of making noise and news without interviewing one of them. Although you did a good job on showing greedy they are when asking for money, you wouldnt be any better than them if you dont show the whole picture of the business and why pharmacists are after these rebates. I will be more than happy to give you a clear picture on how the pharmacy operates in relation to suppliers and third party payers. I am a licensed pharmacist in Ontario 1999. Best Regards.
He replied
Hi,
We appreciate getting feedback and story ideas from our viewers and our team of journalists reads every email that comes to our show. Unfortunately due to volume of email we recieve we are unable to individually reply.
This is sensationalist media for you.
Man stfu there's no excuse for flouting the law.
@@SpenserRoger this is legal in the rest of Canada and all of USA. Ontario should repeal the law. You guys are being fed half the information.
@@michellecollison6191 you smell of special interest.
@@BigKarl519 please be my guest. You are aware this is every pharmacy in North America right?
I'm pretty sure that when a pharmacist THINKS he's being open and honest about his dealings with a drug rep... and openly talking about breaking the law -- he's made a statement and an "interview".
Not one constructed and all lawyer up for print and camera. The greed factor speaks volumes here in the honesty factor. They see a potential new drug supplier -- GREED kicks in -- and a self-serving, openly honest exchange starts between the crook & crook. It's a lesson as old as time. Stop trying to defend the blatant video and words presented. You're just making yourself out to look even more silly than those taking the cash.
Nobody as yet...
Legitimately answered my question!
Does anybody know the answer to my question??
What's your question. I have a lot of information
I will try to I do have a lot of information about this topic
Mickey mouse....
And they aren't really pharmacists! All they do is count pills! They learned that in 2nd grade!
Wow, all the pharmacists are foreigners!
Steven Grossman yup
Paul Bailey is the man !
Criminal
IS THIS DONE IN THE USA? WE OWN AN
INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY PHARMACY IN THE USA AND WE DO NOT DO THIS.
From what I know this is perfectly legal in the USA.
You wanna know so you can do it?
Prices are outrage enough!
@@carpediem2445 agreed. Prices in USA are outrageous in comparison to Canada. Generic drugs in Canada are about 10% the cost of brand name drugs and have never been so affordable. This video is purely sensationalistic.
@@michellecollison6191 I KNOW THAT. THE ONLY PEOPLE MAKING MONEY ARE THE PHARMACEUTICAL BENEFIT MANAGERS
. THEY ARE TAKING EVERY PENNY OF PROFIT WE COULD EVER HOPE TO MAKE. THEIR CEO'S MAKE A YEARLY SALARY IN THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT WAS WITH A B.....BILLIONS.
C A N A D A B L O W S
GREED!!! Always in want!!!
CBC is doing good job
No this is garbage
If you are a pharmacist and reading this please write to the CBC Ombudsman and tell them your side of the story. The average person is going to think pharmacists get a $7 kickback which is misinformation. Pharmacists need to stand together and speak up because the media is trying to portray you as greedy beings. It is irresponsible journalism to leave out what thousands of pharmacists have to say. A pharmacists declining wages should be reason enough for you to speak up.
Here's a idea, how about you just stop breaking the law and cheating the consumer. It's doesn't matter if it's a rebate of 70%, 7%, $7 or 7¢, it's suppose to be Zero. Don't be Goofs...
@@BigKarl519 do you get upset when your grocery store negotiates prices with its vendors? Food and medication is a business at the end of the day. No one wants to work for free.
@Michelle Collison
So Their ON to you?...........LMAO!
@@mgtowrules1649 on to me how?
if a 100% sample of the pharmacist all ask for a rebate what does that tell you?
Attention Hez...
What do you mean I don't understand?
I.( not like you!)
Came up with a solution!
If you can't contribute a solution.then I have
THINK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!
Till that happens I stick with what I said!!
Really angers me. I'm a nurse and reps aren't allowed to give us a pen anymore.
I'm pretty sure doctors get pens. I'm sure nurse practitioners get pens too. So why would you miss out?
@@michellecollison6191 I was told it was because we might influence a patient to take one pill over another for a pen lmao ridiculous.
Lmao That sounds silly that you are not allowed pens. Generic drugs are already so cheap and only 10% the cost of brand name drugs. In most cases the active ingredient is also manufactured in the same factory for several generic drug companies. The only thing that matters is the medication work well for the patient and pharmacists know this too.
You shouldn't want or expect even a pen
Sudanese, Palestinian/Syrian, Filipino, Pakistani.....the first 4 pharmacists. Trust me.
It's not easy to become a pharmacist. I guess they must be super smart.
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Thieves
Freaking wowarooski
They're all foreign.
HA!!! Now come to America....
Dariqueen